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Will Republican Union-bashing Draw Backlash in Indiana?

Posted: 01/14/12 06:26 PM ET

National Football League players, even when their union is locked out by their bosses, rarely connect on an economic level with laborers in the general population. Some athletes' salaries are closer to those of the 1 percent who hold most American economic power than to those of the 99 percent who don't.

Last week, a half dozen NFL guys from Indiana made a halfhearted gesture of solidarity when they opposed the onerous Republican-sponsored so-called right-to-work bill that will reduce the power of unions in the Hoosier State.

But it was not as if Jay Cutler, Rex Grossman, Courtney Roby, Trai Essex, Mark Clayton or Kris Dielman promised even an informational picket line when all the Rush Limbaugh-type swells descend from their private jets to feast at the corporate Woodstock of the Super Bowl in Indianapolis on Sunday, Feb. 5.

By then, the battle could be over and the unions may have lost. Governor Mitch Daniels, one of several anti-worker Republican governors in the industrial Great Lakes region, appears to have the votes and the momentum to successfully conclude a right-wing attack on unions in a presidential election year.

Late Wednesday, the Indiana House announced a few round of hearings on the bill to take place next Tuesday, with a vote possible later in the week.

However -- perhaps! -- winning could be counterproductive, igniting a backlash like the recall campaign against Gov. Scott Walker in Wisconsin or the referendum rejection of Gov. John Kasich's legislation in Ohio. It might be that the tea party types have again overplayed their hand.

In the meantime, Indiana unions and their Democratic supporters find themselves contemplating third down and long yardage to go with time ticking off the legislative clock.

"We know we can't stay out indefinitely," minority leader Pat Bauer told National Public Radio, regarding the brief Democratic boycott this week. "But we did need to slow the process down, which we've succeeded in doing."

Democrats have walked out on legislative sessions. Union protestors booed Gov. Daniels Tuesday night when he gave his State of the State address. But the Republicans hold a 60-40 voting edge in the state House and appear ready to approve legislation taking away unions' right to assess dues from workers protected by unions in private businesses.

The Indianapolis Star reported that many Democratic chairs were empty when Daniels spoke and quoted a Teamster who said he once voted for Daniels.

"Mitch is a liar!" the man shouted, along with other protestors. "No right-to-work!"

The paper also reported that the Democratic Party of Indiana called Daniels' speech "fifteen minutes of historic back-patting, a few minutes of storytelling and a load of propaganda about policies that will harm working Hoosiers."

Despite Daniels' insistence that surveys show a majority of his state's citizens want the new law, the Star reported that the only nonpartisan poll -- taken by Ball State University -- showed 27 percent support it, 24 percent oppose it and 48 percent are undecided or lacking enough information to decide.

As Daniels left the building, protestors shouted, "Shame on you!"

Some of the scenes and sounds in the hallways Tuesday resembled those of last winter in Wisconsin when Democrats and unionists opposed Gov. Walker's effort to limit collective bargaining rights of public sector unions.

Although Walker won that battle, he could lose the larger war because his many foes hope to recall him, just as they have recalled two Republican state senators there.

When Gov. Kasich of Ohio tried a similar bill last year, his effort was overwhelmingly voted down in a referendum in November.

There are 22 other states with right-to-work laws, most of them in the South and the West. The last state to vote in favor was Oklahoma in 2001. A victory for reactionary Republicans in Indiana would represent a significant incursion of their ideology into the Northeast.

The region could be pivotal this fall as President Barack Obama runs for re-election, perhaps against Mitt Romney, a venture capitalist whose father was an auto executive and governor of Michigan. Many automobile-related jobs remain in the Great Lakes region.

When the economy crashed at the end of the George Bush presidency, Romney said auto companies should go bankrupt. Instead, Obama saved them and the jobs that come with them. Romney last week said he enjoys firing people.

In 2008, running against Sen. John McCain of Arizona, Obama carried the 79 electoral votes of Wisconsin (10), Illinois (21), Indiana (11), Ohio (20) and Michigan (17).

Republican supporters tout the Indiana bill as good for job creation. But a Bloomberg report showed that the average worker in a right-to-work state is paid $30,167 per year, about $5,333 less than workers in states without the rule, according to the U.S. Labor Department.

The New York Times reported opposition to Daniels from Jim Robinson, a United Steelworkers official in Indiana, who said: "It's a political attack on what the Republicans see as one of their main opponents -- organized labor. They want to weaken unions to help assure continued Republican majorities."

But in the interest of fairness and balance, it should be acknowledged that the right-wing Wall Street Journal -- Rupert Murdoch's top American paper -- managed to see the business-owner side of the issue in an editorial.

