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Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians: Cowardly Lions

Posted: 01/21/2012 8:21 am

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As you may know, this past summer the Presbyterian Church (PCUSA) decided to allow the ordination of gay clergy.

Yesterday, a new Presbyterian denomination was born: the Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians -- or, for short, ECO.

ECO was formed by pastors and laypeople in response to PCUSA's decision to join the 21st century. They're against gay people being ordained as ministers, and so started their own sub-denomination wherein such a thing would be prohibited.

And that's fair enough. If they want to take their ball and go play with themselves in the corner, that's certainly their right.

What is certainly most notable, however, is ECO's refusal to anywhere, in any way whatsoever, just come out and say that they formed in response to PCUSA's sanctioning the ordination of gay people. Everyone knows that's why ECO formed. It's hardly a mystery or secret. Yesterday's Reuters story on the matter was titled Presbyterian group breaks away over gay clergy. Back in August, Rev. John Crosby, now the president of ECO, said, "We [the Presbyterians] have tried to create such a big tent trying to make everybody happy theologically. I fear the tent has collapsed without a center."

Wow. So, for Rev. Crosby the go-to metaphor on this matter is tent poles. Boy, for a guy who likes to sidestep the big, hot issues ...

And what deft sidestepping Rev. Crosby and his fellow ECO leaders do. A reader can search high and low throughout ECO's online site, and nowhere will they find a single, solitary word about gay people or homosexuality. They'll read how ECO wants to "connect leaders through accountable biblical relationships," to "reclaim a sense of covenanted biblical community," and to "develop gospel-centered leaders." They'll discover ECO's passion for "the right kind of diversity" (which is then carefully stipulated to mean "women, men, young leaders, and every ethnicity"). They'll readily learn of ECO's desire to "unite around a shared theological core."

But beyond that kind of dissembling, Secret Code Fundy Talk, nary a mention will they find of the true and actual reason ECO exists.

ECO honchos! Just say you've formed because you believe that gays shouldn't be ordained! If your convictions are so great they've compelled you to found a "breakaway movement," why aren't they great enough for you to be explicit about what it is you're breaking away from?

That said, though, I'm heartened by the leaders of ECO being so afraid of proclaiming their true nature and purpose. It means they're as uncomfortable as, God knows, they should be, about excluding gay people from full participation in the life that Jesus so passionately offered to all.

It's always encouraging when someone can't force their mouth to say what their heart knows is wrong. It means there's hope for them yet.

In the meantime our would-be friends at ECO are stuck, as it were, inartfully singing along with the Cowardly Lion:

I'm sure I could show my prowess / Be a lion, not a mouse / If I only had the nerve.

(UPDATE: A commenter to this post wrote: "As a PCUSA pastor I can tell you a big reason why ECO was formed was because the pastors in the anti-gay lobby receives very generous pension and medical benefits from the PCUSA that they are afraid to leave behind should they follow their conscience to disaffiliate from the denomination. ... Our pension plan is the envy of most denominations and our benefits are generous. Any minister can leave at any time to seek a call in another Presbyterian denomination that would have them [PCA, OPC, EPC, RCA, CRC, etc.]. But they don't want to give up the perks.")

 
 
 

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08:38 PM on 02/28/2012
The PC-USA is like the town that was hit by an earthquake but the church was still standing with hardly any noticeable damage to everyone's amazement. But after professionals further examined.. it had moved 2 feet off it's foundation. The PC-USA has deliberately and willfully moved away from Biblical foundational truth. We are here to glorify God and His Word/Holy Spirit is our guide. Humanism is a dangerous path to follow. But there is good news and grace that gives us a brand new start. I hope all find this freedom in Christ. Let him not only be your Savior, but the Lord of your life. All the praise be to God!
02:20 PM on 01/23/2012
The Presbyterian Churches and General Assembly have been at odds for many years. This decision was just the icing on the cake. I know many ministers who believe the Bible stories are just allegories and Satan doesn't really exist. Presyterian churches are not individually regulated. They follow the General Assemblies' decisions on the churches basic beliefs. For example, a Presbyterian church could not refuse to hire a pastor because he/she is gay, In the same way, if a pastor preached that The Divine Birth was not divine at all. He may be removed from that church.
10:21 PM on 01/23/2012
well, first of all, it wasn't a divine birth - there is no scriptural support for that at all, so that wouldn't be a basis to remove a pastor. If you're referring to the virginal conception, please remember that the only place that is mentioned is in the two infancy narratives in Matthew and Luke, which are non-historical (as they are historically and factually irreconcilable). And you see, that's the whole point. If part of the church wants to educate its parishioners and the other part is afraid to tell them the truth about the Bible, well, then you're going to run into problems, but I'm going to side w/ the truth-tellers. Please note: I'm not saying the virginal conception didn't happen, I'm just pointing out things that biblical scholars know and write about and that should be shared w/ the laity. An educated laity helps keep churches from splitting apart.
02:28 PM on 02/09/2012
Hey Joe, nice try. It's called the straw man hypothesis. One sets up a statement or belief that hasn't been espoused by anyone and spend words trashing said belief.
No one says Christ birth was " a divine birth". Your words ridiculing the idea are, therefore, wasted. Was Mary a virgin, yes, plenty of proof, Old and New Testament. Non-historical? There are over 5000 documents from the apostolic era to support the Scriptural accounts. Roman history, Greek history have no where near that number of authenticating sources.
You don't believe the Bible? Fair enough. But you don't need silly arguments to reinforce your atheism. Come on out with it! Admit it.
Like you want the ECO to do.
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iLdoRight
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08:36 PM on 01/22/2012
Have you ever heard the expression,"Bad associations spoil useful habits"?
02:41 PM on 01/22/2012
When an article says things like "everyone knows" and "it's hardly a mystery" to make its point, instead of giving actual facts and information, you know its not real journalism.
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BeninOakland
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12:37 PM on 01/22/2012
" If your convictions are so great they've compelled you to found a "breakaway movement," why aren't they great enough for you to be explicit about what it is you're breaking away from?"

