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Why the Economic 'Uncertainty' Line Is Shovel-Ready Nonsense

Posted: 09/28/11 09:59 AM ET

Larry Mishel, president of the Economic Policy Institute, has an extremely useful piece up collecting all the reasons -- with evidence -- why the conservatives' "uncertainty" talking point is shovel-ready nonsense.

First, "uncertainty" in this context refers to the Republicans argument that it's government and central bank actions -- taxes, regulation, fiscal/monetary policy, health care/financial regulation reforms -- that are holding back the economy, not any of that ill-begotten Keynesian stuff, like lack of customers, orders, investors.

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So how might you test for something like that?

Well, what about actual investment?

Investment in the current recovery has increased more than in it had at the same time period in the prior two recoveries and roughly the same as it did during the 1980s recovery [see figure]. In other words, this recovery is far more investment-led than the recovery under the pro-deregulation George W. Bush administration.

Private sector jobs, you ask?

...private sector job growth in this recovery looks much like job growth in recent recoveries, suggesting that businesses are not reacting to a new threat of potential regulations and taxes (the difference with this recovery is actually the loss of public sector jobs.

And then, of course, there's what the business folks, as opposed to their DC reps, actually say about what's bugging them:

...the regular National Federation of Independent Business (NFIB) surveys of small businesses found that the most common answer to the question, "what is the single most important problem your business faces?" was "poor sales." And while a number of businesses also cited regulation, the numbers were not substantially higher than under Presidents George W. Bush or Ronald Reagan and were lower than under Presidents Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush.

None of this is to say "uncertainty" is not a problem. But while conservative politicians are busy jamming their perennial tax cut/deregulate agenda into the current context, the thing that businesses are truly uncertain about is when they're going to start seeing some customers again.

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 
 
 
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07:58 PM on 09/29/2011
True. It's the certainty of how screwed up everything is that is holding them back
06:10 PM on 09/29/2011
I totally agree with the message. As a conservative, I find it depressing hearing this nonsense coming from the right, since it's a distraction from the real root causes for unemployment: labor arbitrage, whether through "free trade" or importing foreign labor. It's no accident, the message is coming from donors from Wall Street and the multinationals. Of course Obama gets his marching orders from the same people, and also from the "victim" wing of the part.
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AlanBannacheck
President of the Deep Thoughts Association (DTA)
05:33 PM on 09/29/2011
Consumers can't cosume anymore because either they are jobless or living paycheck to paycheck. Besides, maybe it's time for materialism to be put to rest. It hasn't given Americans much to be happy about.
Butquestioning
Searching for truth
02:57 PM on 09/29/2011
It seems the "uncertainty" is more from the consumers than business. When you look at the continued assault on unions, wages, job uncertainty, Social Security, and Medicare, it makes the average person concerned that their jobs mey be lost, their wages and benefits cut and that they will need to plan more for their future...and they tighten their spending and that keeps demand low and unemployment high. This is particularly true with the public sector workers, with more than 600,000 jobs lost.

It's hard to have confidence when the constant talk from the Republican House is about cutting spending - cutting social programs - the social safety net that the average people depend on. This is not about wasteful spending but things that most of us have been contributing to for decades.
02:09 PM on 09/29/2011
The Bush tax cut promised jobs. they lied ! The Bush tax cuts extension signed by Obama under duress promised jobs. They lied ! The GOP Congressional leadership proclaimed themselves as job creators ! They lied ! The only true remaining job creators are the small business people and they are being lied to by the hierarchy of the GOP/Tea-Party and the super elite Repugs. at the top. They are mere lackeys of their respective Chambers of Commerce. They pay most of the bills and do the dirty work to support these millionaires. Who's to buy your goods an services if you continue to assist your "bosses" in fleecing the middle class. Who will buy your widgets ? And those of you who make $140,000/ year or less; your next. Be afraid. Be very afraid !
01:53 PM on 09/29/2011
ObamaCare uncertainty = no investment, no hiring. Pretty simple and pretty sad.
Playtime is over - let's get back to work.
06:12 PM on 09/29/2011
Do you actually believe this? Couldn't be our trade deficit our the financial crisis could it? Get real, as if our employment woes just started in the last year, you have a pretty short memory.
11:09 AM on 09/29/2011
Uncertainty is the reason no one is hiring. When you have Obama attacking businesses and the banks. You can all say the banks are sitting on all this money and not making loans but the facts are, they are making loans, just not to unqualified buyers & truly the amount of people applying for those loans have gone down. Go talk to you own bank and ask them how many loan applications come in on any given day. You might be surprised. As long as the leader of the free world keeps using his rhetoric to try and make himself seem like a normal guy who cares, nothing will change. Don't listen to what he says, watch what he does. It's always a contradiction and always against you.
Butquestioning
Searching for truth
03:08 PM on 09/29/2011
Record corporate profits and you say Obama is hurting them? What kind of profits do you think it takes to generate jobs? The answer is that jobs are not created by earnings or deregulation, but by demand and with the attacks on the working class - the talk of ending Medicare, Social Security, continued talk of more job losses as the public sector is seeing less funding - it is this that is causing the problems. Certainly not uncertainty in business.

