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What Do Divorce Lawyers Do In Their Own Divorces?

Posted: 02/ 6/2012 12:30 pm

What do divorce lawyers do in their own divorces?

They try to stay out of court. Despite their familiarity with the system, and despite any perceived advantage they are believed to have, they do everything they can to settle their case before it reaches the court system.

Divorce insiders try to resist the inclination to fight. They think going to court is a losing proposition. It wastes energy, time, and money and is a last resort; it is something they will consider only when there is no other choice.

Why are the pros more reluctant to fight than the public is? What do they know that the average person does not know?

They know what the divorce legal system looks like from the inside; and they see fighting it out in court as a waste. They are not misled by Hollywood, and the various lawyer shows on television, which have traditionally depicted courtroom justice as being clear-cut, instantaneous, and sure.

They regard litigation (taking the case to court) as a counter-productive force that destroys their chances of achieving a healthy negotiation climate.

They know the system doesn't run on time and doesn't have the magic that the public thinks it has. They know there are no winners in a divorce battle, and that the outcome of a divorce trial can only define the extent of how much they will lose.

Their experience is that everyone leaves the litigation process feeling frustrated, disillusioned, and poorer. They see going to trial as an emotional vampire that sucks the spirit out of people; they liken it to mental cruelty all over again.

Divorce insiders know that over 90 percent of all divorce cases settle before trial, with many settling on the very eve of trial. It makes no sense to them to spend months (and lots of dollars) gearing up for a trial that, statistically, isn't going to happen. They would prefer to spend their energy and family funds working toward an early out-of-court settlement, rather than following the typical pattern of waiting until the end of the case to begin serious negotiations.

Because more than nine out of every 10 divorcing spouses reach a settlement before they ever get before a judge, insiders realize they will not get to vent and speak their minds in court. They will be deprived of the opportunity to tell the judge about the injustices, the dishonesty, the betrayal, the adultery, the lies, the pain, the unfairness, and most of the other things that the public thinks the judge should hear.

They know their emotions, feelings, and pain do not count in a courtroom. Instead, when deciding a case, the judge is duty-bound to stick to the facts and the applicable law. The judge is likely to be prohibited from considering their underlying humanity, which is the very fulcrum upon which they base their sense of justice and entitlement.

Even if they are the one out of ten litigants who do get the opportunity to testify in court, they know they still won't be able to say what all they want to say. They will be allowed to speak only when answering questions put to them by the lawyers, and the rules of evidence will limit what the lawyers can ask.

Most people look to the judge to mete out the justice that their spouse has long withheld. Divorce professionals, however, know there is no back pay in divorce and that the court cannot consider misconduct in determining monetary or property awards.

In other areas of law, litigation puts an end to the problem. Divorce does bring legal closure, but it often causes additional family problems. The emotional devastation caused by litigation can last for decades.

Some people believe that divorce is where the guilty go free. To insiders, litigation does not provide any satisfaction to the disputants and only makes sense when there is a genuine need for it.

 

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What do divorce lawyers do in their own divorces? They try to stay out of court. Despite their familiarity with the system, and despite any perceived advantage they are believed to have, they do ever...
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04:39 PM on 03/27/2012
Divorce is a death of a dream and marriage... so you have to learn to grieve that .... It is not an easy thing to do... but sometimes when you have a spouse that is abusive, it is best to get away from them , so that they do not do any harm to you or any minor children that are from the marriage....
07:21 PM on 03/17/2012
Anyone who finds this advice dubious or annoying should read it again. After 30 years of practicing family law, I concur with Mr. Kulerski's observations and opinions.
09:14 AM on 02/15/2012
Another good option that divorce attorneys utilize is mediation. In mediation, both spouses are able to have their voices heard and have the opportunity to determine what is best for their family and future.
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11:55 AM on 02/09/2012
Mark Twain once wrote: If there's one lawyer in town he's poor. If there are two they're both rich!
01:06 AM on 02/08/2012
Lol. Instead of worrying about how you will handle a divorce, how about not
getting married in the first place?

