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John Tarnoff

We Don't Want Our Students to Become Like Chinese Students

Posted: 01/ 3/11 01:36 PM ET

The U.S.' low PISA scores do not represent a "sputnik moment" for U.S. education. China's high test scores mask a serious problem facing Chinese education: the lack of independence, critical thinking and innovation. With all of our problems, the U.S. education system, and most importantly, our education culture, promotes new ideas, encourages competition, and rewards originality -- concepts that are outside of the traditional Chinese focus on rote memorization and quantifiable skill sets.

I'll share some personal experience in this area, but first I'd like to quote from the recent NPR report on the Shanghai school district that ranked No. 1 in the worldwide PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) test, a program sponsored by the Organization for Economic Cooperation & Development (OECD). On the one hand, you have the district administrator, understandably pleased (and smug) about the results: "All Chinese people, no matter poor or rich, they have very high expectations in education. That kind of culture pushes people to study and study and study. I think this is very important." On the other hand, you have the middle school principal who isn't so sanguine: "...the results can't cover up our problems," he says, "Why don't Chinese students dare to think? Because we insist on telling them everything. We're not getting our kids to go and find things out for themselves."

Is that what we want to become? A culture of A students who can quote chapter and verse but can't innovate their way out of a problem?

When I lectured at the Communications University of China animation school in Beijing last year, a student stood up and asked me how many minutes of film an animator typically creates in a feature animated film. He was trying to fit everything into a box, and figure out exactly what the day-to-day parameters of the job were. He was confused and unsettled by my answer. I explained to him that each animator on a big feature for the big studios (like my former colleagues at DreamWorks Animation) has a unique set of strengths, and that they are selected for the film because of these talents. One animator might be better at action, one might be better at gesture and facial expression -- so everyone contributes differently, in different proportion. It is not an assembly line where everyone just follows directions. Working in commercial feature animation is an interactive creative process. It requires constant refining and revising in order to get it right. There is no one right way to do it. It's a process that requires personal expression in service to the director's shared vision. Problems are solved by taking creative risks, and by defending and supporting one's ideas.

This is very disturbing to someone who is raised to memorize and regurgitate information; where a wrong answer is seen as a reason to be ashamed, not as an opportunity to learn and to understand. The world is moving too fast to rely solely on quantifiable information and data. We must be educated to think critically, to challenge, to debate, to engage. Despite all of our flaws and our challenges, the U.S. has been the single greatest innovator in the history of the world. Let's not forget that our innovative spirit doesn't come from our skill at taking tests. It comes from our rebelliousness, our independence, and our willingness to dream big.

Let's preserve that independent spirit and teach kids to learn because they can be powerful, not so that they can become cogs in a wheel.

 

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06:27 PM on 01/24/2011
In a few years China will be lagging behind because they will end up doing the same wrong things that we have been doing for the past 20 - 30 years and Finland will still be on top.
What do top ranking countries have in common? The simplicity and seemingly insignificant common trait among these top ranking nations ; They wait until the age of 6 or 7 to begin academic studying and training.
Reportedly, Chinese students went to school for an extra 41 days - perhaps! But, there was a time that we neared the top and without any extra days - however, during that era, we were also never imposed academic learning on children 5 and younger.
Look again at the Finnish school system. They wait until age 6 or 7 to begin academics. They have stability because they have the same teacher throughout their preschool years - in high school, students hardly get tested. Americans' are making preschool children do too much left-brain tasks, we devalue the role of preschool teachers, too much teacher turnovers (withspending more time at preschool than with their own parents - who they are supposed to get their emotional intelligence development from and their desire and motives for learning). Then, when they get into the upper grades we are testing the heck out of them.
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11:01 AM on 01/18/2011
ONe more thing. I have to agree with DAE that China really was the inventive core of the ancient world. They developed everything from deep oil drilling to the compass to decimal fractions to printing, more than a thousand years before the west. China was the first super power in the ancient world. The Chinese people may have had creativity trained out of them to a degree over the past century, but they retain enormous potential that is starting to burst forth.
10:52 AM on 01/18/2011
John, just a comment on what's happening form my POV. As an Advisory Board Member of th Institute for Digital Design, in Beijing, I've noticed this trend towards rote learning. But also, we were commissioned to find ways to teach Chinese animators to be more creative. Our team was very successful albeit with much frustration along the way. I believe the Chinese powers that be (at least some of them) want Chinese students to be creative in certain highly specific ways, but not so creative that they get out of control. Also while speaking at ICCIE, the Chinese International Arts and Culture Expo in Beijing, I noticed at several universities that the students asked questions designed to narrow concepts into boxes. I didn't realize it at the time, but that's what they were doing. They were questions on the order of: "What is the prescribed way of doing..."
03:24 PM on 01/05/2011
You still fall for that outdated idea that the lone genius always wins over group think. The number of skills and disciplines required of a practitioner in modern technology is way beyond what a single individual can ever hope to acquire. In ordinary life and in the economic development of a country what is more important is non destructive and non wasteful incremental improvements. Therefore when a problem arises what is so critical that one person must solve it instantly. The smart thing to do is to be able to stabilize the situation first and then figure out a solution. Getting a group of technically competent people to sit together to offer various solution is far preferable to someone who thinks he can solve it all by himself on the fly. Competence is reliable and predictable. An enterprise lives by this. Genius is chancy and unpredictable. An enterprise can die by this.

