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James Altucher

James Altucher

Posted: November 30, 2009 04:41 PM

Why All The Hate Towards Goldman Sachs?

What's Your Reaction?

Ok, I get it. People are angry at Goldman Sachs. Not just annoyed, but really really angry. Here are some of the things people hate about Goldman:

- They got 100 cents on the dollar on their $13bb CDS contracts with AIG when AIG got bailed out. In other words, they behaved as they were supposed to do, within the interests of their shareholders (which includes most of Main Street through 401k plans) and their tens of thousands of employees.

- They paid themselves huge bonuses with the money that was earmarked for the AIG bailout that then was used to pay AIG's largest creditor, Goldman Sachs. All of this while ex-Goldman employees were among the government officials making decisions.

- They survived with their business model largely intact and their stock price now significantly higher than it was last year. Shame!

On this site there has various posts dishing out the hate, including this one and this one.

In another article one person in the comments even suggested that all the Goldman money was "being sent to Israel" and when I suggested in a reply that the facts don't back that up another commenter wrote, "its true" without putting in any specifics. Many people are only happy when they are hating something mysterious, ugly, and an easy target.

Let's look at the groups or people that perhaps deserve your anger more.

A) Former Clinton HUD secretary Andrew Cuomo who set an unrealistic goal of 70% of the US owning homes (up from 60%, which was far more realistic). More on this in a Village Voice article from 2008. Of course, should we blame Cuomo or Cuomo's boss Bill Clinton?

B) Barney Frank, who passed laws forcing Fannie Mae to start reducing its lending standards into the subprime arena. He also repeatedly voted against the idea of appointing any overseers to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac despite the fact that they guaranteed over half the mortgages in the US. More on this here.

C) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that used the implicit moral backing of the US government to get cheap financing while practicing every fraud in the book.

D) AIG which manages to still survive as a public company despite being on the hook for over $200bb to the American taxpayer. AIG's special products division should've been separated out from the company, declared bankruptcy and then negotiated with all of its creditors. Not sure why Geithner, Paulson, and even Bush and later Obama didn't force this issue.

E) FASB for putting mark-to-market in place right when the housing bubble was starting to crack. Banks (and AIG) forced to mark their CDS contracts to the illiquid (and probably hedge fund manipulated) ABX index immediately lost billions in value on their balance sheet and were forced into near insolvency.

F) The SEC for revoking the uptick rule at the peak of the market in 2007. Is it so bad for a shortseller to have to wait for an uptick before he can sell (with stock he doesn't own) a stock? We'll never know the extent to which "bear raids" caused the downfall of many banks in the summer and fall of 2008 but they certainly had an effect in increasing the panic Main Street felt In many short sales, no hard locate of shares are required. Removing the uptick rule allowed people to simply crush stocks in the middle of a panic and then cover days or even weeks (or in some cases months) later without ever having to locate the shares they sold.

The list goes on but, better yet, why be angry at all?

We had a crisis. Now the market is coming back (stocks are up and even housing prices are up 4 months in a row). Anger doesn't solve any problems at all and Main Street still equals Wall Street with most 401ks still heavily invested in the stock market. Anger is not going to bring the economy back. Nor will it help your wallet very much. And dwelling on it (particularly when its grossly misplaced) probably won't increase your joy of life. Instead, how about we focus on making some money? Let's buy some stocks and enjoy the holiday season.

Here are three stocks I'm thankful I've had the opportunity to buy in recent weeks thanks to artificially low prices. And here's an insurance company, I think could be the next Berkshire and here is some analysis of super-investor John Paulson's latest picks. At the end of the day people should be focused on their own wallets and not anyone else's.

 
 
 

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05:16 AM on 12/05/2009
The sad fact is there are lots of people to blame, and none of them has been held accountable. Bill Clinton openned the door to reckless greed when he de-regulated the financial services industry in 1999, Goldman Sachs financed Las Vegas on Wall Street, and AIG insured it against losses, but only with taxpayer money. Clinton with his HUD policy also assured a long line of average Americans who the greedy banks could exploit with preditory lending, illusionary profits to generate big bonsues, and an ulitmate collapse that taxpayers had to clean up.

