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Over 25? You're Not Qualified to Do Social Media

Posted: 07/22/2012 7:00 pm

Cathryn Sloane, a student from the University of Iowa set off a social media firestorm recently by saying that nobody over the age of 25 should be doing social media as a profession. Her article on NextGen Journal "Why Every Social Media Manager Should Be Under 25," has garnished over 400 comments and put a bee in the bonnet of every single social media maven from here to Antarctica.

Her premise is this:

You might argue that everyone, regardless of age, was along for the ride (of social media), or at least everyone under the age of 30. I'm not saying they weren't, but we spent our adolescence growing up with social media. We were around long enough to see how life worked without it but had it thrown upon us at an age where the ways to make the best/correct use of it came most naturally to us. No one else will ever be able to have as clear an understanding of these services, no matter how much they may think they do.

The key is that we learned to use social media socially before professionally, rather than vice versa or simultaneously. After all, it is called social media; the seemingly obvious importance of incorporating comforting social aspects into professional usage seems to go over several companies' heads. To many people in the generations above us, Facebook and Twitter are just the latest ways of getting messages out there to the public, that also happen to be the best.

Ouch. Hey, you old farts... You don't know how to use Twitter or Facebook because you're old and out of touch!

Naturally this set off a massive influx of comments on the original post from VERY angry social media pundits who were eager to tell the young punk to "get off their lawn." Oh, and they did. Some going as far as to throw the "you'll never work again in this town, kid."

Really people? Are you that threatened by a 25-year-old student with a fresh, albeit wrong, but fresh idea?

Then of course, came the responses. Not from Cathryn herself, who appears to be missing in action (ironic, eh?). No, the responses came from the NextJen journal themselves. In this piece, Connor Toohill defends his author:

On Friday, we published an opinion piece by recent University of Iowa grad and NextGen Contributor Cathryn Sloane entitled, "Why Every Social Media Manager Should Be Under 25." That opinion proved to be quite controversial, with thousands of Facebook shares, hundreds of Tweets and scores of angry comments. We've run thousands of pieces since NextGen Journal launched in September 2010, but nothing has generated quite this much fierce resistance. So we wanted to take this chance to clarify a couple important points.

Number one, a number of people have referred to this piece as the opinion of NextGen Journal, or a particular take that we endorse. That's a simple misunderstanding of who we are and what we aim to do. NGJ is, above all, a platform: we vault the diverse voices, perspectives and priorities of our generation into the national dialogue. We don't agree with every Op/Ed we run, and our goal isn't to communicate an institutional stance. Our aim is to give a better understanding of where members of our generation stand, what we've experienced and what we believe.

Applying this to Cathryn's article: whether you agree with her or not, she was describing a belief that a number of young people share. In conversations across college campuses and with young professionals, these ideas often come up: that young people naturally grasp social media more effectively, that members of our generation are best suited to fill positions in the rapidly expanding social media profession, and that employers too often value prior work experience above all else.

But it's not over; far from it. Mack Collier has advice for the young author.

Your core message, that 'your generation' is familar with social media because you've always used these tools, is a good one. As are your thoughts that as such, 'your generation' has much to offer on how companies can and should be using these tools. A very good and valid message.

Unfortunately, due to the tone of your article that wasn't the message that 99% of your readers heard. Here's what most people thought your message was:

"Dear Old People Over the Age of 25,

You are screwing up Social Media. Stop it. Companies stop hiring these clowns to do social media, because they have no idea what they are doing. Hire 'my generation'. We are smart, we are hip. Besides, we have always had these tools, so we should be the ones using them, not these old farts over the age of 25.

Signed,

Recent College Graduate Under the Age of 25 That Gets It"

Of course, there's nothing young people love more than older people telling them what to do, right?

Then there's the the official "angry old guy" response.

Dear NextGen: A Rebuttal From the Social Media Old Folks


I am the Angry Old Guy representative, folks.


I'm the 47 year-old social media professional who read Cathryn Sloan's piece on Friday "Why Every Social Media Manager Should be Under 25" and was angered by its content. Angered enough to comment -- twice, as well as to read through what are the now more than 400 comments. Like many of you, I probably used words in writing that I may have tempered more were Cathryn standing in front of me.


I'm a guy who followed the debate and also read and commented on Connor Toohill's own piece "On the Controversy: Cathryn Sloane's Social Media Article" that appeared the day after. And was still irritated because it seemed somewhat tone-deaf.


But you know what? I'm tired of being mad or offended at the piece and am going to try to make good by the 30 or 40 or 50-something social media pioneers, the generation that was not, as written by Cathryn, "up close and personal with all these developments [and]... the ones who can best predict, execute, and utilize the finest developments to come." I'm going to offer up some observations and lessons learned that will hopefully dampen the controversy and let us get back to what many of us do well -- regardless of our ages -- design, develop and execute successful social media campaigns.

What's your take? Sound off in the comments.

 
 
 

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05:15 AM on 08/03/2012
Young and brash. We all were once! (Wait... let me find my walker.) But I remember working with "dinosaurs" when I was 25 - I thought they were completely disconnected. It took me a few years to understand the bigger picture!

I must admit I sometimes think of myself as being outdated or a slow adaptor to the many social media outlets out ther - and I'm really not that much older and I think I'm pretty with it! What Cathy failed to realilze, however, is that social media isn't just about being active and social. For organizations, it also means being strategic. Can an under 25 fully grasp this without the experience? Perhaps there are exceptions but, as a norm, few can see the forest through the trees. That's what us older folks are here for. It's just a matter of having a balance between old and new.

