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Nation Watches Arizona Witch Hunt Showdown: Exclusive Interviews With Ethnic Studies Teachers

Posted: 04/26/11 12:35 PM ET

UPDATE April 27th: In an extraordinary uprising at the Tucson Unified School District board meeting last night, Ethnic Studies/Mexican American Studies (MAS) students chained themselves to the board members chairs and derailed the introduction of a controversial resolution that would have terminated their acclaimed program's core curriculum accreditation.

An increasingly baffled nation will watch as the long and twisted witch hunt of Tucson's Ethnic Studies/Mexican American Studies program takes a hasty Orwellian turn.

Despite the fact that a costly state-commissioned audit has been delayed and largely discredited, and a new federal suit has recently been filed by the affected Mexican-American Studies teachers, the once defiant Tucson Unified School District (TUSD) governing board could buckle under the state's bullying and consider a resolution that effectively castrates one of their district's most acclaimed programs.

Only months ago, TUSD officials vowed to "fight to the end" against the bizarre HB2281 law passed by the extremist Tea Party-controlled Arizona state legislature, which bans any school program that advocates the overthrow of the government. TUSD superintendent John Pedicone had defiantly challenged: "How can we be out of compliance with a law that's unconstitutional?"

That sentiment seems to have waned quickly, as Arizona's rabid state administrators ramped up threats to cut $15 million from the TUSD budget for any program non-compliance with the new law.

On Tuesday, April 26th, TUSD board president Mark Stegemen will introduce a divisive new resolution that ends the Mexican American Studies accreditation to meet core Social Science requirements.

In a remarkable display of doublespeak, the resolution seemingly makes the case for the Mexican American Studies program, noting the "traditional high school core curriculum substantially ignores the experience and contributions of many ethnic minorities," and adding that "among certain sample populations, staff analysis dated 3/11/11 shows that students who take MAS classes outperform those who do not." It even calls for increased Ethnic Studies funding, and declares that the "traditional core sequences in Social Sciences and English should be strengthened by adding a significant component which focuses on the contributions and viewpoints of Mexican-Americans and other ethnic minorities, especially in this region, to create a multi-cultural perspective."

How does the resolution propose to achieve these goals? Answer: By pulling the plug on Mexican American Studies: "Commencing with the 2011-12 academic year, the MAS courses cannot be used to satisfy the state's core Social Science requirements."

Throughout this debacle, the testimonies and evidence collected by the Mexican American Studies teachers, like the college-bound students, have largely been left out of the discussion.

The Save Ethnic Studies organization, along with MAS teachers, held a press conference on Monday, April 25th, and blasted the TUSD board resolution for "backhanded compliments and blatant misrepresentations of the facts regarding MAS's effectiveness, cost and class size."

In advance of Tuesday's board meeting, I interviewed MAS high school teachers Curtis Acosta and Sally Rusk, to get their perspective on the resolution.


JB: Prior to former AZ school superintendent Tom Horne's campaign against Mexican American Studies, did any state or TUSD official ever raise concerns about the MAS program?

CA: In our early days of establishing MAS as a quality educational program, I remember that there were skeptics and eye rolling from some district officials and site administrators. We knew that we would always have to work harder since multicultural and culturally responsive education can find resistance from those that trumpet the status quo or traditional education curriculum and models. Eventually, many of these same officials that were initially hesitant became some of our stronger advocates once they saw the type of students we were cultivating. It also helped once they saw the positive trends in our AIMS data, but I always believe that our students' will for social justice, compassion and love for all people became the key reason for this change of heart.

SR: No. I felt we were respected and supported by the district. We met regularly as a group monthly to enhance our teaching units (perfect professional development -- working with peers to better your lessons) and to brainstorm issues of retention and engagement.

JB: What is the status of your federal law suit challenging the constitutionality of HB 2281?

