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Hate Your Boss? Ask Yourself if Gender Bias is to Blame

Posted: 11/28/11 06:17 PM ET

co-written with Rachel Dempsey

Once a year or so, a study or trend piece comes out about why women are bad to work for. Like Good Morning America's "Bad Female Boss? She May Have Queen Bee Syndrome." Or The Daily Mail's "Men are the best bosses: Women at the top are just too moody (and it's women themselves who say so)." Or Oprah Magazine's "When Good Women Make Bad Bosses." And then there's popular culture: from "Working Girl" to "The Devil Wears Prada," the evil female boss is almost as tired a trope as the prostitute with a heart of gold.

The most recent addition to the canon comes in the form of the article "Not One Legal Secretary Preferred to Work with Women Lawyers," published on the ABA Journal's website. Based on a study of legal secretaries by law professor Felice Batlan, the story created an uproar, as women's groups and activists protested that the article perpetuated stereotypes of women lawyers.

The response was understandable: these articles do perpetuate stereotypes. But the solution is not to ignore the issue altogether, but rather to recognize this storyline as illustrating one of the most pernicious and overlooked types of gender bias. When women experience bias in the workplace, it can often turn into conflicts between women, a phenomenon we call gender wars.

One of the reasons legal secretaries prefer to work for men is obvious: in most law firms, men hold the power. (Nationwide, only 19% of law firm partners are women.) A secretary's prestige is likely higher if she works for a powerful partner. So the fact that many women secretaries prefer to work with men proves not that women lawyers are difficult but that secretaries are rational actors functioning in a sexist environment.

That's just one of the dynamics at work. Women are also frequently stereotyped as too emotional. Said one secretary: "I just feel that men are more flexible and less emotional than women." Another described female lawyers as "too emotional and demeaning." It's possible that these particular secretaries worked with bosses who were actually too emotional. But studies suggest that men's anger is likely to be seen as legitimate, while women's is seen as irrational or hormonal, so it may also have been a matter of different interpretations of similar behavior. Although the secretaries interviewed were women, that doesn't make them immune to bias against women.

In some ways, the fact that the secretaries interviewed in the study were women actually makes them more susceptible to bias against women. Women lawyers fill a traditionally masculine role, while their secretaries fill a traditionally feminine one. All professional women find themselves walking a tightrope between masculinity and femininity, and when people choose different approaches to how they walk the tightrope, conflict often breaks out. "Secretaries are expected to engage in traditionally feminine behavior such as care giving and nurtur[ing], where[as] women attorneys are supposed to engage in what is stereotypically more masculine behavior. Given these very different expectations and performances of gender that occur in the same space, the potential for conflict is enormous," Batlan concludes.

As a result of this bias, women need to provide more evidence of competence than men, a pattern that the secretaries themselves observed. "It would seem as if female associates/partners feel they have something to prove to everyone," noted one secretary. "Females are harder on their female assistants, more detail-oriented, and they have to try harder to prove themselves, so they put that on you," said another. Because women's mistakes are noticed and remembered while men's are soon forgotten, women partners may feel they have more to lose if they, or their assistant, make a mistake, and may as a result be harsher with their secretaries.

As is always the case with gender wars, both groups of women are disadvantaged by gender. Secretarial jobs are undervalued, underpaid, and have little or no career track -- the classic ways women are disadvantaged when they do "women's work." Women lawyers are disadvantaged by gender in different ways, as explained above. Gender wars arise because each group of women is disadvantaged in different ways that pit them against each other. Note that we are not faulting either the attorneys or the secretaries. Probably the secretaries need to become more aware that women can engage in gender bias, and attorneys (male and female) need to become more aware of the gender bias that causes them to devalue the important work secretaries do.

The key message is not for individuals, but for organizations. Automatic bias is built into the automatic, everyday-ness of workplace interactions and identities, and will persist until it is identified and organizational structures are put in place to correct it. Organizations that face gender wars need to recognize them not as evidence that women would progress if only they could get along, but as a particularly sensitive indicator that gender bias is built into their business systems. Any organization plagued by gender wars has work to do if it intends to give a fair shake to women -- both lawyers and secretaries.

 

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08:40 PM on 12/05/2011
Two points, one specific and one general. First, from my experience, legal secretaries are hardly underpaid. I don't think they're OVERpaid, either-- high five figures at the firm I worked for, and I don't doubt that the firm got its money's worth-- but there are much lower-hanging fruit out there, like nurses or teachers.

