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Who Controls Rep. Giffords' Seat -- She or the People of Arizona?

Posted: 01/20/11 04:46 PM ET

The shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords has led to a multitude of unanswered questions surrounding: gun regulation (or lack thereof); heated political rhetoric and its consequences; and what if any effect all of this will have on the 2012 presidential election.

An additional question yet to be properly discussed much less answered is: Who will represent Arizona in Giffords' stead? Thankfully Rep. Giffords is on the road to recovery. However, it will be long, arduous and unpredictable. There is no doubt her constituents mourn for her and her family. But does that mean they should also go without representation in Congress? Certainly not.

Arizona state law provides for a remedy. When an official officeholder is unable to "discharge the duties of office for the period of three consecutive months, the office shall be deemed vacant and at such time, a special election could be called to fill the opening," The Washington Post reports. The problem is that law most likely does not apply in this particular situation.

"Legally, it's not a close call," said Brian Svoboda, an attorney and expert in political law. "You have a history of interpreting these constitutional decisions and the courts have consistently struck down state laws that have tried to impose additional qualifications beyond those that are set forth in the Constitution."

So if the Arizona law is not applicable, is there a federal law that is? No, not really. Nothing forces determinative action regarding an incapacitated member of Congress. In fact, there is a long history of members serving for years in such an incapacitated state pleas from others notwithstanding.

Only once ever has a member in such a state vacated office. In 1980, Rep. Gladys Spellman (MD) suffered a heart attack then slipped into a coma. Surprisingly she won re-election anyway but her family soon agreed to vacate her seat, and she never did come out of her coma. But is this how it should be? Should constituents allow members to hold onto their seats like political Brett Favres with no concept of when it is time to go?

Stepping down from one's office is nothing to be ashamed of. In actuality, the shame lies in not being honest with one's own self about the responsibilities that voters have entrusted in one and the expectations they have. Constituents should expect that an official will either be appointed or a special election held within six months, not years. This current Congress should take this issue up immediately and in consultation with Giffords' family and Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer come to an appropriate remedy.

After all, Rep. Giffords is not the only person suffering in Arizona. On Oct. 1, 2010, Arizona stopped funding seven kinds of transplant surgery for Medicaid recipients.

This kind of rationing is not a first, but it is certainly a dire situation for those who have no other means of paying for much-needed care.

And that's not the only problem. Arizona recently slashed mental health funding too. Sure, that may change now that a light is being shined on the supposed mental issues of Jared Loughner, Rep. Giffords shooter. But Arizona needs representation in Congress that can fight on its behalf -- just like every other state.

Legislators elsewhere share their condolences and pray for Giffords' speedy recovery as much as anyone else. That doesn't mean they'll be fighting for Arizona's interests in the halls of Congress. Arizona can't afford to wait for the next shooting to get some additional federal funding. Let's hope that's not becoming the most effective way to lobby for more federal money.

John S. Wilson blogs at Policy Diary on health and education policy. Follow him on Twitter and become a fan on Facebook. This post appeared first at TheLoop21.

 
 
 
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Michael Lindley
American in Paris
04:30 PM on 02/16/2011
Slow news day, John? There is an Arizona state law, an opposition governor and a district that loves this representative. Some people will put honoring her, her health, her struggle and her return to work more than they will worry about whether or not they get a vote in Congress when they are in the minority. We aren't born to work, we are born to live, and work is just one aspect of what we do. This drive to make sure that production goes on no matter what is callous and cold at its worst, but at best, a demonstration of a lack of familiarity of the love Americans are willing to show those that work for them.
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10:21 AM on 01/23/2011
I live in CD-8, and I will fight any effort to replace Giffords at this point. I am happy to wait a full year for her. Nothing is going to happen in the next two years anyway that would make much difference, and her staff is more than capable of handling things for us in her absence. I know Ms. Giffords, and she will be back!
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Khirad
01:44 AM on 01/22/2011
As someone who lives in CD-8, votes, and has volunteered for Gabby, way too soon sir, way too soon.