CA: Last week was our first hearing in federal court in which both parties agreed upon the schedule for all the pre-trial activity. It looks as if depositions will be taken this summer and the fall will be an important period where our experts will be completing the analysis of our program. Thus we will need to continue our fundraising campaign this summer to raise the money to pay for this crucial part of our defense. We will need all our Save Ethnic Studies supporters to dig a bit deeper in their pockets by visiting our website to donate or attending events. We are lucky to have a lawyer that is working pro bono, however the cost for us to be successful in defense of ethnic studies and academic freedom will not be inexpensive since we are battling against the state of Arizona.

JB: Has TUSD board governing board president Mark Stegeman or any other board members ever visited your class or sat down one-on-one to discuss your MAS curriculum and teaching?

SR: Months ago when Mark Stegeman came to Pueblo I looked for him during my planning period to encourage him to come to my classes and to talk about our program. I couldn't catch him. Michael Hicks recently visited my first period at Pueblo Magnet High School, and he spoke with me afterward (I had planning) and said the class was engaging, he learned something, and he was impressed with students and their interaction and enthusiasm. He said he supported ethnic studies but it was just certain people who he didn't trust. When I said that I was concerned about the elective issue killing our program, he said that we seemed to claim that students would of course be willing to sign up for the classes even if they were electives. Sigh. This ignores the FTE issue and the teenager issue. How could I expect the same amount of reading, homework, research papers, class presentations etc. in an elective course (if that class were even provided)?

CA: On March 25th, Dr. Stegeman visited my Latino/a literature class and we had a quick chat afterwards about his very public stance concerning changing our classes from core credits to electives. Before I address the content of that conversation, I thought the timing of Dr. Stegeman's visit to be curious since earlier that same week he had written a op/ed piece in The Arizona Daily Star that not only detailed his plan to strip our classes of their history and English credit, but he also criticized our professionalism as educators by claiming we were biased in such manner that was damaging to our students. He also said he was not comfortable in introducing himself to my students before class began since he felt that would be a distraction. I was shocked by this due to the fact that our students were aware of the pending audit by the state and TUSD, and a strange man in the back of the room scribbling on a legal pad would most definitely be a distraction to the learning environment. This was the case as my students made it quite clear that they needed to know who was in the room. I was disappointed that Dr. Stegeman was not sensitive to our students in this instance.

Regardless, Dr. Stegeman observed a fairly typical day in our class and upon the conclusion I spoke with him about his experience. He described the class as engaging and said he enjoyed his visit, so I asked him why he would be interested in changing a class that he felt was good for students. He told me that he was not changing them at all. I did not agree with this assessment since stripping our core credit status is a drastic change within a high school and told him as much. He did not agree which I still do not comprehend since our classes would be redundant if they became electives, meaning that students would need to take two history or English classes, a schedule that is not very appealing to our population, nor equitable for students who would lose precious elective choices while taking an additional English or history class.

However, what is interesting about your question is that Dr. Stegeman did not mention one concern to me about our classes, nor any reason why this was a sound decision. He simply stated that our classes were engaging and that he enjoyed his experience, which is not the tone, nor the content, revealed in his resolution or numerous op/ed pieces to the Star. I felt Dr. Stegeman was not being sincere and at times he disagreed with me about the elective issue using his college experience as a university professor to elaborate his point. Simultaneously, he dismissed the value of my opinion about how the elective status would damage our program, although I am a career public school teacher and have taught high school in TUSD for sixteen years. I felt that Dr. Stegeman was incredibly condescending at that point of our discussion and I needed to disengage in order to mentally prepare myself for my next class, which had already commenced. Our conversation lasted about 10 minutes and then he spoke with one of my students in the hallway for nearly 30 minutes. When my student returned she said it was aggravating talking with him since he does not listen.

One last note, when I asked Dr. Stegeman whether he had made a decision already in terms of our classes becoming electives, he told me that he was waiting for a report from the superintendent.

