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Joanne Doroshow

Posted: February 11, 2010 02:09 PM

Medical Malpractice Survivors Speak About Against "Tort Reform"

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We were certainly happy to see some great pieces this week attacking the truly nasty efforts by Republicans who want to use injured patients as their health insurance reform "bargaining chip." There's a great blog from Andrew Cohen (Murrow Award-winning journalist and one of the nation's leading legal analysts and commentators) in The Atlantic Online and - pinch me now - The Economist, which particularly objects to so-called "tort reform" when there's no safety net for people like here in the U.S., to wit, "A system where doctors are rich, patients have no guarantees, and only patients have to make sacrifices is unacceptable."

But who can deliver a more poignant message than those who are among the hundreds of thousands actually killed or injured each year due to medical negligence, those who have been through the legal system and some of whom were victimized twice due to "tort reform" in their state. (Yes, most states already have already enacted some type of "tort reform" cruelty.)

They sent a letter to President Obama today, as well as to the Congressional leadership. Here's some of what they said:

As survivors of medical negligence and as patient safety advocates, we are writing to you again about the issue of medical malpractice and so-called "tort reform." Many of us have family members who were lost or severely injured as a result of medical negligence. While the insurance and medical lobbies continue to attack us, it has been extremely heartening to know that, so far, you have stood strongly on our behalf, and on behalf of all patients.


However, we are extremely concerned that this issue will again be raised as part of the bipartisan health care summit that you announced for February 25. We urge you to please keep additional "tort reforms" out of the health insurance reform bill, beyond what the House and Senate have already agreed to. This would include proposals like "caps" on compensation for families who need these funds to survive; one-sided use of clinical guidelines as a means of removing accountability for providers (we believe patient safety will suffer from such a "one size fits all" approach especially given conflicts of interest by those who would develop these guidelines); systems that involuntarily remove cases from the jury system; and any other proposal that is onerous, unfair to patients and prevents legitimate cases from going forward.

Many of us have the misfortune of living in states with "caps" and other laws that make it difficult or impossible to have cases heard before judges and juries. We have heard some commentators say lately that there is "no downside" to tort reform. They need to spend a day in our shoes.

These laws have had terrible consequences for us, for injured patients who have been shut out of courts altogether, and for patient safety, in general. They have also burdened taxpayers since some of us have had to turn to taxpayer-funded health and disability programs to provide for our injured family-member. It would be a tragic mistake to impose such "tort reform" laws on the rest of the country. Please remember:

  • The extent of medical errors is a real crisis; hospitals are unsafe and the doctor discipline system is a national disgrace.
  • Proposals that reduce the accountability of unsafe hospitals and incompetent doctors will lead to more errors and system costs.
  • Liability limits shift costs of caring for malpractice victims from perpetrators of malpractice to state Medicaid systems and taxpayers.
  • Even if you imposed the most severe limits on patients' rights, savings would total at most only one-half of one percent of total health care costs.

Provision of medical care should never be accomplished by taking away the right to trial by jury for someone who was injured through no fault of their own, or reducing the accountability of anyone who commits wrongdoing. Medical malpractice has taken a huge toll on all of our lives, as it has on the hundreds of thousands killed or injured each year due to preventable medical errors. Please continue to explore ways to improve patient safety and reduce unnecessary deaths, not diminish accountability for wrongdoers, limit our right to have cases heard before judges and juries, and burden taxpayers with the bill.

Go to the letter for a full description of the signers and their stories.

 
 
 

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11:41 AM on 02/13/2010
JD Doroshow,

Where can we learn more about the specific funding of your organization? As a disciple of Ralph Nader, I am sure that you would like this information to be publicly available.

Thanks in advance.
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Helzapoppin
Don't Piss Down My Back And Tell Me It's Raining.
01:22 PM on 02/13/2010
seriously, get over yourself
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Joanne Doroshow
Executive Director, Center for Justice & Democracy
07:22 PM on 02/13/2010
Huff Post readers fund us. In fact, if any more would like to donate, we welcome your support. Donations are tax-deductible!
10:15 AM on 02/13/2010
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bronx-jury-awards-60-million-dollars-to-woman-in-medical-malpractice-case-62204917.html

Oh yes, JD Doroshow, not a lottery system at all. 60 million for a damaged labia. Yes, this may be reduced, but that doesn't make it right in the first place. Exhibit A for caps on pain and suffering.
10:00 AM on 02/13/2010
The insurance system is controlled by the state insurance commissioner (a political appointee), the industry and lawyers. State medical organization could be forceful, to overhaul medical malpractice (which occurs). I would rather see negligent doctors disbarred. But attorneys and likely patients do not want this. Despite pious pronouncements, in America there is justice only in money.

