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Mitt Romney's 47 Percent Remarks: Wrong on the Facts, Not Just the Rhetoric

Posted: 09/18/2012 3:22 pm

Mitt Romney's "off-the-cuff" remarks that nearly half of Americans are "dependent" on government and believe they are "victims" who are "entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to-you-name-it,"  were widely publicized. This is in fact old saw for a certain kind of anti-government conservative. I have given talks deep in conservative territory where courteous memebers of the audience would come up to me afterwards and say they agree we should pay taxes for infrastructure but not for giveaways "to those people."

But coming from a presidential candidate of one of the major parties, such remarks are stunning. Moreover, Romney later claimed he stood by them. He insulted half the American people; at least the people who spoke to me were talking about perhaps only one quarter of them! Romney also used the once-ubiquitous claim by conservatives that only half of Americans pay income tax. 

There was widespread criticism of Romney's rhetoric, but the stronger case against his condescending and elitist remarks is to present the facts, of which he seems happily unaware. Fortunately, the Tax Policy Center and the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities have pointed out that the large majority of Americans pay federal taxes when payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare are included. The only Americans who don't pay taxes are some of the elderly, the poor, and the young.
       
But it is the dependency issue that requires real information. Income for the lower half of American earners has been growing very slowly since the late 1970s -- more or less when Ronald Reagan took office. Compared to economies overseas, the wage performance has been just plain bad. 
        
Why? The declines of unions, the refusal to raise the minimum wage with inflation, and the increased pressure by Wall Street to minimize expenses in the short run -- typically labor expenses -- have all contributed. So have rapidly lost manufacturing jobs and globalization in general. Finally, on average economic growth was slow in the 1980s until the mid-1990s. Only in the late 1990s did growth push the unemployment rate down adequately to boost incomes for the lower half. In the 2000s, we had adequate growth but little job or wage growth. Without social programs like the Earned Income Tax Credit, the lower half would have hardly seen incomes grow at all.
      
Was dependency a cause of low incomes? This is easily refuted nonsense. Had social programs hurt rather than helped Americans, poverty rates would have been low in the 1950s. As Michael Harrington alerted America, the poverty rate was probably 30 percent in the 1950s. Finally, the U.S. government computed a poverty line -- a low one, mind you. It found the poverty rate at about 22 percent. 
      
Why? Couldn't have been dependency. The War on Poverty had not yet begun. By the 1970s, however, the poverty rate was down to 11 percent. As Social Security expanded, elderly poverty rates fell from 50 percent to about 10 percent. And so on. These are the purposes of government, Mitt.
      
On our Rediscovering Government website you can find a set of charts and an important summary paper by Lane Kenworthy on this issue.
Cross-posted from Next New Deal.
 
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11:22 AM on 09/19/2012
For working people the economy has been in recession since 1973.
The GOP and the rich corporatra¬tists have made a mess of everything¬.
1. Before 1973, The inflation Adjusted Median Income rose at 2.5% per year:

1953 = $22,648
1973 = $34,762

2. From 1973 to 2009, Inflation Adjusted Median Income fell by $2,578.

1973 = $34,762
2009 = $32,184

http://www¬.census.go¬v/hhes/www¬/income/da¬ta/histori¬cal/people¬/P05AR_200¬9.xls

3. The same thing shows up in Weekly Earnings.

All earners:

1979 = $339
2008 = $339

No Change over 30 years

Men:

1979 = $412
2010 = $389

DECREASE of $23/week

http://dat¬a.bls.gov/¬cgi-bin/su¬rveymost?l¬e

4. While per capita GPD has doubled:

1969 = $21,021
2010 = $42,517

http://www¬.ers.usda.¬gov/data/m¬acroeconom¬ics/Data/H¬istorical¬RealPerCa¬p¬itaIncom¬eV¬alues.x¬ls

5. This is accomplish by shifting the income distributi¬on:

Share Of Aggregate Income by Quintile:

BOTTOM 20% - 1967: 4.0% 2009: 3.4% Change: -0.6%
LOWER MIDDLE - 1967: 10.8% 2009: 8.6% Change: -2.2%
MIDDLE CLASS - 1967: 17.3% 2009: 14.6% Change: -2.7%
UPPER MIDDLE - 1967: 24.2% 2009: 23.2% Change: -1.0%
UPPER CLASS - 1967: 43.6% 2009: 50.3% Change: +6.7%

http://www¬.census.go¬v/hhes/www¬/income/da¬ta/histori¬cal/inequa¬lity/H02AR¬_2009.xls

Bottom line message: WORK MORE, PRODUCE MORE, BUT GET LESS”
11:02 AM on 09/19/2012
Mitt was right on and I am glad he is standing by his statement...

