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CBO's Long-Term Budget Outlook: What It's Telling Us

Posted: 06/06/2012 4:57 pm

While chatting with a colleague today about the new CBO long-term budget outlook, we agreed there wasn't much new there, but then he said something that stuck with me:

"Of course, it shows that we can afford the entitlements."

To hear everyone from the Washington Post editorial page to Bowles/Simpson to all the Republicans and many of the Democrats, there's an entitlement crunch, crisis, death spiral, or whatever... waiting for us out there in the future if we fail to muster the steely-eyed courage to face it. And "face it" invariably means cutting benefits, privatizing, voucherizing, raising the retirement age, means testing... basically, fixing them by breaking them.

This morning's Washington Post has a case in point: "New estimates the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) released Tuesday underscore that Medicare must change, a lot." A few lines in: "...a death spiral of ever-higher interest payments."

Well, look at this chart, one I'm sure will be showing up all over the place. It shows the debt as a share of GDP projected well into the future under two different scenarios. Under the explosive scenario -- the one on which all the scolds will focus -- debt swamps the economy, reaching 200% by 2037.

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But look at the other line. Under that scenario, which in fact happens to be current law (meaning all the Bush tax cuts expire, for example), debt stabilizes as a share of the economy in a few years and then starts down a slow glide path. And Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security as we know them today are all in that bottom line.

Under that scenario taxes go up and spending is restrained compared to the alternative baseline. Some of the assumptions -- like we allow Medicare payments to doctors to fall sharply or all the tax cuts permanently expire next January -- are wholly unrealistic. But there are unrealistic assumptions under the other scenario too (the federal gov't is not going to be spending 36% of GDP by 2037 (the historical average is about 21%)).

But generally speaking, and with some tweaks, there's no reason why something like that bottom line's baseline couldn't prevail. The Bush tax cuts would all have to eventually sunset, and we'd need to continue-and ramp up-what looks like early progress on slowing the growth of health care spending.

But aside from dysfunctional politics feeding a largely misleading public debate, we could do this. If we, as a nation, decide that we want to achieve fiscal sustainability and preserve the entitlement programs, along with government's other critical functions, it is well within our means to do so.

So sayeth the CBO.

(H/t: JH)

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 

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01:37 PM on 06/08/2012
Here's one idea for breaking the gridlock in Washington: Everybody join the republican party. All candidates must therefore play to the center.
10:35 AM on 06/07/2012
I remember George saying when the deficit was heading down from the Clinton tax increase, thats your money and deficits don't matter ( maybe it was cheney that said deficits don't matter. If we had not put in the Bush tax cuts or started to wars that are still not funded we would be looking at a budget that would have had a deficit close to zero.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
03:21 PM on 06/07/2012
Not true. Not even close.
10:22 PM on 06/08/2012
Dick Cheney on Budget & Economy
Vice President of the United States; Former Republican Representative (WY)

Cheney to Treasury: "Deficits don't matter"
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill was told "deficits don't matter" when he warned of a looming fiscal crisis.
O'Neill, fired in a shakeup of Bush's economic team in December 2002, raised objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a string of accounting scandals because of opposition from "the corporate crowd," a key constituency.

O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.

The vice president's office had no immediate comment, but John Snow, who replaced O'Neill, insisted that deficits "do matter" to the administration.

Source: [X-ref O'Neill] Adam Entous, Reuters, on AOL News Jan 11, 2004
10:10 AM on 06/07/2012
The "extended base line" scenaro that Jared is crowing about assumes that ALL of the Bush/Obama tax cuts expire...that means big increases on people making under 250k a year....are we all OK with that? It also means that the perpetual AMT "fixes" suddenly don't get fixed this year either...again, a big increase in middle class taxes....Jared KNOWS this and yet can go out and say there's NO problems....the "alternate" path, is the one the CBO thinks is MOST likely...Jared also knows that.
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essbird
IOKIYANO
12:01 PM on 06/07/2012
Did you read it? From the article, in direct contradiction to your summary of his position:

"Under that scenario taxes go up and spending is restrained compared to the alternative baseline. Some of the assumptions -- like we allow Medicare payments to doctors to fall sharply or all the tax cuts permanently expire next January -- are wholly unrealistic. But there are unrealistic assumptions under the other scenario too (the federal gov't is not going to be spending 36% of GDP by 2037 (the historical average is about 21%)).

