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Jennifer Donahue

Jennifer Donahue

Posted: January 19, 2010 02:55 AM

Bungled Health Care Process Gets Blamed on Scapegoat Coakley

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Signs were more than clear last August during Congressional recess that amidst the health care debate and seething town hall meetings, reform, as Democrats defined it, was being poorly received.

Town hall meetings and tea party demonstrations -- many in Massachusetts -- threw fuel on the fire.

It was not a hard message to read. The time to pass health care was then or never. Then rising unemployment, more terror --and no reform. Holiday recess -- no reform. Earthquake in Haiti -- no reform. Sen. Paul Kirk still a voting member -- no reform.

What will it take to put something up for a vote?

It took the Massachusetts Senate race, if that even does it. The balance of health care reform passage would not hang on Martha Coakley unless Washington had made it so. Tin political ears have led to this quagmire as much as the handful of weeks between Coakley's primary win and today.

According to the New York Times, "Plan B would be to try to persuade House Democrats to approve the health care bill that the Senate adopted on Christmas Eve, obviating the need for an additional Senate vote and sending the measure directly to President Obama for his signature." Then there is still the option of passing health care through the budget reconciliation process: not so germaine, but it only requires only 51 Senate votes.

The best shot they have is for the House to vote on and approve the bill exactly as approved by the senate already with no changes. If they can do that (not that easy for Pelosi) then they don't need to have another 60-vote threshold in the Senate. Barring that, it is not clear how they can get it done. Not for lack of trying, but perhaps for trying without accepting or hearing the public will.

 
 
 
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08:25 AM on 01/20/2010
What makes liberals Mass. angry...maybe it is that the health care crap bill is such crap. Maybe they are voting against giving the insurance companies a huge bonus to do the same as they have been out of the taxpayer pocket. Not to mention the Blue Dogs who are Democrats in name only. Let's face it there is only one party in this country...the Corporate party
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rf dude
Just an average Man of Bronze
12:43 AM on 01/20/2010
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Bingo!!

Except I don't agree that the basic reason to pass Health Care Reform is to avoid political failure -

wouldn't it be better to pass the bill to provide - REFORM?
10:34 PM on 01/19/2010
So, the message sent by voters...by conservatives by going to the polls and progressives who stayed home (most of whom say we need health reform)...is that they h8 THIS bill (the Senate bill)...

...and now the irony is that POS is the ONLY option?
10:14 PM on 01/19/2010
She was no scapegoat; she ran a bad campaign and got what she deserved.
11:16 PM on 01/19/2010
A Democratic hat rack could have won in Massachusetts if the Democrats had governed in 2009 the way they promised to in 2008.
01:03 AM on 01/20/2010
Exactly!
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JimR
10:26 AM on 01/20/2010
Agreed.
08:28 PM on 01/19/2010
Yes, one way to describe Ms. Coakley is scapegoat. Another is exceptionally poor candidate.
05:32 PM on 01/19/2010
I think people are seeing this issue more accurately as:

"Loss of historically liberal Senate seat caused by weak and confusing health care bill with no public option"

Voters in MA are sending a message to the Democrats and I'm not sure I disagree with them. As abhorrent as the Republicans are, what other choice do we have but to threaten Democrats with our vote? It's not like we have 60 progressive votes in the Senate. This bill could be disastrous for the Democrats for many years to come if it passes. If they don't put together something that the vast majority approves of, the Republicans can make it their issue in every upcoming election year. Tapping into the anger on both the left and right.

I will judge the Democrats only if they give up, not if the bill fails. The media tells me that's not true. I think they're wrong.
08:32 AM on 01/20/2010
It only take 51 votes to pass a bill. Democrats should tell the Repubes to go to hell, start over with single payer and let the m philibuster...which would expose them as the blockers they are...putting them on the hot seat. A philibuster can't take nearly as long as this piece of crap bill.
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JimR
10:27 AM on 01/20/2010
A filibuster is pretty much just a procedural move now... it's not like the old movies where Jimmy Stewart collapses after speaking for days.
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
02:21 PM on 01/19/2010
Passing the Semate bill would just ensure that Coakley would fail by a greater margin - it sucks.
02:10 PM on 01/19/2010
Martha represents all that was wrong with the DLC/DNC machine that put Obama in office.
Fait accompli..
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Bart Motes
02:51 PM on 01/19/2010
Hilarious. Actually, it is the Clinton boys and especially girls who were behind Coakley and against Michael Capuano, who endorsed Obama early. Bill Clinton recorded a robocall for Coakley.
02:04 PM on 01/19/2010
Coakley=Obama=leftist agenda=defeat..
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
02:23 PM on 01/19/2010
Coakley =Obama=corporate giveaway as in Dems playing Repugs =defeat
02:26 PM on 01/19/2010
Leftist agenda? HA... if only Liberals and Progressives shared your view!
01:47 PM on 01/19/2010
If their best shot is approving the Senate version as is they can kiss the entire Fall election goodbye...
02:00 PM on 01/19/2010
Bingo, Stephen!
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JimR
10:28 AM on 01/20/2010
Yes. And they don't seem to get that.
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rougebaisers
12:58 PM on 01/19/2010
Yes. It is beyond hilarious or tragic, depending on how you look at it. A year of back room deals and then the back breaking straw...the Mandate. Americans never have, do not, and never will want to be told they have to do something that is going to cost them a lot of money. Kiss a lot of political careers goodbye.
01:20 PM on 01/19/2010
We seem to want services but do not want to pay for it.
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
02:24 PM on 01/19/2010
I certainly don't want to pay greedy insurers million dollar bonuses and caribean corporate conference for it
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ProudLiberalDan
Standing up an fighting conservatives since 1987
05:39 PM on 01/19/2010
I'll happily pay higher taxes to buy into Medicare.

