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Jane Smiley

Posted: July 10, 2008 10:57 AM

American Psycho


There was an article in the May 28th New Yorker by George Packer called "The Fall of Conservatism," and I'm sorry to say that I didn't read it very carefully until this week's New Yorker arrived with three letters to the editor about it. This time, I read all the way to the end, and came upon the following paragraph concerning Martin County, Kentucky:

"John Preston, who is the county's circuit-court judge and also its amateur historian, Harvard-educated, with a flag pin on his lapel, said, "Obama is considered an elitist." He added, "There's a racial component, obviously, to it. Thousands of people won't publicly say it, but they won't vote for a black man--on both sides, Democrat and Republican. It won't show up in the polls, because they won't admit it. The elephant's in the room, but nobody will say it. Sad to say it, but it's true." Later, I spoke with half a dozen men eating lunch at the Pigeon Roost Dairy Bar outside town, and none of them had any trouble saying it. They announced their refusal to vote for a black man, without hesitation or apology."

After I read this, I mused for a while on this fact of American politics that is apparently accepted without question or demur: there are people in the US who, no matter what, would not consider voting for a man with a black father and a white mother.

These people would rather that 4700 more American soldiers were killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and 32,000 more wounded than cast a vote for a man of mixed race.

These people would rather that 90,000 more Iraqis die and hundreds of thousands more be wounded and displaced than cast a vote for a man of mixed race.

These people would rather that tens or hundreds of thousands of Iranian civilians be killed or wounded than cast a vote for a man of mixed race.

These people would rather that the economy continue to disintegrate under the management of the Republican incompetents than vote for a man of mixed race.

These people are willing to give up many more years of preparation for climate change, and thereby put the world at greater and greater risk, rather than vote for a man of mixed race.

These people would rather that the upper 1% of Americans be enabled to control more and more American assets and income than vote for a man of mixed race.

These people would rather that the world's respect for and friendship toward the US continue its steep decline than vote for a man of mixed race.

I know it is considered unacceptable for persons such as myself, unrepentant howling liberals, never repentant know-it-all liberals, to cast aspersions on such beliefs because, God forbid, those who would kill or be killed rather than vote for a man of mixed race are entitled to their opinion, and they resent being disparaged. We have to respect them, we are told, even though we were right about the Bush administration, right about the Iraq War, right about the criminality of unregulated markets, right about global warming, and right about the hypocrisy and greed of every Republican you can name, and quite a few Quisling Democrats. We are told to keep our mouths shut, because we don't know what we are talking about.

Okay, so I won't attack the rights of these people. However, let's look at it this way. Four years ago, gay marriage was thought to be the issue that would put the cherry on the Republican sundae. The more gay people came out, spoke up, claimed their rights, and acted like perfectly equal citizens, it was said, the more the issue would inflame the Republican base. You could practically hear Karl Rove cracking his simian knuckles in delight at the prospect.

But hey. Where's that issue now? Not even on the horizon. Old people cling to homophobia, young people not so much. Same with racism. I don't mind if some guy my age in Kentucky puts the lives and the livings of his children and grandchildren on the line because he would never vote for a man of mixed race. But I look forward to the day when his grandchildren look him in the eye and say, "Gee, Grandpa. Can't afford to keep you anymore. Maybe Grover Norquist will take over your care."

There was an article in the May 28th New Yorker by George Packer called "The Fall of Conservatism," and I'm sorry to say that I didn't read it very carefully until this week's New Yorker arrived w...
There was an article in the May 28th New Yorker by George Packer called "The Fall of Conservatism," and I'm sorry to say that I didn't read it very carefully until this week's New Yorker arrived w...
 
 
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04:17 PM on 07/13/2008
People need somebody who looks like them and talks like them and is in the same economic boat as them to represent them. Its called representative government, and its what the founding fathers intended for us. Then partisan redistricting, disproportional representation and pricey Scientific Misleading came along.

Intelellectuals can think themselves past race and can think their way into the future, and assume other people make decisions based on reason. Turns out most people run on instinct, pride, fear and heart. The intellectual arguments blow right by.

Human beings are the whole game. We don't get to criticize human nature, but we need governments that work with it and for it.
12:02 PM on 07/13/2008
Great column. Yes, there are a number of complicated strains running through the character of those who populate Appalachia. And there is also racism, which is not so complicated. I'll be glad when its day has finally passed.
02:34 PM on 07/11/2008
"Old people cling to homophobia, young people not so much.

Same with racism. I don't mind if some guy my age in Kentucky puts the lives and the livings of his children and grandchildren on the line because he would never vote for a man of mixed race.

But I look forward to the day when his grandchildren look him in the eye and say, "Gee, Grandpa. Can't afford to keep you anymore. Maybe Grover Norquist will take over your care.""

