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Which Side's Hardliners Will Sabotage US-Iran Diplomacy? Enter Romney and Lieberman

Posted: 03/ 9/2012 5:51 pm

We're at a rare moment in which both the United States and Iran have unclenched their fists and appear ready for real talks.

Obama, thankfully, has taken the pro-war crowd to task. The P5+1 are finally setting new negotiations for April. And Iranian Supreme Leader Khamenei took the rare step of publicly welcoming new talks.

These are very hopeful signs that a breakthrough may be achievable. But we've seen how opportunities have been sabotaged in the past by political opportunism, ultimatums and intransigence from each side that has demanded maximalist concessions and blocked compromise necessary for diplomatic progress.

So, the question is: which side's hardliners will screw things up this time?

Enter Senators Graham (R-SC), Casey (D-PA) and Lieberman (I-CT). They recently introduced a resolution in the Senate that effectively says the U.S. will go to war if Iran acquires an undefined "capability" to build a nuclear weapon. They defended their stance in the Wall Street Journal this morning:

"Some have asked why our resolution sets the goal of preventing Iran from acquiring a "nuclear weapons capability," rather than "nuclear weapons." The reason is that all of the destabilizing consequences of a nuclear-armed Iran will ensue as soon as Iranians have the components necessary for a weapon--and by then, it will be too late to stop them.


"When some say that our red line is a "nuclear weapon," it suggests that anything short of a working bomb is acceptable. This is exactly the wrong message to send."

The Senators should ask themselves how such a demand is read in Iran. As Eugene Robinson explains in his column this morning, "The truth is that every nation with sufficient wealth and scientific infrastructure has the capacity to build a bomb if it really wants to."

Does the Lieberman-Graham-Casey trifecta really think the Iranians will capitulate to an ultimatum that demands they never achieve economic or scientific progress? How do we sell that exactly?

"The United States and its allies," writes Robinson, "should seek to eliminate the Iranian government's will to make a bomb, not its capacity."

Robinson calls out Mitt Romney for hopping on the "capability" bandwagon in an attempt to out-hawk Obama. Robinson warns that the "capability" crowd is effectively calling their own bluff:

"U.S. policy under Obama -- and previous administrations -- has been that it is "unacceptable" for Iran to have nuclear weapons. The clear implication is that, while military force is an option that could be employed at any time, including the present, force will be employed if Iran tries to make a bomb.


"To say that Iran must never have "the capacity to make a bomb," as Romney does, is to draw a line that has already been crossed."

Though they still haven't explained what they really think "capability" means, presumably the Senators define preventing "capability" as getting Iran to forgo even a verifiably peaceful nuclear enrichment program and to waive its rights under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty. This is the precondition that the Bush Administration adopted, which yielded nothing but Iranian nuclear advances throughout his term.

Yes--a world in which Iran decides it doesn't want any nuclear enrichment program at all would be great. But it is certainly not a vital goal, nor is it a realistic one. We certainly shouldn't make it our ultimatum so that it blocks opportunities to achieve our real goal--preventing Iran from actually building a bomb.

This is an important example of the perfect becoming the enemy of the good. Military strikes on Iran would not stop Iran's nuclear program and would be a disaster for Iran's pro-democracy and human rights movement. But there are safeguard measures and mechanisms that can be implemented through negotiations and which can achieve our real goals. We shouldn't let non-essential demands get in the way. Otherwise, the opportunity for a peaceful breakthrough will be scuttled yet again and the pressure for war may well reach its breaking point.