When obama loses the new "excuse" or reason will be the voter ID laws..

I hear the lawsuits ramping up already..
11:23 AM on 09/19/2012
I see your fan count and your IQ are the same!
11:49 AM on 09/19/2012
I guess we'll find out if Mitt was "right on" in November or right off his rocker. Facts are terrible things to some people. They challenge their deeply held fantasies about how the world works. As for voter ID laws, leave it for "small government conservatives" to legislate a problem away that doesn't exist! Small government indeed!
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09:55 AM on 09/19/2012
So where is the story about Obama's taped remarks about his favoring income re-distribution? After all, didn't he tell the Russian VP that as comrades, he'll have more flexibility after he's re-elected?

Obama the socialist vs. Romney the capitalist.

That's what this election is coming down to. The question is, are there more socialists in America now than there are capitalists?

Who would have thought years ago to even pose the question.
11:24 AM on 09/19/2012
Any smart person!
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06:40 PM on 09/19/2012
So you're against capitalism, then?

You know, there are 175 other countries who have less capitalism. Why don't you relocate to one of them?
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09:56 AM on 09/21/2012
That leaves you out.
12:30 PM on 09/19/2012
You should be worried about your republican comrades then, because they support socialism all around the country.

Fire department
education
police
social security
medicare
roads
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Platinumputter
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06:39 PM on 09/19/2012
Comrade pbr56: That isn't socialism. Look it up!

Good Grief!
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06:30 PM on 09/20/2012
What programs/policies can I cite that proves Obama is a socialist?

For starters, I can take present as exhibit A his very own words that have appeared on the news the last two days, that he is in favor of re-distribution of wealth and income. Actually, that borders more on communism than socialism.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/09/19/obama_and_redistribution_the_shocking_ad_that_proves_he_favors_it_.html
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Mark Smerkanich
keep your wheels movin'
09:44 AM on 09/19/2012
If ignorance is bliss, then Mitt is a happy guy!

I wonder at what point he said to himself: I'd make a good president?

Send in the clown. Don't bother, he's here...
07:05 AM on 09/19/2012
The realities now are that unless the vote can be manipulated by voter ID or voting machines, the Democratic Party should and must win. Please vote.
03:38 AM on 09/19/2012
Wow! Not long ago most republicans counted Mitt as their last choice and now that they're stuck with him, they defend his ignorance like he was family. He got caught spewing just how he really feels about the regular folks and now they want it to sound socially acceptable to have such low regard for half of America. Well it's still sounds like pure snobbery mixed with ignorance and convenient twisting of facts to fit his point of view. I mean, really. Trying to defend his indefensible point of view and make it sound alright is stooping to a new low. Except for Rush. I expect this type of bs from that windbag.
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scholasticus
I don't have to believe your "-ism".
12:38 PM on 09/19/2012
John Galt has come to life and is running for Prez!
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bgreen152
Vote out the Anti American Republicans
02:22 AM on 09/19/2012
Tricky Mit Robme the special interest candidate. I am looking forward to seeing this Un American fraud get throughly trounced in Nov. Maybe then he'll go away
11:27 AM on 09/19/2012
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12:35 AM on 09/19/2012
Poverty rates were coming down long before welfare. Since welfare poverty rates have stagnated. Under Obama poverty has increased, and is the highest in decades. Food stamps up 70% welfare up 40%, 27 million unemployed or under employed. $16 trillion in debt one out of two American on some kind of government aid. We've lost 39% of our net worth under Obama and over $4000 average in annual income. The future looks bleak. Half the college grads can't find jobs. Now we have failed foreign policies. The middle east is on fire and where is our so caller President? His lack of executive experience and leadership speaks for itself . Romney can fix this if we all vote him in to do so. If we don't say good-bye America.
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01:18 AM on 09/19/2012
Romney can't even fix his campaign, let alone the country. It's not so much your pathetic candidate, but the failure of the party and conservativism.
10:16 AM on 09/20/2012
I think he is doing very well considering the main stream is so in love with Obama they attack Romney everyday and fail to report any of Obama gaffs or his massive failure on jobs, the economy and debt. Obama lack of executive or leadership experience speaks for itself by his failed domestic and now foreign policies.
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
02:11 AM on 09/19/2012
Were you visiting another planet during the Wall Street derivatives crash in the fall of 2008? That's where people's money went. Pensions, school savings, etc. -- all gobbled up by greedy brokers who sold bad debts to each other, repackaged them as great investments and sold them to retirees, company pension plans, towns and cities. And enough banks and governments around the world to nearly bring on a second world depression. In Europe, hundreds of companies as well as government bureaucracies had to cut back, which meant that Chinese factories lost markets. In China, literally hundreds of thousands of workers found the factory doors locked and the owners gone with the last month's payroll.