I work in the financial industry and business loan requests are very low. The businesses have little reason to expand their operations when there is no demand, despite near record low interest rates. Instead, the big banks are investing in commodities and driving up prices that are making them more income than loans would do.
08:00 PM on 09/29/2011
They are record profits because they are hiring. Profit is the goal, as it must be.
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Darrin Brown
What the hell is a micro bio?
10:35 AM on 09/29/2011
Common sense...
10:32 AM on 09/29/2011
I agree with your general point that if demand were strong uncertainty wouldn't matter. However, to ignore policy, regulatory and taxes uncertainty is not correct. The current administration has exacerbated the overall economic problem through by advocating strongly for future tax increases, incoherent regulatory policies and advocating for pro-union policies. As an investor/business operator, we have 30+ companies with 10,000's of employees. Uncertainty matters. The administration has targeted regulatory litigation in our healthcare businesses. We've been told by the administration that they will suing (read: making money) on employee full/part-time classification issues. The health law includes significant new taxes (4.7% new investment tax) and has an indeterminate effect on benefit costs. There is considerable angst over future proposed tax legislation. The lending environment (indirectly a government issue) is highly skewed to large company lending and the cost of capital is very high for medium sizes businesses and nearly impossible to get for smaller business. On our larger businesses we can borrow at 3%, our medium (>$100M in sales) businesses, we can borrow at 8-10% rates and small business, forget about it.

Finally, we have 100's of job openings and our biggest issue is finding qualified applicants. There is a dearth of high skilled (BS+ engineering, real Computer Science, etc) technical workers, qualified sales people, high skilled executives and finance people.

These issues obviously are less than 1/2 the problem, demand being the majority of the issue but they should not be discounted.
02:22 PM on 09/29/2011
Sorry, It sounds to me like you worked PR for the oil industry when they peddled the "excuse of the month" baloney, when they wanted to jack up the cost of oil. Lets see; they are about to reuse the lack of refinery capacity one as they haven't used it in two years. Oh I supposed they will dust off a couple of other old excuses for reuse as back ups. Maybe there are some old ENRON ideas they can modify. It is all propaganda. On the health care; simple; a single payer system would save so much money it would just about offset you guesstimates.
Butquestioning
Searching for truth
03:16 PM on 09/29/2011
While my business is smaller - with only about 500 employees, I've been in business for more than 40 years and never have I hired because of earnings or regulations. I hire to handle increased demand for my products and services. If demand goes up, I hire to give my business a better chance to make more profits. Why would I not do that? Would it be better to pay a little more in taxes if my profits go up or to avoid the taxes, make less profits? The answer is simple...I will try to make more sales to increase my earnings.

Does taxes and regulations play a role in my bottom line, sometime positively and sometimes negatively. but if I waited for things to be always be in my favor, I would have been out of business long ago. As I see it, the corporations have created a negative environment for the consumer and that is driving demand down. I can deal with regs but not the lack of customers.
06:48 PM on 09/29/2011
As I stated, demand is the majority of a business driver. However, capital is deployed as a function of risk management and expenses are layered on in a similar way. You can wait for demand to hit capacity or you invest prospectively in anticipation of demand. In the current climate, we are waiting in many cases.

Unfortunately, the consumer problem is not about corporations. It's about a lending environment that was promoted by Congress starting in the Clinton time and continuing through Bush. Lending was loose, the ability to lever up people's single biggest asset, houses led to a huge consumer driven expansion. It has been further exacerbated by borrowing from 401K's. Approximately 1/3 of 401K's have been borrowed against. Finally, we loaded up on CC debt.

Today, the consumer is tapped. There are approaches to putting more money in consumer pockets including lower rates on mortgages. But we do not have the asset base or consuming capacity to easily drive up demand.

Among other things, we need to drive exports. Unfortunately, a worldwide continuing crisis is conspiring to keep the $ high.
09:59 AM on 09/29/2011
In the game of life, businesses and consumers are the players, competing with each other in the buying and selling arena. Government is the referee.

Any time you step into the arena, there is uncertainty. Will the other side out compete me? Are they better at buying and selling than I am?

You address this type of uncertainty by continually striving to make sure you are the best.

There is another kind of uncertainty. Will the ref be fair? Will he enforce the rules? Will he change them in the middle of the game? Has the other side paid him to throw the game in their favor? Is he biased in their favor?

