John Marshall

John Marshall

Posted: August 14, 2009 07:12 PM

Obama to Drop "Health" and "Care" from Health Care Plan

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If you're happy with your health care debate, you get to keep it. If you're not happy, or you simply cannot afford to participate in dialogue, you get to shout it down until there's nothing left of it.

WASHINGTON - In an effort to pass a bi-partisan bill with a Republican party that wouldn't give him a glass of water if his tie were on fire, President Obama plans to take a diluted health care plan that was already pre-approved by the insurance industry and eliminate "health" and "care" from it.

Having abandoned the idea of a public option, and planning to abandon the idea of non-profit cooperatives, the next step will be abandoning health care altogether, according to a spokesman.

"Some will be upset that we didn't get everything we wanted, or anything, even," said the spokesman. "But we've worked hard to come up with a compromise that both Republicans AND the insurance companies find acceptable, and still they hate us like we ran over their family pet."

He added, "For a neoliberal administration to be accused of being liberal, and then to see town hall meetings where our mild health proposal gets slammed by mostly fat people, we had to do something."

The plan, now called just "Plan," contains no references to medicine, doctors, insurance or illness, reflecting the fact that the country which just elected a government to provide them with health care does not trust the government to provide them with health care.

According to the spokesman, the administration holds out hope that the new non-plan plan will appeal to both parties, although it appears that the electorate is also opposed to government-run bipartisanship.

"As a country, we are focused on non-existent things, like death panels, instead of things with non-existent benefits, like the bailout," said the spokesman. "As the only industrialized nation without universal health care, we have a proud tradition of getting sick and dying without government interference."

He added that the whole issue may be moot, as what is most likely to happen is that the U.S. foreign debt will grow so large that the United States will soon be owned lock, stock and barrel by another country, say, China.

"We will lose all our freedoms, but gain all their health care," he said. "Instead of a socialist public option, there'll be a state-sponsored Communist one. Then if you want to shout it down, you'll have to learn how to speak Mandarin."

 
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Wow...peop­le...heeee­lloooooo
This peace is in the comedy section of Huffington post...get a clue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 08/30/2009
- Scarborian I'm a Fan of Scarborian 21 fans permalink
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Do you really want the likes of AIG to control your access to your doctor?

"Government of the people, by the people, for the convenience of the insurance companies"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:20 PM on 08/18/2009
- mjc I'm a Fan of mjc 10 fans permalink

What we will be getting is a "health" "care" plan for insurance companies. They are the only segment of our society that will benefit from any of what is now considered to be a health care system. Sure I blame Repuglys but mostly think it is the basic plan that the Obama administration was touting for weeks, even before he was installed as our president and Obama's promises have turned to dust instead of programs. Basically, Obama will take any bill that can be passed, and with any luck with Republican votes as well, and declare SUCCESS!!
Who are we going to be looking for to run as the Democrat in 2012? That's the only question left to ask or answer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 08/17/2009
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Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Florida's chief executive drew $4.7 million in total compensation last year -- making him among the top paid Blue Cross CEOs nationwide. This as the Jacksonville-based insurer pink-slips some rank-and-file employees and trims administrative costs.

Meanwhile, BC/BS (we have finally discovered what the BS means) denies care for someone who has a pre-existing condition, or makes them pay $40 co pay for a drug that can be bought in Canada for $18 Cash.

What's wrong with this picture people? We need a Government "Citizencare' health plan for Americans. Period. Write to Congress, write to the White House. We can make it happen but we need to give the Blue Dogs some BALLS to play with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 AM on 08/19/2009


The Status Quo are selling propaganda and downright lies, across the TV, radio bandwidths. LIES! Lies and more lies about both Health care and illegal immigration. The facts are that President Obama has an objective of introducing a Canadian and European type single payer system.

In truth it's like a nationwide­--MEDICARE­--like all senior citizens receive now. It's only difference their will be--NO CO-PAYS, DEDUCTIONS, NO PREMIUMS AND NO PRE -EXISTING CONDITIONS. The Special interest lobbyists, who work for the wealthy health care industry, are using every means possible to derail any kind of Universal health care. We must remember the British/English, French, German, Danish and other have been well accepted by their population for decades, with no worries about bankruptcy or Debt collectors calling. My health care in England, was first class when I lived in there, without financial worries and no distractions from profiteering insurance companies.As a child and a young man I choose my doctor and received eye and dentistry visits free of charges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 08/16/2009



I NEVER HAD TO WAIT FOR A SURGERY FOR MONTHS, AS THE SPECIAL INTEREST LOBBY TRIES TO IMPLY? EMERGENCY PROCEDURES WERE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY. One should remember that there a large majority of nefarious special interest groups, who enjoy the status quo and will fight with propaganda and lies against their profiteering. Another place where I lived was Australia, where the health care system is equally as great as England. One year I was employed by Australian Main Roads as a junior surveyor and stepped into a fire ants nest, ending up in hospital. Once again my cost was--ZERO--because I paid into the system. There is something very calming, without the worry of billing statements pouring through the mailbox demanding money and threatening you with an attorney.