Remember that old chestnut constantly thrown out to people opposing the now infamously wrong, wrong, wrong Viet Nam War?

'AMERICA - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT'.

Well, I would suggest all the people sipping the koolaide and soooo unhappy with this country (that 25% base) should do JUST that.

You don't like it? Go find somewhere better.
You don't want to work with US? Go find somewhere better.
You don't want to be a part of the American Society? Go find something better.

WE are AMERICA - a UNITED of States. You don't want to be united? Go find something better.
03:43 PM on 07/13/2008
I would suggest that you separate what our government has chosen to do over the years to bring our country to this sorry state that she enumerates (read it again), separate that from this beautiful country and its people. She's "howling about" and "unrepentent" about our GOVERNMENT and it's downward spiral since Eisenhower because of its decisions, not the country or the people. When will you "Love it or leave it" folks ever get it straight? Our government is no longer by the people, of the people or for the people and if you can't see that, and others who see it like you do, we truly are doomed.
03:49 PM on 07/13/2008
What is it about blacks that scares you so? That's what it comes down to, isn't it?
10:40 AM on 07/11/2008
Don't put it past the racists to nudge the election to the Regressives. Add in a purported imminent threat from Iran and you have a recipe for the "paternal party" to surprise and depress "thinking" people with a come-from-behind victory. If so, America will show it's true colors again......and it will not be pretty!
08:44 AM on 07/11/2008
Must you insult monkeys by comparing them to Karl Rove? Certainly they deserve better.
01:41 AM on 07/11/2008
Ms. Smiley, your commentary is positively roaring with righteousness, in the best sense of the word. It is a rallying cry, the voice out of the wilderness calling for people to get it together. These people who won't vote for a Black man, it's as if they have some kind of neurosis. They're positively pathological, to the point of being ready to suffer and perhaps die. What can you say to them? Maybe some apropos line from the Bible, and even then they probably couldn't stomach it. Perhaps only an epiphany or some sort of revelation would open their eyes and remove the blinders. What a horrible thing, the arrogance of dogma.
12:02 AM on 07/11/2008
At dinner, a friend of mine who supported Hillary in the primary, got so angry when the conversation turned to politics. (I support Obama). But whenever I'm around this woman, I have to walk on eggshells because she doesn't respect anyone elses ideas but her own. I've read descriptions in fiction of someone's lip curling in rabid rage, but I'd never seen it before in real life. That night, I did. A horrible cruelty spread over her features and I started to feel sick to my stomach. She said she was either going to stay home or vote for McCain. She said Obama was the "whitest black man she'd ever seen" and "if it wasn't for Oprah, he wouldn't have gotten where he got." It was racism, I'm sure, but it was also ego rage that her candidate hadn't won. It was such a declaration of selfishness and shallowness and stupidity that I felt I didn't even know my friend anymore. She needed to win more than she cared about other people, war, the constitution. . .anything! She ended up leaving the table in a rude huff, throwing money down and running out the door. This was not kentucky, it was NYC. Now she is no longer a friend.
11:36 AM on 07/11/2008
No loss there. All you can do with the ignorant and the arrogant is shun them.
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11:50 PM on 07/10/2008
Ms. Smiley, you know... there's nothing uniquely American about ignorance, racism, or whatnot. In the papers today, I read that Saudi women are still forbidden from driving. Needless to say, as a father of two girls I was saddened, and then pressed to wonder about the level of ignorance and arrogance that people still harbor out of irrational fear.

All over the world, and not just in America..., people will line up to vote against their own interest. Remember, Ferdinand Marcos had die-hard supporters, just like Robert Mugabe, Vladmir Putin, .... and many other miscreants around the world masquerading as leaders. I'll assure you that there's somebody about to lose his/her home, job, and penniless, who still believes George W Bush is the American messiah.

Why should one be shocked that some whites would not want to vote for a black/colored person for president of the United States? There are still white landlords that will not rent to black tenants, white employers that will not employ blacks, whites that will not.....(fill in the space) for/to/with blacks.
07:50 AM on 07/13/2008
I can't argue with a word you wrote. But I hope to live to see the day when we will be shocked at widespread mind-numbing stupidity. If George W has done us any service, perhaps it will be the recognition of the danger of giving power to idiots.
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10:58 PM on 07/10/2008
Let's not forget that such people prevented Truman's single-payer health care proposal from passing because they were worried that it might integrate the southern hospitals.

Racism is one of the fundamental ills of the U.S. Lots of current problems can be traced to the deeply ingrained belief that we're not all in it together -- we should only take care of the "right sort"of people.