When capitalism succeeds, shareholders get dividends and the inidividuals who make short-term decisions with reckless long-term consequences get obscenely huge bonuses. When capitialism fails, shareholders lose their investments, taxpayers bailout the risk taking companies, and the people who make recklessly bad decisions still get obscenely huge bonuses. And Bill Clinton, the public policy architect with fingerpints all over the financial fiasco gets mega millions. Great system.
04:36 PM on 12/01/2009
The above article oversimplifies. it implies that people hate Goldman only because it's successful. No doubt, there is a fair amount of this. And while I don't buy into Goldman conspiracy theories, such as Paulson by design removingf three of Goldman's chief competitors, I do believe there is much that should concern us. There can be little debate that Wall Street's relationship with Washington has served it well and stifled reform. There can also be little debate that appointment of former Wall Street executives to a variety of government posts establishes an appearance of conflict whether such conflict actually plays out. Additionally, it is cwell known that Goldman executives serve in more prominent government posts than the former executives of any other Wall Street firm. Is this the best way to assure the American public that Washington is interacting without compromise with Wall Street? Clearly not. Moreover, if one supposes that there may be some flow of information between Wall Street government appointees and their former firms, it would appear that Goldman gets more of this than any other.

This is not meant to imply that Goldman's success is mainly due to favors from Washington. Still, I believe we would see greater progress in financial reform if former Wall Street executives and Wal;l Street lobbies exited Washington. Goldman would also likely find itself less criticized -- whether the criticisms are valid or not -- if as prominent government post ceased to be the brass ring that follows a prosperous Goldman
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02:45 PM on 12/01/2009
I get it.....you want me to BUY stock....drink an herbal tea....and be happy....so you can borrow my shares, sell them short, and make a killing when the next shoes drops.....

Same ole same ole...........
11:43 AM on 12/01/2009
"The list goes on but, better yet, why be angry at all? "

I don't hate the Yankees. They enjoy a competetive advantage because of their strategic position in their marketplace. This I have no problem with. They still have to win games on the field.

Goldman, however, is what the Yankees would be if they were allowed to hire the umpires. They would win every game 250-0. They'd go 162-0 and sweep the playoffs to win the World Series year after year.

Why be angy when Goldman and your kind define Free Markets as free from risk? Why be angry then when I all have to do is assume actual risk with MY money in the stock market?

Nice try with the "Let them eat cake' argument.
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12:03 PM on 12/01/2009
Exactly. If I believed (which I don't) that GS was operating in a truly unbiased market environment and still made all that money, that would be one thing. But the DC cronyism is what people are pissed about and that the game is rigged to Wall Street's advantage.

We need actual economists running the Treasury, i.e. the likes of Krugman, Warren, et al, not former Wall Street gamblers. Bernanke has the creds, but drank too much of the Greenspan Kool-Aid.

When GS and their ilk work to create jobs rather than simply print money, then we can start the fan club.
11:04 AM on 12/01/2009
How the financial media has lied about Goldman Sachs:

It is commonly said that Goldman Sachs got a 13-billion dollar bailout of taxpayer dollars. They're evil doers, so we can end the discussion right there, right?

Except, it's a false accusation.

After the Federal Reserve loaned AIG 85 billion, GS got three payments from AIG:

2.5 billion
5.6 billion
4.8 billion
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12.9 billion
=========

At that point, Goldman Sachs gave back 4.8 billion in highly liquid agency securities (guaranteed by the United States government) to AIG, which was then owned in part by the taxpayers of the United States.

So that means the alleged taxpayer bailout of 13 billion immediately shrank to 8.1 billion.

Not done. The 5.6 billion was a payment for an asset. So Goldman Sachs transferred 5.6 billion in devalued CDOs to the Federal Reserve. This reduced their balance sheet by 5.6 billion.