Since the inception of the European common market and the directive of open borders for cheap labor pouring into the industrialized nations, they have been overwhelmed by the impoverished needing health care. Such conditions didn't exist before the 1960's, as the their was no mass immigration and waiting periods. In America today and since the newest waves of legal and illegal immigration, costs to medicate these people have sky rocketed who have never paid one penny into the system. Each previous government never have restricted immigration, but allowed taxpayers to pay for their health care and welfare benefits. Each year approximately 1.5 million new immigrants are granted work visas and many become public charges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 08/16/2009



Now Obama is insisting on yet another AMNESTY, which will be even costlier to the American taxpayers, so says the Heritage foundation. American taxpayers should not have to subsidize US businesses, which has been happening for years? A large majority of pariah corporate executives, do not want any restrictions on foreign national workers, that is why they have tried to kill a mandated E-Verify identity data base, to extract all illegal immigrants from the working environment.

That SANCTUARY STATES like California must rescind illegal immigrant refuge policies. That President Obama's health care renewal plan—WILL--attract millions more impoverished people from around the world. That they can join with the 20 plus million already here, to get free medical care under the Democrats law now passing through Congress.

Observe this PETITION to STOP any health care to illegal immigrants at: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/nohealthcareforillegals

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 08/16/2009
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-So let me understand your point: If your contractor happens to hire an illegal or two to put a new roof on your upscale house as the low bidder that you prize, and one of those guys has Tuberculosis, you'd rather that he continue spreading TB than that he get treated for a communicable deadly disease? Makes sense! Go for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 08/19/2009

It would have been funnier without the anti-fat bigotry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 08/16/2009
- John Marshall - Huffpost Blogger I'm a Fan of John Marshall 6 fans permalink

Sorry. Didn't mean to come across as "anti-fat." I just thought it was worth mentioning that many of the protesters who were so passionate about health care were themselves overweight or otherwise out of shape.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 AM on 08/17/2009
- JakeAZ I'm a Fan of JakeAZ 7 fans permalink
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Thanks for commenting back, great piece anyway and I have forwarded the link to it to all my friends!

It might be, though, that people who are "overweight" or "out of shape" are so for a reason other than laziness or lack of will power to eat healthier. Maybe they're arthritic and can't exercise, or they're too poor to be able to buy expensive organic healthy food, or they might live in places where the only options for "going out to dinner" are McD's and KFC, and Circle K is the grocery store.

That said, the shout-downers are still morons, whether their body composition is their fault or not. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 08/17/2009
- hsr0601 I'm a Fan of hsr0601 2 fans permalink

Good News !

A staff writer at The New Yorker and some experts have examined Medicare data from the successful hospitals of 10 regions, and they have found evidence that more effective, lower-cost care is possible.

Please be 'sure' to visit http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/opinion/13gawande.html?hp for credible evidences !

Some have followed the Mayo model with salaried doctors employed, Other regions, too, have found ways to protect patients against the pursuit of revenues over patient.
And a cardiac surgeon of them said they had adopted electronic systems, examined the data and found that a shocking portion of tests were almost certainly unnecessary, possibly harmful.

According to analysis, their quality scores are well above average. Yet they spend more than $1,500 (16 percent) less per Medicare patient than the national average and have a slower real annual growth rate (3 percent versus 3.5 percent nationwide).

Surprisingly, 16 % of about $550 billion (the total of medicare cost per year) is around $88 billion per year, except for Medicaid (total cost of around $500 billion per year), medicare 'alone' can save $880 billion over the next decade.

In addition, under the reform package, along with the already allocated $583 billion, the wastes involving so called "doughnut hole" , the unnecessary subsidies for insurers, abuse, exorbitant costs by the tragic ER visits etc are weeded out, the concern over revenue might be a thing of the past.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 08/14/2009
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