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James Kwak

Posted: March 1, 2010 11:40 AM

Krugman: No Bill Is Better Than a Weak Bill

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Paul Krugman begins this morning's column this way:

So here's the situation. We've been through the second-worst financial crisis in the history of the world, and we've barely begun to recover: 29 million Americans either can't find jobs or can't find full-time work. Yet all momentum for serious banking reform has been lost. The question now seems to be whether we'll get a watered-down bill or no bill at all. And I hate to say this, but the second option is starting to look preferable.

Krugman says he would be satisfied with the House bill, but that the need to bring moderate Democrats and at least one Republican on board in the Senate could lead to a severely watered-down bill, in particular one without a Consumer Financial Protection Agency. Instead of accepting such a deal, he says:

In summary, then, it's time to draw a line in the sand. No reform, coupled with a campaign to name and shame the people responsible, is better than a cosmetic reform that just covers up failure to act.

Krugman recognizes that this is structurally different from what he said about health care reform. In Larissa MacFarquhar's recent profile of him in The New Yorker, discussing health care, he said, "There's a trap I've seen some people fall into -- you let your vision of what should be get completely taken over by what appears possible right now -- and that's something I'm trying to avoid." Now he's avoiding it.

I generally enjoyed that article. For one thing, I remembered that Krugman and I had a similar perspective on the 2008 Democratic primary (Obama was the most conservative of the major candidates and spouted a lot of "feel-good stuff about hope and dialogue and reconciliation"); both of us supported Edwards, although he switched to Clinton when Edwards dropped out and I switched to Obama.

For another, there's something else we have in common. Explaining why, after the fall of the Berlin Wall, he didn't set out to consult to post-Communist or developing countries, Krugman says, "I know what Jeff [Sachs] does and I couldn't do it. Taking transport planes, living on yak meat for days -- no. But I do write faster than anybody. You've got to figure out what you should be doing."

Anyway, getting back to this morning's column -- I'm with Krugman. There are certainly things that would probably make it into a compromise bill that are better than nothing. Resolution authority would be better than nothing, although far from a perfect solution. Systemic risk regulation would be better than nothing -- though perhaps not much better, depending on who is in charge of it. But frankly without the CFPA and without a real solution to banks that are too big to fail, it seems to me we will have avoided solving the biggest problems.

If we want change, someone has to be willing to stand up for it. If you want to win a negotiation, you have to be willing to walk away. If you can't do that, you will get rolled on every issue. The Democrats need to force the Republicans to make a public choice on the CFPA, instead of negotiating against themselves and taking the issue off the table. Voters will be upset if Congress does nothing about the financial system, but the Democrats should have the courage to point out why they couldn't pass anything. Taking a stand on consumer protection should not be that hard a position to take.

Cross-posted from The Baseline Scenario

 
 
 
 
 
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PopeRatzo
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06:15 PM on 03/03/2010
I bet Mr Krugman already has a nice health care plan.

I'm not sure I understand his willingness to fight to the last drop of our blood.
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swift goat pet for truth
The Life of the Land is preserved in Righteousness
09:44 PM on 03/03/2010
Yes, I am sure he has a nice HC plan.

What he does NOT have is a nice financial system.
None of us do.
12:23 PM on 03/03/2010
"If we want change, someone has to be willing to stand up for it. If you want to win a negotiation, you have to be willing to walk away. "

The Republicans have made it clear that they consider walking the best alternative to negotiated agreement (BATNA). In fact, they have made it clear that negotiated agreement is only the last resort. They can do this because the Dems seem to respect it, even if the rest of the rational world doesn't.

Take Republican intransigence as a given. Democrats either have to find a way to make Republicans negotiate in good faith, or they have to find their own BATNA, such as, oh I don't know, reconciliation maybe?
11:27 AM on 03/03/2010
Progressives need to be careful to not make the CFPA THE issue in financial reform. It'd certainly be a good agency but the core of the reform bill needs to be regulating the CDS market, reigning in exotic financial entities, ensuring that there is no "too big to fail" entities, separating investment banks from traditional consumer banks or at the very least requiring them to have enough cash reserves on hand to cover all their bets.

If the final bill includes those core reforms but does not include the CFPA, it's still a good bill.
12:39 PM on 03/03/2010
Yes, the core reforms you propose are essential, but they cease to be major issues the second they are implemented. What then?