I hope Cathy's able to move past her very public blunder and grow from the experience.
02:49 PM on 07/27/2012
Give her a break. She's young.
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06:02 PM on 07/26/2012
Us old folks don't hold a persons age and inexperience against them
03:10 PM on 07/24/2012
I don't think age is the factor - the factor that needs to concern everyone is the ability of the social media manager to be social, strategic and creative all at the same time as being professional.

Yes indeed the young folks (God, I cannot believe I just said that!) have started off life as more technically social than those of us who used a Commodore 64 Computer in High School Computer Science class... but just being social and comfortable networking by typing rather than face to face does not mean you can get all the factors in there that are vital for a 'business' to have online. That is the factor that matters, not age.
10:30 AM on 07/24/2012
Like with every form of communication there is an Art and a Science to Social Media. Just because one is under 25 does not mean they have a talent for the Art and does not mean they have studied the Science.
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08:59 PM on 07/23/2012
Cathy, Cathy, Cathy ... Insulting the intelligence of your coworkers is not on the list of good management skills. I guess this is something you never learned on Facebook or Twitter.
02:05 PM on 07/23/2012
I work with numerous social media managers over 40 who routinely run rings around their 25-and-younger contemporaries. There's an invaluable breadth of insight and context that experienced pros bring to a project. It's not just about pushing buttons, folks.
01:45 PM on 07/23/2012
Her article was bad, I think that's clear. I worry for the author though. Over 400 comments and no response or engagement from her at all? You need pretty tough skin to handle that much criticism, and some of it pretty harsh. I hope she is taking this in stride and learning from this experience. Where are you Miss Sloan?
12:22 PM on 07/23/2012
At first I was angry, being over 40, then I realised, before I angry typed that she has a point, but not the point she thinks she has. The social part of campaigns has to spend a lot of time with engagement. People who request a "social media campaign" dont like it when you show what needs to be done in terms of time spent engaging, that it hurts their budgeting. Young people engage with social media for free because they want to, and the converstaion oftem spirals around like people having a drink for a 4 hour session. They remember the night perhaps and can remember a few fun bits from the night socialising. The fun bit remembered is what a good SM campign should be about.
12:19 PM on 07/23/2012
Hi Jim,

I am the (in jest) "Angry Old Guy" and I appreciate your balanced approach to this piece. I wrote and believe that Cathryn messed up, but young people mess up sometimes. I know I did at that age, but there was not such a public setting to do so when I was 25.

Thanks for the link; my hope was that my post (which was graciously accepted by NextGenJournal - they did not have to run it) was that it would provide a different perspective and help quiet the firestorm a bit.

Thanks again.

Mark Story
"The Angry Old Guy"
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01:01 PM on 07/23/2012
I think they want traffic Mark and that's why they published your piece. But it was a good piece. Thanks for commenting.
11:46 AM on 07/23/2012
This blog is a great call to action for your generation to take the reins and seize control of your media. Are you all up to the challenge?
11:24 AM on 07/23/2012
Seems like a terrible argument to me, even as someone under 25. Would she argue the same for photographers or film directors? The 25 and under generation has had video recorders and cameras in their pockets as well as the ability to upload and search YouTube for nearly half their lives.
09:16 AM on 07/23/2012
It is interesting to read the defensiveness of many responders to Cathryn's premise. She's not wrong, but her POV may have been obscured by her youthful rebeliousness. (Hey, we've all been there.) We hired a social media strategist, Lori Lewis, 18 months ago. She's well outside the age range that Cathryn's theory would support, BUT she has great experience teaching and adminstering social platforms in the entertainment media - specifically, radio - environment. That's why she's valuable, even though she is technically not "native" to the space.

It's about adaptability. We are all capable of learning a foreign language - some of us are better than others. But it is possible to acquire the proper feel, vibe, and tone. J. K. Rowling wasn't 13 when she started writing the Harry Potter series, but she somehow intuited what would entertain that generation.

In our case, we are involved with strategy meetings and brainstorms with media companies big and small. While Lori is always at the front of the room, we recommend that there's always a twentysomething person in the room who truly lives and breathes this space. In that way, you have a resident expert checkinog the logic and the foundation of the premises and ideas that are created.

It's not either/or.
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02:28 AM on 07/23/2012
Oh my lord. Haven't these children heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Memory

For those who say they were around at the beginning: think again.

Sheesh.
12:51 AM on 07/23/2012
Naivete breeds ignorance; ignorance breeds arrogance. This is an excellent example of a young writing student struggling to be heard any way possible. With much of what she said, I question her true understanding of that which she (her generation) professes to master. What she is suggesting is that anyone over 25 is not capable of understanding a simple tool, that for most of us, only takes 20 minutes to understand and use, individually. (And I'm over 50.) We hire these young ones under 25, fresh out of college, and pay them 22k per year, to do more than play on Twitter and Facebook, until they finally move on. Sad but true. We pay the, what we call "true players," substantially more. In our industry, we believe that a proven successful work history, accompanied by macro/micro skill set, along with education will add more to our company than a young (under 25), freshly-minted college graduate with little or no experience. (Starbucks doesn't count.) In this case, those over the age of 25 with all the qualifications mentioned above "just get it."