Email your elected officials to stop the Lieberman-Graham-Casey "capability" resolution

 

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batguano
As Long As Grass Grow, Wind Blow & The Sky Is Blue
07:06 PM on 03/11/2012
Given the attacks by Israeli forces on Gaza it should be obvious who is sabotaging (as usual) any possibility for peace. The timing of these IAF attacks are NOT accidental, they are well planned and pre-meditated, even a child should see that! It isn't some anonymous "hardliners" in this case, but the state apparatus and leadership of Israel! The IAF targeted a "militant leader" they claim was "planning an attack" beginning (as they knew it would) the current round of violence. Who among us would not be a "militant" in the same position as Palestinians? Who wouldn't be a patriot? We in the US swallow the highly questionable "justification" for targeting and killing a Palestinian leader for supposedly "planning" attacks; the true reason for the Israeli attacks is to keep the US hostage to Israeli extremism and racist attacks, further their desire for war/attacks (preferably by the US) against Iran. The true intention of the Israeli right-wing and their co-conspirators in the US is to begin another unnecessary and disastrous war in the ME to protect Israeli extremist expansionism! Israel is trying, as they have many times before, to sucker the US into a war with Iran! OUR naval forces are in harms-way and Israel will try (like the USS Liberty incident) to blame Iran for an Israeli false-flag op and begin another war!
11:09 AM on 03/11/2012
If obama wasn't being sabatoged by his own congress he'd have a chance to come up with a negotiated solution. As it is, he's fighting an uphill battle. Allow Iran to keep some enrichment on its soil and supply it with nuclear fuel. We'd have to also give the regime some security guarantees.
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tallen
panem et circenses
10:27 AM on 03/11/2012
Iran has no intention of ceasing its nuclear weapons program.
They use the talks to advance their program, as admitted by one of their *negotiators*.

"...An actual Iranian negotiator bluntly stated the Islamic Republic of Iran’s strategy right out loud a couple of years later: Negotiations are a double-game, the very best way to stall while getting what you really want. Hassan Rowhani said in a speech to colleagues: ”While we were talking with the Europeans in Tehran, we were installing equipment in parts of the facility in Isfahan, but we still had a long way to go to complete the project,” Rowhani said. ”In fact, by creating a calm environment, we were able to complete the work on Isfahan.”
http://globalspin.blogs.time.com/2012/01/16/in-their-own-words-for-iranians-negotiations-stalling/#ixzz1oZEGDAcH
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
09:48 AM on 03/11/2012
One thing that is amazing is that Iran is still willing to try and negotiate a deal with those who are abrogating the present deal about civilian nuclear programs (the NNPT, which requires states like the US to assist Iran in learning how to enrich uranium and build nuclear power and medical reactors) have unilaterally abrogated every previous deal involving civilian nuclear material, refuse to even consider paying the $billion (roughly) that they owe Iran, backed, with arms, money, and advice on how to target cities, an attack where wiping Iran from the map was the clear objective (and which killed the vast majority of a generation)
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Wozzeck
Pearl Bay, Australia
09:39 AM on 03/11/2012
Senator Carl Levin wants to make sure that the next world war is started as soon as possible:

"Levin Resurrects Iran Naval Blockade Non-Idea"
http://agonist.org/steve_hynd/20120310/levin_resurrects_iran_naval_blockade_non_idea
11:10 AM on 03/11/2012
naval blokade is an act of war. And I'm sure Russia and china won't just sit by.
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kodimirpal
teacher
01:16 AM on 03/11/2012
Iran set up an Islamic assembly of experts and imposed a theocracy

Bu no one can deny that there was a strong aspiration toward democracy in the Iranian revolution.

And in a significant sense there still exists despite everything some real degree of democratic life in Iran, where you have elections with surprises like the recent Presidential elections

To be sure it is a limited contest. After all even in the U.S. the contest is limited and in real terms there is very little difference between the Democratic President or the Republican President.

It may not be a full or real democracy as the west defines it,

But there is popular participation in official politics and so it happens that the same thing occurs Iran

That the Washington considers the quintessence of evil.

No matter how much democracy a Muslim nation has or can aspire to have, certain laws which are specifically given in the Quran such as laws of inheritance, marriage relations, laws on divorce, may be interpreted in a different way but can not be completed thrown out because Muslims consider the Quran as the basic constitution of a Muslim nation and the secular constitution of a Muslim nation is subservient to the Quran.

