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Rubio's DREAM is American Apartheid

Posted: 04/23/2012 7:28 am

Mitt Romney came out with a new idea the other day, and it took his consultants a full day to disavow it. For Romney, that qualifies as a deeply-held belief.

Speaking at a fundraiser in Florida, Romney said, "We have to get Hispanics to vote for our party" and warned that Obama's 40-point lead among Hispanics "spells doom for us." Then he called for a Republican DREAM Act, a reference to Democratic legislation that offers some illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

No sooner did the words leave his mouth than all the king's men recast anything Romney said at the gathering as "ideas, not plans" and promised that the former governor would "study and consider" the Republican DREAM Act that Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is pushing.

Romney is only getting 23% of the Hispanic vote, less than the 31% Sen. John McCain got in 2008 and far short of George W. Bush's high-water mark of 40% in 2004. But Romney also needs to consolidate anti-immigrant Republicans who are in no mood for the compromise Rubio's proposing.

Rubio's proposal would represent a significant retreat from the hard-right positions Romney staked out in the primary, but there's no guarantee that Romney won't end up in no-man's land with Hispanic voters if he gets behind the bill. Rubio's bill would allow underage illegal immigrants to study, work, and serve in our military. They could even get drivers' licenses, but unlike the real DREAM Act, they could only get non-immigrant visas. To apply for citizenship, they would have to self-deport themselves and start over from their home countries.

In other words, these kids would be second-class, and they wouldn't be citizens. Basically, Rubio took the American Dream out of the DREAM Act. To be fair, the policy sounds better in the original Afrikaan, the language also known as Cape Dutch spoken by white settlers in South Africa. You probably already known at least one word in Afrikaans: apartheid.

It speaks volumes about the inherent racism of the Republican Party that they would trot out a Cuban to tell America what to do with all those Mexicans. To white folks, that seems like a distinction without a difference. To Hispanics, that's like an Eskimo telling Republicans how to handle Hawaiians.

Perhaps we should be grateful for the possible emergence of Romney's kindler, gentler side when it comes to immigration, because the sight of him getting to the right of Rick Perry during the Republican Primary was embarrassing for everyone. He called Arizona's stridently anti-immigration law "a model" and campaigned with the law's author, former Kansas Sec. of State Kris Kobach, on Martin Luther King Day, for Pete's sake.

"Mitt Romney stands apart from the others. He's the only one who's taken a strong across-the-board position on immigration," Kobach said, though the Romney campaign recently dropped Kobach from its list of official policy advisers.

In fact, back when he was trying to get to the right of Rick Perry, Romney came out against offering children of illegal immigrants "permanent residency," which is exactly what Rubio's bill would offer.

"And I have indicated I would veto the DREAM Act if provisions included in that act to say that people who are here illegally, if they go to school here long enough, get a degree here that they can become permanent residents. I think that's a mistake. I think we have to follow the law and insist those who come here illegally, ultimately return home, apply, and get in line with everyone else," said Romney.

In another debate he came out even more stridently against the education and work benefits that are in Rubio's bill, saying, "We've got to stop illegal immigration. That means turning off the magnets of amnesty, in-state tuition for illegal aliens, employers that knowingly hire people that have come here illegally."

It's not what Romney says that means anything, but why he says it. The only reason he's taken a breath since 1994 is to get elected. Now, once again, Romney is trying to stand for something to see if Hispanics and Republicans will fall for anything.

 
 
 

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05:15 PM on 05/03/2012
"You probably already known at least one word in Afrikaans: apartheid."

Maybe you should understand some history about the word before you start tossing it around so easily.

Under apartheid (enforced racial segregation, you know different from legal status but let's not discuss your complete misuse of the actual definition) African (legal) citizens were disenfrancized of their right to vote, several laws were passed relating to making it criminal for mixed races to marry or even have sex, segregation was enforced and many people were resettled out of their homes, and businesses were not allowed to hire legal citizens.

That is a very short encapsulation of only some of the things that happened under apartheid. Is that the same is enforcing legal status? Do any of the things I mentioned (forced segregation, laws disallowing mixed race marriage, resettlments) stem from Rubio's Dream Act?

No they do not. Stop using terms you do not understand and stop bombthrowing, if you want to be taken seriously as a writer make better arguments.
12:35 AM on 04/29/2012
PS Justin,
These "kids" (adults actually) already are citizens, of their country of origin. If you think they should be US citizens, give them yours.
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nasknit
Freedom isn't free.
04:48 PM on 05/03/2012
Great comment.
12:23 AM on 04/29/2012
In other words,under Rubio's plan the Dreamers would be treated the same as lawful foreign students. That's not apartheid, that is fairness and justice - for the law abiding. But of course that's not good enough for the law breaking ingrates, they think they should be given a $2 million reward for breaking US laws. How about you Justin and the other Scheme Act supporters pooling your money and giving away $2 million each to as many foreign law breakers you want, Americans sure as heck aren't going to.
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ugly american
"I drank what?"- Last words of Socrates
03:08 AM on 04/24/2012
So it is proposed by Democrats and in a version Republicans and demanded by the critical foreign national voter demographic they represent that they have a right to continue to ignore the law their parents ignored that got them here and a free education courtesy of the US tax payer. they also demand we pay for post secondary education and provide them with citizenship and a reward for doing what American citizens simply do for themselves.
Illegal foreign nationals collect a feast of benefits while all Americans get is a big bill and more competition for scarce jobs.
What a deal!
It would be smart for us to pass on any version of the DREAM Act and wait for an offer that benefits the people of this country. However Mexico should in good faith make the DREAM Act the law in their country.
11:50 PM on 04/23/2012
Neither party offers a realistic solution. Here is one:

