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Obama Jobs Speech Preliminary: Understanding How Stimulus Works

Posted: 09/06/11 04:43 PM ET

I'm not trying to do a "prebuttal" here -- that's an ugly Washington move where you present a counter-argument to a speech or idea that hasn't been delivered yet. But we're already hearing the Republicans attack the president's forthcoming jobs plan as reckless spending that will just increase the deficit, blow up the debt, yada, yada...

So I wanted to make an essential yet poorly understood point about spending on jobs programs of the type we expect to hear Thursday night:

Temporary spending does NOT increase either the long-term deficit or the growth of the national debt.

The measures the president will introduce are temporary programs needed to ensure there's enough economic activity to support the growth and jobs we badly need. In normal times, private sector firms carry out much more of this function, but there's still way too much slack out there, and federal fiscal policy is the main game in town.

I grant you, "temporary" in this context is proving to be a number of years, but that's to be expected given the depth of the recession, the long deleveraging cycle (people paying or writing off debts), and the fact that we've already made some wrongheaded austerity moves extending the slog in which we're stuck.

But the above rule still holds (and is complemented by the fact that borrowing costs are so low right now). By way of example, consider the Recovery Act, which, at $800 billion, added much more to the deficit than the sum of what I expect to hear from the president.

The first figure shows the Recovery Act's contribution to annual deficits; the second shows the debt (the sum of accumulated deficits) as a share of GDP. Stabilizing the debt/GDP ratio is the first goal of sustainable budgeting (the second is to get that ratio falling).

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As you can see, even a large spending measure, as long as it's temporary, expands the deficit only for a few years, and then becomes a very small factor. While it raises the level of the debt, once it's over, it does not contribute to its growth.

Compare those results with the Bush tax cuts, which look much more like permanent programs that continuously boost both annual deficits and the growth of the debt.

There are simply no good fiscal reasons not to implement measures that will boost paychecks, help the unemployed, and get folks back to work fixing up our infrastructure. By dint of being temporary, they have little impact on the growth of the debt, and by increasing economic activity, jobs, spending and investment, they lead to faster growth than would otherwise occur.

This post originally appeared at Jared Bernstein's On The Economy blog.

 
 
 
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Value Investor
How's that "change" working for you ?
10:06 AM on 09/08/2011
When you have "dozens" of large and small TEMPORARY spendings one after a another......the deficit and debt has to grow. Geez......the author makes it sound like TEMPORARY spending costs nothing !
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js0860
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04:34 PM on 09/08/2011
Spending money you don't have and calling it TEMPORARY spending is simply an irresponsible rationalization to spend money that we don't have.
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ciotog17
Deploring neoconservatism since 1968
01:00 PM on 09/07/2011
So if I understand it, the current economic situation is like when you wake up one morning and your sewers have backed up into your basement. You may not be able to afford renting the big wetvac to suck up the smelly ooze crap floating around down there but you also cannot afford NOT to rent it, either. So you suck it up to suck it up, so to speak and worry about the bill once the basement is clean and dry again. So...America, let's suck it up already!
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js0860
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04:35 PM on 09/08/2011
This administration has been sucking for nearing three years now. What happened to the last $856BILLION in stimulus? Did we not have bridges to fix when Obama rammed that one through?
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ciotog17
Deploring neoconservatism since 1968
05:01 PM on 09/08/2011
Actually our road bridges got fixed with stimulus money here in Illinois. If you have bridges that need fixing, this might be the time to apply for more federal money.
I don't have a problem with the feds providing the funds; I just wish the state would switch the preferred road material to cement from peanut butter or whatever they use now. It's like they never stay paved.
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ciotog17
Deploring neoconservatism since 1968
12:56 PM on 09/07/2011
So if I understand it, the current economic situation is like when you wake up one morning and your sewers have backed up into your basement. You may not be able to afford renting the bg wetvac
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Tsakonas
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12:32 PM on 09/07/2011
The wealthy are sitting on Trillions of dollars. Why do they need more? They have more than they need for a decade or more.
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js0860
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04:36 PM on 09/08/2011
Yes! Let's take all the wealthy's money and redistribute it like China and the Soviet Union did!
11:54 AM on 09/07/2011
Taking a cue from the GOP's rhetorical tactics, it's time to rename our current situation "THE BUSH FINANCIAL CRISIS".
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02:06 PM on 09/07/2011
Hear hear.
04:10 PM on 09/07/2011
"Use your labor and build your own darn roads. Stay off of ours. "

Please tell me exactly which roads YOU have built so that I do not inadvertently trespass.

