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Jason Derr

Jason Derr

Posted: October 4, 2010 07:24 PM

In previous articles on The Huffington Post, I had begun to argue for an experience of God without God. In this I meant recognition of what Simone Weil described this way: "I am an atheist and a Christian, for what we call God cannot possibly exist -- but the object of my devotion is not in vain." God, in this conception, becomes a word we use to describe Love. Other words to describe Love are hope, justice, mercy etc. As one Pagan scholar put it, "God/dess is not something we believe in, but something we participate in."

While I hope my approach is wide enough to engage conversation among a variety of faith traditions, I myself will continue to speak as a Christian-on-a-journey. I hope this will provoke the thought of my fellow Christians and invite a space of mutual co-inquiry among my fellow travelers of all faiths.

Trinitarian Concerns

Among my more conservative fellow travelers in the Christian tradition is a concern over the Trinity. In addition to the uniqueness of Christ the Trinity has become a sort of love-it-or-leave it test for some Christians. If we cannot affirm the Trinity as a fact and definition of the nature of God, then we have removed ourselves from the Christian continuity of history. Of course, that continuity contains a lot of debate and a variety of opinion on matters such as the Trinity, but this fact seems to be overlooked often.

Trinity is problematic for Christians who define themselves as orthodox, in the sense that they affirm the "historic" tradition and teaching of the church. It's problematic in that the phrase and concept never appear in the Christian or Hebrew scriptures. There are a few scripture references that can be taken to represent a Trinity concept in its infancy, but they only work if we play games with the text. Language taken to represent something Trinity-like is found in the text, but again it takes an interpretive bias in order to land on the three-who-are-one-who-is-three-who-is-one construction of God.

What many of these so-called orthodox believers don't want to admit to is the fact that to get to a Trinity, they must affirm the councils of the early Church as having engaged in an open canon -- an idea that revelation continues and that the Christian scriptures do not contain the full revelation of God. It's an almost Buddhist or Jewish approach, which I would welcome in the church but which the conservative/orthodox and traditional believer tends to shy away from, even as they are dependent on it.

As I continue to expand on my conception of a postmodern theology rooted in a weakness of God and a spirituality of incarnation -- we participate in God and make God real through the work of Love -- I hope to not move away from a concept of Trinity but into a new relationship with it. As a theopoet I am less concerned with constructions of final definitions of God but in the surplus of meaning found in the contemporary Christian tradition.

Trinitarian Musings

The history of Christian thought is a history of poetry. It is a history of conversation, debate and diversity. The spaces I have here to explore these ideas are limited, and as such I cannot recount -- nor would I be able to -- the entire history of Trinitarian thought. Instead I will engage as a poet of faith and continue the conversation that my forebears began and continue the work of exploring the meaning of Trinity for us in a contemporary, postmodern context.

If the traditional view is called the Orthodox view, then my view could be considered to be a Paradoxological view -- one rooted in a plurality and diversity of meaning. In this way the theology I am constructing is not a truth statement but a signpost on the journey of faith. As I will explain, this is an essential component of how we can view the Trinity in the postmodern world.

The Trinity affirms an image of God rooted in plurality and multiplicity. Despite attempts to the contrary, it affirms a God who is diverse and who thrives in plurality, which is transgender (Male Father, Female Spirit and Two-Spirited Son who is a incarnation of God's feminine wisdom) and is immanent, transcendent and personal. For a faith that views God as Love-in-Action, a God who thrives in plurality of expression -- as must the work of Love -- is liberating. It puts forth a poetic of the experience of God that does not rely on affirmations of the essential definition or defense of a Christian construction of God but instead recognizes that the experience of God is itself plural and finds expression in plurality. Trinity can be a way of opening ourselves up to the plurality of God's expression in the world and affirming the unique gifts and diversity of the world's great faiths.

This moves us away from Orthodoxy to Paradoxology. The expression and experience of God -- the expression and experience of Love-in-Action -- exists in plurality and multiplicity. Instead of affirming a definition of God, a postmodern Trinitarian construction can allow us to affirm an experience of God. As a Christian I can affirm an experience of God as Father, Son and Holy Spirit (or Creator, Creation and Creating, or Love, Loving and Lover) without having to disaffirm the traditions and experiences of my neighbor, whatever his or her faith or non-faith.

New Trinitarian models allow for the space for new visions of humanity in relationship and the church as agents of love and change in the world. If plurality is the major expression and manifestation of God, then it is through affirming, allowing and expressing plurality in our communities that change and diversity can be encouraged. As we become more diverse -- and thus closer to our image of God -- the more diversity we will welcome in the world. Trinity is not a place to resist the experiences of God of others but a place to welcome their views and experiences as valid and part of the expression of Love-in-Action in the world today.

Trinitarian Futures

Religions are often characterized by their identification of a deity; how we express and define our God is usually in relationship with how we define ourselves. If we say God is vengeful or God is wrathful, then we usually identify ourselves as deserving of vengeance and wrath or in the exclusive club that has escaped vengeance and wrath. When we say God is Love, then we express a sense of ourselves -- an expression of spirituality -- as deserving, needing and expressing love.

