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Posted: 12/30/11 08:33 PM ET

Watching the remarkable Xeni Jardin tweet her mammogram and cancer diagnosis, then blog eloquently about it, then crowdsource opening up her own MRI data makes me ask: Why are we so secretive about sickness and health? And what do we lose because we are?

The answers to the first questions are fairly obvious. First, we keep our sicknesses secret, we say, because we fear we could lose insurance. Except insurance companies force us to reveal our medical histories anyway. And let's hope that Obamacare -- may it survive the Supreme Court -- succeeds in outlawing the denial of health coverage due to preexisting conditions. Next, we fear that we could lose jobs. Except in cases where a condition would affect job safety, shouldn't employers be told that they cannot discriminate on the basis of health? Whether or not society chooses to address these issues through legislation, my point is that it's possible to do so.

The other reason we keep sickness secret -- the bigger reason -- is stigma. We don't want people to know we're ill. But in this day and age, why should anyone be ashamed of being sick? To be clear, I am not saying that anyone should ever be forced to reveal health information. But why should our norms, stigmas, and economic considerations force us not to reveal it?

Imagine if we didn't feel compelled to hide our illnesses. Imagine if we could be open about our health. What good could come of that?

We could learn more about correlations, which could yield information about causation and even cures. Given large data sets, we could find out that people who get a disease share common behaviors or characteristics. We might gain the opportunity to discover an environmental cause to a local outbreak of, say, breast cancer, enabling a community to fix the condition and prevent more cases.

Of course, I want to emphasize the conditional: correlation *could* help. One data point is never meaningful: That I've contracted one heart condition and two cancers since being at the World Trade Center on 9/11 is meaningless -- unless there are many others in the same boat, and even then, one mustn't jump to conclusions about causation. Still, more data is always better than less.

With openness about health, we could do a better job connecting people who share conditions to get information and support and each other. I am on the board of Learning Ally, formerly Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic, and at our last meeting, I was struck by the barriers that stigmas put in the way of young people getting the organization's help. I heard how getting our software on iPods has helped more kids use the service because they no longer have to carry around a special device that marks them as different -- stigma. I heard a mother say that school officials warned her that her child would be labeled -- stigma -- if she got him appropriate services, but she said she'd eagerly embrace the label if it got her son the help he needed.

On my blog, I've been in a debate about the recommendation by a government panel that men shouldn't be given the blood test for prostate cancer anymore because, statistically, it hasn't been shown to save lives. That's because medical science can't yet distinguish between fast- and slow-growing prostate cancer. I say men should get the test. I say we should be talking openly about our prostates as women have fought to talk about breast cancer. More information and communication is always better than less.

The real question is what men choose to do when they find out -- through a biopsy following the blood test -- that they have cancer. Perhaps more men should choose what the doctors call watchful waiting over surgery. But, you see, the problem is that we don't have *enough* data to make a good decision. I want to know, based on the largest possible population, how long it took prostate cancer to spread after it was found. Then I could decide how long to watch and wait. But I don't have that information. So I chose to get the cancer out of me. I could make that choice only because I had the test. I had my own data. If I had the data of millions more men, I could make wiser decisions.

How could get get more data?

Step one is to encourage men to talk about their prostates -- and, yes, sorry, their penises -- so we disarm the stigma about it and get more men to be aware and get tested and share their experience.

Step two is to create the means to open up and share as much health information as possible so researchers, doctors, and hackers can dig into it and find correlations and patterns and questions worth pursuing, perhaps leading to answers.

When I talk about the principles of an open society in Public Parts, this is what I mean. Rather than reflexively declaring that sharing information about ourselves -- our bodies as well as our thoughts and actions -- is dangerous, we must stand back and ask what benefit could come from such data, now that we have better technological means to open it up, gather it, and analyze it.

Only then can we balance the benefits and risks and decide, as a society, how open we want to be, how open we should and need to be -- and why. That is the kind of discussion about privacy and our changing norms I'd like to hear. Let's not just talk about what can go wrong now but also what could go right.

SOME ADDED LINKS:
* Larry Smarr quantifying his own health.
* On being a medical data donor.
* Give us access to our own health data, online.

 
 
 

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01:16 PM on 01/09/2012
Re this statement: "Except in cases where a condition would affect job safety, shouldn't employers be told that they cannot discriminate on the basis of health? Whether or not society chooses to address these issues through legislation, my point is that it's possible to do so."

