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Nine Nasty Things that Divorcing Spouses Say to One Another

Posted: 12/07/11 12:10 PM ET

Divorce lawyers hear it all. We hear tragic stories, engaging stories, and just about every other type of story.

We also learn of the dime-a-dozen, intimidating remarks that the other spouse says to our clients. These timeless and overused comments are universal and are repeated daily in law offices everywhere. To the lawyers, these statements are meaningless. However, to the client who hears them for the first time, they are devastating.

As far as we know, Paul Staley, a San Diego divorce lawyer, was the first to go online with his list of these worn-out comments. Our Chicagoland clients reside some 2,000 miles from San Diego, but they report that their soon-to-be exes say the very same things to them, and mostly word-for-word.

These spousal remarks seem to boil down to one concept, an attempt on the part of the speaker to control the other partner and/or to control the direction and outcome of the divorce. Here is a sampling of some of the more famous of these utterances:

"I'll quit my job and then what'll you get?" This is the premier, all-time classic. It is nothing to worry about; if one out of a million quits his/her job, that's a lot.

"You can leave, but the kids stay here." Or, "I can fix it so you'll never see the kids again." These are the ramblings of an upset, immature bully. Comments like these are familiar tunes that are used in more divorces than you can possibly imagine.

"I don't mind paying child support, but I want proof that you are spending it all on the kids." This time-honored mouthful ranks right up there with the classics. Don't give it a second thought.

"I'll give the lawyers every last cent before I'll agree to that." This is the same person that shops for cheapest lawyer in town and then tries to weasel out of paying his/her bill in full.

"Your lawyer is an idiot; he's just running up the bill." Or, "It simply doesn't make sense for us to be paying two lawyers." Talk about a control freak. He/she resents not being able to run things and believes they can regain control by driving a wedge between their partner and their partner's attorney.

"Surely overtime doesn't apply to how much I pay in child support, does it? I'll simply quit working overtime if it does." This one is timeless and is probably the second most worn-out remark in divorce. They usually try to get more overtime once the divorce is finalized.

"The pension is all mine, I worked for it." This person probably went to a different law school than we did. The law is bigger than his/her legal opinion.

"The judge can't make me pay you that much. Business stinks and the company is talking about cut-backs. I'll be lucky if I have a job next year." Every divorce lawyer will tell you that the year of the divorce is always the year that sales are down, hours have to be cut, over-time and bonuses are being discontinued, etc. For some odd reason, things always seem to pick up in the year after the divorce.

"You mess with me, and I'm going for full custody." Tell him to go for it. When his lawyer asks him for $25,000 to fund a custody battle, you'll see how much he means it. Talk is cheap and so are the people that say these things. Control freaks always try to use the children as leverage.

We plan to print this blog post and keep it on-hand to show to our affected clients in the hopes of illustrating the unoriginality of their partner's threats, and of minimizing their impact.

J. Richard Kulerski and Kari L. Cornelison are partners in the Chicago area, Oak Brook, IL divorce law firm of Kulerski & Cornelison. You may find them at www.civilizeddivorce.com and at their firm's blog dupagedivorcelawyerblog.com.

Richard is the author of The Secret to a Friendly Divorce: Your Personal Guide to a Cooperative, Out-of-Court Settlement.

Attorney Paul Staley may be reached at 877-261-2217, or email pstaley@paulstaley.com. Paul's website is www.sandiegofamilylawyer.com.

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Divorce lawyers hear it all. We hear tragic stories, engaging stories, and just about every other type of story. We also learn of the dime-a-dozen, intimidating remarks that the other spouse says to...
Divorce lawyers hear it all. We hear tragic stories, engaging stories, and just about every other type of story. We also learn of the dime-a-dozen, intimidating remarks that the other spouse says to...
 