Healthcare dollars should be used for patient-care. And not to support a whole medico-legal industry NOR serve as a system where a disabled person is supported (for a life-time) by public funds, regardless of cause - as in a case of birth-defects or other mishap beyond reasonable control of the physician. The fact that 85% of medical lawsuits are thrown out after going over them (with the benefit of hindsight) by a fine tooth-comb by multiple experts. This suggest that vast majority of medical care, even in suspected cases of malpractice, met high standards.

To put it bluntly, the philosophical issue is: "Shit happens - Does society have to pay?" America is no longer a rich country that can pay for the same disability multiple times.

Your organization has a honorable role to play in overhauling the malpractice (litigious) system. You can make it efficient, just and fair to all; or work to continue the present path of waste and inefficiency, which impacts the economic viability of the country as a whole.
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Joanne Doroshow
Executive Director, Center for Justice & Democracy
06:53 PM on 02/13/2010
Well, you're just not correct about how the system works (and see comment from insurance defense relative below.) The Harvard School of Public Health found that legitimate claims are being paid, non-legitimate claims are generally not being paid, and “portraits of a malpractice system that is stricken with frivolous litigation are overblown.” David M. Studdert, Michelle Mello, et al., “Claims, Errors, and Compensation Payments in Medical Malpractice Litigation,” New England Journal of Medicine, May 11, 2006. They said, “The profile of non-error claims we observed does not square with the notion of opportunistic trial lawyers pursuing questionable lawsuits in circumstances in which their chances of winning are reasonable and prospective returns in the event of a win are high. Rather, our findings underscore how difficult it may be for plaintiffs and their attorneys to discern what has happened before the initiation of a claim and the acquisition of knowledge that comes from the investigations, consultation with experts, and sharing of information that litigation triggers.” Most cases are clear cut and they settle if there was negligence. Harvard found that only 15 percent of claims were decided by trial verdict. Other research says 10 percent. So your statistics are way off. And if the wrongdoer is let off the hook, you and every taxpayer ends up taking care of a catastrophically injured child for their lifetime. That is what has happened to some of the families signing this letter.
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08:41 AM on 02/13/2010
"Tort Reform" is the perennial right-wing canard, right along with "tax cuts solve everything." The impact of malpractice litigation on health care costs is negligible. Reducing or eliminating malpractice suits would solve nothing.

The U.S. Constitution enshrines the rights of citizens to seek redress of grievances in a court of law. It is the backbone of a civil society. With a legislature alternately incompetent, unresponsive and/or simply unconcerned, the courts also increasingly become Americans' last refuge of justice and accountability. The more that right is whittled away with "tort reform," the more Americans are disenfranchised from justice. And when that happens, the likelihood increases that people will seek out other, less "civil" means of satisfaction. And that is when societies crumble into chaos.
02:17 PM on 02/12/2010
Med mal claims guy since 1985. real reform:

- a jury of peers for docs, they dont get'em. Caps for pain and suffering only, you pick the upper limit. Awarding money - pain a subjective compensated with objective mean$ cant be done fairly.
- Get more money to the injured party.
- use arbitration, you get your day in court, just a different forum, recent Florida case awarded 11 mil to a patient, so skip docs protecting docs nonsense. In court 2 month limit to get it all done soup2nutz
- The problem with the cost of healthcare is the cost of healthcare.- period! A license to steal.
- Repeal McCarron ferguson so the blue chips are affected by competition nationwide
- loser pays the costs .

I could go on and on. The truth is nobody really wants to fix this, too much money involved. Most of the thousand cases that I have settled since 1985 have some element of fatigue, poor communication, especially at shift changes, and /or poor staffing. Pay the money to nurses and get more of them

One last thing med mal has nothing to do with the cost of Healthcare. They do not provide care , they are just brokers. Defensive medicine yields just an expensive diagnosis. See the mandated HC of Hawaii, tested 40 years and applauded by all.