Actually, it is illegal right now, under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), for employers with more than 15 employees to discriminate against an employee or applicant because the person has a physical or mental impairment -- as long as that impairment is not BOTH temporary (lasting 6 months or less) AND minor. That's the change Congress made in the Americans with Disabilities Act Amendments Act of 2008 (ADAAA). You can get info about this at www.eeoc.gov, as well as at www.archiveada.org. I also tweet about cases and settlements from the EEOC that is ensuring this law is being well enforced. follow @chaifeldblum or friend on FB at Commissioner Chai R. Feldblum
nancynancy
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03:05 PM on 01/07/2012
Don't fall for the sophistry of the author's argument. Big Pharma is foaming at the mouth over the prospect of getting hold of your medical history and genetic profile. Why? So they can bombard you night and day with ads for every pill and potion they can dream up to bankrupt you and your family.
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waldopepper
I'd tell you all about me if you were my friend.
03:49 AM on 01/03/2012
To simulate a youthful healthy appearance people do countless things to enhance their appearance.
I should have thought that you could have answered your own rhetorical question with such examples. If people are concerned enough to hide some mere gray hairs how ghastly and image shattering it must be to reveal their illness to the world.

That's why people prefer to keep such things private. Because the rest of us will treat them differently.
07:20 PM on 01/02/2012
You seem to realize how flawed PSA is as a biomarker. But if you're implying we have insufficient data about PSA, you're wrong: it has been studied in sufficient magnitude to render the public health recommendations valid. But more is NOT always better -- we're not lacking *quantity* of information but *granularity.* Note I said "public health recommendations." That's because, as you point out, nobody can tell YOU with great certainty if YOUR prostate is going to go slowly, quickly or not at all. I advise all men to remember the "I" in "ROI:" there *is* harm in unnecessary treatment. Men suffer a lot of side effects in exchange for peace of mind when there was nothing to fear in the first place -- statistically speaking, of course!
11:43 AM on 01/01/2012
It seems to matter a lot when one is choosing with whom to reproduce. Since most illness has genetic components, knowledge of the health of the prospective mate and his/her blood relatives can mean a lot.
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Cory Jack
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07:55 PM on 12/31/2011
In an ideal world, illness wouldn't be hidden. But it's not an ideal world.

People with chronic pain are looked down upon like "drug addicts," people with HIV are seen as "immoral," and people with lung cancer are "irresponsible smokers."

And it's also a sexist world. Erectile dysfunction is seen as something to be treated, while at the same time people want to outlaw birth control and abortion in many circles.

Not to mention the things people think about certain groups just because of ethnicity, meaning health stereotypes about Native Americans, African Americans, et. al.

After how many years in our country's history have things changed? It's mitigated a BIT. But a bit doesn't really amount to much. This country won't even acknowledge the fact that years of slavery has effects we see today on the poverty and social power level of African Americans.

It's not an ideal world. It's a world run by rich, straight, Protestant, white men. Not acknowledging that fact and changing things in that realm is the real disease.

