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5 Myths Women Believe About Men

Posted: 05/21/2012 5:33 pm

My girlfriends are always curious to hear what I have to say about men. Aside from my degree in Sociology and the plethora of gender study books crowding my bedroom, as a sex columnist, I have the delightful pleasure of interviewing men to see what they really think about dating, relationships, sex and... us. So ladies, to ensure you're not wasting your valuable time with a man who's not worthy of it, take note of the following myths because knowledge is power.

1.) MYTH: He's jealous of other guys, so he wants to be monogamous. I was dating this guy who was full of questions: When was the last time you saw so-and-so? Are you sure you and your male model buddy are really just friends? Why is your phone going off in the middle of the night? At first, I was tickled by this barrage of questions. I thought, wow, he's jealous of another men's interest; this must mean that he's really into me. Wrong. My friend Jon explains: "Men are territorial by nature. They want to know who their competition is and how they measure up. It's classic machismo." I realized that if question-asker were really into me, he wouldn't be soliciting information casually, but rather telling me things about himself and asking me questions about myself -- things that would help us get to know each other on a more substantial level. Turns out, Mr. Curious had been sleeping with at least two different women the whole time, anyway, so it's possible that his line of questioning was a projection. Buh-bye!

2.) MYTH: There's a message in his message.
While some women can spend an alarming amount of time "decoding" the syntax of a guy's text message with the same amount of acumen we used to ace our AP English exams, chances are, the guy's not doing the same thing. "Studies indicate that women, to a greater extent than men, are sensitive to the interpersonal meanings that lie 'between the lines' in the messages they exchange with their mates." I'm not totally putting down these all-gal gab sessions; they can often lead to insightful thoughts we have about ourselves, but we must keep in mind that men are just not reciprocating our analytic efforts. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Say you write a cray text to your guy one champagne-fueled night. Don't stress it; he's not giving it a second thought.

3.) MYTH: He "LIKES" me, so he really likes me. It's kind of sad what passes for courting these days. Think about how much effort it takes a guy to thumbs up a Facebook status or "Like" one of your photos. We're not exactly talking the prowess of Lord Byron here, yet I've seen smart, savvy and sexy women gain a cool sense of satisfaction from meaningless digital attention. This can be really dangerous, especially for over-analytic women, to whom the digital social network becomes a whole other universe, filled with black holes. Social media has invaded our head-space so much that sometimes we lose sight of a real gesture. A phone call, flowers, picking you up and taking you home -- these are not archaic relics of romance, but signs that a guy is starting to invest in you. Pay attention to the effort involved in the way he's letting you know he likes you. Is your guy really involved in your life, or is he keeping a foothold in it? "Women let the smallest things flatter them," says Laurence -- a bachelor who hasn't had a free weekend since the '90s. "It takes minimal effort to keep a woman hooked on me when I'm really stringing her along and waiting for something better." Laurence's candor is unsettling to say the least, but learn from it: examine the effort your man is putting into the attention he's showing you, and don't settle!

4.) MYTH: Men think aggressive women are sexy.
No doubt, as empowered women, when we see someone we want, we'll go after him with the same ambition that has scored us successes elsewhere. But, consider meeting men rather than chasing them. Chasing is exhausting (sorry guys, I'm a busy gal) and can appear compulsive and dramatic. You can feel powerful in the moment, but often, explains my friend Pete, "If a girl goes after me in the beginning, that's my cue to sit back and let her do all the work." But if you meet a man rather than chase him, you're opening yourself up to a more mutual and reciprocal relationship. "A woman who knows who she is and what she wants is beyond sexy," my friend Brendan tells me. "But I want to know she's really into me, and not just trying to score a boyfriend -- or husband or has some agenda. That's a total turn-off." It's reassuring to be reminded that men want us to be into them too. Sometimes we forget that because we're so focused on what's going on inside our heads.

5.) MYTH: He gets uncomfortable talking about things; that means he doesn't care. Women sometimes deal with problems (especially emotional concerns) by talking about them, sharing their feelings and matching experiences with others. This can be frustrating to men, who more typically deal with problems by focusing on the facts and seeking an immediate solution. If that solution eludes them, men might feel useless and lost, and shut down as a result. My friend Ed, happily married to his high school sweetheart, confided in me that for a year he suspected his wife had an eating disorder and that he was so alarmed and confused about what to do, he said nothing. At the same time, his wife, also my friend, told me that her husband didn't even notice her weight loss. She was devastated that he could be so disconnected from her turmoil. While men certainly need to be able to communicate with their intimate partners, remember that they also have to confront and deal with the "problem solver" stereotype, and that pressure can be paralyzing.