Conversely, I have had regular communication with Judy Burns and Adelita Grijalva during the last few months in particular and they have been very supportive and have done their fair share of listening to my concerns. I have also recently spoken to Miguel Cuevas and felt that he we engaged in a constructive dialogue and both learned a bit more from our conversation. All of these board members have their own ideas and feelings toward this issue, but I respect the way they listened since it was such a dramatic difference to Dr. Stegeman's visit. Michael Hicks visited Sally Rusk's class at Pueblo, but he refused overtures to meet with us (teachers in the lawsuit) in January.

JB: Do you feel the TUSD governing board has provided you enough time at their board meetings or public hearings to adequately present you and your students' data and testimony on the MAS program?

SR: Students, parents, and community members have presented during "Call to the Audience" at board meetings, but it seems that their testimony is ignored. So no... I would welcome a meeting with the board to discuss our curriculum and program.

CA: I think it is strange that Dr. Stegeman has not requested a public forum before writing such a discriminatory resolution. I am not sure if other board members or the superintendent have asked him for such an event, but obviously this has not come to pass. It seems that before asking his fellow school board members to vote on the fate of our classes, that they would want as much public discussion as possible to avoid any claims of collusion with Superintendent Huppenthal or state officials that have personal vendettas against our program.

I also think that Dr. Pedicone should have publicly insisted that such a dialogue take place and have been extremely disappointed in the stewardship of our new superintendent in this regard. Now is the time for bold and courageous leadership and not silence. My colleagues and I have formally met with Dr. Pedicone on only two occasions. First, on January 3rd when Attorney General Horne issued his findings and our alleged violation of the law, and the second time was to inform us in late-March of a pending audit from State Superintendent Huppenthal. Besides those two occasions, Dr. Pedicone has not communicated with us personally concerning any of his feelings or decisions toward our classes.

JB: What will happen to the MAS program if "MAS courses cannot be used to satisfy the state's core social science requirements"?

SR: This will kill our program. First, we do not have funding for electives classes in social studies (I had already requested years ago a senior level Chicano Studies elective -- because of student interest -- for students who did not take the class their junior year, realizing that it would have to be modified in terms of assignment expectations. My dept. head said there was no way the school could afford the FTE). Second why should students have to take two American History classes and be expected to complete meaningful and rigorous assignments for both classes? Mexican American history is AMERICAN history, and because we strive to enhance our students' understanding of history through their own experiences and the experiences of their elders, we incorporate the history of all our students. And we cover the state standards. Why should a student have to substitute an art class with another history class, IF there were even available funds to provide those classes.

CA: Plainly stated, it will begin the unraveling and dismantling of an amazing period of success for Latino students in TUSD. Our classes will become redundant and students that have not been engaged by their prior history classes or school experience will be asked to take an additional history class. This is counterintuitive since we know that many of our students in the past chose our classes as a last attempt to believe in school again, or to find a place for themselves in the realm of academia. Thus, we are asking students that have had negative experiences with school to take a rigorous core class with college preparatory objectives for an elective credit -- a credit that they should be able to use for art, theater, dance, P.E. or any other class of interest to them. It is not fair to our students to put them in this position.

JB: According to a draft resolution to be heard on Tuesday, April 26, at the TUSD board meeting, "the annual cost of the MAS program is slightly over $1 million, several times the cost of educating the MAS students in standard core classes." Do you feel this is an accurate accounting of the MAS program, and whether it takes into account desegregation funding, as well as success rates? If MAS has demonstrated higher academic and graduation rates as compared to the general student body, has an assessment ever been done to quantify the impact of drop-out rates and lower achievement to the school district?

CA: I will defer to our director Sean Arce for this one. However, I will tell you that my classes are Tucson High classes and not paid for by Mexican American Studies. I think Dr. Stegeman is using my salary and the salary of other teachers at specific sites (such as Sally and Larry) into this calculation. I find that type of accounting to be dubious if it is in fact how he arrived at such a figure.

