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Don't Send Your Kids to College

Posted: 01/04/10 11:35 AM ET

Somehow I went wrong as a father. The other day my two daughters informed me they eventually want to go to college. I said, "No way!" and they attempted to argue with me. I have no problem with them talking back to me but somehow they've been brainwashed by society into thinking that college is a good thing for young, intelligent, ambitious young people. Let's look at the basic facts about higher education.

The average tuition cost is approximately $16,000 per year. Plus assume another $10,000 in living costs, books, etc. $26,000 in total for a complete cost of $104,000 in a 4 year period. Some people choose to go more expensive by going to a private college and some people choose to go a little cheaper by going public but this is an average. Also, a huge assumption is that its just for a 4 year period. According to the Department of Education, only 54% of undergraduates graduate within 6 years. So for the 46% that don't graduate, or take 10 years to graduate, this is a horrible investment. But lets assume your children are in the brilliant first half who finish within six years (and hopefully within four).

Is it worth it? First, let's look at it completely from a monetary perspective. Over the course of a lifetime, according to CollegeBoard, a college graduate can be expected to earn $800,000 more than his counterpart that didn't go to college. $800,000 is a big spread and it could potentially separate the haves from the have-nots. But who has and who doesn't?

If I took that $104,000 and I chose to invest it in a savings account that had interest income of 5% per year I'd end up with an extra $1.4 million dollars over a 50 year period. A full $600,000 more. That $600,000 is a lot of extra money an 18 year old could look forward to in her retirement. I also think the $800,000 quoted above is too high. Right now most motivated kids who have the interest and resources to go to college think it's the only way to go if they want a good job. If those same kids decided to not go to college my guess is they would quickly close the gap on that $800,000 spread.

There are other factors as well. I won't be spending $104,000 per child when my children, ages 10 and 7, decide to go to college. College costs have historically gone up much faster than inflation. Since 1978, cost of living has gone up three-fold. Medical costs, much to the horror of everyone in Congress, has gone up six-fold. And college education has gone up a whopping tenfold. This is beyond the housing bubble, the stock market bubble, any bubble you can think of.

So how can people afford college? Well, how has the US consumer afforded anything? They borrow it, of course. The average student now graduates with a $23,000 debt burden. Up from $13,000 12 years ago. Last year, student borrowings totaled $75 billion, up 25% from the year before. If students go on to graduate degrees such as law degrees they can see their debt burden soar to $200,000 or more. And the easy borrowing convinces colleges that they can raise prices even more.

So what should people do instead?

One idea: start a business. You don't need to be an entrepreneur to get valuable experience selling a service, or buying some set of goods cheap and selling them expensive. A year or two of that will be a massive education in salesmanship, finance, and how to deal with the ups and downs of any business. And if you're missing out on the 500 page books on The Deconstruction of Television then buy a Kindle and read in your spare time. Maybe travel a bit. Or learn to paint. All of these things can be done cheap, will provide massive life experience, and maybe even make some money.

 
 
 

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09:50 AM on 03/04/2010
This is absolutely brilliant. College is a scam. I've felt this way about it for a long time. I learn more in one week of running a business than I ever learned in an entire semester at college. To the people who argue that you can't make money without an education - you wish. It's like the people who come out of a carnival sideshow, having been ripped off, and tell other people it was worth the money. They don't want to admit to having been duped. I wish I'd started a business - even a lawnmowing business - right out of high school instead of going to college. I did like certain things about college - like the social side and a few pre-grad and post-grad fellowships I received, but apart from that I'd ditch the whole experience. I am NOT saying I'd rather work for minimum wage - like as a bartender - than go to college. I did that, also, and you don't learn much there either.
12:39 AM on 01/29/2010
Wow. Let's hope your non-college educated daughters never need to work to support themselves, let alone a family.
01:42 PM on 03/03/2010
Jim, loved your analysis. If you go to my my website www.success4teens.com and at the bottom click "college" for a more in depth review of what kids are faced with.!!!!