New and innovative thinking? America is admittedly vastly superior in this area. Your patents database is overflowing with good ideas. But how many have you brought to market?
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12:43 PM on 01/05/2011
Very shallow analysis. The question the Chinese student asked is typical of any student curious about how an industry works and what it might be like for him or herself. Chinese films are very innovative and use use all the advanced technologies that are available. I wouldn't worry about Chinese innovation. They were the world's leading technological innovators for millennia before the western industrial revolution and are sure to continue to be so into the future.
10:21 PM on 01/03/2011
The current state of innovation has nothing to do with the current pre-university education system. Obviously, there are more important factors such as post-baccalaureate formation, local expertise, number of qualified professionals, funding, etc. The reasons why the U.S. is doing so well right now is because they import many scientists from outside the U.S. According to a report released some years ago, about 57% of post-doctorates in the U.S. are foreign-born, this, of course, excludes second generation immigrants. Moreover, technologically, the U.S. barely beat Japan by about 200 trilateral patent families yearly, but per capita it is about twice less innovative. Not only that, but the U.S. relies a lot on lesser inventions such as business methods, software and biotech.
05:59 PM on 01/03/2011
The PISA test does test for a student's ability to think critically. You can see this in descriptions of the reading subscales in the study: Integrate and Interpret, and Reflect and Evaluate. Additionally, there isn't a negative correlation between rote learning and creativity nor is there some magic fairy dust buried in the American education system that insures that though American students miss the basics they get the "ability to innovate" part.
09:38 AM on 01/06/2011
thank you.
if we want to get anywhere near being "educated to think critically, to challenge, to debate, to engage" we must first be educated to know the facts and the basics. Everyone is ready to scream and cry that we need to teach innovation! and critical thinking! yet fail to realize that without teaching and having a strong foundation of basics, we'll simply never get there.
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04:25 PM on 01/03/2011
"'Why don't Chinese students dare to think? Because we insist on telling them everything. We're not getting our kids to go and find things out for themselves.' Is that what we want to become? A culture of A students who can quote chapter and verse but can't innovate their way out of a problem? .... We must be educated to think critically, to challenge, to debate, to engage. Despite all of our flaws and our challenges, the U.S. has been the single greatest innovator in the history of the world. Let's not forget that our innovative spirit doesn't come from our skill at taking tests. It comes from our rebelliousness, our independence, and our willingness to dream big."

Both research and anecdotal evidence are pretty clear that American schools also don't do a very good job of teaching students to think. See, for example:

1. http://bit.ly/bB240x &
2. http://bit.ly/dzRBDV &
3. http://bit.ly/9s5fno (see money quote at end) &
4. http://bit.ly/agrd96 &
5. http://bit.ly/h2oj8t &
6. http://amzn.to/fz1JnB

I agree that "Despite all of our flaws and our challenges, the U.S. has been the single greatest innovator in the history of the world." But that may be despite our schools, not because of them.
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07:12 PM on 01/03/2011
Thanks! I don't disagree. But schools would have to be some part of the equation, don't you think? I'm not trying to defend the U.S. education system per se, but to balance out our tendency to be reactive in the face of seemingly negative feedback. In the 90s, we were all over Japan. In the 60s, we were in a race with the Soviets. We should not similarly idolize the Chinese because they're getting good PISA scores.

There are plenty of top innovators and entrepreneurs in the U.S. who have famously bucked the education system, notably Harvard dropouts Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg. But there are also plenty of kids who were encouraged to rise through the system and emerge brilliantly because there was an appreciation for independence and initiative hard-wired into the culture. This is, after all, the land of Horation Alger and Abe Lincoln.

Again, we are tremendously challenged at the classroom level. I'm not trying to ignore that. We just need to balance out the conversation.
04:01 PM on 01/03/2011
Nice article. Let kids be kids. I shudder to think about what the test programmed curriculum we are promoting to privatize and make corporations and testing companies rich will do to our kids. Of course, they will make good willing workers for the Gates, Broad, and Walton families.