SR: First of all, our department does not just affect students in the MAS classes. We used to have (before the "crisis") monthly professional development meetings that anyone could attend, and in those we shared lessons, units, concerns etc., so this professional development opportunity extended beyond the department teachers. The annual summer educational institute for professional development for educators provides amazing speakers (the top education presenters from conferences such as AERA) and curriculum presentations that have influenced many teachers. I have friends who have attended who say, "This should be MANDATORY for any teacher who wants to work in Arizona." It is a wonderful opportunity to hear amazing professionals in the education field who inspire teachers to make sure that their practice reaches all students and incorporates their experiences. Our goals are continued education, continued engagement. Of course anecdotal evidence is not included in statistics, but I would love administrators to read my students' journals, not only to see their amazing critical literacy, but to see the comments about deciding not to drop out or explaining their situations and yearning to do better because of what they are learning.

JB: The TUSD draft resolution also states that MAS is "strongly encouraging students in the MAS classes to participate in political activities which have a consistent partisan orientation." Do you consider that a true statement and outside the mission of MAS?

CA: This statement to me is ludicrous. I would like to know how Dr. Stegeman could possibly have known the political sensibilities and orientation of all my students. Has their been and entrance and exit exam that measures this for all our students that I am unaware of? How do we know that these students did not have such feelings before ever entering our classes? As a former teacher at University High School, I remember having some classes filled with students that skewed in one particular direction due to the relationship that they had with their parents, community and peers. Why would our classes deserve such haphazard scrutiny as this part of the resolution suggests?

I will speak about what we do in our classes, however. We overtly teach critical thinking and demand that our students challenge our viewpoints and claims in the classroom. We expect them to be members of a critical democracy and to develop their own beliefs in a systematic and scholarly manner. And above all, we expect them to take action in their community in order to create a better world toward social justice for all. Most of us call this civic engagement. I do not know why Dr. Stegeman would be so horrified by students that embody this ideology since it reflects the basic tenets of America. We are proud of cultivating students that are dedicated to these ideals.

SR: Education is political. (sorry to go off on a tangent... ) At Tucson High years ago I got a C in a political participation project because the candidate for whom I was volunteering (a Democrat) lost. Reason: "You didn't work hard enough." My history and government classes were taught by conservative Republicans. Now as a teacher when the year begins I tell my students my political biases and explain that I am upfront about this because even though I strive to be balanced, my bias will always come through, so they should be aware of this. I welcome dialogue, argument, differing opinions! That is democracy! Unfortunately, our encouraging political involvement makes people think we are forcing students to participate or think a certain way... Would that I had such influence! Wow! We are talking about teenagers.

 
 
 
 
 
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03:01 AM on 05/03/2011
I am an American who is very proud of my Jewish / Israeli / Polish heritage and of course I believe that Americans of Mexican (or any other) descent should be proud of their culture. But, never did my family demand that the public schools that I attended teach me about my heritage, because that is the job of families, church and non-governmental community organizations. The role of public schools should first be to use painfully limited classroom time to teach students of all races, cultures and creeds about our shared American history, values and institutions. Beyond that, schools should expose students to new experiences and cultures, not reinforce their particular ethnocentrism. For that reason, I would object if my heavily Jewish-American public school were named in honor of Ben Gurion (the 1st Prime Minster of Israel), however, I would not find it that objectionable if a heavily Mexican-American school were named in honor of him. Much of my reservations about state subsidized multiculturalism emerged after reading about the destruction caused when diversity eclipsed a common identity in the Ottoman Empire, Yugoslavia, Lebanon etc.
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
02:57 PM on 04/27/2011
Funny how as long as white people take up 95% of the paper in a history book , and have been all the people in charge its not ethnocentric - its just "the truth" of individuals acting across the timespan.
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
12:07 PM on 04/27/2011
Funny how white people for years demanded strict segregation against minorities and now that they face being a numerical minoritiy they are all about whitewashing history and demanding students need to learn to think as individuals not as part of a group.The only reason people ever acted as a group was to counter white supremacy.

