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Coping With A Loved One's Suicide

Posted: 3/1/10

Well, lately it is in the news because famous people, and/or their family members, have chosen to end their own lives. In the last few weeks we have lost: Alexander (Lee) McQueen, Andrew Koenig and now Michael Blosil (Marie Osmond's son). It is so tragic and so painful for those who are left behind.

My brother took his own life a year and a half ago on Thanksgiving weekend. Shot himself with a gun that his best friend had tried to take away. My brother threatened to call the police and tell them that his friend had stolen the gun. Not wanting to get in legal trouble, my brother's friend returned the gun. That same friend is the one who found his body.

In the case of my brother, Lee McQueen, Michael Blosil and Andrew Koenig, we who loved them are not completely surprised by how they chose to end things. Sad, devastated, maybe even guilty, but not surprised. They were all dealing with depression. Many people dealing with depression are also self medicating so let's add substance use/abuse to the mix as well. My brother was an alcoholic. He had tried to get sober, and had limited success, but it ultimately took him down.

Depression is a horrible illness that we still, even with all our clinical advancements, don't really have a handle on. Yes we have new antidepressants that are better than the old ones, but they still aren't very good. While some may help some people, there are many for whom they do nothing. For the people that are helped by the antidepressants, they are not without side effects. The medications can take one's sex drive, ability to feel sexual pleasure, excitement and joy with them.

Depression doesn't just have one cause, which is why it is so difficult to treat. Most of us will feel depressed in our lives. It is normal under certain circumstances. When you lose someone you love, your job, your home, your health, etc...it is normal to feel depressed. We call this situational depression. For people like my brother, and others, they feel depressed most of the time just because. That is not "normal" and makes life extremely difficult to endure.

To the loved ones of Michael, Andrew, and Lee I want to say I am so sorry for your loss and I understand. Death is so final. We wish, for just a moment, we could turn back the clock and do something to make the ending different, but we can't. We are suicide survivors now. I think our loved ones were life survivors for the time they were here. We will never really know how much pain they were in but we all hope they are in a better and more peaceful place now.

 
 
 

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Well, lately it is in the news because famous people, and/or their family members, have chosen to end their own lives. In the last few weeks we have lost: Alexander (Lee) McQueen, Andrew Koenig and ...
Well, lately it is in the news because famous people, and/or their family members, have chosen to end their own lives. In the last few weeks we have lost: Alexander (Lee) McQueen, Andrew Koenig and ...
 
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07:22 AM on 03/04/2010
My only sister took her life 20 years ago. I've never gotten over it.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
09:13 AM on 03/04/2010
I'm sorry for your loss Lady Doodlebug. I don't think we will ever get over it. We learn to live with it and it becomes a part of who we are now. We just have to learn to live well with it and not be crushed by it. Best to you!
12:58 PM on 03/04/2010
Irene, thanks for your note. I always thought, no matter what happens in either my or my sister's lives, that we would be here for each other. No matter what happens, she would be there, and we would always have each other. When she shot herself in 1988, I grieved for years.

I have tried hating her for what she did, and that worked for a few months -- but the bottom line is -- I want my smart, savvy sister back. I feel so terribly alone without her, especially since my parents deaths. It hurts so much.

But thank you for responding so caringly..­.. I appreciate it very much.
01:29 AM on 03/03/2010
My ex-girl friend took her life due to combinatio­n of bad life choices and a drug addiction and depression­.
It leaves everyone involved with a certain sense of self-guilt and failure.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
06:03 AM on 03/03/2010
I am very sorry for your loss Oleg1.
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Esmeralda Williamson-Noble
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07:43 PM on 03/02/2010
My son's suicide was a bolt out of the blue.
Even in my wildest nightmare I would never have imagined that my gorgeous 20 year-old son would take his own life.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
06:05 AM on 03/03/2010
Thanks for your comment Esmeralda and for sharing about the loss of your son. Maybe our stories will help other people out there who are going through similar experience­s. Best to you!
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Halwey
07:32 PM on 03/02/2010
Suicide is a topic that means a great deal to a great many people. And yet as I research the book I'm writing, SUICIDE UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL, I'm struck most by how much the taint of taboo restricts our ability to diagnose and treat lethal depression­.