And none of it was Obama's fault.
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Mark Smerkanich
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09:47 AM on 09/19/2012
True, but some people think everything can be fixed now! Really, 4 years with a horrible congress, it's amazing we are able to recover at all.
10:23 AM on 09/20/2012
The 2008 crash all started with congress and the feds bad policy that created a housing bubble that created bad investments bay banks the bubble burst and that cause the financial crisis. Is Bush at fault yes, so is Obama and the rest of Congress who supported the bad policy. Many of those policies started under Carter and were expanded under Clinton. Over the past decade Republican and Democrats acted the same on policy and spending. Thank goodness the people are waking up and voting out the bad guys. 2010 got rid of a few dozen and I am hoping 2012 get rid of even more establishment politicians who failed us big time the last couple decades.
12:31 AM on 09/19/2012
From the article: "Compared to economies overseas, the wage performance has been just plain bad. Why? The declines of unions, [...]"

Real wages are wages after taxes and inflation have been taken into account. There is general agreement that real wages have stagnated since the 1970s.

What is ignored is the correlation between the stagnation of real wages and the severing of the last ties of the dollar to the gold standard.

In 1913 the Federal Reserve was created and granted a government-enforced monopoly on bank-note issue. (Only the Fed was allowed to print pieces of paper ostensibly representing claims to money--i.e. gold.) By 1929, there were twice as many 'dollars' as there was gold it represented claims to. To save the big New York banks at the expense of the economy, FDR first devalued 'dollars' from $20 to $35 a troy ounce, and then in 1933, by executive order, outlawed the use of gold as money by U.S. citizens.

Gold was still money for bankers and governments, who could still theoretically redeem dollars for gold--until 1971. That's when Nixon, again by executive order, "closed the gold window." At this point there were four times as many 'dollars' as there was gold they supposedly represented claims to.

Unrestrained by the obligation to redeem dollars for gold, the supply of dollars has been skyrocketing ever since, eroding their purchasing power, and thus stagnating wages.

Jeff Madrick is simply lying about history.
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01:23 AM on 09/19/2012
I think you should look at the abundant statistical information the shows emphatically that since 1970, workers have been getting less and less of their share of the sky rocketing collective productivity of the country. The overwhelming percentage has gone to the top 1%, to the tune of a 280% increase as opposed to a mere 7% increase. Your "blame it on the monetary system" is a crock. Wages have stagnated because a concious choice was made to give them less, despite increased productivity [ie harder work] and those very same people decided to give themselves more. It's greed.
09:04 AM on 09/19/2012
"I think you should look at the abundant statistical information the shows emphatically that since 1970, workers have been getting less and less of their share of the sky rocketing collective productivity of the country."

Yes, that was my point. And indeed the so-called 1%, motivated by greed, have decided to give the people less--or, more accurately, take more from the people. The question is: How did they do this?