Lets see- you pay a large premium, you have a large deductible to meet before they pay and then a co-pay. So what do
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Joanne Doroshow
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09:57 PM on 02/12/2010
I'm sorry, the comment seems a bit incoherent. I think you're trying to say that as an insurance claims adjuster, you are a credible source on issues related to the third branch of government and the rights of all Americans. With all due respect, and although you make a good point about the McCarran-Ferguson Act, which exempts the insurance industry from anti-trust laws (this must be repealed), how about we just let judges and juries do their job, instead of insurance claims adjusters, politicians and the government stepping in and telling them what they can and can't do. That might work better.
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01:47 PM on 02/12/2010
Ok, the main problem with all those promoting tort reform by claiming that lawyers just sue doctors to get rich is that they're assuming juries award damages for bogus cases. My husband is an attorney, and one of his major clients is a medical malpractice insurance company. He does not sue doctors, he defends them. And guess what? Sometimes these doctors make gross mistakes - removing the wrong limb, stuff like that. Sometimes, a patient dies, a baby is stillborn, and it's heartbreaking, but it's unpreventable. And sometimes, patients file bogus claims and sue for ridiculous reasons - and guess what? My husband wins all of his cases in the doctors favor. When it is obvious to all involved that the doctor is at fault, 9 times out of 10 they settle the case.
I'm sick of people acting like doctors deserve even more special treatment than they already get. They want more tort reform? Doctors malpractice suits already have a shorter statute of limitations than other civil suits. Doctors are already a protected class. But they've convinced the very people that they think they are better than to fight for doctors rights to be basically untouchable and unaccountable for their mistakes. And trust me, most of my friends are doctors, and they do think they are better than you.
07:22 PM on 02/12/2010
The winner / bandit in all malpractice lawsuits is the defense lawyer.
Whatever happens to the case, the defense lawyer always goes away filled.
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01:42 PM on 02/12/2010
As a nation we're COZY with the idea of 40 some THOUSAND Americans dying every year due to health care ACCESS problems alone. That doesn't include those who had access but couldn't afford treatment or who died due to malpractice.

So the idea that our congress is going to listen to people who SURVIVED our "health care system" is laughable.

Sorry folks. The pattern of our future is clear. Plenty of cheap guns but no access to courts or politicians for the rabble. So stock up, load up, and start speaking the preferred language of our "system".
12:38 PM on 02/12/2010
I find it admirable that your organization has no problems with trial lawyers, given that they are so selfless and uninterested in monetary gain. Would you please let us know what roughly what percentage of your funding is from trial lawyers? As a non-profit, is this information publicly available?
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Joanne Doroshow
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01:32 PM on 02/12/2010
"Pzhang", this is like your sixth negative comment. If you or anyone have something of substance to add to this debate, I'm happy to respond with substance, as you can see. Otherwise, I think it's time for you to go harass another blogger. Take care.
03:41 PM on 02/12/2010
OK, then just respond to the above question. Its a fair one given the thinly veiled "letter" written above
11:18 AM on 02/12/2010
Despite rhetoric often spouted by the misinformed or those who chose ignorance in pursuit of financial gain, America's health care is far from #1 in the world.

It 's been estimated that 196,000 Americans died each year from medical errors in 2000-2002, up from 98,000 in 1999.

Just last week U.S. Representative John Murtha died from a complication due to surgical error.

I've had, and seen, my share of surgeries. Not all of them successful. Yet I support tort reform, it is needed.

Not to protect bad doctors, or more charitably bad outcomes, but to reign in legal costs. Those million dollar settlements that many are so upset about when they read them. fail to take into consideration that in most cases a vast majority of the award goes to attorney fees. I understand the reasoning behind the contingency fee system. Supposedly it provides access to the courts that most would otherwise be unable to afford. The problem is, it simply doesn't work. How do you justify a system where the injured party can (and sometimes does) receive 10% of an award while the lawyers get 90%. There has to be a better way.

While we're at it, we NEED to reform a medical system that allows so many bad outcomes. Doctors in my younger days seemed to care more about their patients then they do now. Now it seems the practice of medicine is all about money. at least from my perspective.
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Joanne Doroshow
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11:45 AM on 02/12/2010
The vast majority of contingency fees for lawyers who are fighting for their clients are 1/3 the judgment. You can read more about this here: http://centerjd.org/archives/issues-facts/stories/MB_2007lawyers.php The victims with whom we work are fine with this because the attorneys front all the costs, which can be in tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. Seems everyone else is complaining. As to what is going on with verdicts and settlements, that's just incorrect. Read this and the full study: http://www.insurance-reform.org/pr/090722.html "Thirty years of inflation-adjusted data show that medical malpractice premiums are the lowest they have been in this entire period. This is in no small part due to the fact that claims have fallen like a rock, down 45 percent since 2000."
05:01 PM on 02/12/2010
We all formulate our opinions based on our personal knowledge, and or experience. I happen to live in one of the 27 states that have no limit on attorneys fees. You are doubtless correct that the vast majority of lawyers are paid 1/3 the judgment. I, however am also correct that there have been cases where the "victim" received 10% of the settlement.