The WSJ called the Indiana fight "the labor reform story of the year" and lashed out at what it called "Big Labor" for portraying it as a radical change.

"If Indiana joins the club, it would send a message that even voters in industrial states realize their overall business climate must take precedence over union power," the WSJ wrote. "If President Obama really wants to revive U.S. manufacturing and exports, he'd make all of America right-to-work. But Indiana would be a splendid new precedent."

They're right about part of that last part. It would be a "new precedent;" but it would not be "splendid" for everyone.

This post originally appeared on Current.com.

 

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National Football League players, even when their union is locked out by their bosses, rarely connect on an economic level with laborers in the general population. Some athletes' salaries are closer t...
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rogergoldkin
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance
04:14 PM on 01/15/2012
The first map is one that shows the poverty rates in the US. The second map shows all RTW states. Funny how high poverty rates are associated with RTW, not jobs or prosperity.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/the-poorest-states-of-america/

http://biggovernment.com/laborunionreport/2010/10/04/breaking-democrat-introduces-legislation-to-end-right-to-work-states/
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mirrorwrlds
A world with infinite possibilities.
03:57 PM on 01/15/2012
I know this will never be acknowledged but states with high percentage of union workers also enjoy higher standard of livings from those states that do not have the same percentage of unions. The reason is simple with unions getting better wages and benefits non union similar jobs the employer needs to offer comparable wages to attract and keep the employees.
02:17 PM on 01/15/2012
Why not let the issue be decided by a referendum at the ballot?
rogergoldkin
If you think education is expensive, try ignorance
03:32 PM on 01/15/2012
An excellent idea! The Repubs won't do that because it would fail miserably.
04:04 PM on 01/15/2012
What possible argument could they present as a reason to vote no on such an amendment to the bill?
07:34 PM on 01/15/2012
Fanned from a fellow UBC brother
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mhh310351
Roosevelt Democrat
02:01 PM on 01/15/2012
As a Roosevelt Democrat I'm strongly in favor of workers right to form unions. However I'm not a fan of allowing government workers to form unions.

I believe unionized government workers have access to our leaders at such an intimate level that allowing them to also give them money for election campaigns creates a conflict of interest situation.

Just my opinion.
leftword
To deny reality is to embrace ignorance
03:58 PM on 01/15/2012
If you're truly a Roosevelt Democrat then you must know of the incredible struggle --- complete with battle deaths --- it took to establish unions. The growth of unions was almost synonymous with the growth of the Middle Class and the vast expansion of the American economy in 1950s and 60s. And you must know that since then the corporations have mounted a major attack on unions, driving private-sector membership down to less than 7% (so much for "Big Labor"). In that area they've already won. They're now going after public-sector unions because they still represent 36% of those workers. Once those have been eliminated the corporations and state & local governments will be able to dictate terms to works, including not just pay and benefits but working condition that affect worker safety and health --- and we know from history how little they care about the welfare of mere employees.
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mhh310351
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windy33
08:20 AM on 01/16/2012
then you didn't do much fact checking. state workers here in wisconsin are not paid high wages scott walker wants people to believe. the state workers that plow our snow get 11.00 dollars an hour. my son in law a university police officer makes 40 thou a year. thier last contract took no wage increase to off set what they pay in health care , thier pension. also had to take 16 furlough days. days with no pay. walker says no wage increase for 2 years. my son in law will go 6 years with no wage increase. the only ones with a bigger wage is those that have college degree to go with it. now heads of our schools are getting hugh bonuses, while teachers will get paid less most only make 40 to 45 thou a year. my son in law can't even negotiate for bullit proof vests nothing. so many people were duped into thinking that the state workers were paid a very high wage so they turned on the state workers but never did any fact checking. they believe all what walker says they think it's the truth. nothing could be further from the truth. when they get rid of all unions they will also get rid of the laws on the books to protect the peoples benefits they now have. they will then beable to take away things like the 40 hour worrk week, paid vacations, holidays, wages. that is something to think about
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mhh310351
Roosevelt Democrat
11:58 AM on 01/16/2012
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/02/18/the-first-blow-against-public-employees/fdr-warned-us-about-public-sector-unions

interesting article - the point is labor unions are there to get an equitable share of the profits for products they make or transport. The unions are negotiating with the owners of the company or corporation.

