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John Farrell

John Farrell

Posted: December 5, 2010 09:48 AM

Intelligent Design: Losing the Catholics


This has not been a good year for the Discovery Institute. I'm sure book sales to their core creationist audience of Biblical literalists are steady. And, as Barbara Forrest has shown, they're hoping the Louisiana State Education Act, which is directly based on their own template for state public education policy, allows Fundamentalists in at least one state to disallow biology science textbooks that teach evolution.

But that's not the same thing as having one of your Institute Fellows get a paper published in Nature. Or Cell. Or Science. It's not the same thing as celebrating a grant from the NSF to pursue some promising research.

The Discovery Institute has from its beginning claimed it would in short order get actual scientists to consider intelligent design as a viable scientific theory, by publishing peer-reviewed articles in the leading science journals.

But they've failed. And no matter how much cheering the Institute Fellows get from friendly audiences at Bible schools and church socials, the reality is: this was not the way things were supposed to turn out.

And now, they're losing the Catholics.

This past year, prominent Catholic conservative intellectuals at once ID-friendly magazines and web sites, started to break their silence about the vapidity of intelligent design.

First, Edward Feser, professor of philosophy at Pasadena College, began posting a series of essays showing up the hollow philosophical shell at the heart of intelligent design. Feser's main point is that, at least for Catholics, ID is hopelessly devoid of solid metaphysical grounding:

The problems are twofold. First, both Paleyan "design arguments" and ID theory take for granted an essentially mechanistic conception of the natural world. What this means is that they deny the existence of the sort of immanent teleology or final causality affirmed by the Aristotelian-Thomistic-Scholastic tradition, and instead regard all teleology as imposed, "artificially" as it were, from outside.

Feser's posts are detailed, well-researched, and an excellent resource for any Christian parent confused by the contradictory claims of ID proponents.

Next, University of Delaware physicist Stephen M. Barr decided it was time to be frank: intelligent design, he wrote in First Things, has been a disaster:

What has the intelligent design movement achieved? As science, nothing. The goal of science is to increase our understanding of the natural world, and there is not a single phenomenon that we understand better today or are likely to understand better in the future through the efforts of ID theorists. If we are to look for ID achievements, then, it must be in the realm of natural theology. And there, I think, the movement must be judged not only a failure, but a debacle.

There have, of course, been weak attempts by Discovery Institute flaks to claim Aquinas as an ally in support of their argument for design; indeed some claim that Aquinas' Fifth Argument is the classic argument for design. But this does not stand up to scrutiny, as philosopher-blogger Brandon Watson has pointed out:

The problem is that the Fifth Way is not actually a design argument. The phrase translated by 'designedly' here is actually ex intentione; but ex intentione does not signify design but orientation. The Fifth Way is actually an argument not from design but from the fact that there's any causation at all. On Aquinas's scholastic adaptation of Aristotle, the end or final cause is what selects the effect for the efficient cause -- in other words, it is what answers the question, "Why does this cause produce this effect rather than some other effect?" The disposition of the cause to the end is its intentio. The word is associated in the medieval imagination with archery: the aim of the arrow is its intentio. So the argument of the Fifth Way is roughly that because nonintelligent things act regularly in order to achieve an end, they must achieve their end not a casu, by chance, but ex intentione, by being disposed to it. But things not capable of determining their own ends have to be, in the end, disposed to them by things capable of determining ends, namely, intelligences. So what is supposed to be at stake in this argument is not design but any sort of causation that is not due to deliberate self-determination; what's being examined is the very possibility of bodies having effects at all. This is perfectly general; final causes are for Aquinas the explanation for the fact that efficient causation occurs at all.

The 13th century Dominican theologian would have been as puzzled by intelligent design proponents as today's Dominican biologists are.

Father Nicanor Austriaco, a biologist and Dominican who has his own lab at Providence College, published a paper in 2003 called In Defense of Double Agency in Evolution: A Response to Five Modern Critics (not available online, alas) in the Rome-based Catholic journal, Angelicum, showing just how comprehensively evolution can be accommodated in a true Catholic philosophical and theological tradition.

For Austriaco, the tradition is clear. "When double agency is cast within the classical framework of Western theism especially as it was articulated by St. Thomas Aquinas," he wrote, "it remains a coherent and fruitful theological explanation for divine action in an evolving world." No watchmaker in the sky is required in the simplistic sense that ID proponents insist is the only explanation standing ... between Christian children and certain atheism.