How do you deal with such uncertainty? You can’t overcome it by being the best. That does not matter. Your best option is to either stop playing the game or to put your time and effort into making sure the ref is in your pocket instead of theirs.

The first type of uncertainty is part of the game, and every successful business has become good at mastering it.

The second kind of uncertainty destroys the game.

It is this second kind of uncertainty we need to get under control. Democrats and Republicans can scream and point at each other all they want about who is at fault, but they are both guilty.

We need a reliable referee (and we don’t currently have one), so we can get back to the game of life.
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Aikaterina
A Greek-American living in California
09:51 AM on 09/29/2011
"It's the economy, Stupid!" So said the campaign for Bill Clinton in 1991, and it's true today.

With either low-paying (minimum-wage) or no jobs, who can afford to buy anything? Many people are struggling to buy food and pay the rent alone. There's no money left for them after basic necessities, particularly with soaring health care and fuel costs, to buy consumer goods.

Even those with decent wages and benefits are 1 paycheck from disaster, and many are either saving what they can, and/or paying down their debts (student loans, credit-card balances, etc.) to get some relief.

Corporations sending plants off-shore to maximize profits, while politicians claims that lower taxes and less regulation are good for the economy are clueless. We've had plenty of both during the past decade, and the results were what we have today:
Deregulated financial institutions engaging in predatory, illegal, reckless practices that collapsed the market, their own firms, and put the global economy into a tailspin.
Mass exodus of manufacturing jobs, technology and investments in China, India (and Third-World countries) didn't help create a middle class in those areas, and have decimated the middle-working class in the US. More people live in poverty than at any point in modern US history.
Tax-cutting didn't create jobs during Reagan's, Bush Sr's., nor "W's" tenures.
More of the same won't create jobs, either. Fools can't learn from past mistakes. They just repeat them, expecting a different outcome.
02:34 PM on 09/29/2011
A well-thought out post. Please repeat as necessary. Nice to know we still have Greek thinkers all over the world ! Sadly, many folks you describe above cannot see the forest because of the trees! Thank You ! G.
Butquestioning
Searching for truth
03:25 PM on 09/29/2011
Excellent comment...F&F
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alafonse
It's definitely a crap-shoot.
08:22 AM on 09/29/2011
The new jobs market is mostly lower-paying jobs. This is just what the corporations were slobbering for. So now they got their cheap labor and guess what? People can't and won't buy as much. The economy of the poor has arrived and it's trickling up to the businesses. It's their karma. Take THAT, you fools—WHAM!
shessomoney
Liberal Elite-Made In U.S.A.
08:10 AM on 09/29/2011
I never see anyone interviewing the GOP ask them for the evidence that less regulation and lower taxes will create jobs. I always hear the GOP say "it is my sense" that this will happen but they never point to evidence that it is true. If less regulation and lower taxes created jobs, wouldn't we be flush with jobs with the lowest tax rates in 60 years. I can be convinced with facts and data, not "a sense".
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fgbouman
Curmudgeon & Designer
07:31 AM on 09/29/2011
The only uncertainty is whether the electorate will again be dumb enough to fall for Republican propaganda.
03:03 AM on 09/29/2011
Yes, and if tax cuts created jobs, we should be all well employed by now. The GOP is struggling to find a message that even its gullible adherents will not laugh at. What we really need now in America is honest government. Lobbyists ought to have to do their bribery in the open, on live tv. Add your name to our petition at. http://signon.org/sign/out-lobbyists
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meglon978
Beware of gifts bearing Greeks.
05:27 AM on 09/29/2011
Do not underestimate the gullibility of those that adhere to the GOP.
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cb55
10:27 AM on 09/29/2011
Their mantra is....if you say it enough, it must be true. Education is under-funded for a reason.
07:03 AM on 09/29/2011
The 2003 tax cuts delivered a 4.2% unemployment rate in 2006

Then the Ds too Congress
02:40 PM on 09/29/2011
But, But, But they promised jobs each and every time ! Where are the jobs ? They lied !
Butquestioning
Searching for truth
03:32 PM on 09/29/2011
The housing bubble that ran from 2003 thru late 2006, created what we have today. The collapse of that bubble had begun before the Democrats ever were elected and took office in 2007. The depth of the problem only started to become known in 2007 and spread to even greater depths as Bush left office in 2009.

And, can you name one bill that was passed by the Democrats that caused any of this to happen? Would Bush have not vetoed anything and did not the Republicans filibuster any bills the Democrats offered?

Look again and notice that the jobless recovery of 2002 - 2004 was instrumental in lowering the interest rates that generated the boom in housing - and the deregulation of banking provided the vehicle for the collapse of the financial industry and the eocnomy. I would not compare Bush to Obama if you want to win a debate...