 

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05:29 PM on 05/27/2012
Well I am getting a little uncomfortable talking about things....... Soooooo.. (. YAWN. ) .. I has gots to go.. bye now........ Oh the other myth is that men with very long Fingers have.... Well it just ain't true, and I know because I Have REALLY Long Fingers.!
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cclawnj
04:27 PM on 05/27/2012
Nos. 1 and 2 are complete nonsense. Ladies, we are more like you than you seem to realize. No. 1: If I'm jealous then that DOES mean I want you to myself and don't want anyone else. No. 2: When I'm really into someone I endlessly replay every little turn of phrase in my head, scrutinize anything that might be construed as a signal, and ask other people (usually women) what it might mean. No.4 is really simple: If we are already receptive to a particular woman she cannot be too aggressive. If we're not receptive, or if we notice that the object of our interest is that way with just about every guy she meets, then it's a huge turn-off. Pretty much the same as it is for you, I'm guessing. I don't have much of a reaction to Nos. 3 and 5.
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GeorgeGee
03:28 PM on 05/27/2012
Emotional stability. Maturity. Physical attraction. Romance. Friendship. Independence. Honesty. Trust. Compatible goals and lifestyles. Communication. Fun. Support. Kindness. Mutual respect.

A long laundry list, I know. If you start deleting some from the laundry list, you're moving in the wrong direction. No wonder it can be so hard and so many people fail. Both parties much be equally CAPABLE, WILLING AND EXCITED in provide all of these to each other. The more of these you can bring to a relationship, the closer you will be to having it be a lasting and worthwhile one. Actually, you better have a big chunk of these, or your relationship won't stand the test of time. They are almost inseperable, like each being a link in a strong chain.
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bi1
01:56 PM on 05/27/2012
I love these things,i just hope a lot of people do not take them seriously.Foe one thing the answers from her male friend is clouded, he is trying to answer the question as if he is one of those and not one of the other.My experience is that women are more controlling than men are and much more curious about the phone calls.
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01:04 PM on 05/27/2012
MYTH: He gets uncomfortable talking about things; that means he doesn't care. He's never uncomfortable talking about things dealing with himself considering he wants to be the Universe's Center. "My friend Ed, happily married to his high school sweetheart, confided in me that for a year he suspected his wife had an eating disorder and that he was so alarmed and confused about what to do, he said nothing. At the same time, his wife, also my friend, told me that her husband didn't even notice her weight loss." He didn't want to say anything because it took too much energy. And she did this so she would be noticed and then blames him because he doesn't fuss over her. She wanted approval. She wanted concern. She wanted attention. She wanted him to solve her problem. She's hoped he'd 'fix' her. He could've gone the opposite and said something, tried to do everything he could and she'd be resistant saying she didn't have a problem. It's like the woman who says "John, am I fat?" John says nothing. "Oh John you just don't care!" to "John am I fat?" "Yes, honey you are." She'll get angry or she'll cry. John says nothing and he's still screwed. I'm not a man, but I can see where they can get awfully confused with the darned if you do, darned if you don't."
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03:45 PM on 05/27/2012
exactly
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05:54 PM on 05/28/2012
Thanks you.
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01:02 PM on 05/27/2012
MYTH: He "LIKES" me, so he really likes me. Women do look for flattery a lot."It takes minimal effort to keep a woman hooked on me when I'm really stringing her along and waiting for something better." This guy just sounds so minimal anyway. He seems to find self-esteem in stringing someone along yet gets ticked when he's treated the same. Maybe, mister, you should concentrate on having a steady relationship instead of looking for points. Your phoniness will eventually be found out and bless your little heart, you'll be alone. But hey, with your ego, you'll probably not notice the difference you take up so much space anyway.

"MYTH: Men think aggressive women are sexy." That is a big myth. But then what constitutes being aggressive in women? Not settling for less? Being as persistent as a guy? The aggressive tag on women is treated as an insult. Most men prefer submissiveness, approval seekers, or women who'll dumb down for him in order to keep him. On the one hand we have men who don't want wishy washy women, yet she'll be called "aggressive" and he gets insecure when she won't be intimidated by anything.
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12:50 PM on 05/27/2012
MYTH: He's jealous of other guys, so he wants to be monogamous. I was dating this guy who was full of questions: When was the last time you saw so-and-so? Are you sure you and your male model buddy are really just friends? Why is your phone going off in the middle of the night? Women should say it's none of your business and it is a sign of jealousy. It doesn't matter whether he's fooling around or not. He should mind his own business and it's not a myth, for if he was so secure, he wouldn't be asking so many stupid questions.

