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Should the French Veil Ban Concern the West?

Posted: 05/17/10 05:39 PM ET

It is small piece of cloth, known as burqa or niqab, covering the faces of nearly 2,000 veiled women in a population of five million Muslims in France. Yet it has been contested and debated extensively by French lawmakers, the parliament, and President Nicolas Sarkozy. Just last Tuesday a French resolution was passed by a vote of 434 to 0, banning burqa wearing in public. Is this contested burqa debate really about the "liberation of women," as President Sarkozy claims, or an infringement on their rights?

As an Arab-American Muslim woman, I personally don't wear the veil. I certainly would not wear a burqa or niqab. However, I respect people's choices whether they wear a niqab or pierce their body.

But I understand how much our world has changed post 9/11, where Muslims have become more scrutinized and negatively stereotyped as radicals and sometimes "terrorists." This has also ignited worries in Europe that its three-percent Muslim population are determined to transform their once-tolerant continent into Eurabia, a land where the sharia or Islamic law reigns. But let's not forget that the majority of Muslims are not radical. However, discriminating against them in various forms that infringe on their supposedly guaranteed freedom could radicalize some of them.

Telling Muslims in France -- the largest Muslim population in Western Europe -- that the burqa-style veil is regressive and, as Justice Minister Michele Alliot-Marie describes it, "harms the liberty of women" who actually choose to wear it, can be seen as a form of cultural supremacy, which only deepens the divide between both worlds.

When France, a former colonizer of parts of the Muslim world like North Africa, bans the veiling of the face, this only gives ammunition to Muslim fanatics and militants to divide the remaining moderate Muslims worldwide and conquer the West. These fanatics argue the West is out to get them and erase their identity in various forms, from invading their lands as multinational forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc., to banning the construction of Islamic minarets in Switzerland, to a Belgian resolution banning face-covering veils. Such views are radicalizing some moderate Muslims in an atmosphere where Europe and the West in general are morphing slowly into the ultimate battleground for a clash of civilizations.

Being part of the West, Americans should be concerned about the ramifications of this French ban on face veiling. We are still trying to get over 9/11. The recent Times Square bomb scare orchestrated by a Pakistani-American also reminds us of the never-ending threats from individuals, as well as and sleeping cells, in addition to Al-Qaeda itself.

In order for us to win the battle against radical Islam, the West needs to stick to the democratic values of liberty, equality, and freedom for all. We cannot compromise those values as a result of few militant Muslims' manipulation of religion or use of the burqa and niqab as a cover to commit crimes. We need to build bridges with Muslim men and women by showing them our genuine embrace of multiculturalism. We need to show respect instead of condescending remarks on religious practices that we don't buy but are considered intrinsically part of the cultural fabric of few conservative Muslims who willingly choose to follow them.

While I am not a veil advocate, I made The Colors of Veil, a short documentary on Kimberly King, former US soldier who embraced Islam, rose above societal discrimination to eventually transform her community through her interfaith work. The film won Link TV-One Nation Many Voices Award for best documentary on American-Muslim women. It was popular at many film festivals and was positively featured in the media, including NPR. It allowed Americans to understand and become touched by Kimberly King as a person beyond the veil. We need to support and nurture attempts that allow cultural and religious understanding instead of becoming fixated on changing those who are different from us, just because we believe our way is better.

The French resolution to ban face-covering veils has yet to become a law, but it may not pass constitutional muster in France or in European forums. The Council of Europe, a 47-nation human rights institution, will discuss the burqa issue next month. A Council of Europe commission already said the French ban robs women of their freedom of expression, potentially violating their religious freedoms. The same commission is urging Switzerland to end its ban on the construction of Islamic minarets.

 

