James Boyce

James Boyce

Posted: December 20, 2007 11:40 AM

Spinning The Spinning Versus Lying Like A Basta*d

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Some posts pop right out. Some brew for a long time. This one has been brewing and now pops. A double whammy.

Here's my issue. I get spinning your story if you're running for office, I get it, really. But with information available at everyone's fingertips, and google a click away, can we just stop LYING?

I mean the absolute fabrication of points and facts. It's stupid.

And can we as a community please, please, please, whack and keep whack those who lie until they get that they just can't lie.

Sometimes it's one of our own. Bill "I was always against the war" Clinton but today, it's one of our favorite targets. Mitt Romney. (this is the popping part.) Dave at BlueMassGroup wrote about Mitt Romney's claim that his father marched with Reverend Martin Luther King, Jr.

Now, THIS IS A LIE.

A LIE.

That Romney repeated and repeated and repeated.

This is not okay.

It's not okay to amplify it.

It's not okay to try and spin the lie away.

If you can get away with PURE LIES, then what incentive is there for someone to run who wants to discuss the truth?

Mitt Romney is A LIAR.

Does that matter anymore?


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No, it doesn't matter anymore. Conservatives believe in the whole deterrence thing, right? I mean, that's the whole idea of the death penalty? Well, we see our leaders (that's presidents and vice presidents and senators and attorneys general secretaries of state and military generals and governors and former mayors and major influential TV commentators and - admittedly- whitehouse spokesmen) LYING ALL THE TIME!

And NO consequences. Zero. So why not lie? Even if you are eventually caught, the correction will be on page A-38 so who cares?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 12/20/2007
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"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes."
-Mark Twain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 12/20/2007
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This seems like something that is difficult to prove or disprove. But his father was known as a supporter of civil rights.

I don't know... out of all the flip-flops and lies from Mitt, this one is pretty tame. Seems odd to put so much focus on this. There's much juicier red meat on Mitt!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 12/20/2007
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Why do they do it?
Lie, that is.
Well, plain and simple; it's because only around 30% of the people bother to check facts (lies) and that number is even lower if the facts (lies) are presented by someone they support.

Case in point: There are still a great number of people, some college educated, who insist that Clinton was impeached for a sexual transgression.

So, they do it because it works.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 12/20/2007

No. If you repeat a lie enough times, it BECOMES the truth. As in 'we still have a constitution'. That is a lie but repeat it enough and it becomes true. It's really a great way to run a country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 12/20/2007
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