My complaint with the contingency fee structure is that there is no direct connection between the effort put into a case, and the financial reward to the individual attorney presenting it. An ethical lawyer could spend hundreds of hrs on a case where their final payment might be 20-30,000 dollars. On the other end of the spectrum is the lawyer that chooses to propose a settlement in his OWN best interest. In essence, recommend the maximum amount that his experience has taught him the opposing party will settle for "out of court", thereby limiting his case load exponentially. A two hour conversation, a couple of letters, and $5-15,000 in virtually instant pocket change. These lawyers have incomes in the hundreds of thousands. Lack of ethics is financially rewarded. There is more than one side to any issue.

Kudo's to those attorneys who practice ethical law.

It would have been better had you indicated in your tagline that you represented a legal association rather than the "Center for Justice & Democracy" Had I been more aware of your status, I would not have left comment.
10:19 AM on 02/12/2010
My father almost died from medical malpractice. We harbor lots of ill-will against the doctor that committed it, but were unable to sue because of caps in California. Now that it is a distant memory, we see that getting more money wouldn't have made the ordeal any better. It would not have changed the doctor's behaviour, I think he honestly believes that he did nothing wrong - anyone can misdiagnose, and mistakes happen. Much more frequently we are the victim of the opposite behaviour, expensive and painful tests that are not needed but that cover the doctor's butt so he can say he considered everything. I don't think we can have a society where everybody constantly sues everybody. Do we sue the car repairman when the car isn't fixed well enough? Sue the painter when the paint buckles 11 months later? I realize these aren't life and death, but people ned to understand that life has risks, people die, people get injured, and doctors are not robots or miricle workers. If a doctor is bad take away his license, but don't subject the rest of the population to needless tests, drugs, and procedures just to stay out of court.
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Joanne Doroshow
Executive Director, Center for Justice & Democracy
11:53 AM on 02/12/2010
I'm very sorry about your Dad. Mine father likely died of medical negligence, but like the vast majority of victims, we also did not sue. The Harvard Medical Practice study found that eight times as many patients are injured by medical malpractice as ever file a claim; 16 times as many suffer injuries as receive any compensation. Yet thank goodness some do sue, because lawsuits actually do promote safety. http://www.insurance-reform.org/issues/MedMalLitigationSafetyFactSheet2009F.html
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10:05 AM on 02/12/2010
I was widowed at 52 because my husband's doctor failed to send him to a specialist when he should have seen one. Three weeks before my husband died, he was in a local hospital for 5 days with an eye infection. The staff at the hospital acted as if they had admitted an eyeball to the hospital and nothing else. He showed bloody tissues to anyone who would look and complained of his lungs hurting and the staff just blew him off. His own doctor didn't even look in on him while he was there. When he got out of the hospital, he called his MD and demanded an appointment with a specialist. He died 2 weeks later. My children are all grown, so I'm not left raising them alone, but I am left alone and impoverished. The GOP would have me live in squalor for the rest of my life for a mistake made by a doctor and a hospital!!
schatsie
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07:05 PM on 02/12/2010
Bingo!
08:54 AM on 02/12/2010
JD Doroshow, I found this letter to be deeply moving. Would you mind letting me know which one of the medical malpractice supporters actually wrote it?
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Joanne Doroshow
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09:37 AM on 02/12/2010
No one individual.
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Rogan
05:44 AM on 02/12/2010
The fact of the matter is, as any American suffering from a chronic condition can tell you: the doctors in this country are, on the micro-level, incompetent all-too often; and there is absolutely no way to hold doctors accountable, for the shabby jobs that most of them insist on doing.