Second, more generally-- I get that the evidence presented in these "studies" is anecdotal and overblown. The news media has never been renowned for its ability to tell good statistics from the Disraelian variety. But where are the (reputable) social-science studies refuting it? Bad evidence is, well, bad-- but it's surely better than no evidence at all.
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01:11 PM on 12/04/2011
I'm sure some of what you say is true. But having worked in corporate environments for over 25 years, I also believe "the Queen Bee syndrome" really does exist. To me it's the grown-up version of the head of the popular girls' clique in high school in which no one dare contradict the leader. To do so comes at your own peril, and retaliation is often the result. Women are socialized to compete against other women for the attentions of men. What makes us think that changes in the office? For every woman manager who is collaborative, there are three more who are Queen Bees.

I also believe there may be another factor at work, however sub-conscious it may be: women can't use their female charm and sexuality to get ahead with other women. That tactic is completely taken out of the female employee's arsenal, much to their frustration. So they blame it on the boss who is "unreasonable" or "just doesn't get it".

And I can't tell you how many female clients I had in my career who preferred dealing with male account managers for the reasons stated above. Even within the company, if you didn't play the low-cut blouse game in dealing with male managers, you were labeled as "not a good people person" or simply replaced by a woman who did. Insane. But reality, I'm afraid.
06:26 PM on 12/01/2011
I have been a female boss and have gotten along very well with people who worked for my firm, male and female. Employees at other firms would practically beg me to hire them away because our office was more fun, had no sexual harassment and people were treated as individuals and with respect. I always maintained a good work environment, hired smart people whom I respected, tired to inject fun and light-heartedness into the workday, let employees bring their animals to the office now and again, and we ate a lot of chocolate, it was all good.

I found women overall to make better employees in that they were less emotional, had better temperaments and had fewer ego needs and better judgment than males.

I think this business about nasty female bosses is mostly a patriarchal myth.
09:18 PM on 12/03/2011
I am in tech, 30+ years. It may be a bit unusual for tech but I have had several women bosses. I personally would avoid working for a woman like avoiding the plague. Only one I could say cared about those that worked for her, I admired the job she was doing. But the rest essentially would sacrifice everyone beneath them to look good to their bosses. Got one now. Not that there are not men who do this as well, got one of those in our group too. But from my experience all but one woman boss has been terrible. Their views on what is important in life, to my of thinking, is warped. I put life over work anytime, these bosses work was everything. For one it got really bad when she got divorced. She turned on any man under her. After a few months her boss placed her into a job not supervising anyone, after 1/3 of our our team left the company in under 6 months.

Just my experience in that woman, for the most part, drive harder for success then the male. I hope others have not had this experience.
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10:47 PM on 12/03/2011
I was with you right up until you said "I found women overall to make better employees in that they were less emotional, had better temperamen­ts and had fewer ego needs and better judgment than males." After reading and re-reading that sentence I knew you were just making it up. I bet most of what you claim if either pure fiction or extreme embellishment. Pity.
05:07 PM on 12/04/2011
You are free to think what you want, and to nurture prejudices, delusions, or denying reality.

Nonetheless, I have been both an employee and employer and have supervised females and males. The Labor Department and I agree that female employees are often preferable. In the male the ego and the need for hierarchy and competition is strong; the ego thing results in conflict rather than cooperation. Additionally, men too frequently bring sex into the workplace in an inappropriate or illegal way. Men too often create disharmony and an unpleasant atmosphere in the office and cause personnel problems. Obviously, there are exceptions and this does not apply to all males.

Women are taught to be people pleasers and this often makes them wonderful employees. They strive to keep the bosses and the clients happy. And the office atmosphere in a workplace populated by bright optimistic creative women is most excellent. Tasks get completed without a lot of drama, with humor and good energy and cooperation.