"But generally speaking, and with some tweaks, there's no reason why something like that bottom line's baseline couldn't prevail. The Bush tax cuts would all have to eventually sunset, and we'd need to continue-and ramp up-what looks like early progress on slowing the growth of health care spending."
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mbo2
02:43 PM on 06/07/2012
blah blah blah, once again the citizenry is being led by the nose to believe Bush Tax Cuts means tax cuts for the wealthy

the Bush Tax Cuts were equal percentage rate cuts, across all tax brackets

and letting the cuts expire ONLY on those making over $250,000/yr., like Obama's hollywood friends 1) won't happen and 2) would do nothing to change the trajectory of the top line in that graph
bullthull
Enemy of all that is stupid
10:07 AM on 06/07/2012
To be clear - he is really saying that when the tax cuts expire the middle class will face a huge tax hike
satyrday
If my micro-bio is way too long, will it be trunca
09:30 AM on 06/07/2012
So continuing the tax cuts, is really just a repub ploy to continue the crisis.
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drkazmd65
Mom Taught me - Question Everything - Thanks Mom!
04:47 PM on 06/07/2012
An oversimplification,... but pretty much so.
09:23 AM on 06/07/2012
Don't forget the biggest scam of 2004.
When Congress passed the repatriation tax holiday in 2004, the legislation specified that the funds should be earmarked for activities like hiring workers or conducting research and prohibited using the money for executive compensation or buying back stock. Companies that brought back profits earned abroad saw them taxed at roughly 5%, instead of the top 35% corporate tax rate.