In the Christian tradition -- and several others -- this relationship between God and our self-understanding is usually expressed in constructions of salvation. God as Love seeks to save us from lovelessness, and God as Trinity as I have expressed it saves us from the need for exclusive claims and offers the opportunity for expressing and experiencing God as plurality, multiplicity and diversity. Salvation is not towards exclusive constructs and absolute claims, but towards pluralism.

In the traditional understanding of Trinity, no single part of the Trinity -- not the Father, not the Son and not the Spirit -- is the true God while the rest of it are subordinate Gods or parts of God. Trinity is God. Plurality, Diversity and Multiplicity are God. Affirming multiplicity, diversity and multiplicity are ways of affirming the role of God in the human condition. It is a way of expressing the work of God in love and the necessity of Love to destroy our exclusive and absolute claims and affirm Love as an action that creates larger forms of inclusiveness, for a God who is Love-in-Action cannot be fully realized in the world if Love is exclusive and discriminatory in its claims. In this way I affirm an experience and expression of God that is at its heart Trinitarian.

 
 
 
 
 
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02:50 AM on 10/06/2010
Your kidding yourself Jason. What does a theopoet have to do with theology?
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Jason Derr
09:42 AM on 10/08/2010
It has everything to do with it. What is theology is not poetry? Check out my book 'towards a theopoetic of the cross' for more on this!
01:41 AM on 10/06/2010
Toho Studios has an awesome 3-headed monster:

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/k/kingghid.jpg
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Jason Derr
09:43 AM on 10/08/2010
I loved Toho movies growing up. We need MORE giant monster movies!
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Mikdow
Curse you, Mansquito.
11:26 PM on 10/05/2010
God as a Trinity is not an exclusively Christian idea. The Triple Goddesses of ancient Greece and Anatolia precede the Christian Trinity by several thousand years. Traditionally, the goddess is seen as a virgin, a mother, and finally a crone, but tradition is not consensus. A God/dess Trinity of the male sun and the female earth is often completed by a divine child.

The Christian Trinity of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit is interesting in itself, especially for the contortions one must go through to bring coherency to the model. I am fascinated at attempts to try such a thing, both for the intellectual prowess involved, and for the questions it brings to mind: why would anyone try to build such a model in the first place, and how far will they go before foundering upon the reefs of paganism?

As a model of divinity, the Trinity has been useful in many cultures for thousands of years, but I fail to see how, as a metaphysical construction, it can help one to experience God any more easily than a shaman's drum is able to do so.
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Jason Derr
09:44 AM on 10/08/2010
Yes, I do enjoy the pagan trinity as well. Mathew Fox often addresses them in his writing. As for your last point - why does the Trinity - or any poetry of faith - need to help a person expiernce the Holy more easily than a shamans drum? Can't they be too vocabularies of the Holy?
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Mikdow
Curse you, Mansquito.
12:35 PM on 10/08/2010
The bible does not describe God as a Holy Trinity; at least not clearly so. Because of this many Christians consider the Trinity to be a pagan idea. Historically it is.

Pagan trinities may describe the life of a man or a woman: typically youth, maturity and old age. The Christian Trinity may describe the metaphysical life of that same person as an emanation from the Divine: God made man, God became man, and the Holy Spirit makes it so. That's fine if you agree with Baruch Spinoza, Bertrand Russel or even John Dee (Queen Elizabeth I's astrologer) but it's not so good if one is a fundamentalist Christian who believes that God is up there and we are down here and never the twain shall meet.

One version of Christianity teaches that we are the children of God and it is through Christ that we become like God our Father.

Another version of Christianity teaches that though we are the children of God we are spiritually flawed by original sin and because of this we will never be like God our Father. The best we can do is ask forgiveness and promise never to sin again.

A Christian of the first variety may find a path to God in the Trinity.

A Christian of the second variety does not even think it possible that such a path exists.

If I had more space I'd continue. Great discussion, and I hope to do talk to you again, Jason.
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05:25 PM on 10/05/2010
I start to like theopoecy. But honestly: is this christian?

Anyway, Love-In-action.
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Jason Derr
09:46 AM on 10/08/2010
I can't answer that for you. Maybe look at Amos Niven Wilders book 'Theopoetics' or at my own book 'Towards a Theopoetic of the Cross'. All I can say is that I am a Christian and this is how I express to the vocabulary of my own faith.
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04:35 PM on 10/09/2010
Personally, I have no problem at all with your view.

It's not that I wouldn't call it christian. It's more the fact that I doubt that representatives of christian theology would agree that it is christian. I just don't think that christian theology tolerates private re-interpretations of the meaning of the death of Jesus on the cross. Not even if they could be seen as 'improvements'.

On the other hand, christian theology also claims that there is nothing more private to a person's faith than their very own private understanding of the death of Jesus on the cross.

It's a mystery, isn't it?
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JohnFromCensornati
Wake up! It's 1984.
05:13 PM on 10/05/2010
1 + 1 + 1 ≠ 1
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05:21 PM on 10/05/2010
wow, where did you get that = crossed out?
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JohnFromCensornati
Wake up! It's 1984.
05:25 PM on 10/05/2010
Copy & paste.
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05:28 PM on 10/05/2010
≠

got it.
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Jason Derr
10:40 AM on 10/08/2010
Love It!