"When we talk about evolution," Austriaco told me in a recent interview, "most people think that to affirm that evolution is a contingent process, is to necessarily exclude divine providence." But this is simply not the case, he argues. "The irony about the intelligent design debate today, is that the intelligent design proponents, like the Darwinists, presuppose an opposition between chance and design. They necessitate an opposition between chance and design. If it's design, it cannot be chance. If it's chance, it cannot be design. There is no option -- and there are philosophical reasons why the moderns can't come up with this -- there is no option, no one thinks about the possibility of talking about God's design working through chance, through contingency."

Needless to say, Catholics like Fr. Austriaco, Professors Feser and Barr, are not the kind of Christians whose views are welcome at the Discovery Institute. [It goes without saying that Brown biology professor Kenneth Miller might as well be Public Enemy No. 1.]

So, all is not well in Seattle. For Christians who support solid science education, that's something to celebrate. The more the vapid arguments of the Discovery Institute are exposed, the smaller and smaller their audience will become.

 
 
 

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This has not been a good year for the Discovery Institute. I'm sure book sales to their core creationist audience of Biblical literalists are steady. And, as Barbara Forrest has shown, they're hoping ...
This has not been a good year for the Discovery Institute. I'm sure book sales to their core creationist audience of Biblical literalists are steady. And, as Barbara Forrest has shown, they're hoping ...
 
 
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10:31 AM on 12/27/2010
we are what we are - not what we believe we are
07:58 PM on 12/20/2010
I find it amusing that Daleri Rileda says that evolution needs magic to work. Aren't you the one that believes in a book filled with magic? Shouldn't believing in "magical" evolution be easy for you?
02:37 PM on 12/20/2010
John
I'm surprised Catholics have any truck with Intelligent Design. Evolution is a Protestant problem whose roots are in the Reformation, when various sects that grew out of the Reformation, turned their backs on 1500 years of serious thought and discussion by Church philosophers and theologians. Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Anglicans, Armenian and others with long Christian traditions have always held that belief is based on a mix of the Bible, Tradition and the Magisterium (theologians and philosophers) of the Church. Even Augustine writing in 400AD thought of the Bible as an allegory.

So why are Catholics lending any credence to this debate, this is a Bible based Protestant issue. If they can't find an answer maybe its time to turn to the 1500 years of Council teachings, philosophers and writers they turned their back on.
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pkafin
05:54 PM on 01/02/2011
"A solid scientific explanatio­n for origin of the informatio­n rich software code in the dna molecule will silence all the "idiotic bible thumping creationis­ts" "

No it won't. Those people don't understand or care about actual scientific reasoning. If they did, they never would ask for creationism to be included in a science class to begin with.
11:11 PM on 12/08/2010
So if evolution is a "fact" and not natural philosophy then someone please explain: how do mutations and natural selection explain the origin of the information in the dna molecule and its ability to construct incredibly complex functional proteins required for life? A solid scientific explanation for origin of the information rich software code in the dna molecule will silence all the "idiotic bible thumping creationists" but where is the evidence that mutations and natural selection can produce information?
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Johnagain
WTFWJD?
01:36 AM on 12/09/2010
You have to keep in mind that the state of life on earth today is the product of ~3 billion years of evolution. The information carried in our DNA did not suddenly appear. It arose from billions of years of gradual, and sometimes not so gradual, change. Evidence for this is abundant, but requires a very high level of education to even begin to understand. And you, like all ID proponents, simply do not have that level of education. That is not an insult. It is a fact. I attained my BS in biology in 4 years, my Ph.D. in cell biology in another 6 years, and my postdoctoral training in molecular genetics in another 4 years. And after all that (14 years of intensive study after high school), I do not consider myself an expert in evolutionary biology. That is a different field, requiring a different set of training altogether. That is why it is comical to read comments like yours above. It would be like me making a comment on the validity of a physicist's conclusions about a set of experiments for which I have no direct understanding. You simply have no clue, and are too ignorant to realize it.
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
01:45 PM on 12/09/2010
The theory of evolution addresses changes in genomes over time, not the origin of the genome itself.  Additionally, DNA does not contain "software code".
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rich3324
Likes: Chasing villagers. Dislikes: Fire
11:02 AM on 12/07/2010
A pseudoscience is any body of knowledge purported to be scientific or supported by science but which fails to comply with the scientific method. Pseudoscience is a kind of counterfeit or masquerade of science which makes use of some of the superficial trappings of science but does not involve the substance of science.

