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The Cain Mutiny

Posted: 09/26/11 03:23 PM ET

Rick Perry is looking wobbly. But he has been politically staggered before and recovered to win the fight. If he falters in his current effort, it will be the first time in his 26-year career of public service.

Analysts are busy writing obituaries for Perry's presidential aspirations and there are many of us who would like to attend that funeral. But his current predicament is only a transitory moment in the GOP primary. Herman Cain's Florida success has Republican Primary voters and big campaign donors wondering if Perry is good for the long, hard haul that is a run for the White House.

But what are their other choices?

Perry's bumpy performance in the debates has prompted these reconsiderations. Media trainers have taught him how to "bridge" away from questions and talk about whatever he wants but when he ignored the query about Pakistan and started rambling about selling planes to India he looked foolish. When he tried to describe the various versions of Mitt Romney he sounded a bit like George W. Bush struggling to recite the aphorism about not getting fooled again. And then Perry told his base supporters they didn't have a heart. But they aren't seeking either a legal separation or a divorce. His voters are just upset after a bit of a lover's quarrel.

They won't hook up with either Ron Paul or Michele Bachmann because neither of them have electability. And when those two candidates drop out of the race, their supporters will be left choosing between Perry, Romney, Cain, and maybe Huntsman. Cain's unfettered rhetoric offers a grand appeal and his 999 tax plan is simple enough for a broad group of voters to understand and embrace, and like Romney he has had great success in business. But he is new to politics on this scale and doubts about his electability will persist.

Which, basically, leaves Romney.

And the conservative wing of the GOP cannot forgive Romney's statewide health care plan in Massachusetts, and his constantly evolving positions on the Tea Party and evangelical issues like abortion, gay marriage, and global warming. Romney brings a disturbing level of rational thought to those topics and the right wing GOP base is not interested in listening. It already knows what it thinks. The primary voters re-thinking their Perry support after the debates and Florida aren't re-thinking what they already think about Mitt Romney.

A new CNN poll taken after the Cain mutiny in the Florida Straw Poll and subsequent to Perry's amateurish performance in the FOX News/Google debate shows Perry still with a comfortable 7-point lead over Romney. Everyone else is below 10 percent but the Bachmann and Paul vote together totals around 16 percent. As their campaigns fade and they are forced to confront reality, where, exactly, can their voters be expected to land?

Not in Romney's camp.

Perry's support will return. Straw polls and debates don't decide nominations and are only a small piece of what picks a president. George H. W. Bush was so bad in debates with Michael Dukakis that his lack of linguist skills was turned into a Saturday Night Live skit and everyone remembers how Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas stuck a shiv in Dan Quayle for comparing himself to John F. Kennedy. But nobody remembers a Dukakis-Bentsen administration.

The only place Rick Perry is going is further out in front of the GOP pack.

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ECBA88
04:56 PM on 09/27/2011
Is it really reasonable to assume that 100% of Ron Paul's supporters would vote in the Republican Primary if he weren't an option? To hear them tell it, it certainly isn't.
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Democrat in the South
Empathy, the most important word
10:07 AM on 09/27/2011
It is shameful that Americans have to be subjected to such ignorance.
10:00 AM on 09/27/2011
Until money is taken out of the system, and we have true campaign finance reform, the highest bidder on each side wins the right to choose who our candidates are. We only think we have a choice.
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noaxe397
09:10 AM on 09/27/2011
Question for conservatives: Why do you all think Chris Christie is a better alternative to Rick Perry? To hear conservatives tell it, the earth will stop spinning on its axis if Christie doesn't get into the race. I mean, the guy is a half term governor of a small (blue) east coat state who welcomed President Obama warmly after hurricane Irene. Why do you think this guy is better than 3 term, red state, gun tottin' Rick Perry? I'd really, and seriously, like to know.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
09:07 AM on 09/27/2011
Well one thing you can say about Perry is he fits all the criteria of a GOP candidate stupid enough to allow Corporate America to run the country, look at Bush he had eight years of Corporate malfunctions and made money over it!
11:38 AM on 09/27/2011
And large enough , to be4 the "Anti-Micheal Moore !"
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Mark MacDonald
Pass the Scotch
07:33 AM on 09/27/2011
When I taught high school I used to give my students a list of five questions. After looking at their answers, I could predict their opinions on nearly every topic under the sun with 90 to 95% accuracy. Grown-ups, Democrats or Republicans, liberals or conservatives, whites or blacks, men or women, short or tall, young or old, etc. or etc., are not at all different. People belief government should be bigger or they do not. People believe that abortion should be legal or they do not. People believe that anybody can be rich or they do not. People believe that global warming is occurring or they do not. Etc., etc., etc. Just as common is the fact that very few people ever change their core world views. Ever. Not even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary. Such is the need for the human species to always protect what it perceives as its most valuable appendage--its image of itself.
I used to have my students write a persuasive fact-based essay supporting a view with which they did not agree. With few exceptions, they simply could not do this in a manner that effectively supported the view. They simply could not. Almost all of them could not resist the temptation to somehow insert their own opinion on the topic they had chosen. Most people do not want to be educated, they want to be affirmed.
09:49 AM on 09/27/2011
Guilty. Sad, but true.
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RButler
I've always wanted to have everything I wanted
03:17 AM on 09/27/2011
Cain still has the 'right of return'. He can go back and punch the dough, spread the sauce, put on the cheese and pepperoni and slide it into a 600 degree oven. Let's not let the 'Peter Principle' take effect, folks.
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D-V-H
I am a Damn Liberal
11:33 PM on 09/26/2011
I won't be surprised if there are both GOP & Tea Party presidential candidates, especially if Romney wins the nomination.
11:24 PM on 09/26/2011
You're right, The more anti-democratic, anti-revolutionary, cruel, lying, vicous, theocratic, and authoritarian, the more they will support him. It's obvious that the Tea Party and those behind it are antithetical to a democratic republic. The Republican Party is the party of American Corporate Fascism.
01:14 AM on 09/27/2011
Well said! And you are right-- that base cannot get enough anti-democratic, cruel, viscious, theocratic authoritarianism.
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maspring
Causing trouble: One post at a time.
10:42 PM on 09/26/2011
"...Romney brings a disturbing level of rational thought to those topics..."