When Government Labor Unions are negotiating they are taking money from the tax payers - different situation all together in the thinking of George Meany -- the former president of the A.F.L.-C.I.O -- in 1955 or President Roosevelt.
01:24 PM on 01/15/2012
i'm a rush limbaugh type......and i dont have a private jet...... whatever happened to our freedom to choose if we want to be in a union or not?....i should have the right to decide my own fate.... unions are not the answer to everything and they are constantly being rammed down my throat, and its not union bashing just because we disagree..... why is it not called non-union bashing when i'm attacked for not wanting to be in a union?
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
03:30 PM on 01/15/2012
those first five words aren't exactly an invitation to be taken seriously. the fairest way to get rid of a union is to convince the union members themselves to decertify. "right to work" means non-members receive services that only members pay for.

i understand that union political contributions complicate the matter - the fairest way to address this would be to ban both unions and corporations from political activity. neither a union nor a corporation should have the rights of a flesh and blood person.
04:00 PM on 01/15/2012
i agree that contributions should just be made by individuals... no corporations and no unions.. and i think u shd only be allowed to contribute to candidates in ur own district... its not right that people in california can contribute to someone running in say new york state...or georgia.....u shd only be able to accept contributions from individuals who can actually vote for you.....in my opinion
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KevinMac59
Independently Dependent
04:02 PM on 01/15/2012
Then you should not be able to profit from the efforts of union collective bargaining. Negotiate your own salary and working conditions and see what your employer is willing to give you.
04:37 PM on 01/15/2012
i already do that..i dont need a union to take care of me, i can do it by myself... i'm doing just fine w/o collective bargaining.... i like my employer....
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ronp121
09:17 AM on 01/15/2012
Wonder if there is any union workers left out there. Once we get rid of them we can get wages adjusted to where everybody can make minimum wage with no benefits. Sounds good to me I myself just don't need the money as many of you seem not too. Benefits that go along with the union employees can then be gone. Really people do you need that almighty health insurance union employees are benefited with? I think not. How about vacation time. really now better to serve your corporation than spending that down time with your family. Down with the unions, predatory corporate greed is really the way to go. Think?
09:58 AM on 01/15/2012
"Wonder if there is any union workers left out there."

There are enough to drop $200+ million into politics.

The unions of today are more about political motives than anything. Their goal now is to put their money towards elections.
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nofriendofrepublicans
Mother friendly.
01:36 PM on 01/15/2012
That's a drop in the bucket compared to money being dumped in to politics by huge corporations that suck on the taxpayer supplied government teat.
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windy33
08:28 AM on 01/16/2012
WOW another person out there that doesn't do any fact checking. look up unions and see why they werew started and where it started and what happen to the people that were protesting just for a 40 hour work week. THAT IS THE STATE OF WISCONSIN WHEN WAY BACK WHEN THE GOVERNOR OF THIS STATE ORDERED OUR COPS TO SHOOT PEOPLE DEAD AND THEY DID JUST THAT. once unions are gone they will go after and do away with the laws on the books now that protect people. they will to benefit their top dollar take away the 40 hour work week. paid vacations, holidays, and what ever other benefits you now have. this is their goal to increase their top dollar, they will take us back to slave labor. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY MOVE OUT JOBS OVER SEAS? BECAUSE THEY CAN PAY SLAVE LABOR AND SELL THEIR PRODUCTS FOR A PRICE THAT MAKES YOU PAY THROUG THE NOSE.
CAN PEOPLE NOT SEE THIS COMING. BE VERY CAREFULL FOR WHAT YOU WISH FOR
01:30 PM on 01/15/2012
i'm not in a union....i have good health insurance...i get sick days and 4 weeks vacation every year... i dont need a union to survive.............. and since when is turning a profit a bad thing?...the better my company does the better they treat me... the more they make the better chance of me getting raises.. and thank goodness investors invested in my company to get it started and give me a good job.......... but i guess they shdnt be rewarded with any profits of their own, that would be greedy
leftword
To deny reality is to embrace ignorance
04:03 PM on 01/15/2012
You enjoy those benefits only because of unions. Employers routinely pay non-union workers more than they'd like and offer better benefits because they fear that to fail to do so would only invite employees to organize.