This sounds like ID.
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12:02 PM on 12/07/2010
Creationism/ Intelligent Design is bible classes masquerading as science.
Anyone can Google ' intelligent design court findings' and see for themselves.
It has been found to violate the establishment clause again and again, and the teaching and discussion of Evolution does not.
The scientific study of Evolution is valid science.
Creationism/ID is just bible study for public schools.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
07:14 PM on 12/07/2010
Evolution is not even science. The variation of species is from the mixing of the genome which tends to alternate. Mutations are corrected and cannot possibly even account for all of the uniform alternating variation of species that we see. It is the design that is the cause of the uniform variations and not any accidents.

The genome is known to literally respond directly to the environment in one generation completely bypassing accidental mutations. Mutations are much too slow to be of any use at all.
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05:42 AM on 12/28/2010
"Mutations are much too slow to be of any use at all."

Simply untrue. You have no clue of what you're talking about. The evidence is readily available online - but you won't investigate it. Or, you'll claim you have investigated it, and found it lacking. In any case, it's much more comfortable for yo to remain in your fantasy.
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dadoorsron
09:15 PM on 12/28/2010
http://sib.illinois.edu/peec/evolution.htm
Thats the department that teaches evolutionary biology at the university of Illinois. Richard Dawkins is an evolutionary Biologist.
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merrymay
10:20 AM on 12/07/2010
Follow the money and jobs here. Even Louis Pasteur and Einstein would get fired for not toeing the correct line.

It's unemployment city for scientists who admit to being believers, or who question the party gentleman's agreements.
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David Belkevitz
12:26 PM on 12/07/2010
You are wrong. Kenneth Miller is a top biologist in this country and advocates evolution, he is also a christian who believes in god. I only know of this one because I have read his book, 'Finding Darwin's God' I dare say there are many other scientists who agree with evolution and still believe in a god.
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merrymay
02:43 PM on 12/07/2010
I'm glad to hear it! The last I heard a lot of institutions deny tenure or reject findings from people like that.
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Johnagain
WTFWJD?
01:49 AM on 12/09/2010
I'm a tenured professor in a biochemistry department at a well-known state medical school. You are totally full of it. You have no idea what you are talking about. If anything, open atheists are the ones facing discrimination far more than those who tow the religious line. Almost all of the administrators and department heads at our institution are very prominent members of their churches, often in positions of authority on parish councils and school boards at parochial schools. Their kids often go to one of the major Catholic, Episcopalian, or Baptist/Evangelical high schools and grades schools.

Where do you get such idiotic notions?
02:46 PM on 12/20/2010
Catholics have no problem with evolution as a theory that was made plain by the last Pope.
Its a fundamentalist Protestant issue.
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08:51 AM on 12/07/2010
Daleri Rileda. You told us earlier that " It was the isolation that made people differant,even though we are not that differant" Thus these changes produced differing races from the sons of Noah.
Do you not see that these changes produced by "isolation" as each genitic pool changed/adapted is exactly what Evolution is. You admit these 'differances' that took place over a few hundred thousand yeas (much less according to some Religionist) .
Wouldn't these changes because of isolation and adaption to changing environments ,over billions of years , eventually sometimes lead to entirely new species ?.