And why are they only attacking ethnic studies for Chicano students, the native american and black studies are receiving no attention...yet. I imagine their strategy is to eliminate 1 group at a time , in order to decrease opposition.
11:41 AM on 04/27/2011
I have a few concerns. I do not know enough admittedly about this program or the students however from the article above I hear a few things that give me pause:

1. ".......Mexican American history is AMERICAN history......." that statement is used as a viable arguement to oppose the challenge that it is not a broad view of American history but instead a cultural political activist vinette on a section of American history.

If that is your "critical thinking" in practice, I have a concern that the speaker has a distorted inconsistent view of what critical thinking actually represents.

Mexican American history is PART OF American history would be a more accurate statement. It's subtle but it's difference could not used to land the space shuttle.

2. Suggesting ever so slightly or by default that students will abandon their education entirely if they don't hear more about Mexican Americans in a mandatory history class (one of two they would all have to take oppose to one like most schools) is in effect attempting to project a result thats based on student behavior not education details. This is not expertise of the teachers to predict or claim. It's an unknown thats not been investigated nor does any of the information in this article support such a projection. So why is the speaker saying it? It sounds desparate. If the class is as strong as described, desparation is misplaced.
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tbone99
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03:00 PM on 04/27/2011
Of course Mexican American history is part of American History , especially in the Southwest ( where that should actually be phrased in revers). But unfortunately most history books cover very little of local history and activism that inspire people to take part in making America truly a country made of contributions from all its inhabitants.
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TeraWatt60
Cogito Ergo Sum
08:42 AM on 04/27/2011
The Arizona Tea Party is evidence of the result of lack of critical thinking skills
02:28 AM on 04/27/2011
Documentary - "Is There a Place, Anarchist of México City" reveals about Mexican history. In the Mexico City, it initiated in 1860 with the arrival of a Greek called Rodakanathy that built a school wherein were popularized ideas from Bakunin - the rurals of Chalco - who organized the first revolts against the government of Benito Juárez. Later, some time before the revolution and with the help of the constant migration from Mexico to the U.S.A., the non-conformists ideas returned to steep rural workers. This documentary is a portrait of what it means today to be an anarchist in a city of 25 million inhabitants. It is a documentary that reminds us of the possibility to live otherwise, and remembers that we must retain our own freedom and right to life.

To watch please visit - http://www.cultureunplugged.com/play/4950
02:20 AM on 04/27/2011
My last comment is pending approval but I have a very basic question to pose to everyone here, should there be any culturally relevant courses in high schools before pupils are trained how to think - shouldn't these course all be in University after their critical thinking skills have been sharpened/harnessed?

Critical thinking seems to be the one focus our secondary education has been leaving behind.

Too often do I see young students completely unable to argue both sides of an argument, being able to logically describe two opposing ideas is the only sign of critical thinking.

If students spend too much time off the basics and into courses like the ones mentioned in this article these skills cannot be molded into their young minds - or do you disagree, why?
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03:03 AM on 04/27/2011
I agree that critical thinking is the ultimate goal. I grew up in Tucson; I know some of the teachers in the Mexican American Students program - I was a teacher in another school district but underwent teacher training at the at the U of Arizona's College of Education with some of the people that designed and implemented the Tucson Unified School District program now being cut by the Superintendent of Schools in AZ. The goal of this program is to sharpen critical thinking skills so that they can discern for themselves their relevance, contributions and worth. A lot of these types of programs actually started off humbly in high schools and were then taken up at the university level. Do I think it's appropriate for students to start young with this? Yes, of course. As they continue in their studies at higher levels, the deeper they delve and higher levels of critical thinking challenge them even more. And for the record, nobody is advocating getting away from the basics; these courses build on the basics.
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Edward Standley
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06:34 AM on 04/27/2011
I agree that the "art of thinking" has really been neglected, but not just at the high school level. A study reported on here at HP a few weeks ago showed that (approximate numbers) 45% of college students showed no appreciable increase in cognitive thinking skills after two years, and 35% showed no real improvement after four years. In a perfect world, every class would include a "critical thinking component", but until that happens, I don't know if throwing the social-studies-baby out with the bathwater is necessary. The young people I know love to be challenged, and I think most can deliver the goods if asked.
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
11:12 AM on 04/27/2011
Here is an example from a teacher of a recent test. Now tell me you don't support critical thinking early on !