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Michael Hughes
Foreign policy analyst
04:59 AM on 05/23/2010
"...determined to transform their once-tolerant continent into Eurabia, a land where the sharia or Islamic law reigns." Well done.
I agree with your concern about cultural supremacy. Not only from an intellectual freethinking standpoint do I think this ban is absurd, there is something deep down in my gut that says it's wrong. Why would someone even think of making such a law?
Another interesting angle was put forth by none other than Christopher Hitchens in a Slate article entitled "In Your Face" http://www.slate.com/id/2253493/
Granted, Hitchens would rather slit his own throat than defend anything related to religion - yet he posits an angle I hadn't considered. He is claiming that one isn't allowed to walk around society with a mask (especially into places like banks – the example the snide s.o.b. used). I don't know if there is such a law in U.S. or elsewhere. Can I walk down the street with a ski mask? One commenter on my article said it differs by state and goes back to the days of the KKK.
Regardless, he argues wer're making an exception to law because of religion by allowing burqas. Yet, I think he's using a technicality and working backwards to support an emotional response triggered by the concept of the burqa. Another more practical question is then raised: Can you imagine the amount of fines that will be levied come Halloween?
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SF TKF
Cthulhu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
11:13 AM on 05/20/2010
Let's think about this logically: we would never tolerate a man saying that his religion required him to wear a ski mask in public. So why do we say it’s ok for a woman to walk around effectively in disguise?
01:41 AM on 05/20/2010
Simply put, in the effort to preserve European Identiy, Europe is willing to overstep on its core values.
I dont like th nikab, however, all the arguments for security and protecting women are trying to hide the fear of the invasion of the North Africans into France.....
02:10 AM on 05/20/2010
you may be right but here's a perspective...a person in yr neighborhood whose face u can't and will not see...I do live in such a place and it scares my kids....
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
11:25 PM on 05/18/2010
OH my goodness, to prefer that someone who comes to your country conduct themselves according to your standards is cultural bias? put me in a tizzy!! I must side with the comments here that wonder " if you want everything to be just like it was in the old country why'd you come here? " OH!! stay the same except make a lot more money...... Why is it that western Europan or American culture isn't supposed to be allowed to favor its own traditions in its own place. It is not unreasonable to assume a correlaton between western cultural values and western economic and technical accomplishments. You don't like it? stay HOME!
Should western nations work harder at providing ways to integrate the immigrant? Might be a useful thing to do, but even biblical strictures about kindness to the stranger amongst you do not require that you conform to the stranger's customs in your own land
10:56 PM on 05/18/2010
The Council of Europe is not a human rights institution. It is an organization working towards European integration. While it has an emphasis on legal standards, human rights and rule of law the primary focus is not on human rights. The Council of Europe simply wants all of Europe to have the same legal and democratic structure, to strip away nationalities so that European countries are countries in name only.
09:31 PM on 05/18/2010
Note to would-be convenience store robbers-you have to take off your motorcycle helmet. Ladies, take off the burqa, and remove it for the police officer and to check your photo ID, and, and. Oh just get rid of the stupid thing.
04:06 PM on 05/18/2010
If you want to remain in the 5th century, that is fine; but you must stay in a place where it is still the 5th century. If you come to ANOTHER country, you cannot impose all your customs on that place and its people; if you want to keep them all intact, stay where you were. What possible interest would you have in coming to such an awful place like France or the US? Like it or not, the burqa makes a huge statement about women and their "place"--and all the things that go with it, like not being able to go out without a male relative, not driving a car, or even being property. You can't just take a "little" of the burqa.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
02:59 PM on 05/18/2010
The human rights issue is not the veil, per se, but the choices that go with it. If I drive a car, my vision needs to be unimpeded; a veil does impede vision, so a woman must choose between driving and veiling. To ban the veil totally is wrong, but to limit its use for public safety is not.
06:34 AM on 05/19/2010
To ban the veil totally is right, as it is now an ever-present safety issue. Daily I read stories of men dressing up in burqas to rob others. Burqa-wearing female suicide bombers are now surpass crazy men as a terrorist threat. Indeed, in Afghanistan girls are being kidnapped, gagged (how would you see it with the veil?), strapped down with enough explosives to blow up an entire house, and left in public. Recently in Iraq a female suicide bomber killed 38 people and wounded hundreds others.
I would like to point out that there is no such thing as an Islamic Terroist, as much as the media and our politicians tell us it is so. You see, the Qur'an tells us that once someone has intentionally killed an innocent victim, that person is no longer Muslim. That the burqa/niqab are used as terrorist vehicles should tell you that they are definitely NOT religious symbols, they are not instruments of freedom, and there is no evidence to suggest that they are a choice. They are harmful and they should be banned.
02:36 PM on 05/18/2010
Many of the comments miss the point of this article, particularly the woman who wrote that the burqa is oppressive. In my opinion this comment was a type of cultural bias. For many, the burqa is liberating and is a choice, much like the so-called "choice" of abortion. The burqa liberates women from the pressures to conform to "western" ideals of beauty, dictated by a corporate monoculture. It is, in a way, a revolutionary reaction against this perceived culture of decadence. I have yet meet an Islamic woman who was "forced" in Europe or America to wear a burqa; on the contrary this is their choice and a statement of their own chosen identity, not some identity chosen for them by Madison Avenue.
03:39 PM on 05/18/2010
I am confused. If the burqa "liberates women from the pressures to conform to "western" ideals of beauty", why is it most prominent in Islamic countries?
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Andrew Joseph Mumford
06:44 PM on 05/18/2010
Because unlike in Iran and Saudi Arabia, in the West woman can choose not to wear it if they choose to wear it, it is their choice.
10:17 PM on 05/19/2010
If you read my comment carefully, I only mentioned Europe and America. I didn't mention countries like Saudi Arabia or Iran, where wearing the burqa is a completely different issue and, yes, is sometimes (not all the time) forced upon women. The issue at hand is one of women in France wearing the burqa. I guess my other point is that the concept of "liberation" is subjective; be careful about judging a book by its cover (burqa). It may come to a surprise to many western women that their concept of "liberation" is neither desired or admired by many women in the Islamic world. Power comes from within, not from wearing a skirt and makeup.
02:14 AM on 05/20/2010
you sir/madam speak thru yr A$$.....I'd like to see the persons face around me....thats non negotiable
10:38 PM on 05/20/2010
Thank-you for your crude comment. Speaking of not seeing a person's face - why is it that you don't put your photo on your profile? Your non-negotiable principle apparently extends to others but not yourself.
01:27 PM on 05/18/2010
Everyone keeps talking about the women being repressed or forced to wear it. That really should not matter to anyone outside of their culture. Do we cry foul when orthodox jews segregate men and women? Yes some do, but most of us realize they won't if they didn't want to. There is no sharia police to nab them.