It is very difficult for non-Muslims to comprehend this. But unfortunately this is the reality
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Richard Pearce
Atheistic-agnostic Canadian polymath
09:54 AM on 03/11/2012
What is interesting is that polls of Iranians say they see their system as being as democratic and representative of them as Americans say the American system is.
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GilGamish
Exposing the charlatans
10:12 AM on 03/12/2012
here's a link to a poll that says you are wrong. let's see the one you are citing.

http://articles.cnn.com/2007-07-16/world/iran.poll_1_nuclear-weapons-nuclear-inspections-president-mahmoud-ahmadinejad?_s=PM:WORLD
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kodimirpal
teacher
12:01 PM on 03/12/2012
@GilGamish, stpmdn

American democracy is as much subject to criticism as Iranian or Indian democracy
There are candidates producing organizations in the US.

For example in 2004, we had two men, both went to the same elite university,
both joined the same secret society (Ivy League secret societies) for training people
to be members of the ruling elite. Both were able to run because they were supported by the same Military Industrial Complex of the US.

They had an election in which issues were almost totally suppressed The elections were run by the public relations industry. There were more or less on the level of tooth paste advertisements. The idea is to delude people by imagery not by facts.

That is the way American election campaigns are conducted.
The voters are unaware of the stand of the candidates on the issues.
Voters are misinformed about candidates positions.

The election is diverted to topics that people who really run the country do not care
much about, the so called cultural issues.

But most issues of real concern to people are just off the agenda.
The American political system can not mention an issue supported by
a large majority of the population is a sign of serious deterioration of democracy.

The US has formal institutions but they are functioning.
There are real democratic deficiencies and we blame Iran with similar criticism as if
we ran the best system.
11:12 AM on 03/11/2012
All iran has to do is to give more power to the president instead of the supreme leader and re-do its candidate vetting process and it'll become a true democracy.
10:29 PM on 03/10/2012
Obama just gave Israel the go ahead for war with Iran

Just not in 2012...
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09:46 PM on 03/10/2012
The only one who can sabotage US-Iran dipolmacy is Iran.
09:12 PM on 03/10/2012
I am truly amazed at the comments here. Iran should give another country access to their military installations. I could agree when the country requiring the inspections also give Iran access to their military installations. Of course we're not talking about being fair.
Are we afraid that they will acquire one atomic bomb and it will somehow destroy our thousand atomic and hydrogen bombs??
Did we go to war when India achieved a bomb? Did we go to war when Pakistan achieved a bomb? did we go to war when North Korea achieved a bomb? Did we go to war when Israel achieved an atomic bomb?
Tell me why or how this is any different??? If one atomic bomb causes us to go to war we should have had a thousand wars with Russia.
Before you go to war you had better dream up a better reason than this.
We should go to war when the troops are at our border or the war planes are actually headed towards us, and NOT before.
All of you people wanting war had better get your uniforms pressed and ready and get some for your kids. I served my military time and I'll not let my son get killed for you.
09:08 PM on 03/10/2012
"We certainly shouldn't make it our ultimatum so that it blocks opportunities to achieve our real goal--preventing Iran from actually building a bomb." Really? Is that our REAL goal? Hardly! As Cheney, himself, said: Iraq was just a stepping stone to the crown jewel- Iran. Our REAL goal is to firmly secure our national resource- OIL. The invasion of Iraq was about OIL- pure and simple. Saddam, stiffed Cheney and Rumsfeld by not signing on to the US 'oil standard' and so, he went from friend to evil enemy. The friends of the US have included some of the worst dictators on the planet. Why did we befriend them? It was in our national interest. Screw the peole that were butchered. But now Americans are becoming 'those' people. Folks, you count as much as those people that the US has allowed to be butchered. It's a global national interest now.
06:58 PM on 03/10/2012
"This is the precondition that the Bush Administration adopted, which yielded nothing but Iranian nuclear advances throughout his term."