Balance sheet before 12.9 billion payment:

X dollars
--------------
12.9 - AIG cash
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X+12.9 billion dollars
(4.8) - securities returned to AIG
(5.6) - CDO ownership transferred to ML III
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X + 2.5 - BS after 12.9 billion payment completed
======================================

If this transaction were to be reverse, GS would make money as the agency securities have appreciated, and the implication is the GS portion of ML III has appreciated.
07:20 AM on 12/01/2009
You're right, James. I'll send everone at Sachs of Gold man a christmas card and apologize for my contempt. Suggesting everyone has misplaced anger and that giving you some money for investments would cure the problem is disingenous at best. Your article may even have been thought of as tounge in cheek as you wrote it. Suggesting that everything has turned around now and that we are fixing the problem is also disingenuous at best. There will be more corrections in our future as it was a choice of saving Wall Street or the dollar, but not both. Guess which was picked? People in this country would be wise to take their 401k and cash it out before it disappears, using the money to buy gold, or repair their homes. The end of your articles shows it for what it is, a sales pitch from a hungry invement shill. I suggest you learn a trade that will be useful to yourself and others as opposed to making money producing nothing. You too will be part of the transformation whether you believe it or not.
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08:19 AM on 12/01/2009
No sales pitch here. People can invest on their own. They don't need anybody's help, including mine. Please reread the end of the article as there is definitely no sales pitch.
07:10 AM on 12/01/2009
Great points - plenty of blame to go around.

Also, one unusually profound point"

"--> Many people are only happy when they are hating
12:50 AM on 12/01/2009
I was focused on my wallet, before and after the crash. Tell you what, you get Goldman Sachs out of the White House, the Senate and the Congress and we'll call it even. Until then stop talking down to your audience and telling them that they are stupid for blaming Goldman Sachs when it was Goldman Sachs writing the laws, running the treasury and economy with insiders named Ruben, Summers, and Henry Paulson just to name a few. They are profiting off our tax dollars while the rest of us struggle just to make ends meet. They caused the meltdown and now they are profiting off it with our money. That's called Socialism for the failures and the rich and Capitalism for the rest of us. Sorry, but your argument makes no sense. Goldman Sachs should be broken up into small pieces. They have gotten way too powerful. BTW, you're buying into another bubble.
10:33 AM on 12/01/2009
Goldman Sachs did not cause the credit crisis.

One theory of the SIGTARP report, as hideous as it is, is that Goldman Sachs would have been damaged had an AIG bankruptcy occurred, thus affirming the strategic correctness of Paulson-Bernanke- Geithner decision to bail out AIG because its externalities would have caused a chain-reaction death spiral in the financial sector, which would have expanded into a death spiral in all business and government sectors.
01:51 PM on 12/01/2009
And, yet the corruption and trading practices that made the economy collapse are still in play by GS. Goldman Sachs should be broken up as should BofA and Citibank. We can make all the excuses in the world for what TARP did or didn't do or what would have happened or didn't happen if they weren't bailed. The fact remains is that nothing has changed. So I would argue that the death spiral is still occurring only at a slower pace. And, there are plenty of us out on main street who are sinking on that financial death spiral faster than what is reported in the media.
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09:57 PM on 11/30/2009
Hate is a bit strong. Disgust is better. The answer is: front running, derivatives, toxic debt, planting of 'sleeper' stooges in or near positions of power, undermining of competition, stripping the bones of companies like AIG at 100 cents on the dollar immediately before and then again after it went bankrupt. Little things like that tend to disgust those that see it.
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11:10 PM on 11/30/2009
Hate is the word used to attempt to obliterate an opponents logic, argument and facts. The Republicans labeled Democrats as 'Bush-haters' whenever a democrat disagreed with a BUSH policy. The underhand innuendo is that the opponent has moved into illogical emotional disturbance and can therefore be dismissed. The same linguistic tactic was used on women for centuries to keep them as second-class citizens. In other words: we have a cheap, outdated push for power based on the assumed powerful class assigning a demeaning emotional/cognitive state to those they are attempting to dominate and control.; very classy and mature.
09:23 PM on 11/30/2009
My god! Finally, someone says it. After spending 3 years reading the HP, enjoying every anti-Bush and anti-war article leading up to last fall, I've been getting more and more annoyed with the one-track mind on here recently.