I love all of these doctrinal and adminstrative "reasons" for not admitting the obvious.

The real problem here is that this breakaway group of presbyteruia ns want to be religious bigots, they just don't want to be called religious bigots. I hear this every time i hear someone tell me they don't hate gay people, they just "disagree" with homosexuality.

Like "love the sinner hate the sin", its a way of camouflaging one's true intetions, one's refusal to look honestly at an issue, and to give authority to badly translated and misused ancient texts that have been used to hurt innocent people for 1700 years, and hwich just happen to agree with one's own personal prejudices.
03:02 AM on 01/22/2012
What I don't get is why that dissenting group feels a need to create a break-away group. Since Presbyterians have a congregational form of polity, their local churches don't have to hire a gay pastor (or a female one for that matter). Am I right in my understanding of this?
10:23 AM on 01/23/2012
That isn't quite right. Presbyterian is actually their form of polity. Congregationalist is an altogether different form. Congregationalist is more isolated and independent, whereas Presbyterian shares authority between local and higher levels.
04:37 PM on 01/23/2012
yes, but the Presbytery or General Assembly could never force a local church to hire any particular pastor.
11:56 PM on 01/21/2012
This article is overtly deceptive. It ignores 45 years of decline in the PC(USA), increasingly toxic conflict, and concerns over property ownership. This descends from objective analysis into petty name calling. I was present in Orlando, and none of this article rings true.
10:20 PM on 01/21/2012
As one in attendance at this gathering in Orlando, I must say the atmosphere was refreshingly positive & gracious. A huge issue was the authority of Scripture. There were Presbyterians on many "sides" who wanted to move forward with the mission of the church without re-hashing truths that have been historically held & were essentials of the Christian faith. (salvation, view of Scripture, etc.) Again & again I heard that this was NOT about being angry or separating the "pure" from the "impure." We were counseled to take care NOT to split a church or cause division. Never in Orlando did I hear the word "gay" or "homosexual" & it is a gross misinterpretation to call any of the people "anti-gay." I understand that these are very complex & sensitive issues when it comes to sexuality & natural tendencies. My guess is that cases of ordained persons within the Presbyterian Church dealing with heterosexual relations outside of marriage far outnumber cases of ordained people engaged in homosexual activity. If I believe that the Bible says that an elder should remain faithful in marriage, should I look the other way if an ordained person says that she/he will continue in an adulterous heterosexual relationship? Of course not! While we definitely understand forgiveness & grace, we might have to deal with those in church leadership who say they won't refrain from what the Bible calls sinful behavior. For those who do not hold Scripture as the ultimate authority, this is difficult to
07:49 PM on 01/21/2012
Does it not count for anything that these people may have big hearts, and just not - due to their faith and conviction - go where the PCUSA has gone, and yet don't feel that sexuality should be so central and defining an issue as to mention it in their primary documents? Honestly, sexuality is NOT a common topic in doctrinal statements - rarely has been, to my knowledge.
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08:08 PM on 01/21/2012
Then it's really easy to just come out and say so. Isn't it?
04:38 PM on 01/23/2012
then why did they oppose removing sexuality from the ordination standards?
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07:28 PM on 01/21/2012
Dear John,
Why waste another minute trying to join a club that not only hates and fears you, but depends on magic and supernatural to defend their myopic views?
Leave the kennel to Lassie.
04:41 PM on 01/21/2012
I particularly like this line: "ECO honchos! Just say you've formed because you believe that gays shouldn't be ordained! If your convictions are so great they've compelled you to found a "breakaway movement," why aren't they great enough for you to be explicit about what it is you're breaking away from?"
02:24 PM on 01/21/2012
Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians position is no less cowardly than the PCUSA decision made on July 8th, 2010 to Paragraph G-6.0106b. The ordination standards changed from “to live either in fidelity within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman or chastity in singleness” (wording that was added to the Constitution in 1997) to: “to submit joyfully to the Lordship of Jesus Christ in all aspects of life.” The PCUSA position of permitting homosexual ordained ministers is not explicitly and boldly stated, rather it is allowed by the virtue of omission. PCUSA = the Cowardly Lion. Evangelical Covenant Order of Presbyterians is the courageous group. In the face of pressure of modern secular culture, they are standing on God's unchanging and unwavering principles outlined in his Word, commonly called the Bible. That is true courage.
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06:51 PM on 01/21/2012
Even before the Jul 2010 change, the ordination standards were already too loose compared to historical Christianity, which admits to holy ordesr (subdeacon and up) only men "of but one wife", that is still married to their first wife, and living in chastity before marrying her.
08:19 PM on 01/21/2012
Yes, lots of things were primitive in those long-ago times. The old standard was just one of them. We learn, we evolve, we improve. Speaking only for myself, I see the Holy Spirit at work in these decisions to broaden our acceptance of people and make the church more inclusive.
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09:09 PM on 01/21/2012
Let's get something clear. G-6.0106b was an innovation added to the book of order back in 1996. It was shoved into a part of the constitution that outlined in vague and general terms the characteristics of ministers, elders and deacons within the long time tradition of the ordaining body, Presbytery for ministers and Congregations for elders and deacons, having the authority to decide within those vague and general terms who met the standards.