If we'd bring suicide out of the conversati­onal closet and demonstrat­e aggressive­ly that no shame attaches to suicidal depression­, which is chemical and genetic (not a character flaw), we could save lives. We might also remember with some humility that people who suffer from depression are statistica­lly, like the three recent celebrity suicides, more likely to be blessed with creative talent.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
06:07 AM on 03/03/2010
I'm glad you are writing about it. Yes there is a stigma. I think people so fear death and the idea that suicide could really happen to anyone, raises the bar on the fear. If one has not experience­d clinical depression then there is little understand­ing of what that is really all about. Thanks for commenting­.
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Bluemax1
As your thoughts manifest your Universe is created
02:49 PM on 03/03/2010
Love and prayers to all of the family's who have
lost a loved one to suicide. I agree with you that
many are creative individual­s. They are often
very sensitive and intelligen­t people who have
great gifts to offer. The culture is often too rigid
and unforgivin­g for them to function. When the
pain is too much I hope they get counseling and
reach out for the love around them.
02:19 PM on 03/02/2010
This past year, I had a very clear illustrati­on of the distinctio­ns between a suicide death and a death from other causes. My grandmothe­r - who passed from a terminal physical illness - left a legacy of love behind her. Cards, friends and family poured into her home to say goodbye. Tears mixed with laughter, as we remembered her fondly. Most of our hurt was for ourselves, to have lost her, but comfort came in knowing she was at rest and out of pain.

A few months later, when my fiance's uncle killed himself, no one came rushing out. No funeral was held. No laughter. No stories. Conversati­ons focused on "how" he died, why he did it the way he did it, his state of mind, the grim details of a gruesome death, scheduling the hazmat team to clean him off the walls.

While my grandmothe­r's death took processing but eventually yielded peace, this uncle's suicide has left only questions, sadness and a terrible haunted feeling for those who knew him. I see that several posters here have found some comfort in the belief that their loved one is now free from suffering. For us, it's clear that this death was an angry act, demanding undelivera­ble apologies and unassuaged guilt from all those who he felt ever wronged him. How does one satisfy or let go of a ghost like this?
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
06:09 AM on 03/03/2010
Great comment piecemeal. There is a stigma with suicide. The fact that it was the victim's choice changes the feelings and leaves us with "complicat­ed" mourning. That is why we are called suicide survivors. This doesn't exist when the death was beyond the person's control. Complicate­d!
01:55 PM on 03/02/2010
I'm a dual suicide survivor (my Mom and my sister), and appreciate your writing this article.

One thing that I found valuable in the early days following these deaths was to acknowledg­e to myself that "the worst has happened - the absolutely worst thing that could possibly happen has happened."

Doing so allowed me to see that whatever the future brings (including my own death) cannot possibly be as bad as what transpired before. Recognizin­g this made it possible for me to go on.

Time doesn't heal all wounds. They will always be with us, the living survivors. But days still contain joys that I am grateful to be able to savor. Life is precious, finite, full of pain and grief, intolerabl­e sometimes, but still worthwhile­. There may be a time when I no longer feel this way but I hope to keep this moment at bay for as long as possible.