GS is a company, not a charity. Companies are around to make money for their employees and shareholders. GS has done a remarkable job of that. There are plenty of things that went wrong with the bailout and how it was structured, but GS is not to blame for that. We need financial reform in the US, but we also need to stop the vitriol and un-constructive GS bashing that is all the rage on this site. Thanks James - lets stop the conspiracy theories, and make some productive changes!

Grateful4TheDead: That's just not true. "Some have cited, although incorrectly as others have noted,[86] that Goldman Sachs received preferential treatment from the government by being the only Wall Street firm to have participated in the crucial September meetings at the New York Fed, which decided AIG's fate. Much of this has stemmed from an inaccurate but often quoted New York Times article. The article was later corrected to state that Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs, was "one of the Wall Street chief executives at the meeting" (emphasis added)." See - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/business/28melt.html?_r=1 (correction is at the bottom).
12:56 AM on 12/01/2009
You're wrong. GS was heavily leveraged in AIG and in the very derivatives that took the market down. They are making profits now because they are engaged in the same practices that got us into this bubble in the first place. GS was in the room at the time of the bailout in the conference. As was AIG, Citi, Bof A etc. This isn't anti-GS vitriol, this is anger based on injustices and the behaviours of an arrogant corporation run by arrogant corporate CEO's. Give me a break. Stop blaming the very people who are now criticizing GS who were the victims of GS and their influence in D.C.
08:47 PM on 12/01/2009
Thanks for your contribution to this thread. What remains to be explained is why HP, widely alleged to be a progressive blog, would print a piece like this one.
01:30 AM on 12/01/2009
tokyobound companies and people should be judged not only by how much
money they earned but by how honest they are. Goldman & Sacks bribed
our Politicians to make financial manipulation legal. They made billions
we lost our pensions jobs and homes.
08:21 PM on 11/30/2009
There is no rational reason to be angry with Goldman Sachs.

But list of people with whom to be angry is wildly off.

There is nothing wrong with setting a goal for minority home ownership. What was wrong was to marshall your buddies in the private sector to build 5.5 million houses for minority families in 7 years, and to ask your buddies in the mortgage origination industries to come up with applications that skated all and any lending standards. You won't find Clinton's name on this lunacy; you'll find the Bush, Rove, and Alphonso Jackson. And you can find a lot of books about how minority home ownership would eventually induce minorities into voting Republican.
08:12 PM on 11/30/2009
"D) AIG which manages to still survive as a public company despite being on the hook for over $200bb to the American taxpayer. AIG's special products division should've been separated out from the company, declared bankruptcy and then negotiated with all of its creditors. Not sure why Geithner, Paulson, and even Bush and later Obama didn't force this issue. ..."

Because it wasn't possible to do.
08:04 PM on 11/30/2009
Please explain why the only private citizen sitting at the table alongside Henry Paulson during the AIG bailout was Lloyd Blankfein.

Thank you.
07:35 PM on 11/30/2009
In all sincerity, I wonder if you're playing a game not unlike that played by the Intelligent Design folks. To wit, an I.D. proponent might ask me what I, personally, know about the teachings of Darwin, let alone modern knowledge derived from same. My honest answer would have to be, not much. So why do I believe what I'm told by science about evolution? Because I trust their scholarly consensus infinitely more than I trust reverse confidence games played by conservatives with an agenda.

Similarly, what I know about finance, the economy, etc. wouldn't quite fill the head of a pin. But I've listened to report after report of massive greed mixed with a socially destructive level of irresponsibility, most of it on the part of Wall Street. So, what do I believe? A common finding in a preponderance of similar reports from a diversity of news sources, or a piece which reads for all the world like an apologist's essay?
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07:34 PM on 11/30/2009
A - Friggin - MEN!!!