 
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Willie12345
09:39 AM on 12/13/2011
Too much hate.
02:53 PM on 12/12/2011
Kept waiting for the clincher. Are you SERIOUS? The comments I fielded make those sound like charm school etiquette.
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Allena Tapia
Will write for food
10:22 PM on 12/10/2011
But I've heard of husbands that really DID quit their jobs (well, faked a disability- a mental one at that! AND got away with it), and the mom has ended up working her butt off trying to make up for it. Sure, she gets some of his disability payments, and once a year whatever tax returns he gets but it's not nearly what she needs to raise the kids :(
11:35 AM on 12/09/2011
I work in family law and I've heard every single one of these.
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Giglawyer
Lions are unconcerned with the opinions of sheep.
10:52 AM on 12/09/2011
"You mess with me, and I'm going for full custody." Tell him to go for it. When his lawyer asks him for $25,000 to fund a custody battle, you'll see how much he means it. Talk is cheap and so are the people that say these things. Control freaks always try to use the children as leverage.

Perahps one should say "tell him or HER to for it." Women are equally guilty of using custody as a pawn in this game.
02:27 PM on 12/09/2011
+1000. While I believe there is good information in this article, it's blatantly written from the angle of trying to protect a woman's best interest.

Newsflash, men get divorced, too--and women aren't always motivated by "what's best for the kids."

Know what I mean?

And oh, yeah...I'm a woman.
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celestialmotion
Everything has it's beauty,not everyone sees it
06:06 AM on 12/09/2011
It's nothing compared to what they do to their children after the divorce.
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William Dean Luke
what? You have an opinion that differs from mine?
05:48 AM on 12/09/2011
Ya know what I'd say? "I love my kids dearly. I'lldo anything for~them~. But by God, if I'm paying child support, you're not keeping me from seeing my babies."

Actually, I really dunno what I'd say in that situation, as I don't have kids or a significant other.

What worries me, mostly, about all this divorce business, is that the children involved get no say whatsoever in how things turn out.

Even if the kids love their daddy (Or their mommy, or both), one of the parents will ultimately get custody and embitter their children toward them as a result.

When you're married, and have kids, you're in it for the long haul. Getting a divorce because you're incapable of making compromises for the benefit of your children makes you not only look weak, but selfish to boot. Take it from someone whose parents divorced when he was young, that's not something a kid let's go of very easily, especially when that kid loves both of their parents.

If you would disrupt your child's well-being, and cause them sorrow, just for your own happiness, then you shouldn't even ~Be~ a parent in the first place.
05:46 AM on 12/09/2011
I just divorced my wife after 17 years of torment. Too much drama and expense. Glad she's gone.
05:04 AM on 12/09/2011
In this society, men get screwed in divorce and that is just wrong!
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pslcitizen
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
04:57 AM on 12/09/2011
Is that all? lol I've heard worse ones than that..
04:35 AM on 12/09/2011
i wonder just how many divorces would have gone smoothly if it werent for lawyers mudding it up

any studies out on that?
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pslcitizen
I intend to live forever. So far, so good.
04:58 AM on 12/09/2011
Divorces tend to go as smoothly as the marriages did... What is needed is more mediators & less lawyers.
littlesavg
Still searching for freedom
04:05 AM on 12/09/2011
The number one cause of divorce is getting married.
02:56 AM on 12/09/2011
These sound creepily self serving to the attorneys who'se problem it isn't if the spouse with the regular income's career goes south (or their client later). Might they only be takng on cash cows whose pleas they know they can smirkingly ignore.
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MikeIng
living La Dolce Vita
02:39 AM on 12/09/2011
Love is Grand,Divorce is 20 Grand. I Being never married, No Kids,Retired & enjoying life,Yes" IT" still works ! It's nice to know I NEVER made the dreaded mistake so many have made,All over a few moments of pleasure that costs eternal missery
02:09 AM on 12/09/2011
Custody, assets, debts and taxes should all be divided 50/50 as the rule, then let litigants work that out with each other from there.....only attorneys and spouses looking to take advantage of the other would oppose that