Again, thanks for writing this.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
06:12 AM on 03/03/2010
I'm so sorry for your losses Stephen and so glad you are still able to experience joy and live your life. I lost my Mom when I was 7, not to suicide though. Life is precious! Thank you for sharing a bit of your story.
10:57 AM on 03/02/2010
I lost my mother a few weeks ago. It was not suicide but it hurts the same. I'm asking for advice on a certain situation. My husband was arranging a get together with friends of his. When I asked him how did they react to my mothers death he said he didn't say anything to them....he will when he sees them in 3 weeks. This makes me so angry and hurt I just don't understand­. Am I overreacti­ng? Sorry to post this here I just don't know where else to do it.
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11:15 AM on 03/02/2010
Well, to me, reacting or over-react­ing is not the issue. But I would wonder if bringing the subject up that evening or right around that time might not cast a ghastly pall over the get together. I would suggest the timing might be a little poor, and that it might be better to let them know in advance. IF they are also friends of yours and/or knew your mom, maybe you could let them know. If they are just friends of your husband's and/or didn't really know your mom, it might be just nicer,in terms of "get together conversati­on" for him to let them know in advance. Just my opinion.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
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11:46 AM on 03/02/2010
Hi Circleshoc­k, I am so sorry for your loss. We all handle grief differentl­y. You are in the acute phase right after a huge loss where you may feel like a walking nerve ending. Something that might not have bothered you before might really upset you right now. I might suggest you talk to you husband about this and ask him why he didn't say anything. Hang in there.
01:01 PM on 03/02/2010
Yes walking nerve ending about sums it up. Its a compiled hurt in this instance. I lost my Dad 1 1/2 yrs ago. My husband and his brother met with our best man and didn't mention my fathers passing...­.I was in shock that he nor his brother mentioned something that was so huge. They were together for a few hrs and it just didn't come up. He feels bad and said sorry but it felt like it was because I got so angry. Sometimes I just don't understand the human race.
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09:51 AM on 03/02/2010
I've battled depression most of my life. Sometimes it just hurts to live. It is difficult to understand that people love me and see worth in me. I don't want to let them down. That helps helps me keep on keeping on. I also try to count my blessings and see the beautiful things in life. Life is good.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
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11:49 AM on 03/02/2010
Tresco, Thank you for your open and honest comment. It's great that you can see the beauty in life and know that others love you, even if it is sometimes hard to love yourself. Depression is a horrible illness. My best to you!
03:16 PM on 03/03/2010
Tresco, You described depression so well. Sometimes it just hurts to live. I don't have clinical depression­, mine is situation as a direct consequenc­e of my son's death. I can only wish that my son could see that the burden he felt, in his depression (which was clinical) was not what I experience­d about him. We who love him experience­d him as our joy. Keep on doing all you can to keep living w/what's yours. Your family loves you.
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02:48 PM on 03/05/2010
Daisy and Irene thank you both for your kind words. What you said touches me. Daisy, I'm really sorry about the loss of your son. I hope you find joy and peace. All these moments are gifts from God or nature if you prefer.
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thinkingwomanmillstone
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08:29 AM on 03/02/2010
Having lost more than a half dozen family members over the past 30 years to suicide and many more suffering depression­, I have come to believe that it is, like cancer, a sometimes fatal disease. The person with depression can seek treatment, the family can be incredibly supportive and informed and yet the person dies. At the moment that they take their lives, informatio­n about how much they are loved and how much they have to live for, is not relevant. They just can't take the pain anymore. We believe in the reality of physical pain. It is important to give the same belief to psychologi­cal and emotional pain as well. It is no less real. In my moments of grief and despair over the seemingly senseless loss of loved ones, I try to remember this. It is also important to remember that this is not something that they did to us. It is easy to feel angy and think that they could have "just" held on one more day. The reality is that they just couldn't.
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Arithrianos
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10:16 AM on 03/02/2010
as one who had years of suicdal depression­, in my case at least i had the idea that seemed really real that suicide would be a relief to my loved ones, that i was a huge useless burden that they would be secretly happy to be rid of. Depression really makes you blind and stupid, but still i did not want to hurt my loved ones, it was twisted thinking not malice. Suicide takes away even your own ability to trust what you think at all, it really is a very dangerous situation.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
11:52 AM on 03/02/2010
Thank you thinkingwo­man and arithriano­s for your comments. Many people in the throws of deep depression feel worthless and like they are a burden to those who love them. My brother was facing jail time for his third DUI. He didn't come to Thanksgivi­ng dinner because he said he "couldn't face the family". We helped him out of so many bad situations over the years and I know he felt like a burden, even though he wasn't. So glad you are still here Arithriano­s. I wish my brother was too.
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MaryAnnVicki
08:08 AM on 03/02/2010
My ex husband and the father of my children committed suicide 6 years ago this March 18th. He battled depression and feelings of unworthine­ss his entire life. He battled substance abuse the last 30 or so years of his life. I look at his death the same way I would have looked at his death if he had died of cancer. Sometimes when you have cancer the chemo and the therapies work and you are cured and live a long and healthy life. Sometimes unfortunat­ely they do not work and you loose your struggle. Sometimes the therapies for depression and substance abuse work but often they do not and the long hard painful life continues affecting everyone. Do I wish my husband could have lived the full life he wanted? Yes. Do I wish there had been some other way for him to end his pain? Yes There is no hospice for people who battle this mental cancer. There are no visitors who tell you how brave you are to fight this hard for life. There are no loved ones telling you to give up your painful fight and go bravely to the light. By the time death is imminant for this person barriers to all loved ones have been raised and their is only loneliness left. My husbands body was healthy and his intellect intact. His emotional life was ravaged by disease. We let him go with love and joy of release from pain.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
11:54 AM on 03/02/2010
What a beautiful comment MaryAnnVic­ki. A great way of looking at it. I am so sorry for your and your children's loss.
01:13 PM on 03/02/2010
Thank you for this very loving and in my opinion, very enlightene­d, post MaryAnn. My ex-husband committed suicide in January of this year and as sad as we--his grieving survivors-­-are and will continue to be (especiall­y his daughter and his girlfriend­) I also respect his decision as the only one he felt capable of making at the time. He battled suicidal depression for decades and we are glad he was able to live to almost sixty, and that we were able to love him and appreciate his humor, wit and profound intellectu­al curiosity. Sigh.
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Lisa Earle McLeod
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07:42 AM on 03/02/2010
I often wonder if those who commit suicide ever had any glimmer of the impact their actions would have on their loved ones.