Addressing our inability to talk openly about physical disease is a symptom. And merely treating the symptoms without acknowledging the disease is not the beginning of real healing.
12:31 AM on 01/01/2012
And so many of those "rich, straight, Protestant­, white men" are getting pc and other diseases that 'should' soften them to their very human condition. But they mostly remain firmly in denial of their membership in that club...
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11:33 AM on 01/02/2012
Cory,
Yes, that's what I'm getting at: the problem here is with society's prejudices and injustices. That's why we make our health secret. Those are the problems to solve. Can we? Well, that's an entirely different question. But we do change norms and fight stigmas one by one. We talk about breast cancer. One can go to a shrink without being banished as insane (in New York, at least). We don't put lepers on islands anymore...
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Cory Jack
Turning Texas Blue: GO NEWT!
07:50 PM on 01/02/2012
ah true.
06:43 PM on 12/31/2011
If we could generate false identities for ourselves and attach real information to them, openness would be easier. We each need to become multiple public selves.
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11:34 AM on 01/02/2012
Except then we'd give up the value of support from other people. Because I was open about my prostate cancer on my blog, friends who had the operation came forward to support me. If I hadn't been public, they wouldn't have known that and I'd have missed their very valuable support.
01:58 PM on 01/02/2012
But have those people come out publicly to share their story? This kind of information, stigma and social mores aside, can be something that is intensely private or at most, shared with trusted friends. What you aim for in this piece about openness in health isn't about sharing your health information with the world; it's sharing it with the right people that ultimately help you and others out. You advocate the "spray and pray" approach to data, when what is needed isn't *more* data, it's the *right* data in the *right* places to the *right* people. You told the world you had prostate cancer. The world didn't need to know it, only the
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06:28 PM on 12/31/2011
Have you ever been with a family member who went on and on about his/her illness until your eyes glazed over? That's one of the reasons many of us don't feel comfortable with divulging our aches and pains or illnesses. Another is that some things are simply private. Encouraging women and men to get mammograms and self-examine is vastly different from listening to the details of a biopsy or a breast removal. The famous who went public with HIV diagnoses encouraged others to get help; however, the average person revealing his/her status does nothing. The privacy issue is of great concern to me. It's my body and my business re what's wrong with it.
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09:41 PM on 12/31/2011
Too funny! When my girlfriend and I were in our twenties, we vacationed in FL and while sitting at the pool, listened to the elderly people around us describing their various ailments and illnesses. It was so graphic and nauseating that we made a pact to refrain from doing that even if we lived to be a hundred.
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11:19 PM on 12/31/2011
At 66, I guess I am "elderly" but I lived through enough of those conversations with my own relatives that I realized quite quickly that it was an abomination! I've been castigated for keeping my own counsel about any illness but, geez, who wants to hear that stuff? Yuck!
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11:36 AM on 01/02/2012
Oh, no, I disagree: i have seen remarkable instances of "average people" who've talked about their ailments online to very good end.
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02:01 PM on 01/02/2012
I've seen those comments too and right here on HuffPo. Inevitably, they all turn into "my tumor was larger and more serious than your tumor." It's disgusting!
noahmarder
Exposing the regressive lies, one by one
06:01 PM on 12/31/2011
Our government does virtually nothing to enforce the Americans with Disabilities Act. Employers (and seemingly everyone else) WILL discriminate against people with health problems. From a financial standpoint, unless you plan on making a lot of money through sharing information about your health problems, you are better off keeping them to yourself. More people sharing information won't fix the problem either; it will just make the discrimination more efficient. This is all a product of corporation owned government, as the corporations have the most to gain from being allowed to discriminate.
05:40 PM on 12/31/2011
One reason is that most people don't chose to get fired or evicted via misuse of that information. Maybe your personal desires are different, however.
05:26 PM on 12/31/2011
I remember as a kid (I'm 50 now) that people didn't speak of cancer. If they did, they whispered it. The more curable cancer gets and the more emotionally mature our society is about cancer, it is now common to talk about. Yet when someone has a serious illness like cancer, we also seem to pull away just when someone needs us most. Maybe we're feeling awkward about what to say or unsure if we should even bring it up. And maybe facing someone else's mortality is just too much of a wake up call since we tend to prefer to spend most of our time denying we will one day run out of time. When someone is struggling with life threatening illness, they need us the most. Maybe we need more enlightened professionals to teach us how to talk to those who are dealing with a serious or life threatening illness.
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11:37 AM on 01/02/2012
Wonderfully said.
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04:36 PM on 12/31/2011
We may as well admit our medical industrial society is getting geared to be the research center for the world, with our expensive insurance coverage, pharmaceuticals and equipment funding it. It appears the goal of conservative politicans is to make just enough coverage available to keep the research and care for the rich going.
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Cory Jack
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07:59 PM on 12/31/2011
Well said.
03:08 PM on 12/31/2011
Currently, health care is just another wedge issue that corporate interests can use to manipulate our politics: "Death Panels". They're working hard to keep us ignorant and separated and afraid.

What they fear, and what we need is clear headed, public conversation and debate of these issues without the fear mongering and political partisanship. Public, open aggregation of medical information will drive this. We'll finally know what's working and what isn't without it being used as a commercial for Big Pharma.

Oh, yeah, keep the profit motive out of it. The data needs to be independent of the commercial interests of not just Corporate Pharma but the AMA and Health Unions as well.

At a time when an entire life's worth of medial data can be stored on a microchip implanted under your skin, it only makes sense that we move towards a more open society. I hope this same openness drives the rest of our political issues. It's too late to live in fear of our aggregate selves.
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03:38 PM on 12/31/2011
BOGUS. Your doctor can Easily do simple data collection and forwarding without wholesaling information to data centers. All doctors used to do this. If you want to spread your legs by sending YOUR data to some anonymous data center then YOU do that and stop hyping for the rest of us to do the same just because you believe in the 'ama' and the angelic goodness of government.
06:36 PM on 12/31/2011
I don't believe in the "angelic goodness" of anyone. Thought my reference to the AMA and other interested parties made that clear. And, yes the CDC and other agencies have been collecting stats as long as they've been around. And my Primary already has access to every medical record I have regardless of provider, so it's already collected and on line. So basically, the deed's already done.
08:10 PM on 12/31/2011
My first reply hasn't been posted, so I'll try again.

I don't believe in the 'angelic goodness' of anyone. I thought I made that clear. And, yes, the CDC and various other agencies already collect and aggregate medical information. And I know my Dr. has online access to every medical record I have regardless of provider, so the collecting and sharing of this information is already a given.

I still agree with the author's point that, as a society, we need to see the value of this. And we also need to eliminate the possibilities of discrimination and profiting from this information.
03:03 PM on 12/31/2011
That information is my private business, it is limited to my family and my doctor. No, I am not ashamed, or afraid, it is just that I have a real sense of what I want to share with the public and what I don't.
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03:35 PM on 12/31/2011
Yep. See my post below.
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09:06 PM on 12/31/2011
I'm with you.

Privacy is the right of patients. We should respect it.
You want data? Do a study.
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02:58 PM on 12/31/2011
Many people are extremely uncomfortable with Obama's ripoff of our private health data. This piece is flaring to justify it. Fail. - Ron Paul for health record privacy, '12.