No one should have to be forced to buy for-profit insurance.
11:07 AM on 01/19/2010
The Democrats shouldn't have expected a super majority forever. They had months to get something done and didn't do it. We heard Obama say there would be a bill by the Summer recess, then Thanksgiving, and it goes on and on. Even if Coakley is elected, I don't know if there would ever be a bill done.

The Democrats have had time to go home at night, to sleep, to eat, to go on vacations. If they were really serious about getting this done, they would have put all that on hold and worked on the bill 24/7. But they haven't. They took the majority for granted and look where it led them.

And if she isn't elected, why not TRY a stripped down, smaller version with just the essentials? Take on the pre-existing conditions and setting up a smaller national exchange without a mandate? Obama campaigned saying there shouldn't be a mandate, yet the bill goes against what he said and is one of the major complaints about the bill by the right. Start there and expand to something bigger.

Brown has stated in all the debates that he wants to kill the existing bill, but wants to work on another bill. He did vote for our Universal Health Care bill here in the state. If he doesn't work on it, and turns into an extreme right winger, he will be gone in 2 years when the term is up.
12:08 PM on 01/19/2010
While I agree they shoud not have expected it forever I would have thought they had a chance til 2012 at least. If their policies were so convincing and the economy as many has expected no matter what they did, was going to improve. They could have and should have been able to ride it for a while.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:45 PM on 01/19/2010
Make it really simple.
Let anyone over 50 enroll in Medicare.
Cover all children with Medicaid.
Reimport drugs from Canada...
10:53 AM on 01/19/2010
I personally blame Max Baucus and Obama for allowing Baucus so much time to dither. They went to the summer recess with no bill and Baucus ended up writing the bill himself. Grassley and Enzi never had any intentions of voting for the bill. He probably could have gotten Snowe had he not given the GOP so much time to twist her arm.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:46 PM on 01/19/2010
Snowe talks the good talk, but VOTES REPUG......consistently, she never would have supported it.
08:47 AM on 01/19/2010
There's more than enough blame to go around. The Dems for losing control of the health care reform debate. Baucus, Snowe, Landrieu, Lincoln, Lieberman and Nelson for needlessly delaying reform and putting their own egos and ambitions ahead of the public good. And, yes, Coakley, for taking her election for granted. Hopefully, she'll somehow be able to pull things out but, if not, the best solution, IMO, is for the House to pass the Senate bill and then both houses to pass a reconciliation measure fixing the Senate bill's flaws. And then the Dems better get out there are retake control of the debate -- after all, they will have just saved millions of Americans from being forced into bankruptcy by health care costs. They will have saved tens of thousands of lives that would have been lost due to lack of health insurance. They just restored tens of millions of Americans' health security. Just get off the defensive and start making it clear that Dems are the ones fighting for working families while Republicans are lackeys for the special interests.
12:34 PM on 01/19/2010
Coakley will make no difference in the health care reform issue. Other than, of course, she being a new candidate in the race for lobby money from the insurance industry. Whether Coakley or Brown, the outcome will be the same. When was the last time we heard about all 60 Democrats voting as a block? The only thing Coakley represents is an opportunity to restart the bidding wars for votes. Not a peep from our leaders about reconciliation. Congress and Obama are truly pathetic representatives of the People.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
05:48 PM on 01/19/2010
This is not going to get the DEMS anywhere if NOBODY can afford the Premiums and I am afraid that this plan will force up home foreclosures...Where is anyone who is already underwater with their mortgage going to get the money to pay the 20% of their take home pay for this...and no tax credit let alone any deductibility......
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JohnFromCensornati
The End is near
08:27 AM on 01/19/2010
"reform as Democrats defined it, was being poorly received"

"The best shot they have is for the House to vote on and approve the bill exactly as approved by the senate already with no changes."

I think this is a very interesting blog. First, you point out that the people don't want this "reform" and then you tell us how *they* can best get it passed. Who is *they*? The insurance companies?
01:26 PM on 01/19/2010
i was thinking the same thing. basically she was saying" the public don't want this , dems had better get it through quick then"