A tiny group of political and financial elite have asserted for themselves the exclusive privilege of creating money out of nothing. They have access to it. You don't. They get away with it because almost no one understands how banking and the monetary system works. What people think they know is usually wrong, and they are so brainwashed by propaganda and the desperate need to believe in the ultimate benevolence of their rulers that they actually think that this tiny elite weald this incredible power for the greater good.

“The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from its profits or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class.” - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild, 1744-1812

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." -- Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, May 28, 1816
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
02:14 AM on 09/19/2012
Why is a gold standard important? Gold is just a mineral. It has no intrinsic value other than being pretty and a good conductor of heat and electricity. And its price fluctuates wildly too.

The standard that paper money can be tied to can be ANYTHING of value, including other natural resources, manufacturing production, and the productivity of people.
08:40 AM on 09/19/2012
Well put. The value of the money should reflect the real worth (asset value) of the particular Nation. On that basis the USD should be the strongest currency in the world.

But you see, that would not suit the "market" (manipulating speculative bankers and currency traders) as they would no longer be able to sit at a keyboard and make billions at the expense of the bulk of the population.

Horrors upon horrors, those parasites might even then have to try to find a real job in the real world!
09:27 AM on 09/19/2012
Anything being used as a medium of exchange is being used as money. There are properties that make some things particularly well-suited to serve as money. These properties are: Portability, durability, fungibility, divisibility, and recognizeability. Most importantly, for something to serve well as money, it must have value in the marketplace independent of its function as money. This is why people have tended throughout history to use gold and silver as money when not forced by their rulers to use something else.

The bankers and the politicians hate gold and love paper dollars because to acquire the former, they must overtly tax people. To acquire the latter they simply print them. It is a form of theft that most people don't even recognize as theft.

Paper dollars are valuable in the market independent of their function as money because people are required to pay taxes with them or be put in jail and have their stuff taken away. Internationally, dollars are valuable because they are required when purchasing oil from any country under the thumb of the U.S. empire.

One last point: There is no such thing as 'intrinsic' economic value. All prices are ultimately derived from the subjective choices people make when they choose one thing and forego something else. For gold to serve as money, it doesn't matter whether you in particular value gold. All that matters is how likely you are to find someone else who does.
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11:43 PM on 09/18/2012
Romney was sucking up to donors, saying whatever it takes to make a buck. It's what he does, and who he is. How is that going to help create jobs for Americans?
01:36 AM on 09/19/2012
And you don't think BO sucks up to donors? Get real. BO is the biggest suck up around.
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...but on the other side, it didn't say nothing.
07:58 AM on 09/19/2012
Yes, but the donors Obama sucks up to seem to harbor some human emotions that he tries to appeal to.
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Romeover
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08:04 AM on 09/19/2012
If you don't want politicians to be suck-ups, work to change how our political system.

If you don't want politicians to suck up to voters, work to eliminating voting.

If you don't want politicians to suck up to campaign contributors, work to eliminate campaign contributions.
11:00 PM on 09/18/2012
People seem to forget that Romney has no experience at this - engaging the common man & woman. His opinions of the Middle Class are out in full view. but not just the Middle Class, as Romney & his crowd view us & the poor as on broad impediment to even great wealth for his exclusive class - b/c then, they don't have to share any of it. Excuse me Mr. Romney, but we've already had this discussion & the citizen majority won - we INVENTED America, as a result of having a duel to the death (the American Revolution). So now, instead of direct confrontation, conservatives do it by stealth & pit the Middle Class & poor against ourselves & each other. The confusion allowed conservatives to gain advantage b/c Americans were frightened into complicity all during the years Republicans were in office (1981-'92 & '01-'09) by the specter of demise & collapse. They were rite & by their own hands, brought it about. But in the 3 solid terms of Democratic Presidents over that same period, the Middle Class, poor & wealth ALL gained. So what's Romney talking about? Nothing, to put it simply. So lets all just ignore him & get our President & while we're at it - OURSELVES - back to work in repairing our nation & getting back in the business of 'prosperity for ALL' again!!!
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10:25 PM on 09/18/2012
Well, first off, I believe all Americans are entitled to food and shelter and basic health care. Otherwise we have no business calling ourselves one of the richest nations in the world.