I suspect by "ours" you mean Other People Whose Labor You Intend To Cite As Your Own.
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Value Investor
How's that "change" working for you ?
10:07 AM on 09/08/2011
I guess since it's Bush fault it's ok to validate Obama's current trajectory for this nation ?
04:12 PM on 09/07/2011
Before that it was the Kennedy Financial Crisis, or the Carter Financial Crisis, or the Obama financial crisis.
11:14 AM on 09/07/2011
This is a good article for the author's position but fails in one major way - it assumes a static financial status. Ading even more debt onto the already massive load (whether interest rates are low or not) will lower our credit standing which will increase rates. The government is not holding 30 years, low-interest loans. We are holding a majority of short-term products that will adjust up when the credit rating goes down (as it will when we add even more debt). When the rates goes up, the load will be far worse than it is being projected.
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10:06 AM on 09/07/2011
A good article, unfortunately it is a waste of ink (even cyber ink) to provide facts and evidence to the current argument. There is no way on earth that the current crew in Congress are going to approve anything that might help the country crawl out of the abyss, so long that President Obama is in the white house. Until such time that either the resideints of the Congress are replaced with people more interested in the country's welfare than their own politics, or the president is replaced with someone that Congress will accept, we are doomed to follow the cuurrent path, regardless of the damage to the common working man and woman. It used to be that 'deficits don't matter' (Dick Cheney 2002), now the deficit is a weapon used to beat the middle class down further, and elevate the profits of the mega-wealthy.
08:26 AM on 09/07/2011
You are correct, it will take years. But you fail to mention that almost 3 of those years were already wasted by having no plan at all. Are these campaign band aids to be applied now? Or do we continue to blame Republicans for his failing to put a plan to action? The first two years, Obama had a friendly Democratic Congress to put a reasonable plan to work and he failed to do so. It's too little ($300 Billion) and too late but I think the president should have some strong new approach in his plan and we should wait until he speaks before jumping to any conclusions. If he has a sound plan, most will agree with him. If he doesn't, it will be more of the same.
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jwredd
11:17 AM on 09/07/2011
You're actually saying that if he went big ("It's too little ($300 Billion)") with a "strong new approach" "most will agree with him"? I guess you don't consider congressional republicans to fall into the "most" category. According to numerous polls 51-70+% of the voting public can agree with the president on any given issue and the GOP will unanimously oppose it.

Seriously... you must be joking. There is no big proposal that would attract republican support, period.
12:59 PM on 09/07/2011
no, you actually said "big".What I said meaning, he already blew 4 trillion bailing out banks and corporations and a stimilus with more waste that did not work. So what's 3 billion more going to do, spark up the economy? He needs to stop his anti business tactics and try something different, not big, but a different new approach otherwise it's insanity- doing the same thing over and over again with same results is insanity.
08:25 AM on 09/07/2011
So what you are saying if I give my wife and kids my credit card and send them on a "temporary" shopping spree at the local mall, I don't need to pay this debt as I was spurring the local economy. I must have missed this in my finical agreement with the credit card company.
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js0860
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04:38 PM on 09/08/2011
Exactly! But, can someone tell me what we got for the last $856Billion stimulus? No accountability and plenty of repeat failure!
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paxatman
Do no harm, Help others.
08:17 AM on 09/07/2011
The strength of our country has always stemmed from the working classes. Mainly because they give out of a sense of responsibility and compassion. They understand we are one.

The ruling wealth in this country are unable to comprehend this and never will.

They have Reagon's Disease.
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Skunkman
old & decrepit
07:31 AM on 09/07/2011
The Party of NO, will not pass any legislation that might help our economy,,,,, America knows what this is all about........