Let's start thinking about this in another month or two, maybe. And comparing Gabby to Brett Favre was very unnecessary. He has no class, she has it in spades. Enough that should she recover she'll probably forgive you for being so callous and flippant about her condition.

Until then, even though we have no vote in D.C., I get some small satisfaction that Raúl is handling our constituent affairs at least.

Until then, don't deign to speak for us, please.
01:49 PM on 01/21/2011
How impressive­! Mr. Wilson knows more about Rep. Giffords' prospects than her doctors do and has more concern for representa­tion for Arizona's 8th district than its citizens do. Touching.

Actually, Mr. Wilson, your article disgusts me. Couldn't you give Rep. Giffords at least two full weeks before you start burying her, whether literally or figurative­ly, personally or politicall­y?

Maybe you didn't notice she was shot - WHILE IN SERVICE to the people of southeaste­rn Arizona and her country. Does that count for nothing? Doesn't it even rate the common decency of not pouncing on the opportunit­y her horrendous misfortune could create so quickly, before we even know what her condition will be or when we'll know?

It appears that you just want to finish the job Loughner failed to complete.

How many representa­tives don't show up for votes and don't work, even when allegedly on the job in Congress - and get re-elected repeatedly­? Where are your articles about replacing them? Or those who are semi-comat­ose or senile forever?

Ms. Giffords is known as a hard-worki­ng, dedicated representa­tive who fights fiercely for the people of her district and the nation, but you want to turn her out before anyone knows whether she will be capable of returning to Congress or when. Couldn't be because a candidate you prefer might win her seat, could it? You wouldn't stoop that low, would you?

You are a prime example of political tone deafness and lack of empathy and ethics.
01:26 PM on 01/21/2011
What is wrong with this site?

Only 2 posts in the last 9 hours is not typical of HP, espcially on a high interest subject like GGiffords.

I have tried to post several times, but the comments won't post. Is the site defective or is someone blocking almost all comment disagreeing with the author? (it does seem to be 100% against his POV.)
12:40 PM on 01/21/2011
Too soon.
10:04 AM on 01/21/2011
Well--the citizens of D. C. have a representative--but no vote. No one seems overly concerned.
04:48 AM on 01/21/2011
She was standing today and may be walking tomorrow. Shooting her in the head wasn't enough for some.Just shows where their emotions are.First she was gunned down and since it wasn't as successful as some desire, now they want to take her down.Goes to show all they wanted was the seat.
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sporttrac
errinjohnson
09:24 AM on 01/21/2011
In 12 day Congresswoman Giffords has made tremendous recovery. I would focus more on her full recovery than trying to find a replacement. She is such a strong woman who I would want for my congresswoman. Representatives of her quality is not easy to come by. She deserves our respect and our compassion. She is making progress, lets focus on how that outcome. She is a fighter and wants to live. Giffores is someone with qualities who puts the people first and not special interest groups bought by lobbyist. Would you want someone who is not bought. How rare this is becoming. My support is for her full recovery.
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WASanford
I think, therefore I am mad as hell!
11:46 PM on 01/20/2011
The author of this post essentially asked the question of who owns Giffords' congressional seat, but there's no question that the seat belongs to the constituents in the district who elected her to office. Did anyone get that, they elected her to sit in that seat and represent them. Congress isn't going to do anything for two years anyway, they can wait if they want to. No one should look at Giffords' misfortune as an opportunity to put a fear mongering, hate mongering, war mongering republican in her place!!
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Khirad
01:47 AM on 01/22/2011
Nailed it especially as nothing will get done in the House the next two years anyway, and that as I voted for her I also agree, I elected her to serve her term.