Best Regards, Bill
09:01 AM on 01/08/2010
I can't help but laugh at this, it seems like a joke. I don't know exactly what traumatizing experience you had to make you feel this way but if this is what you're going to do then you better start training your daughters now to say "Do you want fries with that?"
05:44 PM on 01/06/2010
This is one of the more ridiculous things I have read in a long time. The people that need college the most are kids from poor social-economic backgrounds who don't have $100,000 laying around the house. Secondly I wonder how many highschool graduates this hedgefund manager would be willing to hire as an apprentice to work in his hedgefund. His kids will probably go to very good schools as will almost all of the kids of his friends and associates, meanwhile he is spitting out this drivel like it is the gospel truth. Excuse me if i come on too strong, but I volunteer alot of my time working with inner city kids to prepare and convince them to attend college and reeading this kind of non-sense from what I suspect is a very wealthy man irks me.
02:45 PM on 01/06/2010
James,

You advise to simply invest the money one would otherwise spend on tuition. It seems as if you're implying one has a lump sum of around $104,000 to immediately invest, which is a bit ludicrous. You later go on to ask how people can afford college. Here's an idea. Perhaps you should take your own advice and begin to invest some of your money, so the fund will potentially have enough after 18 years to allow your children to get an education. Besides, what type of society do you intend on creating with a bunch of uneducated, "rich" people?
12:46 PM on 01/05/2010
An education is a wonderful thing Learning is something we should all be encouraged to pursue throughout our lifetimes. The question is: is getting an education the main reason most students enroll in college or is obtaining a degree merely one of the hurdles over which one must leap in order have a better chance of landing a decent job? For students who are genuinely enthusiastic about their curricula and who are really learning something - great. For those, whom I suspect are in the majority, who are just jumping hurdles on their way to a hoped-for job the whole process may be a waste of time and money. Since this is all about business, I have a businesslike suggestion. Instead of forcing students to slog through four or more years of tedium at great expense to their parents, why not simply sell degrees. Say $10,000 to $20,000 for a bachelors, with an upward sliding scale for advanced degrees. Prestige institutions, of course, would charge much more. The colleges would continue to make money, Mom and Dad would realize a big savings, and the young people would get a four year head start on life, with perhaps a healthy savings account as well.
And, since our economy hasn't been creating many middle class jobs in recent decades, the hope that a college education will lead to a better living may be a cruel illusion.
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11:42 PM on 01/04/2010
"If I took that $104,000 and I chose to invest it in a savings account that had interest income of 5% per year I'd end up with an extra $1.4 million dollars over a 50 year period."

you know of a savings account that is offering 5% interest?
08:21 PM on 01/04/2010
Rich kids go to college to grow up. Poor kids go into the military.

As far as employment skills are concerned, one probably is better off becoming a plumber, electrician, mechanic or salesperson. I have had too many friends who have spent a lot of time and money on a college degree and have not reaped huge rewards for their investment. Having grown up in a university town, I am too familiar with PhDs who make a living bussing tables, being store clerks, or finding a job as a minor bureaucrat.