G-6.0106b horned in a non-Presbyterian requirement removing the authority of the governing bodies and requiring them to not ordain Lesbians and Gays. But it was cowardice because it did it by language that never mentioned Lesbians and Gays.

Now we've removed that. We've returned to our historical practice of vague and general parameters and letting the appropriate governing bodies decide who fits the standards. This does allow Presbyteries to ordain Lesbian and Gay ministers or NOT. It does allow congregations to ordain Lesbian and Gay elders and deacons or NOT.

That's why it doesn't specifically mention Lesbians and Gays.

So let's quit with the distortions of what's happened. Let's make it clear that what the PCUSA has done was reject a non-Presbyterian top down requirement in ordination experiment that was an innovation of 1996.
02:04 PM on 01/21/2012
John,

Your comments concerning ECO are uninformed and make you look incompetent. I attended the conference as a centrist pastor in the PC(USA). The vision behind ECO has more to do with the fact that in the PC(USA) we are consuming an extensive amount of time and energy squabbling about theological issues that are dividing us, instead of investing in developing leaders and equipping them to fulfill the great commission. The PC(USA) is in rapid decline of its membership; perhaps you have been informed of this. The PC(USA)’s “ecosystem” is not allowing congregations and spiritual leaders to thrive and flourish. This is not only because of the church’s disconnectedness from its reformed roots and confessions, but also because of its bureaucratic structure that creates obstacles to truly discern the mind of Christ and the mission of God. The draft of polity and theology prepared by The Fellowship of Presbyterians board deals with these issues extensively.

The only cowards in all of this are journalists who do not take the time to look beneath the surface of a movement (and now emerging congregation) to understand the heart of the matter. Better luck next time. Try asking more questions before writing scathing reviews of what is quite possibly the most exciting movement that has come out of the PC(USA) in many decades.
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06:29 PM on 01/21/2012
I'm a PCUSA pastor, and I think John called it just right. If this were about bureaucratic structures -- we'd all be joining you.

The trouble ECO is going to have is getting those among you who are nearly or fully fundamentalists,-- to make peace with those who were solidly mainline -- up until this ordination question.

I suspect there is no clear agreement among you on:

-biblical inerrancy
-the salvation of those who are not Christian.

But about this, the ordination of gay men and women, -- you've found common cause. Am I right?
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12:39 PM on 01/22/2012
if i were presbyterian or christian, i would have said exactly this.
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11:13 PM on 01/21/2012
I'm a former PCUSA pastor who left, and I also think John has it right. The ECO folks never talked about leaving the denomination until the last few years when the tide started to turn on LGBT ordination. In fact, when I was in seminary, they were telling those of us in favor of LGBT ordination to go.
01:26 PM on 01/21/2012
I hear you, John. Sigh....
12:12 PM on 01/21/2012
So, here's the thing -- it's not exactly like churches would be excoriated by their communities for coming out as anti-gay. Perhaps they aren't, really, but your need to paint them all in such broad brushstrokes isn't doing your reputation any service.