If Rmoney wants to hold up paying Federal taxes as an example of entitled scoflaws, then he has only to look in the mirror.

He doesn't pay income tax. He pays tax on capital gains, which are NOT considered income and are taxed at a lower rate; 15%. With deductions he pays even less.

Now, how about releasing ALL of the tax returns, Willard?
12:39 AM on 09/19/2012
He paid the top rate of income tax when he worked. He is retired. He pay capitol gains on good investment if he invest and looses he does not pay. When he was Governor he did not take a salary also when he took over the Olympics he did not take a salary. He felt those were duty to his Country.
03:20 AM on 09/19/2012
I doubt it was owing to "his duty". More likely to fend off any inquiries regarding his wealth and true income. He's fortunate that he doesn't even need that income from his positions.
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08:04 AM on 09/19/2012
He never would have paid at the top rate- his compensation was considered capital gains under the carried interest rule.  Of course this is speculation, perhaps he eschewed that tax advantage and paid income taxes at the rate for ordinary income out his his patriotic duty- but there is no way of knowing this when he hasn't released any of his tax returns while he was working.  It is extremely unlikely that someone who has aggressively taken advantage of overseas tax shelters, and who as a member of the audit committee of the board of directors of Mariott approved the Son of Boss tax shelter which was rejected by the IRS as tax evasion rather than legal tax avoidance ( a decision upheld by appellate courts after Mariott's appeals) 

You simply assume things without any evidence to support your assumptions.
08:21 AM on 09/19/2012
miaiuppa, your first paragraph sums it up. A Nation can either feed, clothe, house and provide transport for its people or it cannot. If it can the distribution of the necessities of life should be simply a book keeping exercise. If it cannot, then the Nation can be described as Third World.

The New World nations strived above all else in their early years for self sufficiency. The self sufficiency has been sacrificed on the alter of "Globilisation" and Free Trade, whereby Koreans and Japanese make cars for Americans and Americans make cars for Koreans and Japanese. What nonsense that is.

The winners are the Mutli National Free Traders and the International Bankers that finance it all. The losers are the people.

Bernanke is about to go on another QE spree to the extent of $40 billion per month, but it is all allocated to his Banker mates and will be used to "buy" their "mortgage backed securities", more aptly described as "toxic assets". The money supply will expand, the Bankers till will be full again, but the consumer's pockets will still be empty.

Empty Pockets = no purchases = stagnant economy = no growth. Imagine the difference if the $40 billion per month expansion was directed into the economy in such a way as it finished in consumers pockets. Therin lies the problem.
09:29 PM on 09/18/2012
I certainly don't want to live in Romney World -- more like the 16th century than the 21rst. Or France before the Revolution. I've been reading Mary Chesnut's Civil War Diary, and it's a real turnaround -- the progressives are the Republicans!
12:43 AM on 09/19/2012
Actually the liberals now call themselves progressives like Hillary Clinton. Although there are a few progressives in the Republican party as well. That is a big part of the problem we face. Under Bush the republicans acted like progressive democrats and we got massive debt and regulation Now Obama is Bush on steroids. Romney/Ryan hopefully will be fiscally responsible and set the Country on the right track. Obama will push us over the cliff.
02:24 PM on 09/19/2012
Tell me how Obama has increased spending.

Our deficit is lower now then the 1.4 trillion dollar deficit that Bush left.
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06:19 PM on 09/18/2012
Also, Romney is wrong in stating those 47% are all going to vote for Obama?

The largest % of those people are in the south, and Romney is going to win all those states.

Most of those 53% in the other category? Blue states.

Simply look at which states are net takers from the Fed, virtually the entire south takes more money from the Fed then it takes in.

The blue states, just the reverse. My state of WA gets about 87 cents of Federal largesse and services for ever tax dollar we pay in, while Mississippi gets about $2.10 for every dollar?

Tells us again, Mitt, those victims of dependency, where are they and who are they going to vote for?
09:40 PM on 09/18/2012
Most of the states that take more fed money have native americans and military. That skews the numbers.
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Romeover
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08:06 AM on 09/19/2012
ROFL
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MovieGuy2010
You can't fight in here..this is the war room!
11:11 AM on 09/19/2012
BAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!