We need to focus on the security threat, not specifically from mulsims, but from anyone who wisheds to conceal their identity in public places. That shuld be the core issue. Using the reasons currently being spoken about in the French government, there is agood chance it could befound unconstitutional, as forced repression of religion. Talk only about the national and local security about hiding your identity, regardless of your religion is much stronger internationally. I don't know about french law, but the US has laws about wearing maskes in public. Most jurisdictions have actual laws that prohibit it. You cannot walk into a bank in a ski mask ir wearing a bandana tied around your face. Since the Quoran does not demand it and the majority of mulsim women do not, it cannot be claimed as a religious requirement, its mearly a custom.
12:52 PM on 05/18/2010
As another poster pointed out, the question the artical misses is: "Do these women really CHOOSE to wear the burqa?" It is essentially a statement of submission; few humans knowingly choose to submit to what is essentially a second-class status.

But equally disturbing is the Christian doctrine of women submitting to their husbands in all things. It doesn't take a veil to push women into second-class citizenship, but religion in general is very good at doing this in many forms.
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Andrew Joseph Mumford
12:53 AM on 05/19/2010
I have read an article where a French- Moroccan woman who has enough liberty to divorce her husband chooses to wear the burqa. She describes French officials denying her French citizenship because of that. Religion often reflects the values of a society, so it is naturally the societies that push women to second-class citizenship.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:33 AM on 05/18/2010
Quite frankly, I think it's unreasonable to expect Western women to cover their hair in many Muslim countries, and then to come to the West and not respect the customs and cultures *here.* I strongly oppose banning hijab or head-scarves, but to cover the *face* and expect to have some total anonymity (Whether you think that's a good thing or not) just isn't consistent with living in a free society.

One thing that we don't hear about this is, really, consideration for the others around from the *Muslim* community. In the West, whether it's in a Muslim context or not, covering the face under most circumstances, be it with a burqa or a ski mask, *is threatening.* To claim you further don't have to identify yourself even to the police, takes it a step further.

It'd be disingenuous to deny that Islamophobia isn't a big part of all this, but, I say, even if there were no such thing, I don't think it would change the practicalities and what walking around masked actually means in *Western* culture.

Perhaps, here, this is an opportunity for Muslim communities to actually show they *want to be present in and participate in Western societies.* There are real and practical reasons why in a free society, faces count. Faces humanize. (Both ways) Covering one's face generally is a big signal someone's Up To No Good.

We have cultures, too.
myaa
Justice - the only way to peace!
11:58 AM on 05/18/2010
"and then to come to the West and not respect the customs and cultures *here.*"

Most of the lands that you have mentioned have laws in place that require to dress in a certain way. If the western culture requires women to show their legs from knee down, or to show their cleavage, or to show their shape, uncover their hair etc., they should also formulate laws to enforce that! Moreover nuns or women from the smaller sub-cultures like the Amish should also be banned from covering their hair or figures.
Of-course if they require government issues ids to have uncovered hair (which many states already mandate) it should be consistently applied to everyone.

We need to make sure that we do not compromise our values and freedoms just out of the phobias and prejudices that our political leaders are trying to promote for their gain.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
03:31 PM on 05/18/2010
That's actually taking things to hyperbole. I'm saying it's reasonable to draw a line at showing one's *face.* That's something pretty universal and there are practical reasons for it. For anyone, I think, Muslim or not.