I know I can at least have the patience to wait and see her prognosis for recovery in further detail as it becomes more known. So far it has been phenomenal.
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WASanford
I think, therefore I am mad as hell!
10:57 AM on 01/22/2011
Thank you. It's good to see that we're both on the same page!
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10:46 PM on 01/20/2011
The question should be: Who is in control-Rep Giffords, the House, or the State?
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Boereworsrocks
One of the sinking middle class!!
10:45 PM on 01/20/2011
I suggest that the Governor of Arizona appoint a temporary replacement that represents the people of that area i.e Gabby Giffords is a centrist Democrat. Temporarily replace Gabby with someone of a similar mindset until we know what the long term outcome for Gabby is going to be. Leaving that seat vacant does not benefit or serve her constituents in any way. I am sure Gabby would want the best for them. Just my opinion .....
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Dave AlmostEquality
01:17 PM on 01/21/2011
While I agree with you in theory, Brewer is a hard-core righty. Do you REALLY think she would appoint a "centrist Democrat" to fill in?
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Autismmomx4
Autism rocks! and flaps and spins..
10:42 PM on 01/20/2011
If they take her job away from her, won't she lose her healthcare?
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Khirad
01:50 AM on 01/22/2011
I dunno, her husband is a Navy Commander...
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ShinjiIkari
Do you understand how stupid it is to be afraid?
10:30 PM on 01/20/2011
Mr. Wilson, it's April 13, 1981, two weeks after the shooting of Ronald Reagan. He's in bad shape, having taken a bullet in the chest, and is sucking oxygen 24/7, but the White House hunkers down behind Chief of Staff Alexander Haig, who will not allow talk of implementing the 25th Amendment, which was written for just such a moment. Supposedly with the intent of not looking weak with Russia watching, Haig forbids Vice President Bush from writing the letter that would enable him to step into the Presidency, even temporarily. Instead, the White House pretends that Reagan is recovering masterfully. (This stuff is documented in Herb Abrams's book "The President Has Been Shot")

Do you want to tell them that the country needs a 24/7 President, and Haig should follow the 25th Amendment?
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10:42 PM on 01/20/2011
Haig was SecState. Which is really scary, because he didn't know the line of succession! He actually thought he was first after the VP!

Reagan could have signed a letter giving the powers to Bush, but Bush would have had to get the Cabinet to invoke the 25th if Reagan was alive but incapacitated.

The whole "Mommie I forgot to duck" thing was total BS-Reagan was near death and not conscious when he got to GW.

Total fraud on the American people. Bush was livid-he was on a plane and the WH was freezing him out.

All those people including Haig should have gone to jail.
11:57 PM on 01/20/2011
That's a fair question. I'm not sure and it would really depend on the circumstances on the ground (i.e., what all the variables were in play back then). However, your analogy proved my point: While there are succession plans fully in place for presidents in case of medical incapacitation, there is none for congressional members. And that is what I'm arguing that we need.
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ShinjiIkari
Do you understand how stupid it is to be afraid?
11:15 AM on 01/22/2011
Yes, a plan was in place. But the Haig White House decided to blow off the 25th Amendment plan, for whatever reason, be it realpolitik or partisanship. We need a lot of things. However, in one of Shakespeare's plays a character says "I can call spirits from the vasty deep." Someone replies, "But will they come when you call them?" Variables in play, indeed.
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10:08 PM on 01/20/2011
This does present some interesting questions. Does anyone know of any precedents?
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12:50 AM on 01/21/2011
Sure. Ted Kennedy was incapacitated by a terminal brain tumor and last was able to cast a vote in the Senate on April 27, 2009. He was still a Senator when he died on August 25.

Senator Tim Johnson of South Dakota suffered a stroke on December 13, 2006, and required hospitalization, surgery, and physical, occupational, and speech therapy for many months. He returned to the Senate on September 5, 2007, and was reelected in 2008.
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01:09 AM on 01/21/2011
Thank you for reminding me about Senator Kennedy and I appreciate the information about Senator Johnson, Dink. Nice research.
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Khirad
01:52 AM on 01/22/2011
I hope for the latter, naturally.

By the way, kudos on the info.
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SuzDuJour
As cute as I am funny...hey, wait a second
10:06 PM on 01/20/2011
Shouldn't your headline read, "Who Controls Rep. Giffords' Seat -- She or the People of Arizona?", not Her or the People. She controls / people of Arizona Controls...see?
dela21
I was born a winner!!
01:12 AM on 01/21/2011
Hehehe.
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Khirad
01:53 AM on 01/22/2011
No, it's the people of CD-8. And as one of them, I'm fine with her keeping it.