Those are my general conclusions. While overall my preference is for working with and hiring women, it is also clear that the individual personality and character are most important and my teams work much better when I have been able to do the hiring than when I have been assigned to manage a team someone else hired.
03:42 PM on 11/30/2011
One final thing worth mentioning - Murphy Brown is the only TV show I can think of that really insulted secretaries. Most other sit coms showed them as capable people. I think the producer of the show was a woman. That's the kind of thing that doesn't make secretaries get along with more powerful women.
03:40 PM on 11/30/2011
Sometimes women bosses also feel a stronger need to prove that they aren't secretaries. This can play out in ways that come across as looking down on secretaries.
03:38 PM on 11/30/2011
I've heard too many stories of women who faced discrimination going back to work from other women. They felt that this was because of the conflict between moms in the paid labor force versus moms taking care of children. They had better luck with male bosses. Perhaps in the past women were more on the same side, but now the divisions and feelings about personal choices sometimes get in the way.
12:21 PM on 11/30/2011
hmmmm....what is missing here is women also compare themselves to other women? so if you are younger, prettier than your boss....it is deadly on a daily basis.

Where if that is the case with men, they actually like you...

and it is not sexism but just reality!
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08:46 PM on 11/29/2011
I think women bosses are harder to work because I am a 46 yr old female. I've been in the workplace over 20 yrs and not easily impressed, nor would any attention from me be as flattering to a female boss, as it is coming from a male employee of any age. I believe it would be easier for me if I were younger and less intimidating to most of the female bosses I've had who usually are a few years younger than me.
03:43 PM on 11/29/2011
Men are biased toward women therefore women cannot succeed. Women are biased toward Women therefore women cannot succeed. Just stop complaining, you've created a full circle where you have no one else to blame but yourselves.
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10:47 AM on 11/29/2011
Women are set up to fail. They have to obey an impossible dammed if they do damned if they don't paradox. They can never win. They must be "feminine" but "masculine qualities" are actually the qualities that are admired throughout society. If she behaves in an admirable way she is not feminine. If she is feminine she is not admirable. This contradiction is why women seem permanently confused, ambivalent, and unable to really commit to a course of action. They are always wrong somehow.

And women having been brainwashed with this dichotomy that is throughout all of society their entire lives have internalized it. They therefore often treat other women with disdain and reserve all their respect for men. Women have to be willing to be NOT "feminine" if they are too succeed. And just brush off the inevitable attacks that they will get for their disobedience.
06:28 PM on 11/29/2011
Tell that line of crap to the two all the women out their succeeding so they an educate you on what it really takes to get ahead in life. Hint: it's not blaming men.

Women who treat other women badly should be judged poorly by other women at the least. Why don't you tell these mean bosses to stop abusing their employees and show some support for these legal secretaries. It's sad how elitist women would rather blame men than take on each other. The original article was written by a women who considered herself a feminist and she laid out the realities of the work place. The men are simply nicer to their legal secretaries and that is the issue. It was very well detailed in the piece.

If you keep telling women they can do no wrong then don't be surprised when they abuse each other. Treat them like whole adult human beings that can be fully accountable for their actions. That's is equality, not hiding behind overplayed sentiments of victim hood and man blaming.
05:38 PM on 12/03/2011
I don't think the men have it so easy these days either.
12:06 AM on 11/29/2011
I dont think I can stereotype and say either way that men or women make worse bosses. I've had bad bosses of both genders in amount the same ratio of badness. I dont have a preference for whether my boss is male or female, but if I had to choose I'd say male. Men tend to be nicer to women they find attractive.
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08:49 PM on 11/29/2011
A better term isn't nicer, the men are nice to me and I'm older. What it is, is that if you are a PYT, all the males, no matter how ancient, smile in a dumb and in love way and hang onto her every word like it's a gem coming out of the PYT's mouth. One of the PYTs I do like is presently in the office, she travels alot, but she is pretty damn nice to everyone.
12:30 AM on 12/01/2011
Haha... well, yes. that.
09:58 PM on 11/28/2011
I find the articles in this section very confusing... women are either nurturers or their the worst, but only to other females.

Just goes to show you can't fight sexism with generalizations.
08:45 PM on 12/05/2011
This, basically.

Lots of random speculation being thrown around, and virtually no hard evidence to back it up on any front.
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07:39 PM on 11/28/2011
This is just depressingly familiar to me. I have had good and bad bosses both male and female, but I would really hate to think that all complaints against female bosses can be retraced to gender bias. All I can say is the best boss I ever had was a woman, and the worst bosses (and most dishonest) were men.
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09:09 AM on 11/30/2011
my worst bosses were men too, but one woman comes to mind that came pretty close. she wasn't mean, but her learning curve was non-existent. 5 years after i left that job, she was still calling around asking "how do i price this job" ? if you don't know by now how much your labor costs, how much your overhead is, and how much your materials cost, you need to stop kidding yourself that you know how to run a business.