GOP -McConnell: Oct. 29, 2010: "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."

GOP : Rush “I hope he [Obama] fails”

Mike
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How's that "change" working for you ?
10:09 AM on 09/08/2011
I hope he fails too in spending money we don't have on spending projects that generate no long term benefits to this country ! Hoping something "bad" to fail is not necessarily a bad thing.
07:26 AM on 09/07/2011
Jared,

I am sorry but this situation has gone on too long. I predict another sweep across the board in Congress and the WH if things do not change. The American People need Bigger and Better right now....I truthfully do not think $300 Billion is enough or will cause a dent in what needs to be done.

And when we really do get our "Act Together" we need to take Healthcare OUT of the Corporations and make a single payor system that works, maybe on a sliding scale, based on salary. Other countries have healthcare, and that is why they are working and we are not.

I truly believe that every worker that gets fired after 50 is because the Corporation no longer wants to carry their healthcare cost.

The other thing we need to do is TRAIN people again for the job. No one has a spare $4,000 to $20,000 to go back to these Training Colleges right now. It should be like it was when I first started working; with on the job training and a lower salary until you learn the job.

All Wall Street is looking for is a Clone of Ronald Reagan, and they are going to SIT on their money unitl they get a President they desire in the White House.
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07:07 AM on 09/07/2011
Jared, why do the democrats continue to promote the destruction of social security by reducing employee and employer contributions to FICA? This will hasten the demise of an already weakened SocSec program.
06:29 AM on 09/07/2011
I can make a graph and make it unrealistic, and fudge the figures too. The stimulus spending is "temporary", and then he admits it may be 5-10 years. We can only afford an extra $1 trillion in spending for 1 year before we default. The President's plan is same old, same old. I don't say Romney's plan is any better, but it is different. Cain's plan is pretty darn good. He converts the tax program in to one that is less dependent on the vagaries of the economy. He includes a balanced budget, which means we have short term cuts in spending, until we can truly afford them. Obama took defense spending and war spending from Bush levels and increased them. He added new wars (now at 6), and kept throwing money at the old wars. We have to top sending our money overseas. Then we will have it for all the programs we want at home.

The most startling figure is if we cut foreign aide where we are "disliked" by 50%, cut war spending by 50%, and enacted the 9,9,9 program of Mr. Cain, we could fully fund all the social programs, and pay down the debt each year!!!
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js0860
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04:40 PM on 09/08/2011
You mean you didn't see any improvement from the last $856Billion stimulus? Everyone else on here seems to think it worked just fine. They want more of it!
06:21 AM on 09/07/2011
Much of the T.A.R.P. and much of the Stimulus money went to Medicaid. It will probably happen
again. Isn't it strange no politician mentions the two elephants in the room. The 50 billion monthly
trade deficit, or the 4 million legal and illegal jobless people we allow in every year. Aren't we
suppose to be a Republic. What kind of government deliberately ships millions of jobs out of the
country,and then proceeds to import cheap foreign labor, pitting them against american workers
and their families?
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SlammoFandango
10:13 AM on 09/07/2011
Apparently, you’re not listening to EVERY politician. Ron Paul is constantly talking about how the Fed, in printing new money to pay down debt, ends up enabling a situation whereby these new dollars are sent over seas and why it is only obvious that our jobs are only going to follow those dollars when it is those dollars are reinvested overseas to create new factories in foreign lands which only serve to further weaken the trade deficit and thus our predicament only gets worse. This current problem was predicted years ago but no one wanted to listen to the warnings then when we still had a strong consumer economy which was then already unnaturally stimulated into its boom yet was clearly destined to come to a screeching halt because there wasn’t then and certainly isn’t now enough domestic manufacturing to overtake the disparity between credit monetization and wealth creation.

The influx of cheap foreign labor if you haven't noticed has slowed and not due to tighter controls on the border but because wages here are not keeping up with wages elswhere.

Sure, better infrastructure helps the flow of commerce but a functioning bridge and a functioning factory are two entirely different things. A bridge can’t take newly introduced capital resources and convert those resources into an amount of wealth exceeding the monetary value of the original capital investment of those resources.