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Has Fashion REALLY Not Changed In 20 Years? (POLL)

Posted: 01/02/2012 4:23 pm

A piece in the January issue of Vanity Fair by Kurt Andersen suggests that fashion has been stuck in a "decades-long rut."

Andersen locates the origins of the rut in 1992, making an ambitious statement that although technology has progressed at a blitzkreig pace, pop culture, art and style haven't made any truly significant strides in 20 years:

Movies and literature and music have never changed less over a 20-year period. Lady Gaga has replaced Madonna, Adele has replaced Mariah Carey both distinctions without a real difference and Jay-Z and Wilco are still Jay-Z and Wilco. Except for certain details (no Google searches, no e-mail, no cell phones), ambitious fiction from 20 years ago (Doug Coupland's Generation X, Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash, Martin Amis' Time's Arrow) is in no way dated, and the sensibility and style of Joan Didion's books from even 20 years before that seem plausibly circa-2012.

Andersen also says that because the economy has led places like Target and Anthropologie to mass manufacture clothes and other accoutrements, the American middle class has all become "quirky, independent individualists" who aren't innovating in the way they used to.

But Andersen's major omission is this: just because style hasn't seen a "revolution" since 1992 in a way that looks like the "revolution" of the '60s or '70s doesn't mean it isn't changing and growing.

Obviously, fashion has been retro-crazy for years: just look at the revival of '70s-style clothes that occurred in the late '90s (we spent most of 1999 in our flared jeans and printed polyester blouses). In the aughts, we've seen the '80s come back (skinny jeans and neon are still ubiquitous) and then an apt chronological transition to a grunge renaissance (plaid, combat boots). And as Andersen notes, "Mad Men" brought back '50s-era trends as a fetishized lifestyle.

The observation that hipsters of recent years have just been cribbing from old trends is not a new one. But style trends often arise as a reaction to the trends that preceded them; for example, grunge style was a reaction to the fussiness and excess of '80s carefully sculpted hair and oversized jewelry. Why can't the trends of the 2000s be an equally valid reaction to previous years? Why does, for example, Lady Gaga being carried down the red carpet in a giant egg have to smack of Madonna?

Yes, people are still wearing pants as they did in 1992, but the style and silhouette, for example, have changed. Just because it's 2011 and we're still wearing clothes, and not spacesuits and jet packs, doesn't mean our generation is devoid of creativity and inert when it comes to innovation.

Perhaps it's true that the diversified 2000s can't be summed up in a single, over-simplified label (e.g. the "hippie" '60s, the excessive '80s), but who says it needs to be? Fashion and style are about communicating -- and fashion can still communicate without necessarily demanding a "revolution" in the exact form we've seen in the past.

Just our two cents.

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nycagnes
11:22 PM on 01/04/2012
There is no individualism in fashion today. Everyone wears the same uniform.
11:50 PM on 01/03/2012
I don't think style has changed much since maybe the 90s? The hemlines maybe? But if you really look at photos and such you could wear the same clothes now and pass pretty easily. Maybe because the fabrics and drape or whatever are so good. I don't think real fashion or style has changed at all.
05:08 AM on 01/05/2012
People dont wear acid wash or light wash levi 501's,short cropped t shirts,baggy flannel shirts,matte lipstick..we look nothing like the 90s,I'm really curious as to how the writer even came to this conclusion..I'm not sure where you live but the fashion there must be pretty dated an old..no mall where you come from? Not even clothing sold at fred meyers or grocery outlets are dated like that. Google 90's,then google fashion today. The terribly unflattering hair and makeup and ill fitting clothing {I'm picturing the entire "Friends" wardrobe here} are gone. I'm really curious as to how you formed this opinion,as a quick google search or a peak through any major or indie fashion magazine would immediately disproof this observation.
01:24 PM on 01/08/2012
I agree. I was picturing the "Friends" wardrobe as well as I read through the article thinking just how different fashion is today. The differences are much more subtle than the differences of past decades, but different nonetheless.
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Daniel Myers
Then man created god in his image.
12:24 PM on 01/03/2012
It has to do with the stuctured nature of society. In a nutshell, style has consequences that may track back to an indivual, and when society has been in a decline since the eighties no want wants to jump off their respective ladder rung.
12:08 PM on 01/03/2012
EXCUSE ME !!!!!!!! ADELE IS A GOOD SINGER, I'M NOT DISPUTING THAT ! BUT PLEASE DO NOT IMPLY THAT SHE HAS REPLACED MARIAH CAREY, NO THAT IS WRONG, NO ONE WILL EVER REPLACE HER THANKYOU ! SHE CAN BE COMPARED AS A GOOD SINGER TO MARIAH YES, BUT SHE WILL NEVER AND NO ONE ELSE WILL EVER REPLACE THE VOICE, THE TALENT, THE PRODUCER, THE LYRICIST AND THE AMAZING SINGER/SONG WRITER AND ACTRESS, MARIAH CAREY !!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM A TRUE LAMB4LIFE ;0
CaseyComo
Less jaw, more brain.
09:46 PM on 01/04/2012
I'm sorry, what?
05:03 AM on 01/05/2012
lol you are REALLY into mariah carey.
06:04 AM on 01/05/2012
I am into Mariah ! I love her, I will always stick up for her ;)
11:25 AM on 01/03/2012
fashion doesn't really mean anything. Used to be for the upper crust as a leisure/hobby-getting designed clothes. We have different production and marketing now-stuff is moving all over the globe. Improvements have been made in microfiber and the use of lycra and stretch-look at the "clothes" in a good sporting goods store-that stuff is worn everywhere-even at workplaces....comfort/lightweight/wrinkle resistant/wicking/warm or cool-to heck with fashion when this type of apparel has advanced so much. Fashion is cumbersome for the type of life people actually lead. This is all good. We are not mannequins.
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Jeanie G
02:21 PM on 01/05/2012
You're so close-minded. First, not everyone in our society performs manual labor for their paycheck. Second, even those that do don't need to can have individual style. I'm sorry that getting dressed every day feels like such a dull, utilitarian chore for you.
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craiglll
10:44 AM on 01/03/2012
Actaully it hasn't changed since the 80s.
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BlueRoseofTexas
There is nothing micro about my bio
10:57 AM on 01/03/2012
Hmm. I'm remembering giant shoulder pads, leg warmers and huge hair. I don't see those so much anymore.
10:13 AM on 01/03/2012
Some photos to back up the theory would have been good to see...too much trouble? Awww go take an early lunch Ms. Misener and go shopping with Anderson. You both need to stop working so hard.
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intellifran
insert clever line here...
11:09 AM on 01/03/2012
Fantastic! her other articles lack basic jounalism skills as well. She is horrid.
09:50 AM on 01/03/2012
Fashion is as boring as hell now. I hate to say it, but it's as though everyone is exactly the same and there is nothing we can do about it. Not only that, but everything is a copy of something else and nothing new has happened in a while.
07:50 AM on 01/03/2012
Depends on whether you're discussing FASHION as opposed to fashion. The big letter F is driven largely by the changes in society, music, trends, attitudes. Small f is driven by individual taste and creativity - which often leads it eventually into big F. Big F takes only a few, carefully calculated risks - small f is all about risks, about not going with the flow and not caring if anyone else dresses the same way.