All you men below that have written about the loss of your family heirlooms, you
house, money and the love/respect of your children should be out there speaking
to other men about the dangers of marriage. I believe this is the number one
stupid thing that men due that ruin their lives.

Did you know women are writing books on how to beat prenup agreements? Women
don't want to be independent, they want to be free to do as they wish on your
bank account. I don't blame them. Our country has raised women to be
sophisticated prostitutes, yet it's never ceases to amaze me at how naive men
can be. All thinking that you're going to meet some great woman and spend your
lives together. Do yourself a favor and research divorce horror stories and read
about a bunch of men who all thought the same childish nonsense.

Now look at women. Do you see Oprah or Martha Stewart looking to disperse their
funds to you clowns? NO YOU DON'T! If you want to give your money away
you should join a good charity and do so (i imagine it's better than living at
motel 6).
01:27 PM on 02/08/2012
Ouch! You are so harsh and cutting. Listen, there are wonderful women and men out there. Half of all marriages stay together, many of them very happily. The number of divorces that ends in an alimony obligation is about 17% according to one study I found. Many divorces don't end in alimony because either the man or woman doesn't want it... they want to get on with their lives. I saw this happen again and again as I sat in court for my horror divorce. The alimony cases are divided into the truly needy cases and the cut-throat cases. My guess is that the majority are cut-throat, given today's reality that most families consist of two working/ career people. So the generalization that woman don't want to be independent is way off base. That said, you have about a 1 in 6 chance of picking the wrong partner that will cost your dearly. Those a pretty high odds, and I would agree that it is not worth getting married. In NJ palimony was outlawed in 2010. If you live together there needs to be a written contract of support commitment for one party to get palimony from the other. This is a much better option than getting married.
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05:17 PM on 03/25/2012
You call 17% high odds. Ouch. Divorced men kill themselves at 4 times the rate of divorced women. I bet most of those men are in the 17. Time to change the laws.
06:06 PM on 02/07/2012
They make a lot of sense and encourage mediation or other forms of out court dispute resolution because they are familiar with the financial and emotional costs of litigation. And this should mean that all aspects of the divorce are mediated particularly where the lawyer is a partner in a practice and there may be goodwill involved. A smart couple, hire a good mediator who works with experienced professionals such as therapists and joint forensic accountants. The goal is not just a cheap divorce. That would be penny wise and pound foolish. It should be a mediated settlement that is fair and just. www.la-familylaw.com
04:20 PM on 02/07/2012
Great article! As a family therapist, I too often see the fallout that a litigated and contentious divorce has on families. The divorcing couple as well as their children, (any age child, even adult) all pay the emotional and financial cost long after the divorce has reached a legal conclusion. Hopefully, more people will educate themselves to the better alternatives that currently exist to a traditionally adversarial and litigated divorce. These alternative dispute resolutions include Colllaborataive Divorce and Mediation. Anybody about to divorce will do themselves and their family a great favor by learning more about negotiating their way through this very challenging process.
03:00 PM on 02/07/2012
"They try to stay out of court. Despite their familiarity with the system...."