"THE FAIR DREAM ACT"

1- Illegals have to acknowledge that they have broken the law and pay a penalty for no less then $15K..Payable in a five year term at 5% APR. Upon applying, they would be issued a temporary work permit for 5 years, if they fail to make payments for more than 90 days, the work permit would be cancelled and they will be subject to deportation.
2.- Pass a TOEFL exam with a satisfactory score.
3- Get a GED or high school diploma.
4.-Once the work permit is issued, neither they nor their family will be eligible for any type of public assistance. If they receive public assistance, they will be subject to deportation.
5.-Have no criminal record neither in the U.S. nor in their country of origin.
6.- If they have children born in the U.S., they must have paid at least 50% of the cost of maternity
7- At the end of the five year period, if they fulfilled all the above requirements, they can change their status to legal resident. If they do not meet the requirements, they will be subject to deportation.”
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nasknit
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04:57 PM on 05/03/2012
I like your Dream Act better than any of the others proposed. Send it to your congressman/woman &/or senator.
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Vince Almaraz
11:34 PM on 04/23/2012
Here we go again with the "anti-immigrant" statement. To activists and some Liberals, if you are against illegal immigration you are "anti-immigrant". It's a laughable statement. I work with a legal immigrant from Russia. She followed the rules, learned the language and follows the law. She did it right. Are you going to tell me that she is viewed in the same way that the illegal alien from Mexico driving around with no driver's license, no insurance, and can't speak English? Give me a break.
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iuriggs6
Sure thing. Shoot, Timmy.
04:08 PM on 04/24/2012
I have 4 or 5 good friends that are legal immigrants (India, Mali, El Salvador and Mexico) and I feel the exact same way about this issue. Authors either use the term "anti-immigrant" because they are lazy or are trying to promote their own agenda. I'm betting on the later.
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Luis Angel Rosa
07:19 PM on 04/23/2012
Rubio's dream is an immigrants pesadilla (nightmare)
This guy has no vote with most Hispanics.
Only with other like minded Republican Cubans,
Cubans that forget why and how most of them got here,
Fellow Latinos looking for a chance at a better life.
Rubio is a proven liar and I do hope Rommy's pick as a his running mate.
Perfect together.
It will be like history repeating itself,
Another big stupid,
Clueless mistake like when John McCain made with Sarah Palin.
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Vince Almaraz
10:08 PM on 04/23/2012
Where do you draw the line with the statement "looking for a chance for a better life"? I hate to break this to you, but thieves, carjackers, drug dealers, pirates, etc. are all looking for a better life. At what point do you start making people take responsibility for their actions?
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Luis Angel Rosa
08:51 AM on 04/24/2012
And I Love breaking this to you,
But in my book most of the people that come to America come looking for a better life.
They also know it's going to be hard and are ready to work.
All they need is a chance, A break.
Most of people that come over stay out of trouble.

Thieves, carjackers, drug dealers, pirates, etc.
Look to get over easy.
Maybe when you write about the bad that came over you're speaking from experience and about your own family?
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nasknit
Freedom isn't free.
05:03 PM on 05/03/2012
WHY does every country in the world have the right to secure their borders, except the USA? EXACTLY how many MORE poorly educated, unskilled, impoverished "peoples of the world" would YOU require to assuage your "liberal" guilt? 10 Million? 20 Million? 50 Million? 100 Million? 500 Million? One Billion? Exactly WHERE are you going to get the resources to feed, clothe, provide shelter, educate those people?
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
06:38 PM on 04/23/2012
The Dream Act is nothing more than another amnesty for millions of illegals in America. It will encourage chain migration of other familiy members also. The Dream Act is not going to happen. Period. Why should illegals from other countries, mainly Mexico, be given a free education courtesy of the American taxpayers? It is a position that is so totally indefensible. Does not Mexico have colleges and universities where these people can get their degrees? I don't understand why they want America to pay for their educations. Do you?
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Wurkenstiff
Accept me for who I am and it won't be empty!
02:24 PM on 04/23/2012
The DREAM Act is a farce that spits in the face of people that have been legally proceeding with their immigration.

Even if people do illegally reside here why is it incumbent upon legal residents to foster their illegal activity providing incentives like food stamps, education and welfare?

People come here to work but stay here for freebies!

Self deportation works regardless of how "racist" Jason Stanford "Democratic consultant and writer" thinks it is that average people should not be supporting the lifestyles of people that choose to break all the rules the rest of us are required to abide.