But I also agree with other posters - rock music, which has driven so much cultural (and big F fashion) creativity, has devolved back into pop, except for a few acts like the Rolling Stones, who will always dance with the one that brung them. There's no innovation, no new ideas there - which brings us back to the nostalgia trends which have been following each other across the landscape lately. Everything old is new again, and without a cultural kickstart, something new and exciting and creative, that's the way it's gonna be for a while. Looking back longingly at the exciting, creative ideas of the past is how we deal with the sterility of the present.
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BlueRoseofTexas
There is nothing micro about my bio
10:55 AM on 01/03/2012
So true. I read the Vanity Fair piece and it aligned with my long-held impressions. Where are the bold innovators for our new world? I wonder if it has anything to do with the shellshock of the 2000s (terrorism followed by wars followed by economic crashes)? Do people find it comforting to maintain the status quo, or to try to repeat the past with retro culture? I know my husband and I spent the holidays listening to 20s Jazz and 50s Pop (Sinatra, Bennettt, Fitzgerald, etc.), looking at art from the same eras. I rarely shop for clothing anymore first because everything I have is still in style, second, I find the colors and shapes forlorn and uninspriing and third, it just doesn't seem appropriate given the fact that so many can't afford new clothes.
07:13 AM on 01/03/2012
"Has Fashion REALLY Not Changed In 20 Years?"

Yeah, it definitely has. When I was in High School, young girls didn't dress like hookers.
IndependentTogether
Forced left by the right
10:05 AM on 01/03/2012
When was that? AFAIK, this has been going on since at least the 70's...
11:25 AM on 01/03/2012
Late 80's early 90s.

14-18 year-old girls did not wear the types of clothes they do now. If they did, believe me I would have noticed.
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Lesann
Resistance is Futile
03:55 PM on 01/03/2012
I was in high school in the 70's. I can assure you that we did not dress like this.

My father would not have let me walk out of the house in what some of these girls wear.
10:30 AM on 01/03/2012
I have to agree with you colin72 when i went to high school if a young lady or man came school like they do now ,they wouldn't be sent home they be sent for psyhological counselling.
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Jack Kalpakian
07:04 AM on 01/03/2012
Clothing is stuck in cycles. Compare the outfits worn by Woodrow Wilson and Barrack Obama -- a century separates them but they are essentially the same. Likewise for women's fashions. There are no new clothing ideas there since the 1950s. Compare Wilson with Van Buren and you would see a big difference. I think that clothing depended on the creativity of the tailor and the taste of the customer, so changes were possible and there were fewer conventions. Today, social expectations define taste and ironically, it means LESS innovation. True two-piece clothes along the lines of the Nehru suit are not used, except in India. There is reluctance to accept the use of stretch pants in formal settings and there is an insistence on "proper clothing" being the business suit that is based on military heritage, surgery, and horse riding -- things very few people do. Yes, change may mean looking at the Jetsons for inspiration.
06:22 AM on 01/03/2012
Your Right! Come on " Generation Whateveryouare" Let's see something new.
03:31 AM on 01/03/2012
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Liberal all the way
01:08 AM on 01/03/2012
PANTS ON THE GROUND IS STILL IN STYLE! WHAT THE F!!!!
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yelnatsfavorite
01:08 AM on 01/03/2012
I have been waiting for the "Chanel" of this century....some one to totally change the look of clothes...not just outrageous fashion....the past 30 yrs has just been a mishmash of everything 20th Century. I have even seen exact replicas of items from the 70's being massed marketed as "new". We're shifting into 80's then what? A fashion revolution I hope. You know when you see the different centuries' fashions in the World Book Encyclopedia 2100. We're ready.