Meanwhile, the top 15 repatriating companies also accelerated their spending on stock buybacks and executive compensation after the tax break. The top five executives at those 15 companies saw their compensation rise 27% from 2004 to 2005 and then another 30% between 2005 to 2006.
The 15 companies that repatriated the most after the 2004 tax break on the return of overseas profits later cut a net 20,931 jobs between 2004 and 2007 and slightly decreased the pace of their spending on research and development, found the report surveying 19 companies' activity.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
08:35 AM on 06/07/2012
For what it is worth i would like to see the president throw the Simpson Bowles  budget at the Republicans and watch them scramble because every American knows they would reject it, even after the Republicans turned down that gang of six budget a few years back, they still like to bring up the fact that the President never put forth a budget proposal?
08:06 AM on 06/07/2012
Note that our current defense budget exceeds budgets of the next top 14 nations COMBINED. Don't tell me we can't afford to cut the defense budget by at least 50%, especially now that the cold war is over and we no longer have the threat of a heavily armed Soviet Union. Come on people. Let's get real. All this unnecessary defense spending is what's really killing us. Look at how Germany is managing its economy; not having a world empire to maintain, as well as to feed a huge military/industrial/political complex, sure makes a BIG difference.
07:58 AM on 06/07/2012
One thing that is forgotten in all of this discussion is that although the "baby boomers" are now a big burden on the social safety net programs, that is not going to continue forever. There are peaks and valleys in the demographics of our national population. At some time in the future, we may find ourselves in a situation where there will be a surplus of funds for such programs. So, what now looks like an unsustainable situation may actually be quite sustainable in time.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
03:23 PM on 06/07/2012
If we last that long.
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Danlar
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04:35 AM on 06/07/2012
Sens. -John Kyle, John McCain and Lindsey Graham....say we shouldn't make any cuts to the military......
Gen. Ike Eisenhower is Rolling in his grave..."Beware of the military industrial complex" well I guess todays GOP is NOT the party of him anymore or of Lincoln (they went with Strom Thurmond) or of Teddy Roosevelt the progressive environmentalist all would be thrown out of todays GOP
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aacme
My micro-bio is on a strict need-to-know basis.
03:54 AM on 06/07/2012
The debt crisis was manufactured. It was called Starve the Beast, a plan to run up the debt to bring about a national clamor to "shrink the government down to where we can drown it in the bathtub", to quote one of the more eloquent of the GOP planners. The result is the situation in 2012, a bloated aristocracy,sinking middle class, and enormous national debt. The gopers would have us believe entitlement spending is to blame, but they did on purpose to destroy the government.
Once again:
Through the 1984 election, the old guard earnestly tried to control the deficit, rolling back about 40 percent of the original Reagan tax cuts. But when, in the following years, the Federal Reserve chairman, Paul Volcker, finally crushed inflation, enabling a solid economic rebound, the new tax-cutters not only claimed victory for their supply-side strategy but hooked Republicans for good on the delusion that the economy will outgrow the deficit if plied with enough tax cuts.
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It is not surprising, then, that during the last bubble (from 2002 to 2006) the top 1 percent of Americans — paid mainly from the Wall Street casino — received two-thirds of the gain in national income, while the bottom 90 percent — mainly dependent on Main Street’s shrinking economy — got only 12 percent. This growing wealth gap is not the market’s fault. It’s the decaying fruit of bad economic policy.
David Stockman – Reagan OMB director
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clearasmud
Obama Is Nothing More Than A Moderate Republican
07:56 AM on 06/07/2012
Fanned
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drkazmd65
Mom Taught me - Question Everything - Thanks Mom!
04:50 PM on 06/07/2012
I like Stockman,... he's what Republicans used to be before they got dumb, all bought off all of the time, and cared about America in a general sense.
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
03:29 AM on 06/07/2012
It is a matter of priorities. It can be accomplished. The obstacle is that when it involves safety net programs such as Medicare and TANF, the republican party has always been looking for ways and reasons to cut or eliminate them, particularly when they do not occupy the WH. (Recall that GW increased eligibility for food stamps and passed the Medicare prescription drug benefit, but paid for neither. Reagan signed legislation to mandate that emergency rooms turn no person away, and now republicans complain about freeloaders). But again, it is a matter of priorities, of what the nation decides is important and the best way to accomplish those ends. There is more than one possible solution, regardless of what many on the right would have the people believe.
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grappler1987
Heaven is a gift, not a reward
02:16 AM on 06/07/2012
"Revenues would keep rising relative to GDP thereafter, largely because increases in taxpayers’ real income would push more income into higher tax brackets and because more taxpayers would become subject to the AMT."

The Extended Baseline Scenario assumes large tax increases even on the middle class.
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posie Di Sesa
05:19 AM on 06/07/2012
most thinking people are aware that once the economy is stabilized, middle class taxes will, and should, go up.

so, what's your point?
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keramos
Guns don't kill, bullets do. Tax the bullets
09:06 AM on 06/07/2012
That there might be a middle class and they might live a decent life and just might have some access to reasonably priced quality healthcare.  And that would make them 'elites.'  And we all know about elites . .
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grappler1987
Heaven is a gift, not a reward
10:42 AM on 06/07/2012
Most thinking people? Sounds made up.

AMT will be rough on the middle class.
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phoenixdoglover
My dog loves my progressive treats agenda
01:39 AM on 06/07/2012
The CBO does this routinely. They invent an "alternative" scenario, generate projections, publish a graph, and everybody goes bonkers.  Then when you actually read the assumptions behind the scenario, you think, "Well, that is ridiculous."
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keramos
Guns don't kill, bullets do. Tax the bullets
09:07 AM on 06/07/2012
You really don't know anything about the CBO at all and really shouldn't even try to pretend that you do.  The 'assumptions' are all on your part.  And you know what happens when you assume.  The 'u' part is especially applicative to you.
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phoenixdoglover
My dog loves my progressive treats agenda
09:34 AM on 06/07/2012
Well, that's funny. I have read the last 3 CBO reports that I heard about in the past couple of months. I would guess most people here have never read one.
wsdave
Abusive or Insulting? I won't be responding.
03:25 PM on 06/07/2012
They don't actualy "invent" the scenarios: They are instructed to create them, based on information and assumptions given to them by politicians.