This is a cultural problem, and the fact that anyone actually believes further "tort reform" is necessary, is a reflection primarily of how many of us are lucky enough to have never been seriously ill.
02:20 PM on 02/12/2010
It is actually scary how little doctors know. For the past 8 years, I have been ill. I was diagnosed with "chronic fatigue" in 2001. I saw many doctors from 2001 to 2006, immunologists, endocrinologists, and all told me to eat right and exercise. Some endocrinologists would not even see me because my thyroid levels were supposedly normal. I finally found a wonderful endocrinologist on the internet who finally listened to me and started treating my for hypothyroidism and adrenal fatigue. I have to fly to Southern California to see him, but he has turned my life around. I am now looking forward to possibly going back to work!

I am so glad that I have some medical background. Without my self-diagnosis and dogged determination to find a physician who actually knew what he was doing, I would still be really sick today. I feel very sorry for people that are at the mercy of many of these physicians who should never have graduated from medical school in the first place.
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04:54 PM on 02/12/2010
That's what gets me, that others have it worse than I do.

I've had a severe back problem for many years; it finally blossomed into something painful and crippling in 2001... I had no insurance, so I paid cash as long as I could, but couldn't find a primary care physician or rheumatologist willing to take a real shot at diagnosing me - they just tried different drugs, one after another, for a year or two... then I couldn't work anymore, so I had to sign up for Mass Health... and that's when doctors started lying to me, systematically, enough doctors to comprise a really firghtening sample... I started ordering all the medications I needed from overseas, because no one would prescribe painkillers, or muscle relaxants, or steroids... I had to try eight or nine primary care physicians, before I found one willing to refer me to a back specialist... in fact, he wouldn't - he insisted I see a psychiatrist, and the psychiatrist was taken aback that I hadn't been sent to the appropriate specialist... so the psychiatrist sent me to a rheumatologist, who took x-rays, and diagnosed ankylosing spondylitis, a condition that, among other things, is pretty easy to diagnose with just x-rays...

Anyway, now that I'm starting to find the doctors I need, useful, dedicated doctors, I often think about how much worse it is for patients who aren't educated, who don't have extensive personal "networking" resources, or even fluent English... it breaks my heart.
04:51 AM on 02/12/2010
There are victims of medical malpractice, and victims of specious lawsuits. We also have a culture in which there is a tendency to believe that every bad outcome justifies blaming or suing someone. Since 15 % of the doctors commit most of the malpractice but nearly all are sued at some point in time, most malpractice suits are dragging innocent people into the courtroom.

I don't defend either incompetent doctors or bad medical discipline systems, but since most of the doctors sued have not committed malpractice and the experience of being a litigant is so costly and draining, there is a reality that can't be avoided. ANY doctor who wants to avoid being sued - particularly by someone as hostile to professionals and biased as this blogger - will order that extra test, suggest the extra biopsy for an uncertain mammogram, order the most expensive drug for the demanding patient when science suggests that less costly measures would be at least as good or better for the patient. As long as people like this blogger demand open season even on ethical doctors, just based on the ALLEGATION of a mistake, smart doctors will practice defensively. Perhaps the Huffington post could offer equal time to a practicing physician.
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Joanne Doroshow
Executive Director, Center for Justice & Democracy
07:28 AM on 02/12/2010
The reason a lot of doctors are sued (I don't know where you get 100 % - that's ridiculous and completely unsupported) and later dropped is because of state statute of limitations laws. Some doctors are pulled into lawsuits initially before the patient has a chance to learn everything that happened, because if they are not, the statute of limitations could run for those eventually found responsible. Many are eventually dismissed from the case, but why put them through this? This can be solved by changing state statute of limitations laws to “enterprise” notification. In other words, rather than requiring a patient to commence a lawsuit against every potential defendant, the law should toll the statute of limitations against all health care providers for injuries and damages arising from the events referred to in a complaint, save for one defendant who is initially sued. If later it is discovered that one or more others are also responsible, they can be brought into the case at that time. In terms of defensive medicine, Congressional Budget Office found that this amounts to .2% of health care costs - it's tiny. Even CBO found this hardly exists under managed care.
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07:49 AM on 02/12/2010
The system is set up to weed out specious lawsuits at many points in the process, especially early on in the case. Going to trial is what's expensive, and specious cases don't make it that far. Funny we don't hear about all those DOCTORS being left homeless and destitute because they had to produce discovery about their role in a patient's care that left the PATIENT mangled and destitute. Physicians are very well compensated and can count the cost of answering for their professional behavior as a cost of gaining all that wealth. Boo hoo.
12:15 AM on 02/13/2010
You are wrong about specious lawsuits being dropped early. It is not in the interest of the defense lawyers to argue upfront that there is no merit in the case. During the discovery phase, the defense lawyers are the only ones on "easy street'; and they drag the discovery phase out for 3-5 years.