Obama's diplomacy has fared no better. The problem with both policies is that they ignore the simple reality that Iran wants nuclear weapons and you can't convince them otherwise. There is no diplomatic way to stop them from acquiring nuclear weapons. The time to load our warplanes with bunker busters and stop them ourselves was yesterday.
07:48 PM on 03/10/2012
Yeah!!! . . .that really worked in Iraq. We couldn't convince Hussein to get rid of his Weapons of Mass Destruction, either. But when we launched our military attack, we scared 'em so bad that those Weapons of Mass Destruction were gone before our soldiers could even get there! Wouldn't it be too cool to land one of our military jets in Baharestan Square towing a big "Mission Accomplished" sign?
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Yossarian22
08:16 PM on 03/10/2012
No, the reality is that there's no proof that Iran is working on a nuclear weapon. There is only evidence that they are improving their overall nuclear capacities and this may one day allow them, if they so choose, to pursue a weapon.

But most importantly, the reason Iran may want to pursue a weapon is simple: self-defense. Iran is surrounded by US bases and every inch of their country is within easy US range of American missiles and drones. We have overthrown previous governments when they challenged us(Mossadegh), encouraged our proxies to attack them at the cost of millions of Iranian lives(the Iran-Iraq war), conducted terrorist attacks against them(either the US or Israel or both; Stuxnet and through the proxy group the MEK. In addition, we shot down an Iranian civilian airline jet, Iran Air Flight 655 in '88, for which we never apologized) and threatened them with attacks in response to their peace overtures(post 9/11.) What country in that position wouldn't legitimately be frightened for its own safety? If you beat the war drums, war will come.
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09:27 PM on 03/10/2012
Reality 2.0 is that preemptive attacks violate the US Constitution. When America signed the U.N. Charter in 1945 we chose to abide by Article 51, which states that military force in self-defense necessitates a response to an "armed attack". Yup, unless the year's great Satan steps up and chooses suicide.

Heaven and earth, Congress and Israel, are illegal.
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Baghooli
Immortals!
05:27 PM on 03/10/2012
"Which Side's Hardliners Will Sabotage US-Iran Diplomacy?"
Religion, generally speaking vast majority of militant supporters are the ones without higher education (university graduates!), and this is true in all societies!
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
05:11 PM on 03/10/2012
The good news is Iran isn't as opaque as North Korea comparatively. And we know they have a simmering human rights, opposition political movement that threatens the ruling oligarchy. North Korea has no such thing. And they could well already have made a couple of bombs unlike Iran. Now why is Iran always a greater threat than North Korea? Culture, religion, revenge for 1979? Shouldn't it be the other way round if the only thing we're so worried about are their nukes? Or do we & Israel have other designs in mind?
04:55 PM on 03/10/2012
"Rate moment?" Iran has been pulling this one for years and Obama has been a sucker for it all along. What doubt is there anymore, with the IAEA conclusion that "While some of the activities identified in the Annex have civilian as well as military applications, others are specific to nuclear weapons." Par. 44, http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2011/gov2011-65.pdf

Time to draw a line in the sand.
04:08 PM on 03/10/2012
How badly do you want to pay $60.00 for a gallon of gasoline?

If we go to war with Iran, that's what will happen. Neither Libermann, Casey, or Graham will take any responsibility for their attempts to undermine President Obama. Rather than blaming President Obama, let's blame the GOP and the Israel lobby.
07:01 PM on 03/10/2012
Gasoline prices won't go that high as a result of a strike against Iran. This is exactly why we have a strategic reserve.
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Martin Houde
I am no microbe
09:05 PM on 03/10/2012
Really ? How gas prices reacted the last time the US and Iran were up in arms against one another ? They shot up tremendously. It's not Iraq. Iran, through the Strait of Hormuz, controls not only its own exportation, but the transportation of Iraq, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrein, United Arab Emirates and some Saudi oil...

What happened with the strategic reserve the last two gas hikes ? Nothing was touched.