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Joel Osteen: What He Fails to Realize When He Calls Gay People Sinners

Posted: 01/20/2012 2:53 pm

When Pastor Joel Olsteen tells Oprah and his congregation that "homosexuality is a sin," I don't think he is considering the impact those words have on the millions of gays and lesbians -- especially the children and teenagers. The message isn't saying, "You have committed a sin"; rather, it says, "You are a sin." The gay or lesbian child and teenager listening to Olsteen believes that he or she is a sin.

When most children are told their bad behaviors are a sin, they can pray to God at bedtime to be forgiven and hope to be heard. Lesbian and gay children cannot pray because they are told that God sees who they are as a sin, so they don't even have a God to talk to. This is brutally isolating for children and adolescents.

What Joel Olsteen doesn't realize is that homosexuality is more than just a behavior; it is an identity -- just like heterosexuality. Whereas acts can be sinful, saying homosexuality is a sin speaks to a person's entire identity, not just what they do sexually. If I never had sex with another man, I'd still be gay, just as a heterosexual person who chose to be celibate would still be heterosexual.

While growing up, we are like gay and lesbian spies. We are hypervigilant, listening for every word and watching every move that is anti-gay. Because no one considers children to be gay, people say many homo-negative and hostile things about gays in their presence. In family therapy sessions, lesbian and gay clients have turned to their parents, telling them they were afraid to come out because they remembered hearing negativity about homosexuality from their parents. These parents are often horrified by how much it hurt their gay sons and daughters and shaped their fears about coming out.

I'm commonly asked, "How can you tell if a child or teenager is gay or lesbian?" I don't have an answer for that, and I haven't found much scientific literature that claims to, either. There are anecdotal writings from mothers and fathers who, looking back, recall signs that their children might be gay. One thing I do stress is that, as I mentioned earlier, every lesbian or gay adult was once a gay or lesbian child.

When people think about children, rarely do they think of them as being gay. But we have no problem thinking of children as heterosexual. As the popularity of Hummel figurines attests, we do think of children as romantic -- holding hands, even kissing. We don't sexualize grade-school crushes but justify them as healthy "practice" for future teenage dating and adult marriage. We often ask little girls if they have crushes on their male teachers, or a little boy if he has a girlfriend yet. As early as kindergarten, teachers have students send each other Valentine's Day cards -- albeit in a round-robin fashion. Later on, we tolerate little girls having crushes on other girls without labeling them lesbians. No one flinches if first- and second-grade boys hold hands.

The underlying assumption in all of these cases is that the child will grow up to be straight, and encouraging or allowing these childhood behaviors is considered acceptable because everyone recognizes that heterosexuality involves more than just adult sexual behavior -- it also involves romance. Gayness, on the other hand, is typically seen as purely sexual behavior rather than as a multifaceted identity that involves affection, romance, and sex, just like heterosexuality. So if a child or adolescent does express romantic feelings toward someone of the same gender or actually embraces a gay identity, the immediate reaction is to sexualize him or her.

Growing up with messages that you are a sin is very traumatic. Children take very seriously what adults say to them -- especially their parents, doctors, teachers, and ministers. Trying to belong by pretending to be straight and suppressing one's core identity and sexuality can be one of the hardest things to do. Most gays and lesbians don't do it very well and therefore are bullied and isolated and have no one to talk to. Even though gay-affirmative images can be found in the media more than ever before, children and teens are still living with a secret and don't know whom they can turn to and who will turn away from them.

Developing gay or lesbian adolescents can handle their sexual orientation. What they can't cope with is the negativity that comes their way regarding who they are, in the form of statements they encounter in the media or in their schools, homes, or communities. A heterosexual adolescent can no more handle acts of homophobia against him or her, either. We are seeing this first-hand with the suicides of bullied teenagers -- both gay teens and those simply perceived as gay.

When listening to Joel Osteen repeat several times to Oprah that homosexuality is a sin, I feel a chill thinking about those gay and lesbian children and teens going to bed at night having no God to pray to, no one to turn to, and having to live with a secret.

I think Joel Olsteen should keep his judgments and opinions to himself about homosexuality. Putting out more negative energy in the world isn't the purpose of a spiritual leader. His goal is to lead people to acceptance and understanding that we are all connected and all one. Anything less is just divisive and not helpful.

 
 
 

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11:54 PM on 02/11/2012
We Christians are trying to find substance. But the empty tomb keeps getting in the way!
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iLdoRight
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12:47 AM on 02/06/2012
Some person might try to tell you that those people who will only own a Chevrolet and absolutely never a Ford or any other make of car were made that way by God. "They were created to be Chevy owners and they would just go plum crazy if anyone ever tried to convince them they could actually be satisfied with a Ford or a Chrysler." Can that be true?
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iLdoRight
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01:34 AM on 02/05/2012
Christianity has its rules, if others want to start their own religion with their rules, that can be their choice, but they have no right to say Christians can't have and promote their beliefs.
02:26 PM on 01/28/2012
I'm a Christian and a sinner. If you read the bible, and listen to God's word, you know we are all sinners, regardless of our sexuality. The key difference is whether or not we recognize that God forgives us of those sins. He is giving us the gift of mercy and everlasting life, and we can choose to accept Him or deny Him. I pray that you accept Him.
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12:00 PM on 01/26/2012
You are being too charitable towards this false shepherd. OF COURSE he knows what he's saying. He is saying it to rake in the money from the frightened and the superstitious without care for the feelings of those he is castigating. Christians, generally, care only about their dogma, not about real people.
10:22 PM on 01/30/2012
Excellent comments. F&F
06:34 PM on 01/25/2012
The author says that Olsteen is not saying "you have committed as sin", but rather "you are a sin". If the Bible calls this type of activity sin and sin is called 'repentable' of, then what is the Bible calling it?Your thoughts....
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Darr Sandberg
"What is essential is invisible to the eye" Sain
11:06 PM on 01/28/2012
"If the Bible calls this type of activity sin and sin is called 'repentabl­e' of, then what is the Bible calling it?"