Every being in this world is differant(AFAIK). No two beings produce an ofspring exactly like either parent.
Depending on the genetic make up of each isolated pool, and the natural selection of the surviving
life to adapt to it's changing ( differing) environment gives us the very 'differance' you talk about.
With Noah's sons you have described evolution though just a tiny nano secound of time/change in the grand scale of the Universe.
You seem to have taken hold of an attractive idea and now must shape or discount any new informantion to fit your preconcieved conclusion. Try this. Let the evidence lead you to an opinion, not vice verca.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
07:03 PM on 12/07/2010
No, the changes and the variation is from the mixing of the genome, not the result of mutations that cannot and do not even account for all of the uniform variation that we see.
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07:30 AM on 12/08/2010
You keep talking about mutations. ? What do you mean. I'm not talking about a sudden mutation. I'm talking about gradual change over thousands and millions of years, As my post clearly stated.
Of course change if from combining genes and producing a offspring different from either parent .And different from all othe creatures. And over the eons when the changes/differences become great enough, we call them 'new species'.
We all share a 'Lucy' type being as an ancestor. Every being is different, change upon change over the centuries and here we are.
It is in plain sight for all to see. But you got to get your head out of "The Book".
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PatrickforO
America needs a Labor Party
04:33 AM on 12/07/2010
Crossbows. In the eleventh century, Pope Urban II made crossbows legal again after his predecessor declared them illegal because they were 'un-knightly.' Why? Urban wanted to begin a crusade to take the 'holy land' away from the Muslims, and the crossbow, particularly the arquebus, was necessary to accomplish this end. It is ironic that civilizations that sprung from northern Europe attained the preeminence they have by learning to kill on an assembly line basis - basically applying science to human destruction and the amassing of power and wealth, but these same dogmatists disagree with applying same to stem cells and other research that could help humanity. Darwin didn't believe in God because he was disgusted that God had created hundreds of intestinal parasites, for instance, that could plague a human being. He saw the fragility of life and asked why. It is also ironic to me that creationists have not come to terms with things like breeding animals for selective traits. Why, I ask, could God have not created through evolution? What is so wrong with that idea? Or, if you want to be really radical, what if God was omnipotent, but could not be omniscient until he had created evil; could not really know darkness until he had created it, and so blew himself up and now experiences life through the trillions of little bits and pieces, and the billions of people?
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Daleri Rileda
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06:34 AM on 12/07/2010
God and His universe has to be perfect. If not, He has to pay for it which He did because we messed it up for Him.
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07:54 AM on 12/07/2010
How could a "perfect" being create the imperfect us ? Perfection can never create imperfection nor vice versa. " He has to pay for it " You mean like a fine ? Who does he pay to ? Who holds "him" accountable? By the way , how was "God" created ?
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Doctor Nick
Hi, everybody!
02:38 AM on 12/07/2010
I'm curious if the creationist(s) on this thread have any arguments for their particular view of creation - old earth, young earth, christian, hindu, what have you. It's very easy to be skeptical and point out gaps in our knowledge.
The crux of the ID debate, which is underscored by this article, is that ID doesn't really make any positive arguments that would lead us to adopt a particular theory of how things came to be the way they are, other than by divine intervention. Divine intervention which of course does not have to follow the regularities that a scientific theory does so generates few testable predictions, requires divine agency rather than physical and potentially replicable processes (so is utterly useless to we humans, unless there are gods among us),
and ultimately provides little to no basis for discriminating between different (potentially ludicrous) cosmogonies. Divine intervention also provides no explanation for the origins of the divine - the standard to which it holds the physical world. Even if we got Daleri and others to agree that man came from monkey
all the way down to primordial soup, they would still have the origins of the universe, they would still maintain
that everything has to have a first cause, that the order in the universe requires an intelligent plan and design,
and that God is exempted from these requirements.

If you want to call God the measure of our ignorance perhaps I might agree with you, but most creationists have (ludicrous)
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
03:23 AM on 12/07/2010
Does that mean that we are on to something after all?

There is still no way for the genome to get new information. It can only corrupt or warp the information that it already has.
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09:05 AM on 12/07/2010
The genitics change with every new combination. Therefore each new generation is"new information". The pool is not corrupted or warped it is simply changed. "IT" survives or perishes acording to "it's" ability to change and adapt to the everchanging environment.
Big meat eating dinosaurs didn't do so well. Little furry ,burrowing warm blooded creatures survived. OR God loved little furry animals and was bored with Big Ugly ones.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
04:48 AM on 12/07/2010
Eggs and chickens were not the choices.

That's what I said. Dawkins defers evolution to some other time and place. Bacteria is still not enough supposed accomplished evolution.

If (since) there is no bacteria on Mars, that should be a real wake-up call for you.
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09:14 AM on 12/07/2010
How do you know at this time what bacteria or any life has/not or will some day emerge on Mars when the conditions are just right ? We will most probably go to Mars and will , If we haven't allready, introduce bacteria/life to that planet. Billions of years after we have moved on what will that life have evolved into ? To say nothing of seeds of life in astroids , just 'lookin' for the right porriage.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
12:15 AM on 12/07/2010
Will the real scientist please stand up?

They like to send their students so they don't look so silly.