Get the college degree because you enjoy learning or because you want to expand your world, or to find a good spouse. But don't think of it as the path to riches.
04:57 PM on 01/04/2010
After several decades of college teaching in a "major" (read "Jock School") university in Pennsylvania, I happily retired. Students, being treated as consumers (and just as the rest of our nation, "the consumer is always right") avoided difficult courses, rejected "required" courses, and sought out the most pleasant and agreeable faculty they could (academic qualification was inconsequential). The well-paid "administrative class" -- who neither taught nor learned, and was almost entirely composed of academic failures -- obtained office/secretary/titles, etc. These "Directors, Deans, Chairs, Vice-Presidents, Heads, etc." were often not even connected to any classroom activity whatsoever, as we had such as an "Assistant Sports Information Director" (with office, secretary, etc.). These parasites have for some years well outnumber the faculty at my former college. Parents who feel financial pressure in sending their children off to college might well take a look at the college catalog before deciding. Perhaps colleges might stop ripping off parents when the parents decide to ask some hard questions, such as who teachers the subject? A part-timer underpaid and without any benefits and who subsidize the "millionaire" advertising show profs? It is well past time that docile parents, who are the money cows milked by the institution ask a few hard questions. A college education is seldom worth what is now being paid for it. Perhaps a good dose of Recession might help the bloated colleges flush out the parasites, and recognize that "non-profit" means just that.
04:13 PM on 01/04/2010
The problem with this proposal is that society values a college education, for both good reasons and stupid ones, and that not having a degree puts you at a disadvantage from the starting gate. You might not think that that is fair, but it's just an established fact. And, honestly, why SHOULDN'T a job go to someone who was willing to put in the time and the money to prepare themselves with a relevant education as opposed to someone who wasn't? Investing in yourself doesn't always pay off in direct monetary ways, but it enriches your life across the board. We are not all entrepreneurs - I would have been a horrible business owner at 18 because I was immature. I found college to be a great transitional period from childhood to adulthood without the rude shocks of being immediately responsible for running an adult life with all the responsiblity that that entails. I needed that period of study and part-time work to ease me into independent adulthood That alone was worth investing some money in, in my opinion. I agree with you that life experience and informal or self-directed learning should count for more, and I also agree that college is far too expensive now, but that doesn't mean that it is valueless.
03:39 PM on 01/04/2010
We need more educated people in this country. Going to college is a good idea.
01:51 PM on 01/04/2010
I went to Drexel on a scholarship and graduated with a GPA of 3.96 with a very competitive double major- on time, no failing, no lazing, huge stress and enormous commitment. I am super enthusiastic, keen to learn, passionate, want to work and whip myself into preparing for interviews like mad. I thought I must be dumb but I do in the 2% of the pop or somethinglikethat in IQ tests but still can't find a paid job to save my life. I've been working unpaid on a fixed-term K for months and now they are screwing me around - basically being total jerks because they can be - even though my director loves me. Not to mention the sexism and advices of "factoring in" tending to my unborn future fictional babies some day just because I am a girl. I am thinking of starting another unpaid, fixed-term at an investment bank.
My big sister thinks that my desperation has eaten away my nerves and composure and I should chill, accepting fate as it is. She's probably right.
But was it all worth it? No, absolutely not - should have worked as a sun-kissed long-legged blonde bar tender somewhere in Brazil, dispensing advice to lovesick drunkards instead. Or anything, for that matter.
There's too many people going to college, the world does not need all of us.
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01:50 PM on 01/04/2010
Fascinating - I am the homeschool father of six who were raised on the premise that a 4-year degree was the minimum they would get after graduation, and THEY would pay for it, WITHOUT borrowing. So far two have graduated from state universities where they got NO financial aid as they were HOMESCHOOLED - the aid was built on the phony GOVERNMENT HIGH SCHOOL performance with the 4+GPA's. Oldest was VALEDICTORIAN, is on her doctorate program with a full fellowship after studies at Oxford and Columbia on other's dimes. Second is graduated with honors and $5,000 in debt on government loans as the interest he gets on the money in his checking account is greater than what he has to pay on the loan. Also, he is in line for a government job that will forgive the loan. The third - senior in college, all paid up, no loans. Fourth is a sophomore, $20k in the bank for the last two years, piece of cake as tuition rates are great in NC, where all have gone to state universities, three different schools to date. Fifth is in her freshman year, will have enough soon to complete, the sixth, sophomore in high school will start dual enrollment next year. IT CAN BE DONE IF YOU VALUE IT AND PLAN FOR IT!
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01:42 PM on 01/04/2010
BTW, just as all the relaxed borrowing for home loans made home prices shoot up to unrealistic levels, the same thing happened in Education. The wide availability of student loans and heavy demand from HS students to attend college made it possible for colleges to continue to raise their tuition fees. If demand was lower for expensive education, colleges would be forced to lower their tuition fees.

Unfortunately many of the colleges assumed these tuition dollars would inflate forever and they decided to use the money to build research facilities, country club residences, etc. This means it is financially difficult for them now to lower tuition.

The biggest problem for Americans is their 'perception' of college. We bought into the concept that 'if my child gets accepted, he deserves the education, and price of tuition should not matter'. This "blind need' idea increased demand at colleges, and they continued to increase tuition fees. At what point will we say the small liberal arts college isn't worth the price? At $30,000 / year? $60,000 / year? $90,000 / year? Colleges have been marketing for 30 years to this concept of "deserving" an expensive education. No one was willing to say the emperor wears no clothes.

Maybe the top 30 universities in the country are worth $40,000 / year (Ivy's and the west coast Ivy's and a few of the Techs like Cal Poly and MIT). The rest need to rethink their mission and expenses.
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01:34 PM on 01/04/2010
I read a statistic last week that college educated workers had a 2% unemployment rate in 2005 and only a 4/% unemployment rate in 2009. In comparison, high school diploma workers had a 7% unemployment rate in 2005 and a 13% unemployment rate in 2009. I'll try to find the stat so I can cite the link properly. My point obviously being that college grads have a wider range of skills to offer employers and a wider network of contacts to help them find jobs.

If your daughters want to go to college, you should support their hopes and dreams. But I don't think you - or they - should borrow money to achieve a college diploma. They can attend community college for 2 years and then switch to a state school, and graduate debt-free.