Irrelevant. The Bible does not call "this type of activity" sin. However, the Bible does teach, in Matthew 7:15-23, that false teaching is recognizable by its destructive consequences. And all of the consequences of 'homosexuality is sin' are destructive. Nothing good comes of it.

So, the 'type of activity' the Bible does condemn is persecuting and slandering and reviling and discriminating against people.
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chw777
06:24 PM on 01/24/2012
You dont think Joel should declare what the Bible says, that homosexuality is a sin. So should he say homosexuality is not a sin? Thus declaring the Bible is a lie?
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GDWhiteman
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06:02 PM on 01/25/2012
Joel should know better. He should make it clear that what most English translations of the Bible call homosexuality has nothing to do with modern same-sex loving relationships. I'd say it's more a case that Joel and other pastors who don't get that are either liars or ignorant.
04:30 PM on 01/27/2012
How do modern same-sex relationships differ from same-sex relationships back in the days of the Bible?
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Darr Sandberg
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07:31 PM on 01/25/2012
"what the Bible says, that homosexual­ity is a sin."

The Bible does not say that.
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07:47 PM on 01/28/2012
Denial is not a river in egypt !
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Sam Damon
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05:55 PM on 01/23/2012
The author uses the term homo-negative as opposed to homophobic, which I think is a much more accurate term to describe anti-gay behavior and statements. Phobias are irrational fears that often cause panic, like when some people are close to a snake. But people who oppose gays aren't afraid of gays, they just don't approve of gays. Well done to author for bringing a much more accurate term to the discussion.
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12:21 PM on 01/23/2012
Kort, you're no better than Pastor Olsteen. ENOUGH ALREADY with this BS that there's real, practical difference between being told that YOU are a sin, or that it's just your orientation that is.

You think the second 'option' is kinder because it at least lets people pray to god? Pray for what" A cure? The chance to negotiate - "I'll be a saint in everything else god, if you'll just overlook this behavioral sin."? Oh, wait, I see. It's so that they can "pray to be forgiven and hope to be heard." What's the matter with you?

There is NO non-damaging way to condemn someone's orientation. Orientation is not a 'bad behavior'. Telling them they're ok but their orientation isn't, is a cop-out. Stop providing gay bashing hatemongers with a phony path to humaneness. Stop implying that if they just condemn the behavior, not the person, they'll at least be a little less obnoxious. They'll deserve a little less condemnation. Baloney.

Telling a homosexual that either they, or their orientation is a sin, leaves them nowhere to go.The deliverer of either one of those messages deserves no benefit of the doubt. They get no bonus points for dulling the sword.

Stand on a mountaintop and shout "But I'm gay too!" all you want. Until you stop offering this phony distinction, then your real place is standing next to the Rev. Olsteen. Gays like you are no champion of mine.
02:25 PM on 01/23/2012
"reprobate mind"
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GDWhiteman
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08:00 AM on 01/24/2012
As you keep repeating that phrase, light begins to dawn on whose mind you're talking about.
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GDWhiteman
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09:46 AM on 01/24/2012
Romans 1:27-28: well, 27 clearly doesn't point to me. I'm a man who has regular sexual relations with my female wife. As for 28, that definitely doesn't point to me. 28 sounds more like the religious who carefully selected texts that agreed with their own opinions and then claimed that they were directly from God. In other words, evangelicals make God in their own image. That's obvious because, according to them at least, God dislikes everyone they dislike and disapproves of everything they disapprove of.

I have not one iota of fear of God or death. I suggest you may have been reading a little something based on your own opinions into the faces of the dead. But that's just consistent with the religious approach - always reading something that isn't there into God and putting words in His mouth.
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dbrockskk
12:02 PM on 01/23/2012
So he doesnt want their money?
Oneandoneandone
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11:41 AM on 01/23/2012
I don't know how people like Joel rationalize the following: virginity. You can be a hetero virgin, not sexually active. But you can't be a homosexual virgin? Not sexually active. That does not compute. What do they tell themselves? How do they explain it?

We all start out as virgins, we don't "activate" our heterosexual, bisexuality, or homosexuality when we start having sex. It is with us long before we take someone to bed for the first time.
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12:00 PM on 01/23/2012
Interesting.
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drjoekort
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12:02 PM on 01/23/2012
@Oneandoneandone: That is a great response!
iridium53
Semper Fi
11:24 AM on 01/23/2012
Osteen says whatever will drive the most revenue.

He tells the audience what they want to hear.

He's just the pseudo-christian version of Limbaugh.
And serves the same weak-minded audience.
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chw777
06:28 PM on 01/24/2012
What a ludicrous thing to say. Only a depraved mind makes statements like this about innocent people. Osteen is money driven. LOL.
09:36 AM on 01/23/2012
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02:27 PM on 01/23/2012
Romans 1:28
Oneandoneandone
Professional Spitfire
03:36 PM on 01/23/2012
I don't know why you insist on citing bible passages. Not everyone believes in the bible. If you believe in it, that's great, go read it. Mind your own soul.
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06:10 PM on 01/25/2012
Captain Marvel #247
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09:20 AM on 01/23/2012
I could care less what that Charleton Joel Osteen thinks......feel sorry for his lemmings...who supply lil' Joe with A+++ Mansion,Jewerly, Limos.....and a Life of Luxury under the guise of Jesus LOL - SUCKERS!