If you believe that businesses, especially the big ones, care about you, then you're in fantasy land. Read some history about labor relations (such as they were) and working conditions before unions --- and afterwards.
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ronp121
08:37 AM on 01/16/2012
Not saying they shouldn't make money that is what they are there for. Although I worked for a company that when something happen you went to a company kangaroo court and you better have union representation or you were on the street. In my forty three year carrier I did that three times. Sure was mighty happy to have a union to represent me or I wouldn't of had a forty three year run.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
09:02 AM on 01/15/2012
The economics of "right to work for nothing" states isn't compelling. Southern states are based on wage slavery. So if that's a model Indiana thinks will work for them... well, it's never worked for the states it's been used in.
08:21 AM on 01/15/2012
When you take a job in a non right to work state money is taken out of your check for unions. This is done without any choice of the employee. Right to work gives the person the freedom choice. Some union do a good job for thier employees, some unions spend most of thier time protecting non productive employees. GM plant in norwood ohio could not start up thier line on friday because they had so many call in. The plant is now closed. If you work for GE and do more work then the union thinks you should they come tell you to slow down. There are good unions that tell thier members work and we will get you good pay and benifit. But when all is said and done the choice to join the union should be that of the employee. Some feel union promote one party and do agree with that choice. Some feel union do more for non productive employees then they do for good employees. So freedom of choice should be the law of the land.
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mater
mater
09:13 AM on 01/15/2012
The health care benefits and pensions need some work. Companies are not manufacturing like they did in the 1070s. Why can't there be some sort of compromise between unions and labor like the means testing proposed for wealthy folks also collecting Social security checks? Grandfather in those for all that up to age 55 and the rest have their jobs and time to work on a Plan B and/or early retirement like school teachers can do. Without some sort of compromise, even violence , no one is going to win as much as they think they deserve.
06:24 AM on 01/15/2012
Unions suck in every conceivable way. A scummy system of labor monopolization that uses intimidation and illegitimate political force to violate property rights. If business owners organized themselves in the way union workers do to form a cartel and fix wages, they'd be dragged into the courts and charged with crimes. But for some reason when unions do the same thing they get away with it by waving a flag and claiming to be the good guys.
06:59 AM on 01/15/2012
Might I add that the UAW contributed $40,000,000 to the Obama election campaign.
07:23 AM on 01/15/2012
An investment that got them bailed out.

Pay to play.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
09:06 AM on 01/15/2012
Nothing destroys jobs better than "right to work" legislation. Look at all those non-union states. They're a step away from the third world.

Unions are collective bargaining organizations, a democratization of the labor force. "Power To The People". That's why conservatives hate unions- conservatives seek to disenfranchise people, not empower them.
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jsgaetano
Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus
09:04 AM on 01/15/2012
Anyone whining about unions hates America and our freedoms, and probably views themselves as someone who would be important, if only they could force people the act like they are.
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Janet Anderson
independent andy
04:51 AM on 01/15/2012
we all believe in the "right to work", however, where are the JOBS that we have the right to work at????
BOEHNER.............WHERE ARE THE JOBS????????????????????????????????
03:15 AM on 01/15/2012
There is no reason to "take action against unions" since unions kill themselves.
thekid360
Black, Union and Proud, Booyah
12:25 AM on 01/15/2012
Lets not get it twisted , right to work offers no economic advantage to any company. Right to work simply means a worker can receive union benefits ie. Health care, pensions , and union rights, job protection , seniority, fair promotion opportunity and not pay for them.

The only reason for this law is to discourage union's from organizing in that state because of free loaders protection. .It is disadvantage for a union. Because unions could invest in organizing and not get a dime in return .

This law is embraced by the party that frowns on welfare and unemployment benefits, always talking about you work hard and play by the rules, yet encourages people to get something for free.

When you get cable, telephone service, groceries or anything you pay for it . How is it right that people can work on a job that pays good wages and benefits, and everyone else pays except you.

The law says a union has to fight for your job, whether you pay or not , how is that fair. Have you ever rented/purchased a property and your neighbor got to stay there free, or taken a flight and the person next to you got to fly free, of course not everyone pays. You don't get to choose whether you want to pay taxes

Only in a right to work state , you really can get something for nothing, brought to you by the party of person responsibility
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MUDPUPPY
12:13 AM on 01/15/2012
Apparently there will soon be no need for unions because Obama is creating government agencies to do all the union's jobs protecting laborers.
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cjohns58
Vet, Ind, Christian
06:46 AM on 01/16/2012
And those new agencies are?
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The Corporate Champion
Conservative, because someone's got to do the work
11:52 PM on 01/14/2012
The next right step to economic recovery is to see all states enact Right to Work legislation.
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Janet Anderson
independent andy
04:45 AM on 01/15/2012
if you don't pay dues you don't get !!!!! right to work? fine...but you don't have a "right" to the benefits either.
11:06 AM on 01/15/2012
That way we can start down the road to the truly American economy by paying workers next to nothing. That way the companies can truly exploit the workforce to make even more money and have the economy work for just a few. Just like China.
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MUDPUPPY
11:49 PM on 01/14/2012
Obama is having the government take over all the union's jobs so soon there will be no need for unions.