Intelligence does not come from having no intelligence.

I can't make it easier to understand than that.
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09:16 AM on 12/07/2010
Intelligence does not come from jumping to a conclusion then making the evidence fit the conclusion
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
06:16 PM on 12/07/2010
I took the fasttrack to understanding because I believed what has already been proved. I advanced to the next level.

"I understand more than all my teachers because I consider all of the testimonies that were left for me to see." (Paraphrased)

I did not make up any of the evidence. It was already there for me to observe.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
10:05 PM on 12/06/2010
It is evolution that is the fraud. It has never been proved and it makes lousy science. There is no way of getting any new information.
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Donell Wickett
Right is wrong
10:50 PM on 12/06/2010
Please, put down your bible, do some research and come back with an intelligent response. ID(creationism) has been repeatedly and thoroughly been struck down by the courts. Are you trying to say that ID is good science?
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
11:16 PM on 12/06/2010
I am saying that the elements of the universe are universally interchangeable working machine parts that work together inside of us with intent and purpose according to billions of observable digits of preexisting directives that literally order the formation of every life form there is.

That means there is a very knowledgeable Maker because working machine parts cannot design themselves, make themselves to work or order themselves by themselves.
10:38 AM on 12/27/2010
control seems to be the issue, then the issue is control.
02:08 PM on 01/02/2011
You're aware that there is no such thing as "new" information, right? The Law of Conservation.
08:13 PM on 12/06/2010
Although not a Christian, I am glad to see that thinking Christians are becoming more vocal on the issue of ID as a fraud.......reason infomed by evidence/experience is a powerfull force for enlightenment...
07:22 PM on 12/06/2010
The Church has never promoted nor dissuaded intelligent design or evolution or anything outside of the bounds of the Christian Truth. So Catholics are free to argue and argue like anyone else about these subjects. With that said, intelligent design never really had Catholic support in large part due to Thomists like Feser. It isn't biblical, it is not Church teaching, it isn't Christian.
06:10 PM on 12/06/2010
The inability of the masses to grasp and integrate the mathematics and science of a fact does not, in fact, invalidate the fact.
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Daleri Rileda
Jungle Jargon
06:51 PM on 12/06/2010
Yes, the fact of Creation. Not everybody can grasp it. It is quite simple though. Objects do not do anything.
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michelesda
My micro-bio is empty.
08:34 PM on 12/06/2010
Objects don't do anything? Beggin' your pardon, but objects do a lot. Objects are made of atoms, which are made of subatomic particles, and all of these things are in constant, fantastic motion, so fast that they appear to be everywhere at once, or they wouldn't even exist. That's the only reason you can even see and feel the keyboard you are typing on, since in reality it's mostly just empty space.
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Donell Wickett
Right is wrong
10:51 PM on 12/06/2010
Creation is not a 'fact' never will be. Google the word faith and you will have your answer.
05:49 PM on 12/06/2010
Just for fun! let's say for example that it takes 20 proteins and 14 amino acids and to make 0ne living single cell organism, or a basic living thing. now let's say these 34 things (I will just call them things) were in the atlantic ocean swimming around all by their self looking for each other in order to come together to make this single cell organism. now to make it more fun- lets say these 34 ( things) were marbles and 20 of them were blue and 14 of them were green and the rest of the marbles in the atlantic ocean were white. Here is what I want you to do: I want you to take a Scoop the only holds 34 marbles (MAX) and after oooh lets say a few billion years of the ocean churning around mixing these things( these marbles) up. I want you to take that scoop and scoop it into the ocean( as many times as you want) but! only one scoopy try per 1 billion years- and come out with only 20 blue and 14 green marbles. and when you get them all in the scoop together without any white ones, then you can say evolution is possible. oops!
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MagicManDoneIt
When facts are lacking. Just say...
01:37 AM on 12/07/2010
I think the ocean has few extra marbles, most notably the ones that leaked out of your head.
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12:58 PM on 12/21/2010
not nice
03:33 PM on 12/08/2010
In other words... "just for fun" let's pretend we're dealing with a process that behaves NOTHING like organic chemistry or any biological process in the real world.

Why exactly are we engaging in this "fun" little exercise?
04:49 PM on 12/20/2010
That's hard to say. Michael Hentzel knows so little about biochemistry that he doesn't know that amino acids are the components of proteins.