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Choi: So When Do the Military Discharges End?

Posted: 05/26/10 04:44 PM ET

That's the million dollar question that does not have a clear answer in an Amendment to the Defense Authorization bill, that some doubt will lead to a full repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.

Lt. Dan Choi said in a statement, "My question still remains, and I've yet to find anyone who signed off on yesterday's compromise able to give me a direct answer to, "When exactly will the discharges stop?," said Lt. Dan Choi, an openly gay Iraq war veteran and Lieutenant in the United States Army. "Until the President signs the papers that fully and immediately end the firing of patriotic, gay and lesbian service members, then there is no cause for celebration and no reason to trumpet mission accomplished for a job not yet done.

"My concern here is for my fellow soldiers serving in uniform and how this law will affect them. We've heard a lot of talk about how this compromise can work politically, but on the day this passes Congress, no one has been able to explain how this will have any impact at all on those of us serving in uniform. Unfortunately, we have been handed an imperfect, eleventh hour compromise with no viable alternative," continued Choi.

GetEqual co-founder Robin McGehee echoed Choi's discontent with a so-called compromise for a repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell tepidly approved by the Obama Administration on Monday. She said, "After a year and a half of mostly inaction, the White House has offered our community a compromise that is movement forward on repeal, but unfortunately not nearly enough for those service members - some who stood handcuffed with us and faced arrest beside us at the White House - living under the shadow of this out-dated, immoral law," said Robin McGehee, "Together, our collective voice has moved the White House from a place of absence to involvement. However, we didn't invest ourselves to this cause, nor spend nights under arrest in a jail cell for a compromise. President Obama, we won't stop until you stop the immoral firing of our brothers and sisters in the military so that their integrity is restored, their jobs are secured and their families are recognized."

The watered down amendment does not offer a full repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell within a guaranteed time frame, nor does it include a non-discrimination policy that gay and lesbian soldiers could use during less "friendly" administrations.

Many in the community share the concerns of Get Equal, Choi, and others. The President clearly promised he would be a "fierce advocate" for the Lesbian and Gay communities, but as his Presidency continues, I can't help but wonder if he is a "reluctant advocate."

 

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That's the million dollar question that does not have a clear answer in an Amendment to the Defense Authorization bill, that some doubt will lead to a full repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Lt. Dan Ch...
That's the million dollar question that does not have a clear answer in an Amendment to the Defense Authorization bill, that some doubt will lead to a full repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell. Lt. Dan Ch...
 
 
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06:01 PM on 05/29/2010
Seriously?? War? massive Oil Spill? Immigration crisis?, economic crisis? and we want to add this rubbish to the top 5? OMG!! No way!! I want better treatment too; but I'm thinking priority, he's just a man (who happens to not be gay). Reluctance is expected.
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Tell me again why we can't be equal?
10:07 AM on 06/01/2010
Ending discrimination doesn't take any action at all. Just a change of the mind and a few sentences of law. Something like all soldiers will be treated equally regardless of sexual orientation. I consider that about the easiest of the president's problems. Maybe the president doesn't want to fix this problem?
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12:46 AM on 05/27/2010
Choi is absolutely correct in asking, "Why the delay in ending DADT?" I like his approach, which is both passionate, strident and yet respectful of others. He is an officer and a gentleman in every sense of the word. This is my idea of a role model,
06:19 PM on 05/26/2010
I wonder why anyone would want to join a club or group (armed service) that makes it a point of policy to specifically reject them. Would it not simply be easier to just NOT join the military? After all, if I am a female, I do not go and put in a job application for "priest," at the local Catholic church; I would not want to work there!
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11:46 AM on 05/27/2010
Your post is written in the tone of a human being that has no understanding of what it is like to be treated like an animal by your fellow citizens.

And while that's great for you, those of us who are being treated as if we are less than human will never settle for it.

Would you?
05:11 PM on 05/29/2010
What you describe here is the same question blacks had to ask about doing anything up until about forty years ago. Not wanting to work there as you put it meant unemployment. If they had come to your conclusion what would our society be like now? Would there be any black policemen, firemen or other things whites didn't want them to do. Professional sport teams traveling would have to have separate accomodations. Non-white performers wouldn't be allowed to stay at certain hotels and their fans would be disallowed at certain venues.Do you have confidence that the white majority would simply find error in their ways on their own? Some Libertarians think this is exactly what needed to happen in place of the Civil Rights Act and its enactment exemplifies too much government intervention.
04:43 PM on 05/26/2010
One must have a love for this country beyond understanding to volunteer for a military that does everything in its considerable power to drum gay soldiers out of its ranks. How many Arab interpretors were dismised at the height of the Iraq war for being gay, when the military seemingly couldn't get enough interpretors?
I just wish the old, draconian jackasses would hurry up and die off or retire so we can get on with the inevitability of a truly integrated military.
04:12 PM on 05/26/2010
"I can't help but wonder if he is a "reluctant advocate.""

Really? What's it going to take to convince you? How about he invites Pastor Lou Engel, Pastor Martin Ssempa, and Rick Warren for beers? Would that convince you?

The "audacity" of all of this is that the WH will claim they worked to repeal DADT. The reality is that they were cornered by the congress moving forward whether the administration wanted to or not.
04:22 PM on 05/26/2010
Sorry Joe--I'm so angry about all of this I snapped. I realize your statement is rhetorical.

Thanks for the posts.
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09:59 PM on 05/26/2010
No problem :)