We need a CFPA to protect consumers on an ongoing basis, and the CFPA must have enough regulatory muscle to counter the influence money buys.
Bernique
Solar is clean, cheap and plentiful
08:25 PM on 03/03/2010
yes, cam. well said.
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mjc
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11:06 AM on 03/03/2010
Think abandoning the Senate bill would certainly be a step in the right direction. Basically, it is bill to satisfy insurance companies, not to reform any health care system. Think passing ANYTHING just to say we passed a health care bill would encourage more incursions into the present Medcare and Medicaid programs, in the name of reform, cutting programs...and costs.....
11:01 AM on 03/03/2010
Really? No bill is better than a weak bill? I assume that you have health insurance, sir. As an immigrant, are you aware of the history involved in the struggle to get health care available to the entire public in this country? You say that when negotiating in business one must be prepared to walk away. However, this is not business, it is politics. Nothing gets done and that is the plan of the Republicans. The health care bill would disappear for another decade. Walk away? Really? That sounds more like the North Korean way of solving problems.
12:37 PM on 03/02/2010
Until EVERYONE starts talking and blogging and marching for Campaign Reform we are just spinning our wheels discussing anything that might challenge the special interests.

This is just another case of special interests having their way over the best interests of the American people.

The will of the senate is the will of the special interests.

http://www.fairelectionsnow.org/volunteer/petition (FENA)
http://change-congress.org/

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12:25 PM on 03/02/2010
sadly , if we cannot get anything done during a democratic presidency, how will it be when the repugs get back in power again and elect Sarah palin and glenn beck to office...2 empty knuckle heads with diabolical agendas???will we all be wearing burkas and become slaves of all corporations, with no rights, no HC, no protection? Back to the dark ages?
Now they have the supreme court on their side as well....if democrats dont energize quick , goodbye freedom and america as we kow it!
03:36 PM on 03/02/2010
I said good-bye to any remaining worth in the Republican party a dozen years ago.

I said good-bye to the Supreme Court just over 9 years ago.

I said good-by to America as I knew it 8 1/2 years ago.

I witnessed the emergence of raw Imperial America 7 years ago.

I said good-bye to the Democratic party and the American people as I thought I knew them about 6 years ago.

I said good-bye to the Constitution around 4 years ago.

If you['re only now starting to get really worried, you just haven't been paying attention.
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Ipanemagirl
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03:57 PM on 03/02/2010
I didnt want to sound overly pessimistic but I think I agree with you. USA now is good if you are a corporation or very rich....but the average citizen is better off somewhere else ,like in Europe where they still get represented! The poor. well they are just forgotten, disenfranchised and considered parasites, and a waste of money by the rich and powerful.We are going downhill rather fast now!
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05:41 AM on 03/02/2010
H0W HEALTH CARE REFORM SENT FINANCIAL REFORM TO A DEATH PANEL
Does 0bama have the PASSION to CLEAN UP WallStreet

0bama surfed into office on a wave of financial panic, but Americans are still looking for life preservers.

His Priorities:
1. Health Care
2. Green Technology
3. Afghanistan

We still have a broken credit system, failure “of and to” regulate, and misuse of derivatives for theft. Will the tradersters or investors be the FUTURE SOUL of the markets.

0bama doesn't have to be knowledgeable in all things if he surrounds himself with the right people, but Financial Reform was left in Summers&Geithner’s hands who helped built THIS CRISIS!

Summers loyal to WallStreet facilitated unregulated derivatives in 1999. Geithner lost credibility with his hired circle of WallStreet professionals.

These two choices reflect 0bama’s lack of understanding of WallStreet’s sucking of Value from the REAL Main Street Economy.

Why not Brooksley Born, Phil Angelides, or John Allison? However, 0bama did have good sense to pick Volcker to lead his economic advisory board and Volcker's list of reforms.

But NOW the SENATE is ripping the Volcker plan apart to meet the desires of WallStreet.

We have a quagmire economy where WallStreet drains the REAL ECONOMY, NOW fully financed by government+FED. They have Automated Software to steal in nanoseconds (billionth second)!