Doctors including negligent doctors do not pay for the medical malpractice judgement. Malpractice insurance companies pay and pass the cost on to all doctors; who then pass it on to all patients / public.

So it is the patients and the public that is left homeless and destitute due to:
1. Increased healthcare costs.
2. Physicians who will not accept patients who do not have good insurance.
3. Patients who refuse to follow their doctors advice and care for themselves.
05:04 PM on 02/11/2010
Oh pulleese! This is not written by medical malpractice survivors. This is a regurgitation of every press release the trial lawyers have put out for the last two decades. They should have at least attempted to write original commentary instead of the same ambulance chasing talking points. "Center for Executive Justice" = Trial Lawyers Association. They changed the name because people know what trial lawyer means. I am willing to bet that Joanne Doroshow = Trial attorney. Why is it that attorneys never look towards limiting the amount that an attorney can claim of the amount that a victim receives??
07:24 PM on 02/11/2010
According to Public Citizen 15% of doctors commit 85% of the malpractice.

In addition approximately 85% regardless of proof lose their malpractice suits. You only hear about outrageouos settlements because the news media reports the unusual not the common.

My case was in the courts for 14 years (not a typo) The doctor who committed malpractice on me, Dr. Peter Jannetta, was called a perjuror by the Pa Superior Court ("We have little difficulty in concluding that Dr. Jannetta's testimony at deposition was different than, or inconsistent with, the testimony at trial." Levy v Jannetta, CCP Allegheny County, GD 81-7689; appeal -J. A370017/92 Levy v Jannetta et al, No. 00150 Pittsburgh, 1992. settled, 1995") Nevertheless my lawyer, Michael Fishbein, of Levin, Fishbein, Sedran and Berman of Phila. forced me to settle for such a small amount that you the taxpayer are paying for my lifetime medical expenses (via medicare) resulting from the malpractice.
(The doctor was named secretary of health nominee by Governor Ridge 3 weeks after the forced settlement, Peter J. Jannetta 1995 - 1996.)

The "crisis" does not exist. If medical societies and the state sanctioned these recidivist doctors there would be no 'crisis'.

(Also there is a limit legally on how much the lawyer, by contract, can charge via contingency arrangement,)

Carol Jay Levy

author A PAINED LIFE, a chronic pain journey
member, cofounder with Linda Misek-Falkoff, PWPI, Persons With Pain International
member U.N. NGO group, Persons With Disabilities
10:30 PM on 02/11/2010
15% of physicians commit the vast majority of malpractice. Yet, nearly 100% of physicians are sued at some point (multiple points) in their career.

85% of malpractices suits by patients are lost. Yet untill these suits are withdrawn or thrown out of courts, (after 14 years in your case) the legal system and the defense attorneys make money. Then the defense attorney pay-backs the plaintiff's attorney; without whose intital law suit) the defense attorney would not make a big living. During this whole process, there is an attempt to scare one of more of the defense doctors to settle.

The 'pay-back' to the plaintiff / patients attorney is in the form of a settlement. Now both attornies make money. The patient hardly gets any after all the costs are paid. And the system (patients) pays to keep the legal system flourishing.
05:16 PM on 02/17/2010
Great post Carol .. sad as it is ...
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Joanne Doroshow
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08:12 PM on 02/11/2010
Wow, what a snarky, callous response. I hope this never happens to you or your family. And not that I have a thing against trial attorneys, who are the only ones willing to come to your aid to fight insurance companies should you ever get hurt. But actually, we are a consumer rights organization out of the Ralph Nader groups, that fights for corporate accountability and people's access to the courts - even yours. We are not affiliated with any business or lawyer group. Check out our web site to learn more: http://centerjd.org. These survivors have much more to say than we could include in just one letter.
10:43 PM on 02/11/2010
Tort reform does not deny the patient the right to sue and to claim damages.

Many states have good legal systems. Kansas allows both parties (plaintiff and defendant) through their attorneys, to appoint an expert. The two experts mutually select a third expert. The three prefessionals review the patient's management to see if there was any malpractice and make a written report to the judge. Right here, 85% of law suits can be elimintated with minimal cost (no depositions, expert testimony, appeals) and no agonizing delay to either party. The attorney's in this set up are not looking to win a lottery.