Shouldn't that be: "BECAUSE OF their familiarity with the system...?"
01:35 PM on 02/07/2012
Are these authors attorneys themselves? I doubt it. Financial misconduct most certainly can and often does come into play. The party not at fault (of the financial misconduct) may be compensated by an unequal distribution of the marital assets.
01:27 PM on 02/07/2012
The best way around this is like I did. Just marry a real poor country girl, tell her we are too poor for a TV, live in the country with a few miles in both directions from neighbors. Tell her you wright for the local paper and bring her a copy everyday of one you made up of all the wild animals in the woods nearby and the killers loose from prision so she don't ever go outside and tell her it's alright to bring over diffrent women everynight to have SPECIAL TIME in the bedroom with wile she cook dinner. And i think everthing will be fine.
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05:05 PM on 02/07/2012
It's post like this which make me wish there was a button for "?"
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11:45 AM on 02/09/2012
Uh, there is. It's called the "?" key and it's right above the zero!
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01:08 PM on 02/07/2012
Poetic justice if I may say so...
01:07 PM on 02/07/2012
Take your marriage to Gods word. Its free and it WORKS! And it has a 100% satisfaction quarantee to those who really apply the principals. Those who sit in church and get divirced are NOT applying Gods Word. They are stumbling blocks for the rest of the world. They are still living for themselves. The world calls these people hypocrits, God calls them liars. So dont look to those people for advice, They are what God calls lukewarm. And He warns about that in His Word as well. Dont ask a divirced person (even if married now) or a single person. Neither know how to fight for a marriage when it gets rough. Find a couple that SURVIVED the problems in their marriage and ask them HOW to apply Gods Word to your marriage successfully.
04:47 PM on 02/07/2012
If god were to reveal himself to the rest of us, this would all be good advice. But for the rest of us unsaved folk, he’s in absentia (either doesn’t exist or not interested). So there is no base here that we can use. And religious people all sound the same with their righteousness. Oh wait, you are probably a Christian so you don’t consider yourself “religious”. And let me guess, Christian with a Capital “C”, Not a small “c” . . . So It Goes . . .
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01:03 PM on 02/07/2012
I would point out that these "divorce insiders" are always glad to bill lots of very expensive hours perpetuating the conflict, and the emotional well being and solvancy of their clients is not nearly as important as their own bank accounts. Oh, sure, some of them are very good at being your 'friend' during these trying times... and they'll bill you for it.
01:02 PM on 02/07/2012
Bringing a lawyer into any dispute is like bringing gasoline to a fire. Americans are brainwashed to think that someone will gain by doing this. But we all loose in the long run. There are infinately more lawyers in the system then what is needed for "real" law. They all take money and produce debt. That's their job - That's what they do.
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05:11 PM on 02/07/2012
Trust me when I tell you - we like to complete cases as quickly and efficiently as possible.
12:55 PM on 02/07/2012
Another secret they know is that they can force the other side to get a forensic evaluation even though there is Absolutely No Base for the accusation. This insures 6 months more income for both the lawyer and the forensic. And generally, the children are used as leverage. Most lawyers are sociopaths that were created by a system of greed because our legal system is a highly profitable comodity and not a basic human right. So It Goes . . .
01:57 PM on 02/07/2012
I have immediately scheduled some couch time with my shrink, as I was lucky enough to stumble upon your post which led me to discover I am a sociopath (all this time I mistakenly thought I was a decent person trying to help people). Obviously I am going to do the right thing and inform all of my collegues that sadly, they are also sociopaths and should immediately seek psychiatric assistance if not demand immediate incarceration or at least a psychiatric hold. All this time I thought they were just hard-working people trying to support their own families, but your post really made me see the light. I cannot thank you enough. Hopefully your message gets spread, and me and all the other sociopathic attorneys across this great land of ours, that itself was actually created, in large part, by sociopathic attorneys, can get the help we so desperately need. Thank you so much and God bless you.
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02:20 PM on 02/07/2012
Well said, Isaac! You'll be amazed at how quickly the huff "regulars" can supplement the meager knowledge that we all had before being enlightened here at Huff Post.
03:29 PM on 02/07/2012
Needless to say, you lost me at “attorney” (and) “decent person trying to help people”. Just the fact that you believe this about your chosen profession, at very least, gives credence to my attack. You make it sound like you live in squalor and your family will starve without your noble effort. But, you’ve obviously never been manipulated out of your life savings by someone simply because he has the capital to afford a “good lawyer”. You are not accountable because you own a legal system that is highly profitable - and greed is self serving. But, you are one of ‘them” and you either can’t see or won’t see the pain you unleash on others. You only know that you need to protect your best interests (which for most is a to maintain your inflated ego, keep a good stock portfolio, buy a big enough house to accommodate a high maintenance wife and impress your severely spoiled kids friends). And I’m sure you do that well.