John McQuaid

John McQuaid

Posted April 24, 2009 | 01:09 PM (EST)

Karl Rove Tweets on Torture


Why is the notion of Karl Rove tweeting in defense of Bush administration torture policies so disturbing?

Precautions taken 2 guarantee compliance w/ federal prohibition on torture. U might characterize diligence as overcautious.#TCOT #SGP #HHRS

Yes, I suppose U might be impatient with the amount of legal and bureaucratic activity the Bush White House set in motion to justify waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation techniques" if U belonged to the Khmer Rouge or the Syrian secret police (though if U were a Nazi, this fastidiousness would seem nothing exceptional).

But seriously, this is ... icky. And on about three different levels. Rove is not a lawyer or an intelligence expert; he is no position to judge the merits of legal memos or other steps taken to justify "enhanced interrogation." And in general, nothing he says about what went on in the Bush White House can be taken as anything but spin. He's also a particularly amoral political operative; throughout his career he's has prided himself not just on winning but on using underhanded tactics to destroy the reputations of his opponents. That such a man is blithely spinning on one of the gravest moral issues before us is both ridiculous and chilling, an example of the Bush administration's elevation of politics above even the nation's bedrock ideals. That Rove is doing this on Twitter (with hashtags!) just adds a layer of absurdity to the whole thing, while giving a bad name even to the "had too much butter on my pancakes" Twitterer class.

Why is the notion of Karl Rove tweeting in defense of Bush administration torture policies so disturbing? Precautions taken 2 guarantee compliance w/ federal prohibition on torture. U might character...
Why is the notion of Karl Rove tweeting in defense of Bush administration torture policies so disturbing? Precautions taken 2 guarantee compliance w/ federal prohibition on torture. U might character...
 
 
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11:26 AM on 04/25/2009
Looked up Rove on Wikipedia. His "pranks" have a habit of serving his interests and demonstrate a mind totally uninterested in right or wrong. I also did not see anything about him ever getting a degree. He seems to have been in and out of college during the Vietnam War, but other than the resulting deferments, there is no indication that he ever was a serious student. I am starting to see a pattern of loud mouthed, self-obsessed drop outs determining Republican policy. Explains a lot about the nature of the policy, but not why anyone buys it.
09:36 AM on 04/25/2009
Karl Rove, born 1950, is one of the most responsible for getting us into the Iraq War, and yet he did not serve even one day in uniform. Why the defense establishment cowtows to people like him is beyond me. Then again, the higher-aren't the ones taking the risks. I guess they have a lot in common with a civilian like Karl Rove.
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StillAmused
Some mayo on that troll, please...
06:28 AM on 04/25/2009
Just an extension of Rove's college pranks, from which he never graduated. Whatever power awaits us, when it's Rove's turn to cross over, he'll be spinning the gatekeeper while checking his messages.
02:12 AM on 04/25/2009
I just heard Rove in a bizarre rant about how Obama was like a Latin American banana republic dictator because he was investigating the previous administration on "policy differences". He was refering to the torture investigations.

It was just so weird because I always thought the test of a real banana republic dictatorship was how it treated prisoners. Argentina threw nuns out of helicopters and Chile had its "house of screams". We had Guantanamo - under Rove, not Obama.

How can somebody get it so very wrong?
01:53 AM on 04/25/2009
To vote for special prosecution go to:

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=Nat_Petition_SpecialProsecutor&s_src=olcpage&s_subsrc=flyer

God help us.

The radical right certainly is'nt.
11:01 PM on 04/24/2009
It seems very interesting that the same people that are opposed to severe interrogation methods to obtain information to protect America because it is inhumane and "we are better than that", are the same people that fully support abortion. Interesting Huh!

I doubt this will get posted!!
12:25 AM on 04/25/2009
C'mon, why change the subject? Do you really want that argument? It can just as easily be turned around by saying that those who are pro-life are fully supportive of torture, the death penalty, and needless wars that result in thousands of deaths. It's better just to deal with the subject at hand.
01:05 AM on 04/25/2009
And many of the people who oppose abortion because only God should take a life - support the death penalty. Interesting, huh??
10:42 PM on 04/24/2009
Texans, instead of cheering on guys like Bush and Rove, you should pull a Daisey Chicks number.
01:13 AM on 04/25/2009
That's a nice thought - but, I'm guessing you've never been to Texas, have you?
(Austin doesn't count)
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DaCoach
04:11 PM on 04/25/2009
Are you suggesting that the 44% of Texans who supported Obama have left the state? Let's not generalize.
08:42 PM on 04/24/2009
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Knowledge is power, and lies diminish the knowledge of deceived dupes, and therefore diminishes the power of the deceived. Deception obscures the alternatives that people have. It also clouds up various objectives people would work toward. Some people give up certain objectives due to their mis-perceptions that the objective is undesirable or unattainable.

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Proud_Liberal
02:11 AM on 04/25/2009
Jesus Christ! Why don't you give it a rest already?
03:17 AM on 04/25/2009
Even in control of many bloggers, turning them into... BORES. Aaiiiyeeee!
08:38 PM on 04/24/2009
@karlrove : go to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200
08:23 PM on 04/24/2009
Karl Rove can rattle on in whatever media he likes, it doesn't make torture any less morally bankrupt. It's time to stop following Karl and his ilk. Time to stop giving in to fear and the ticking timebomb scenario.
03:48 AM on 04/25/2009
Only one station will have him on and that is fox republican news.
07:05 PM on 04/24/2009
The last desperate cries of a has-been going down with the entire sinking ship.
03:46 AM on 04/25/2009
do you think the dem. have the balls to take him on, nine judges are still waiting for justice from the democrat'sCheney and Rove don't think that the democrat's have the balls, they are obstructing the president and we the people are letting them hold up progress for the country, i'am talking about the republican, who are still lying to us, with their invisible plan, doing what the boss Limbaugh told them to do, no to everything the president is trying to do for the country, save it from the mess that that president Bush left us.
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because life is too short!!
06:41 PM on 04/24/2009
Rove "throughout his career he's has prided himself not just on winning but on using underhanded tactics to destroy the reputations of his opponents". Now this is chilling! And because it is true, it amazes me that anyone would give credence to what he says, because he cannot be trusted to tell the truth. And does anybody really think that he does NOT have a hidden agenda by his contrived rhetoric?
03:12 PM on 04/24/2009
It's not that I wouldn't think him capable of doing this, but what makes you so sure that this is really Karl Rove Tweeting?
If he did it must be a sign of how desperate he is getting.
02:16 PM on 04/24/2009
The real question is: what kind of person subscribes to Karl Rove's twitter?

My guess: probably just liberal journalists waiting for him to say something so they can unleash vitriol, and maybe a few Republican staffers looking for talking points.

Seriously, Karl Rove is a non-player. Just let him disappear (unless he's being forced to respond to a subpoena).
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05:50 PM on 04/24/2009
Terrific answer. Who would follow Karl Rove?
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vippy
Carpe Diem!
02:11 PM on 04/24/2009
This argument by Rove goes over well with FOX News Watchers and a small percentage of people who believe that these methods made our nation safer when it did exactly the opposite.
06:55 PM on 04/24/2009
Yes, even the military says that torture is unreliable...which is understandable! I don't think people watch kr for what he has to say (no I would not call it intellect!), more of curiosity. Why is that gopp'r shouting???