My state, WA states, has a HUGE military prescence, Joint Base Ft Lewis McChord, Bremerton Navel station, Coast Guard, etc....

How come WE get .82 cents per dollar, compared to ALL the southern states.

Also, NATIVE AMERICANS skew the numbers? Again, we in WA have 3-4 times the native American populations of places like Missisippi and South Carolina.

Wow, usually conservatives are just wrong, but that's not even close enough to BE wrong, it's just loony....
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06:14 PM on 09/18/2012
"Not paying taxes" usually refers to federal income taxes; not the other taxes we all pay.
Apparantly, nearly half of Americans pay no federal income taxes, or, if they do, they get the money back, so you point is misleading.
Obama and the Democrats go to millions of people who do not pay any federal income taxes and say, "The rich (who actually pay most of the taxes) should pay their "fair share;" they should pay more." What rot. Class warfare, pure and simple.
There is too much "need" out there. A lot of it (more than half?) is false; synthetic, created, preventable, and was avoidable. It is the result of many factors: Foolish lifestyle choices, drug use, producing children out of wedlock, adoption of the victim and entitlement mentalities, excuse making, lack of a work ethic, acceptance of the idea that it is the government's job to provide you with a cradle to grave living, i.e., the nanny state, and the liberal position that certain designated groups are not to be held accountable. Patronizing? Demeaning? Disgusting? Yes on all three, and all done for left-wing political profit.
We spend so much money on this false, avoidable need that we have little left for those who truly need our help-people who are physically or mentally unable to care for themselves and those who need temporary help. That's where the money should go; and not to those who shouldn't have needed it to begin with.
llwlknsn
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06:54 PM on 09/18/2012
So where are the jobs?
07:42 PM on 09/18/2012
Load of crap. Tax rates are at historical lows and so are tax receipts. Taxes on the wealthiest americans have never been lower. At the same time the wealthiest americans benefitted the most by the government efforts to stave of a depression. The Wall Street bailout and Quantitative Easing were give aways to the wealthiest americans who saw their share of this nations wealth increase while everyone else's decreased. The system they've bought and paid for favors them and your griping about the elderly, disabled and children from getting support from the government. It's noble of you to think the rich are getting the short end of the stick while Americans across the country go hungry.

No one's gonna deny that people make bad decisions, but what are you gonna do about it? Let them starve or steal? Watch their children go hungry. What about the people who no fault of their own lost everything in the housing crisis and ensuing recession? Let the churches deal with it? You're living in Romneyville.

Only about 18% of the population doesn't pay any taxes because they receive more in government assistance. Do you know who they are? More than half are elderly poor and disabled people. Another large percentage is children. So you have less than 8% who pay no taxes and receive govenment assistance- and they live in poverty- most of them don't stay on welfare.

You're confused with bias and full of disdain. Enough already.
09:42 PM on 09/18/2012
Spending is at all time highs and total tax rates are not at record lows.
12:20 PM on 09/19/2012
With corpoate tax rates higher than any other industrialized nation, I think we can agree that tax rates as a measure of revenue is fatuous at best. We are collecting 18% of GDP in taxes. GDP has not been growing at a rate to align with the increase in spending.
The result has been a rapid increase in the rate of borrowing, (long term debt to meet short term needs) in order to meet spending obligations. It's approaching 4 years now with no budget making it to mark up, and President Obama promised to cut the deficit by 50% by the end of his first term, or at the very least, to have a plan to do so. Increasing the top marginal rate, (the Buffet Plan) would yield 8-10 billion dollars per year, which wouldn't even fund the Department of Energy for 6 months.
EIC is definitely redistribution and a net consumption of tax dollars, and what's the percentage of people who collect that?
Increasing tax rates has NEVER increased tax revenue. In fact the opposite has occurred, going back to the Kennedy administration. Consider: 2025, SS and Medicare will consume 16-18% of GDP. 2035: Servicing debt will require 16-18% of GDP. Unless we do something to slow it down. Consider that by 2035, just to break even on servicing debt and SS and Medicare, nearly 40% of GDP will be requires.
We're already at 103% GDP to debt, and the trajectory is steepening, rapidly.