He obviously has never had his car totaled by an illegal immigrant. It has happened to 3 people I know in Massachusetts since we are such an immigrant friendly state.
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
01:37 PM on 04/23/2012
Rubio wants to deny other Hispanics what he and his fellows Cubans get when they arrive in the the United States.
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Viper1st
multi quasi faceted
04:25 PM on 04/23/2012
"other Hispanics" do make up a part of the 1 "Vetted" legal immigrant allowed legal entry into the USA every 38 seconds, since 2001

That's over 10 million legal immigrants have entered the USA in the past consecutive 10 years

Evidence the U.S. Immigration System is not broken

No need for 11.2 million illegals, uneducated & unskilled self-importing themselves illegally in the USA

Especially while ~ 13 million U.S. Citizens have been out of work for the past consecutive 40 months of Obama presidency ~ Where is these U.S. Citizens' American Dream, being SCABBED by 11.2 million illegals, unauthorized to work in the USA?
12:27 AM on 04/29/2012
You could get what Cubans do, just move to Cuba and become a Cuban citizen!
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
01:01 PM on 04/29/2012
I don't want to get what Cubans get and I don't need to go to Cuba. I'm a natural born citizen who has fought to protect this country! What's your point?
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
01:10 PM on 04/29/2012
I don't want to get what Cubans get and I don't need to go to Cuba. I'm a natural born American citizen who together with many relatives has fought to protect the United States - that means you - Mr. or Mrs. "US American."
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hjo4
Don't make your problems mine
12:29 PM on 04/23/2012
It's only reasonable and fair that those illegal alien minors brought here illegally&unlawfully by their parents or guardians at age 18 have to return to their country of origin and apply to legally immigrate into the United States. It is not fair for them to be rewarded for the illegal behavior of those who illegally brought them into our country. They will have a advantage because they'd have the free American education provided to them, some may even chose to remain in their country and help their fellow countrymen.

Under no circumstances should illegal alien minors be rewarded with any form of citizenship or pathway to it.That is unfair to those who apply and wait their turn to immigrate here legally and lawfully, the way it's been done for millions of immigrants since time in memorial.
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SMK1414
just another community organizer
12:11 PM on 04/23/2012
Rubio wolf in Romney's clothing. Beware who's dream is who's and what was that dream act again.
12:09 PM on 04/23/2012
I think that it is interesting that Marco Rubio was also a Mormon and is being considered as a Vice Presidential candidate. I am not talking about an individual citizens’ freedom of religion, I am talking about the influence and power of the Office of the President of the United States of America on our religious freedom who is a devout Mormon leader. If he says that he will not let his religion influence his decisions, would you believe a person accused of being a “flip flopping”, “etch-a-sketch” person? You can separate the man from the church, but you can’t separate the church from the man.
02:03 PM on 06/18/2012
Kind of like how Obama's Christianity influences his decisions?
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wikwox
So there I was, playing the piano....
10:38 AM on 04/23/2012
Killing the Dream Act was a huge mistake for the GOP, I'm anti illegal but the bill was humane, pragmatic and a good idea. The Republican's condemned it with no further explanation and Latino's took notice. Rubio now attempts to put a band aid on the open sore, not good and not effective. Rubio may well be a Latino himself, but even he won't be able to sell this and it will do the GOP no good as a whole.
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Timmy Kaye
partisans are sheep
12:13 PM on 04/23/2012
i agree, although reagan and geoge hw and w were big advocates of amnesty. so was mccain...he actually cospornsored legislation on 2007. rubio will not be the veep candidate for this reason alone.
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nasknit
Freedom isn't free.
05:09 PM on 05/03/2012
Yes, they were big proponents of aiding illegal aliens. And NONE of them EVER got 50% of the Latino vote.
02:11 PM on 04/23/2012
Did you read that DREAM Act? It provided legalization for anyone who even signed up for a class (college, community college, technical school) or has signed up from the ages of like 16-40 years old. It was like providing amnesty if anyone could breathe oxygen.
09:48 AM on 04/23/2012
I hope Romney picks Rubio thinking that the "hispanic" population in this country will flock to their party in November, nothing could be further from the truth but goes to show how ignorant the GOP is when it comes to the diversity of culture between the different groups of hispanics in this country.

as a hispanic myself with Puerto Rican roots Puerto Ricans are "Americans" and not an immigrant group as falsely viewed, they do not identify themselves with the Cubans. Mexicans also do not identify themselves with the Cuban population in this country neither do the Dominican Republicans.
so having Rubio on the ticket will do absolutely nothing but go ahead Romney and pick him...make my day.

http://voices.yahoo.com/hispanics-america-3726900.html
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lavender menace
I calls it like I see it.
12:05 PM on 04/23/2012
Cuban Americans vote Republican because the party supports their anti-Castro platform. Unlike Mexicans and other Hispanics, The first Cubans were professionals and assimilated easier than most other Hispanic immigrants.
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arecibo48
Clinton in 2016
01:35 PM on 04/23/2012
Not only supports their anti Castro platform, but also because RePuBlicans helped pass a law that provides insurance, food, an opportunity for citizenship and other perks for new arrivals - all in the name of hating Castro.
08:24 PM on 04/23/2012
of course those that fled catro were cubas one percent