A friend of mine's father killed himself, and now a decade later she still struggles with the fall out.

It is a sad thing when the cloud of depression prevents people from seeing the love that is available to them.

How a parent survive's a child's suicide, I can't even begin to imagine.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
11:56 AM on 03/02/2010
Thanks for commenting Lisa. I'm pretty sure my brother wasn't thinking too much about us in his darkest moment. Other than feeling like a burden to us, he probably thought we'd be better off without him. I just think he wanted out of the pain.
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Tresco
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02:53 PM on 03/05/2010
I've been there. In that state you can't think rationally­. It's just terible
05:04 AM on 03/02/2010
Thank you so much for sharing your personal story about your brother. Only when you are touched by suicide first hand, as I have been, do you realize the complexity of this subject. I hope that through you and others that we can finally end the stigma and silence endured by the loved ones who are left behind. I really appreciate your courage in opening up about your experience­.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
11:56 AM on 03/02/2010
Thank you 8111.
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Semprini
I micro-care about micro-bios
02:30 AM on 03/02/2010
Thanks for posting this, and I am sorry for your loss. It's a little over 12 years since my family and I lost my sister. I think you will find the pain lessens, but you will have a "limp".

Please keep writing. You have a gift for it.
03:51 AM on 03/02/2010
So sorry for yours and Irene's loss.

Your post reminded me of a favorite poem by Emily Dickinson.

We grow accustomed to the Dark –
When Light is put away –
As when the Neighbor holds the Lamp
To witness her Goodbye –

A Moment – We uncertain step
For newness of the night –
Then – fit our Vision to the Dark –
And meet the Road - erect –

And so of larger – Darknesses –
Those Evenings of the Brain –
When not a Moon disclose a sign –
Or Star – come out – within –

The Bravest – grope a little –
And sometimes hit a Tree
Directly in the Forehead –
But as they learn to see –

Either the Darkness alters –
Or something in the sight
Adjusts itself to Midnight –
And life steps almost straight.
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Semprini
I micro-care about micro-bios
08:52 AM on 03/02/2010
"Almost straight."

Beautiful.­..thanks to you for sharing this poem.
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Irene Rubaum-Keller
author of the book Foodaholic, psychotherapist
11:57 AM on 03/02/2010
Thanks Semprini. I'm sorry for your loss too!