"I clearly remember the first bench marks exams LAUSD forced me to administer.

The reading selection consisted of a speech to Middle Schoolers by the former head of the EPA Christine Todd Whitman touting President Bush's Clear Skies Act. The speech was a lie from the beginning to the end. To add injury to insult, asthma was endemic in the school where I taught, both among students and staff - largely because of the policies of President Bush and Christine Todd Whitman."
01:58 AM on 04/27/2011
Because of the current trends of American public education's failure, doesn't it logically make sense that resorting to the older classical liberal system of fewer classes & critical thinking, make more sense than that of a broad spectrum for children to choose from?

Why not cut down the curriculum and stress the age old basics like reading, writing, arithmetic, science, logic, civics, and remove all the choices. These choices can be made by students in University, there they can get all the cultural classes their heart desires.

The modern system, the choose your own classes, and the types of students it spits out, haven't really justified having any assortment of classes other than those that shape a pupil's thinking skills - I can understand cutting out the fluff and making a stronger curriculum in the basics.
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03:07 AM on 04/27/2011
So here's a program that's been operational for many years now and the data is showing that students in this program have higher graduation rates and are being prepared for and attending college at higher levels than before... and they want to cut it why?
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tbone99
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11:04 AM on 04/27/2011
Because they want to cover up the history of how minorities , especially Mexican Americans have been treated. It may make them angry and less likely to vote Republican .
Even worse it may encourage them toward a life that includes political activism , which is not recommended in todays America.
We should limit ourselves to consumerism and leave the politics to the well fed experts in Washington or Phoenix , as the case may be
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12:00 AM on 04/27/2011
Arizona Tea Party. Please go lay down and take a nap. You've been in the sun too long.
09:34 PM on 04/26/2011
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06:34 PM on 04/26/2011
Mexico does not educate its citizens past the sixth grade. Once their parents get their border crossing cards they then bring them across, sign them in as US citizens for free education. Does Mexico teach American history in their classes, doubt it. The kids then are left to roam the streets, roam the ports of entry washing windshields and causing trouble. Mexico is not a poort country, they have oil, agriculture, cattle, two oceans of fish, tourism, etc. Until they get their education system together there will be a continuance of their citizens heading north and silly Americans spending tax payer dollars on programs that don't work.
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08:27 PM on 04/26/2011
Interesting post. Please tell me more, you have an interesting perspective. I don't in any way find what you have written offensive, maybe the moderator would agree with me?
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Always great distaste for both political parties
03:39 PM on 04/26/2011
Having married a woman with two middle school aged children in the early 1990's in Texas, I quickly saw the impact of a poor school system. I wasn't wealthy enough to put the kids in private school nor wealthy enough to simply move to another state. But we did a lot of research and put together a revised career plan for me that would allow us to move to a state with a vastly better public school system.

Texas was rated #51 in the US (after Puerto Rico) at the time. Arizona was also near the bottom along with Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida and Alabama.

There were several things these poor performing school systems had in common.

1. A very high school adminstrator to teacher ratio. (Texas was 1 to 3 at the time.)

2. Significant local focus on education. My sons both had more classes on the history of Texas than on the US and the World combined.

3. A history of many lawsuits of parents suing because their children were not getting the grades they felt were earned. In some states this has resulted in teaching down to the lowest common denominator.

My experience exposed an underbelly of our education system that was ugly. I would be very careful in accepting any analysis by the school system about the results of the school system. Texas rated themselves #8 at the time.

Both of my boys struggled initially in Washington State. But both thank me now.
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08:06 PM on 04/26/2011
Holy mole, TX ranked #8? Interesting post, thanks for sharing.