MYTH: There's a message in his message. I agree with that one. Stop looking for things that aren't there so you can make a big deal over nothing.
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Jim Fay
12:36 PM on 05/27/2012
a "like" is the same as "yeah, cool". try not to make it more.
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Claire Redfern
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12:04 PM on 05/27/2012
had the jealous lover he wanted to know all of my past lovers and what we did. it was not like he didn't have a past that I could care less of. It to me is more of him being insecure of him. not of me... I like me for me.. I would hope he liked himself as well. we have to like the good with the bad ..
11:32 AM on 05/27/2012
when a couple meet, he'll pray she never changes, and she's plotting all the changes she wants!!! ladies, men at 17 are pretty much set in their ways, and if you don't like what you see, they're many more to choose from!!! why this infatuation with changing men? if something bothers you now, in ten years it'll still bother you!!!
09:46 AM on 05/27/2012
I believe in equality of the sexes. That doesn't mean I'm not going to try and be nice to the women I date, but if you flat-out expect me to pay for everything, open your door every time, buy you flowers and candy, etc., and you don't reciprocate the gestures, then we're in an unequal partnership, and I'm going to dump you.

I hated the movie Think Like A Man. The women in it tried to manipulate their men, and I would dump you in a heartbeat if that's what you were doing. And they didn't believe in equality. The movie had the same premise as Hitch, but Hitch was a thousand times better, and the story wasn't split up between five different couples.

Also, make sure your goal is a strong, lasting relationship, not marriage. If marriage is all that you want, you can have that with any man, and I become a non-entity. You can have a healthy, monogamous, committed long-term relationship without marriage; remember that. Then you also have to have a real conversation with us about monogamy. Some men aren't monogamous, but that's fine as long as we're up front and honest about it. But that also means that you can't assume that you're in a monogamous relationship when you haven't spoken with your man about it. If he's not monogamous, then it's best to find out early and move on if that's not what you're looking for.

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OhGetReal
We can lose our liberty in one generation.
10:17 AM on 05/27/2012
"I believe in equality of the sexes. That doesn't mean I'm not going to try and be nice to the women I date, but if you flat-out expect me to pay for everything, open your door every time, buy you flowers and candy, etc., and you don't reciprocate the gestures, then we're in an unequal partnership, and I'm going to dump you."

Oh yeah......yer a real catch. "Try and be nice to the women I date?"
10:21 PM on 05/27/2012
Exactly. Just like that. I wouldn't date you because you're not being nice to me. Likewise, why shouldn't I try and be nice to the women I date?

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SLM89
Don't just look outside the box, change the box
03:50 PM on 05/27/2012
What do you consider "reciprocating the gestures"?
10:20 PM on 05/27/2012
Doing the same things for me, also. I thought that was self-evident.

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09:38 AM on 05/27/2012
Finally! A realistic blog about men!

I wish I'd known 35 years ago (about men) that I know now. I'm very happily married (married in my 30s) but wasted so much time my college years w/my friends "I wonder what he meant by that? Do you think he'll ask me out...?" I read WAY too much into everything. Even when my husband and I were dating, I'd automatically wonder why he didn't call EXACTLY when he said he would (typical, over-analytical insecurity.) After being married a short time, I soon realized that men are simple. (Don't take offense guys, I mean that in a GOOD way.) They usually say what they mean, they don't pout, they want to be appreciated "thank you for fixing the faucet," if they're hungry, feed them, and sex is how you show them love. Thank God men are NOT like women. Can you imagine how emotionally draining (realistically) a relationship like that would be? (Trying to read into what each other said and meant.) Thankful for my girlfriends too, but I love my uncomplicated husband.
03:13 PM on 05/27/2012
I like what you said about emotionally draining there and hope other ladies will try to think of how that is for us guys. I actaully had my gf get mad a few days ago because when I was leaveing I guess I stepped to the door to fast and I don't even know what that means.
09:37 AM on 05/27/2012
I also have a Sociology degree from back in the 1970's and have worked as a Psychiatric Counselor before getting into business. Over the past 40 years the gender relationship rules have changed. Women are now alpha aggressive behaving as men used to, men omega passive as women used to be. Initially due to the Womyn's Liberation Movement whose stated purpose was employment equality, but whose real purpose was women's independence from men and family/kids.

Now since this is the reality and isn't changing what's a woman to do. With so few relationship worthy guys for reasons mentioned above and not having dad as a positive role model teaching boys how to be a man the few quality guys out there are going to be chased by swarms of women looking for them. They want guys ambitious, smarter than they are, upwardly economically mobile....guys that women throughout time wanted. But now there are few. So these guys have all the leverage/power.

