They were disdainful and unscientific in their approach and did not gather the needed evidence. In the absence of that evidence, they should have insisted on further studies to assist in the decision-making process.
Vaccines as they are now manufactured and administered trigger autism in susceptible children.
This will be acknowledged by the AMA, the AAP, the CDC and the U.S. government at the same glacial pace these august entities followed in supporting the need to discourage smoking because it causes lung cancer, heart disease and other illness.
In the meantime, I'd like to answer a few of the comments to my post.
Zortag comments:
"Dr. Jay is not a scientist, he is a technician - that is what most MDs are. They are highly-trained, highly-skilled, and highly-compensated, but they do for people pretty much what a mechanic does for an Audi. I see no peer-reviewed publications in his biography, no additional training in biomedical research, and no specific expertise in vaccine science. He has no more credibility in telling you that vaccines are unsafe than I, a computer programmer, do."
Actually, I am a scientist. After high school, I continued my education and trained for twelve years in medical science. Subsequent to that, I have observed thousands of children and families and kept records about their health. That, Zortag, is science. Whether or not testing medicines and vaccines on a thousand people and then administering them to 100 million people is science is the real question.
Medical researchers have been caught manipulating results over and over again.
LaurieLee comments:
"Measles kills about one million people a year, it's not a minor inconvenience."
No, measles deaths have dropped 74% in the past seven years from a hugh of 750,000 to 197,000. This WHO document also talks about the dramatic drop in deaths in countries of much lesser health. Now, this is not magic: It's because of the measles vaccine. I'm not arguing that we should abandon the shot or the vaccine programs which have saved lives. I'm saying that we should evaluate the possible risk from this and other live virus vaccines much more objectively and scientifically than we have in the past. Yes, h4tch, completely abandoning these vaccines programs could lead to disease outbreaks. I don't recommend dumping vaccines; I recommend changing the level of safety we demand and a rigorous reevaluation of the schedule which now gives a hepatitis shot to a two-hour-old baby followed by six more shots six weeks later. The way we vaccinate lacks solid scientific support and ignores the possibility of increased vaccine safety.
Keep this discussion alive and in front of our legislators and medical community.
JNG MD
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but writes,
"Vaccines as they are now manufactured and administered trigger autism in susceptible children."
with the unwavering certainty of a creationist, the very antithesis of a scientist.
Regardless of how slow those august entities are, their pace is not your problem. They will never make recommendations contrary to a nearly unanimous scientific consensus. *You* are the hold-up. Until you provide science to support your certainty, the recommendations you want will never see the light of day.
Not according to the editor of the BMJ:
"Doctors are not scientists [...] As medical students they were filled full with information on biochemistry, anatomy, physiology, and other sciences, but information does not a scientist make—otherwise, you could become a scientist by watching the Discovery channel. A scientist is somebody who constantly questions, generates falsifiable hypotheses, and collects data from well designed experiments […]. Most doctors follow familiar patterns and rules, often improvising around those rules. In their methods of working they are more like jazz musicians than scientists." (BMJ 2004;328)
So, according to the BMJ, not only is Gordon not a scientist, but he doesn’t know what a scientist is.
It's not the courts responsibility to gather evidence. That's what the petitioners do. Obviously, their "evidence" stunk.
I realize you claim to be a doctor, but even you should know what judges do and don't do in a case.
"In the absence of that evidence, they should have insisted on further studies to assist in the decision-making process."
Again, it is the role of the petitioners, not the judges.
How can anyone consider you an authority on this issue (other than the fact they want to hear what you are saying to re-enforce their preconceived notions?....a nice arrangement you have with your 'specialization' in your line of work).
(2) Re "trigger autism": Vaccines can put the body under oxidative stress, which may just need the final straw of another vaccine, or combination of vaccines; and oxidative stress is a feature of autism. Plus: they have found some genes associated with autism that code for glutamate; and glutamate - as I have indicated elsewhere in this thread - is not only found in foodstuffs (MSG, aspartame, dairy & wheat, etc) but in vaccines, whereby it is present in the inflammatory setting OF vaccines. So not only is it wreaking havoc in its own right because it is an excitotoxin, but it is also a specific danger to children with the autism genes. Its presence indeed can "trigger autism". Plus pre-existent mitochondrial disorders can "trigger autism", especially if the child is given a large number of vaccines at a time (see the Hannah Poling case). So this also goes to how vaccines are "administered".
This is all a legitimate perspective on the matter. It is not "lying".
It also indicates how children could be screened for a genetic predisposition to damage by vaccines. If the authorities wanted to.
No thinks. I stick with the scientific literature.
(1) Re "manufactured": For example, the measles component of the MMR shot is cultured on chick embryo cells, which can be contaminated with myelin basic protein (MBP). Thus the body will mount a reaction to it as part of its reaction to the vaccine - and also to the body's own MBP (MBP is MBP). This is called an autoimmune reaction. It's part of "the immune response", but it is caused by the manufacturing process. (N.B.: This isn't just 'theory': antibodies to MBP have been found in children with autism and damaged guts; see eg V.K. Singh et al.)
cont'd
Not to mention the audacity of parents who depend on other people getting their children innoculated to protect Their own unvaccinated children - I'm only grateful that these desperate, out of touch parents who would expose their children to potentially fatal illnessess are clearly in the minority.
Meanwhile, as reported in the UK, childhood occurences of measels have exploded since this 'theory' surfaced, a theory which has been PROVEN false in study after study after study....
I sympathize along with those families who care for autistic chidren, however if they understood the scientific process they would realize the FACTS point to the truth; there is no PROOF of any link between vaccination and learning disabilits.
"Genetic predispositions?" Fine - show me the PROOF, not hair brained theories. Evidence is NOT proof. Reasearch has PROVEN NO LINK.
There would be a catastrophic mess on their hands, now wouldn't there be?!
How do you know it's not the Tylenol that is very often given in conjunction with vaccines?
http://aut.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/12/3/293
".... This preliminary study found that acetaminophen use after measles-mumps-rubella vaccination was associated with autistic disorder. "
It cannot be vaccines alone, because I have an unvaccinated child with autism (and asthma).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19210907?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
"A growing number of studies show that regular use of acetaminophen (paracetamol) carries a dose-dependent risk of developing allergies in general and asthma in particular and of worsening other respiratory diseases and lung function.... "
"... Although the pathophysiology remains unclear, the available data justify a warning to the general public that the uncritical use of over-the-counter acetaminophen can lead to the development of allergies and asthma, even in utero."
I am just throwing this one out there... when something foreign is injected into your body, wouldn't ibuprofen (an anti-inflammatory) be better for you?
Also, could it be that when you are using acetaminophen, could it open the doors for trapping heavy metals in your body as well?
It could go on and on.....
Exactly. Tylenol depletes glutathione, which is the body's natural chelator.
There is a large truth to get to here, in this matter of vaccines: that their side effects are far more extensive than the authorities and their lackeys in the public are letting the public know about - because the end justifies the means, doncha know. Well, no, I don't. I only know that the truth should out, in any area. That's what we have to get to. And that's the TRUE scientific way.