#1 Sounds odd though, how is it that in TX where they supposedly hate big government they had 1 administrator for every 3 teachers?
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08:40 PM on 04/26/2011
Education is a state and local function, you are confused.
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08:50 PM on 04/26/2011
Texas may generally speak loudly about small goverment. But they are big with political favors. These school administrative positions are appointees.
03:35 PM on 04/26/2011
Though I generally support Raza, there's a slight problem with their claim that it doesn't engender a particular type of political thinking.

As a 2008 Graduate of Rincon High School, a TUSD school with a rather large MAS program, I can recall sitting in on a Raza class several times waiting for a friend next door to get out of class. The class itself was interesting enough (A few of the textbooks are pure propaganda, but nevertheless), but the political posters and calls to action plastered all over the walls show a rather blatant political agenda.

And as of December 2010 when I returned a day for a research project, that hasn't changed. I'm against 2281 and think Raza should be permitted, to claim it doesn't encourage certain partisan perspectives is extremely disingenuous.
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04:51 PM on 04/26/2011
Do you think it is healthy to be teaching ethnocentric classes? I've attended a Mexican-American class and the teacher was very radical and anti-white. Obviously, that doesn't mean all the teachers of ethnocentric classes think this way but I just don't understand why we allow the double standard to go unnoticed. In order to reach the goal of an equal society why do we condemn one form of prejudice but not the other based on historical transgressions?
02:44 AM on 04/27/2011
So long as the classes do teach critical thinking (And generally, they do), I don't believe it's unhealthy at all to teach ethnocentric classes.

To be honest, I do believe in strong oversight for Raza because there is that risk, but this is true of any history/government class, ethnocentric or not.
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08:20 PM on 04/26/2011
Even in political agendas and in propaganda there is critical thinking. The teaching of history with an emphasis on critical thinking, which is what these kinds of classes mostly aim to do, challenges students to think for themselves so they can discern the validity of truthful texts versus propaganda with a critical eye. I would agree with you though that encouraging partisan perspectives is not a good educational model; having myself taken about 10 university level courses in cultural studies I can assure you that's not what is going on here.

What we have here is an attack on good education. Since when has the teaching of an important culture in the region where one grows up in become a bad thing? The success rates of the MAS program should be reason enough to leave it in place.
03:21 AM on 04/27/2011
"Even in political agendas and in propaganda there is critical thinking. The teaching of history with an emphasis on critical thinking, which is what these kinds of classes mostly aim to do, challenges students to think for themselves so they can discern the validity of truthful texts versus propaganda with a critical eye."

Which is why, despite the blatant political views promoted, I support them. They also teach students the means to come to their own conclusions, which are always stronger than pre-programmed positions in the curriculum.

"I would agree with you though that encouragin­g partisan perspectiv­es is not a good educationa­l model; having myself taken about 10 university level courses in cultural studies I can assure you that's not what is going on here."

I haven't taken any at University level. As such, I can't judge the content of those courses one way or the other. The only group I can comment on is TUSD Raza studies.

"What we have here is an attack on good education."

Precisely. Look up the other recent events in TUSD, particularly the travesties at Rincon and Palo Verde High Schools, and I honestly think this is all somehow connected. /tinfoilhat
03:22 AM on 04/27/2011
"Since when has the teaching of an important culture in the region where one grows up in become a bad thing? The success rates of the MAS program should be reason enough to leave it in place."

I need to actually see a study proving those success rates, as I haven't found any peer-reviewed studies on the subject yet, but certainly, it is important to teach the culture. The only problem is that, as with all cultural education, there's a fine line that may veer into teaching that cultures superiority to others, if one isn't careful.
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ZaneDavid
03:10 PM on 04/26/2011
Okay - Help me understand this..."the bizarre HB2281 bans any school program that advocates the overthrow of the government" is a bad thing?
FoundersFan
right = correct
03:29 PM on 04/26/2011
Yep, that is weird, isn't it? lol
04:32 PM on 04/26/2011
It implies the MAS programs "advocate the overthrow of the government", which, of course, they do not. It's ban in search of some activity that does not exist.