But Health Care may pass in another month or two!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/health-care-bill-may-come-down-to-house-democrats-2010-02-26#comment3666044
03:40 AM on 03/02/2010
Seems the Democrats have set themselves up to fail from the begining if not by accident then by intention. 20/20 hindsight : The first thing that needed to happen was the ousting of special interests and pandering lobbyists from Washington. That would have cleared the way for the biggest governement reform in history. Taking advatage of the political capital and the huge boost the Dems got from the election; They should have packaged all of major issues together under the heading "Economic Crisis Rescue" ! Shoved the bill through on the majority votes and then debated w/ the idiot Repubs over the fine print. This package would have had to include the financial regulations, single payer health care (vital to the middle class recovery), a much beefier "make home affordable" plan, a much more stringent credit card regulation designed to confront the new ways they have to rip you off; which would have worked excellent w/ a Consumer Protections Agency which should have been established immediately preferably w/ someone like Liz Warren at the head. Couple that backup for the union organizing and you have a real "recovery act " . They have lost all the baby step battles in trying to initiate any of this when it could have been accomplished in a fell swoop under the banner of "National Emergency" !
11:59 PM on 03/02/2010
You are assuming the Democratic and Republican parties would WANT to oust special interests and lobbyists. I do not remotely believe this is the case. They want those interests around for campaign donations, parties, and numerous special perks. Money completely controls the interests of this White House and ALL of Congress. We need more people such as Senator Sanders or Elizabeth Warren who truly have the interests of the citizens of this country first in the White House and Congress.
09:27 AM on 03/03/2010
I never 'assume' anyything. Washington is more symbiotically connected to the lobby interests than a new born pig is to a teat ! There's the rub ; isn't it ? The catch 22. You can't reform anythinng until you bannish the lobbyists : You can't bannish the lobbyist until you motivate congress to reform campaign finance. Neither are particularly in the best interests of the good representatives who would have to write, present and pass a bill cutting themselves off from the teat ! This is as likely to happen as gold dripping from my arse this morning ! Yet we all know something like this has to happen if we are to give the courntry back to the constituents instead of allowing it to be run (down), by the mega conglomerate corporate monied elite. Until this happens we will continue to get nothing or at best these watered down or bastardized bills like health care (insurance) reform that helps no one save the insurance/ pharma /medical industries. The Supreme Court has just made it official : Nothing will change !
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02:33 AM on 03/02/2010
I agree with the point that no bill is better than a bad bill. Once we have a bad bill put in place--they will say, "we got health care done" when they didn't. At least with no bill yet, we can fight for real reform--the real fight will begin when more and more Americans learn about a cleaned up and improved Medicare as the best option.
Much education is still needed.
I don't agree with Krugman--for he's a part of the monied "establishment".
Spread the word on REAL REFORM:
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11:52 PM on 03/01/2010
A few disagreements with Professor Krugman's article:

He writes of economic crisis in past tense and ranks it second all time---Crisis is ongoing and estimates as to its severity are extremely premature from an historical sense...

I would not under-rate this one as of yet...As Professor Krugman himself explains no meaningful or effective reforms have been passed...And all the bubbles are re-inflating.

I also don't agree with this strategy of conceding on financial reform efforts...too much is at stake.
10:28 PM on 03/01/2010
Gee, I thought that headline was about the health insurance "reform" bill.
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02:34 AM on 03/02/2010
It's all related. Health bill--economy bills.
09:33 PM on 03/01/2010
Same thing with the health care bill, the financial reform bill, etc. etc.
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10:26 PM on 03/01/2010
Then let's have no bills-- FIRE the Congress (since they're a waste of time and money) and TAKE OUR TAX MONEY BACK!!!!
08:08 PM on 03/01/2010
"I know what Jeff [Sachs] does and I couldn't do it. Taking transport planes, living on yak meat for days -- no. But I do write faster than anybody. You've got to figure out what you should be doing."

This is lifted verbatim from last week's New Yorker profile - why no attribution?
01:21 PM on 03/02/2010
In Larissa MacFarquhar's recent profile of him in The New Yorker, discussing health care, he said, "There's a trap I've seen some people fall into -- you let your vision of what should be get completely taken over by what appears possible right now -- and that's something I'm trying to avoid."

Uhhh...what?
11:43 PM on 03/02/2010
Instead of compromising just to get something passed, it is better to maintain the "vision" of what it should be. All of the compromises in the end may just be worse than if you held out for real reform.
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alan2a
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07:09 PM on 03/01/2010
This guy has been one of my heroes. But the hypocrisy of this position is stunning. It is according to him better to pass a crap, health insurance industry giveaway bill than no bill but it is better to not pass a crap economic reform/regulatory bill than pass it. How's this any different logically than the HCR abomination?
12:05 AM on 03/03/2010
Insurance for 30M people that don't now have it?