I'm saying here's a chance for Muslims in the West to actually show they actually want to be here. *Yes,* there's cultural pressure for women to show some skin, as I well know, and say, 'Well, no,' to when I darn well please, which is usually. But, yes, there are modesty laws, however minimal. My own religion has no particular nudity tabooes or particular sexualized fetish about it, nor belief that body-shame is a virtue, but we don't consider walking down the street starkers to be some kind of religious expression, either. Bikinis are actually kind of silly, to me: why bother with 'that little strip of cloth.' ...But you bet we have cultural rules about it which are made law.

There's a huge whole lot of latitude in between not going about totally covered and masked, and omitting the token swimsuit: we like this. But that doesn't mean there are no boundaries at all. Perhaps observing those customs actually shows some intention to be part of the society. It's not like we also aren't proud of the broad latitude.
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dawacu
Jesus loves you
11:05 AM on 05/18/2010
I agree with the author. Efforts to further marginalize Muslims in Western countries makes a prime pool of recruits for extremists. We should practice the religious tolerance we preach.
07:25 AM on 05/19/2010
Another answer to the question of extremism is to politely ask those who are most intolerant to leave. The niqab/burqa is aboslutely not a religious symbol, but rather a cultural symbol. Furthermore, it is the cultures that embrace the niqab/burqa that recently have posed the greatest external terrorist threat to the developed West. I do not choose to live in Saudi Arabia because I like to drive, I like to choose my outfits, I enjoy the freedom to leave my house without a male family member chaperoning me, and I like my sun tans. When I lived in Malaysia, I never left the house without covering my legs; in Morocco, I usually covered my hair. I had no problem obeying either cultural bias. Anyone should only live in a culture which he or she can embrace. Niqab wearers offend many in Western cultures. If they cannot conform, they should leave.
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katybird241
You cannot eat money.
10:33 AM on 05/18/2010
If a woman freely chooses, as a cultural expression, to cover her face, she should be welcome to do so. But if she is pressured or coerced by a father or husband and does not actually have a choice, I have a problem with that. I think the French law is going about the burqa issue in all the wrong ways.

Yes, it is non-canonical within the Qu'ran. But it is culturally significant to many women. I think most debate surrounding the burqa and other coverings has a tendency to be incredibly reductionist. How many women in coverings did the French government actually consult?

Personally I don't how women can stand those things. It's basically a big black tent. How do you not faint in the sun? But that said, if they feel it's a necessary part of their personal identity, that is really not my business - and it shouldn't be her husband's or father's either.
11:01 AM on 05/18/2010
Yes. Exactly.
myaa
Justice - the only way to peace!
12:04 PM on 05/18/2010
Absolutely.

One thing to add though - the issues is not "culturally significant" to women but it is just the way the interpret certain verses of their religious texts (much like men interpreting the beard as a religious requirement and having a separate dress code for men as well). Thus trying to ban it can be taken as an affront to their religion.
07:27 AM on 05/19/2010
Along that line of thinking, there is tremendous historical precedent for the use of tobacco in many religions, such as North American Indian religions. However, smoking in banned in public places in much of the US and the Western cultures. Shall we repeal this ban on religious grounds?
08:20 AM on 05/18/2010
Neither the burqa, and especially not the niqab, is mentioned in the Qur'an, which is arguably the most pro-feminist of all sacred texts. Mohammad would have likely been appalled by its use. As such, it is absolutely incorrect to identify the burqa/ niqab as an Islamic issue: It is a human rights issue. France is correct to ban this terrible symbol of feminine oppression, particularly as only 0.14% of its Muslim citizens violate French community with such an awful custom. Vive la France! The burqa presents a security threat to everyone and health risks to the poor women forced into it. I am surprised this author would take such an anti-humanist view of this torture device.
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Jehan S. Harney
08:39 AM on 05/18/2010
I understand this is not mandated by the Quran. My premise is if they choose to wear it, they should go ahead. We shouldn't limit their own version of freedom of expression. If they prefer to take a more conservative approach to their religion and cultural practice by doing so, then let them be. You may think it is oppression, but if they choose so, then there is nothing to argue here. I think it is torturous to pierce the body, but the other person likes it. Do I even lecture him or her??? It is called freedom of choice to do what you want as long as it doesn't cause harm to others.
09:26 AM on 05/18/2010
There is no evidence to suggest that the niqab or burqa are worn as a matter of choice. For this reason, it is the husbands or fathers who are fined most heavily in burqa-banned countries if their wives or daughters are caught wearing them. Furthermore, we are definitely comfortable as a society banning cultural expressions that we find awful, such as female genital mutilation and domestic violence. Body piercing is not the same thing as bullying women into a cloth prison.