LOL
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sloyd
Return to original Republicanism to save America
09:24 PM on 09/26/2011
Rick Perry and Mitt Romney lost a lot of credibility if they even had any to start with, with their back and forth bickering the other night at the debate. They looked liked a bunch of women up there bickering and blaming the other for each of their own flip-flops and stances, actually that would be disrespectful towards women seeing they were actually worse than two women arguing over nonsense.
01:17 AM on 09/27/2011
Interesting use of stereotypical misogyny there. Spoken like a "real Republican," lol.
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RButler
I've always wanted to have everything I wanted
03:09 AM on 09/27/2011
Have you ever watched 'The View'? It's become acceptable to say obvious and mostly true observations are 'stereotypes' to deflect the criticisms.
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sloyd
Return to original Republicanism to save America
09:13 PM on 09/26/2011
As much as I like Cain, as he may be the only one I could vote for, there is a part of me that would rather just let Obama have another term. Once the country completely falls apart under his leadership or lack there of, then we can have a chance of rebuilding a nation as the original was founded after the revolution under the same Constitution, but without the hostile forces that have destroyed this one, as the Progressive doctrine has. Both major parties have had their hand in this destruction and must be disbanded and new parties based in true Republican principle formed.
10:55 PM on 09/26/2011
I do not see Progressive doctrine as that which will turn most ordinary people back into the paupers most ordinary people have been throughout history. I certainly see that as a major goal of those who have bought our political system, with your sweethearts 110% bought, paid for, and turning the tricks they have been paid to do. If I did not think that the other "side" was at least 95% owned by the same people, I might support them more than 5%-heartedly. There are no new territories to exploit, so the current crisis will extract from those who have a bit, and send it to those who really want it more, and have bought the system to ensure that float up replaces trickle down.
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Liviu
I support the right to arm the bears.
12:05 AM on 09/27/2011
The problem with your current political system stems from the old adage:
Power Corrupts; Absolute Power... you know the rest.
And having ONLY TWO major parties... they take power in turns, and sometimes even absolute power (read majority).
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Timothy2700
Voice Talent
08:31 PM on 09/26/2011
It really doesn't matter who the REPUBS pick, they will still be too far right to get elected.
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TitaniumAvatar
Sinister yet Dexterous
07:49 PM on 09/26/2011
Even the Tea Party questions Rick Perry's intelligence.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
09:36 PM on 09/26/2011
My guess is that they already have determined his intelligence. It just doesn't matter to them. Belief trumps facts for these people.
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Pyrum
02:53 AM on 09/27/2011
Rick Perry has been trying to pander to the tea party, but he's not a teapartier himself, and the teapartiers know that.
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RButler
I've always wanted to have everything I wanted
03:14 AM on 09/27/2011
I've been questioning the tea party's intelligence.
07:37 PM on 09/26/2011
As an Independent, I would like to see Hunstman and Cain as the Republican ticket. The beat Obama!
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
09:37 PM on 09/26/2011
Huntsman almost seems normal, so his chances are at about zero.