This is the cost of racism.
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10:16 PM on 07/10/2008
patriot act

pakistan

military commissions act

fisa

black white or purple - who cares.

does liberal mean caring about crap that doesn't amount to sh*t? we have a duopoly, period. same bosses, different colored koolaide. no racist, or liberal for that matter, will make any significant difference with their vote. its a ruse. until we the people take our branches of government back, it is a hopeless re-run.

i suppose you are for eliminating the 4th ammendment?

but you keep on cheering jane!
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09:59 PM on 07/10/2008
This must really be a slow news day/week because this certainly is NOT news. Blacks have been here almost as long as there has been an America. The conditions of black enslavement dictated that they be denied education, marriage, parenting, legal protection, economic compensation, owership of property..etc. As slavery was overturned racism became systemic and codified within every major institution. Added to this oppression was Jim Crow laws to prevent sympathic whites from going against the system. When blacks began fighting for civil rights most white people claimed they were "shocked" to learn that blacks did not have civil rights. Here we are forty years after civil rights passes and guess what...white people are once again "shocked" to learn that black people are still systemically rejected and discriminated against no matter their education or qualifications. Did you guys really think we were just making it all up?
12:16 AM on 07/11/2008
It's not news in terms of it still happening. But it is news in terms of continuing the conversation, which is the only way to come to a genuine, long-lasting resolution.

I've said in multiple posts here that attrition will eventually tear down the attitudinal wall of racism in this nation. Jane agrees: "Old people cling to homophobia, young people not so much. Same with racism." This, coupled (pun intended) with increasing numbers of bi- and multi-racial citizens, will in 2 to 3 generations render this discussion amusing and moot.
12:24 PM on 07/11/2008
Yeah, I've often said that people don't change, they just die off.

My faith in intermarriage and the birth of more mixed-race people was shattered by Bosnia. Here was a society where Muslims and Christians (Serbs) intermarried, lived and worked together, and yet the Serbs were able to revive the old fears and hatreds and tear the society apart. Nationalist fantasies were more important to many people than their real lives.

On the other hand, it's hard to imagine Italian-Americans and Anglo-Americans (say) turning on one another. The various European groups have mingled and interbred so long here that everyone, it seems, is 1/16th this and 3/16ths that, way too mixed to identify with only one descent. Those of us from Europe are all just "Anglos" now. So maybe given time, race will fade into insignificance. I just wouldn't put my money on it happening any time soon. 2-3 generations is optimistic, I fear.
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09:46 PM on 07/10/2008
This is what I said to my 81 years old father in law, who is very "unconfortable" about the idea of voting for a man of color: "you may not live long enough with the results of this election, but I promise you now that I'll tell your great grandchildren what you did ... so think twice before you cast the vote. Do you realy hate this country and your greatgrandchildren future so much that you'll vote for McBush". I think I hit the nail by head.
09:09 PM on 07/10/2008
Pure gold!

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08:59 PM on 07/10/2008
I would not have believed this if it had not happened to my spouse:

in a conversation with a college graduate, who is also a very successful engineer, my spouse was told, "You aren't going to vote for Obama, are you? You know, it's been all over the news, he's a terrorist and he was born in Africa."

Well, what can you say to that?
07:44 PM on 07/10/2008
good topic for discussion. i suppose i should get my bona fides out there before commenting on this because there is always someone having a need/agenda pointing out base assumptions concerning contrarian. i am neither dem or repug, lib nor con. all considered, i celebrate and welcome the obama candidacy, just as much as i do any female having an equally valid shot at becoming president.

but as a former life-long democrat, i eventually took more than a passing note that the party leaders, and the party in general, had shifted from the concerns related to blue-collar workers and the underserved throughout our country. to me, the political machinery that is the democratic party is virtually no different then that of the republicans, evidenced by the fact that our country, and our foreign policy, is in shambles.

politically, i moved from "democrat vs. republican" to "us against them" . this decision had nothing to do with race, gender or any social orientation/issue used as wedges in the national debate. rather, my decision was a virulent, years long struggle to come to grips with what i viewed as our overwhelming political/social/economic failures. i came to terms with my belief, that there may never come a person or group who will genuinely address what i see as our ills. anyway, neither party, nor independent, has a deep, profound, life affirming agenda or intention to serve. no to them all, vote "none of the above".
08:03 AM on 07/13/2008
I guess you didn't notice that for 28 of the last 40 years we have had Republican Presidents. I find it hard to conclude that all of our problems may be attributed equally to Democrats and Republicans. This is particularly true of our national debt. Clinton brought it down, but Reagan and Bush II each tripled it during their terms.

As for "none of the above," are you really advocating anarchy? I do not know your age, but I think it is time to stop holding your breath and try growing up a bit.