Bottom line. Ladies, you're in tough shape for a committed male relationship. The Womyn's Movement was great for you professionally, but not socially. Good news is you'll have a higher paying job and more career advancement running the country than men. The bad news it's likely you won't find a quality man to commit to.

Good luck. Cause it doesn't look good for you with all the unemployed guys living in their parent's cellars getting manicures playing video games.
OhGetReal
We can lose our liberty in one generation.
10:23 AM on 05/27/2012
Yep, you're right.......Women are paying the price for the feminization of men and I hear it everyday from the workworld. Business success has it rewards but it is a cold lover and cannot hold you.
foubabou
Mean People Suck
03:49 PM on 05/27/2012
Ah Jeez, do you mean I gotta quit getting manicures??? Crap!! Next you're gonna want me to sell the Harley and start wearing those shirts with buttons down the front.
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Landry7514
09:23 AM on 05/27/2012
I couldn't agree more on the "men say what the mean". I have told that to my friends repeatedly, there is no secret code. Also if a man is interested, he will find a way to contact you, even the shy ones. There is no need to chase him, ask any man, if he's interested he will contact you, if not, you will not hear from.
10:05 AM on 05/27/2012
I so much agree.
03:41 PM on 05/27/2012
Thats not always true there somtimes you ladies think you are giving out signals but you really are not. When I was in hs I worked at a mcdonalds there was a beatifull girl there that was way out of my league and to be honest me and all the other guys thought she hated me for some reason. She would talk with other guys there me all I could get was a smile and nod then she would come up with any reason to get as far from me as she could get in the store. After she started dating a guy and got another job her freind told me she was in love with me. Now after that it did make sense she was nervous but just look at a male model we had a few guys there built like that and the idea that my scrawny little self made her so nervous was jut not somthing I thought of. So if you like a guy don't be afraid to let him know he may like you and just think your way to beatifull for him to even try with.
08:51 AM on 05/27/2012
I am on the dating scene and in my 50's. I don't know about other ages but men in their 50's and 60's are not really looking for a relationship anymore. I date a lot and would really like a LTR but have not fournd any man willing to commit. Why should they when there are some many women to choose from. There are more women at my age then men. I never really trust any of therm because you still see them on the dating sites even though you are dating. The internet and the economy has opened up a different way of dating. I can't tell you the last time I have been taken out to dinner or have been given flowers. When I was young and dating a man really tried to court me. That has changed and I am not sure it like it but it is what it is.
kmd4excel
A reality check for progressives
11:08 AM on 05/27/2012
Speaking from a man's point of view, I would turn that around on you; it seems women aren't interested in relationships anymore, they only want someone to go on dates with. More accurately, women are trying to hold on to an old paradigm (ESPECIALLY in this age demographic) that the man they're with should be more "successful" (re: make more Money) than she is. Men of my age (50-60) are tired of putting in the work and effort only to be dumped when the new "shiny" object comes along (the lawyer, CEO, doctor, high roller, etc. etc.).

What I am finding is that women in this demographic want their cake and eat it too. Men don't necessarily listen to what you say so much as they watch what you do. And when I say "you", I am speaking in general terms of womanhood. Women tell us they want a LTR, and then expect us to do all the work. At this age, it doesn't work like that. You want "equality"? Then show us you're willing to take the same risks you expect us to. That's when real equality exists.
11:45 AM on 05/27/2012
Thank you for your point of view since I only get my women friends views. I do wish I could find someone that wants a LTR. And with the economy the way it is I pay for some of the dates. I truly feel for the guys but I do find there is a lot of choice out there and the men can date 1 or more women. I was dating a man that said he was newly divorced and wanted to date. He was a nice guy and I said fine and in fact newly divorced he should date. Every time we were together he mentioned that and I finally said that is ok as long as you know I am dating also. He was horrified.
foubabou
Mean People Suck
04:31 PM on 05/27/2012
And another point of view.

I don't embrace all the new dating technology. Don't scan internet dating sites, don't twitter and the thought of Facebook gives me the creeps. Like spending time with real people and not holograms or false images.

Haven't dated an American woman in many years for most of the same reasons brought up by kmd4. Most of the age appropriate American women I met (50+) just aren't into doing. They spend too much time sitting around. Maybe it's just the women I met but they were all either very demanding/rigid (like they need to run the show this time around), complicated and carried a lot of baggage. Or they were completely opposite and clingy/needy. Don't remember the last time I met someone available in the US that was laid back and moderate in her approach to life.

I wound up moving to Europe.

If you don't like it. Don't accept "it is what it is". Just try to "be the person you want to attract".