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John Tepper Marlin

John Tepper Marlin

Posted: April 5, 2008 05:31 PM

Survey: "19% Say USA on Right Track." Who ARE These People?


The lead NY Times story yesterday is headlined: "81 Percent in Poll Say Nation Is Headed on Wrong Track" and the first paragraph tells us this is the highest number since 1992 poll (this Times/CBS News poll was first conducted in 1991) and way up from the 35 percent figure in 2002.

Hmmm...
1. The last time four-fifths of the nation was so negative about the future of the United States was in the last year of the presidency of Bush 41.
2. The percentage of people generally happy with the direction of the country has been steadily declining during the presidency of Bush 43.

The surprising thing to me is not that 81 percent are depressed and say that "things in the country have pretty seriously gotten off on the wrong track" but that 19 percent are not. It means that out of 233 million noninstitutionalized American adults, 44 million believe the country is "generally going in the right direction."

Think about it - 44 million noninstitutionalized adult Americans with continuing faith that our ship of state is sailing on the right course.

A puzzler is that 28 percent of those surveyed think Dubya is doing a great job, i.e., 65 million Americans. So 21 million Americans (65 million minus 44 million) think the United States is on the wrong track but Dubya does a great job. The ship is heading in the wrong direction, but the captain is a heckuva helmsman.

In fairness, the poll was taken before the BLS released the news that in the first three months of 2008 the U.S. economy had shed 232,000 jobs, which includes not only a job loss of 80,000 in March - the largest monthly decline in five years - but also major upward revisions of job losses in the previous two months. The last time we had three consecutive months of job loss was in the second quarter of 2003. If we need 100,000 new jobs a month to keep pace with population growth, the economy has a cumulative shortfall of more than half a million jobs so far this year. The unemployment data were also ominous, with the unemployment rate resuming its upward climb, rising to 5.1 percent from 4.8 percent in February.

 
 
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CAPTAINSKIPPY
05:18 PM on 04/06/2008
The good news: some of those who voted for the Decider both times now believe W is a crappy pResident, and wish they had not voted for him. In that sense, W may be the "Education" President.
02:21 PM on 04/06/2008
There are some breakouts of the current polling. For example, looking at PollingReport.com (http://tinyurl.com/6g9mgr), the latest CBS News/New York Times Poll, which shows overall Bush approval at 19%, breaks that down into 7% of Democrats, 28% of Independents, and 60% of Republicans approving President Bush's job performance; so the core of the President's support seems to be a majority of Republican voters.

The same poll (results at http://tinyurl.com/qh3fg) show only 4% believe things are going better today than they were 5 years ago. No published breakouts on that number.
08:32 AM on 04/06/2008
recipients of wingnut welfare thats who. every paid blogger. every paid polster. every dirty contractor. thats who. wingnut welfare queens one and all. :)
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11:39 AM on 04/06/2008
generalizing it as its the "welfare queen" is exactly the kind of intellect that got us into this in the first place.

Sorry you will not get rich by voting Republican.
Sorry Corporate tax cuts do not help the middle class.
Sorry borrowing money for tax cuts is unAmerican.
Sorry trickle down economics have failed,......twice.
01:03 AM on 04/06/2008
They are the ones you see leaving the Federal Reserve Bank with their hats over their faces, their heads down, their pockets full running to a waiting limousine. This 19% are not my neighbors and probably are not the neighbors of most of the bloggers in HP. They are not our friends and probably don't have any friends you or I would know.

These 19% are people whom the Treasury Secretary Paulson wants to allow to monitor themselves even though it is obvious they are not capable of doing so with integrity or within the bounds of the few remaining laws that are left after deregulation that took place under Clinton. (ouch! - did I say that?)

These 19% are people who do a Lewinski to presidents. (No I did not say that either!) The question I have is do the presidents keep the stained suits?
12:43 AM on 04/06/2008
I'll tell you who we are. We are the people who know when we're being sold a bill pf g0oods. And the bill of goods people like you are selling reeks of selective partisan claptrap.
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12:42 AM on 04/06/2008
I think I heard one of the 19% on talk radio Friday. He believed McCain is a liberal and insisted that electing a Democrat would "ruin the economy". I was suprised he could manage to dial his phone.
12:23 AM on 04/06/2008
Who are these people who believe in Bush direction, leadership, and that the country is going in the right direction? An interesting thought, but there is even a more intriquing question. Who are these people that when being polled say McCain will win the Presidency, following the Bush policies. Do they call the asylums when they do those polls?
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11:44 PM on 04/05/2008
hmmmm guess what: I was the 19% that would say USA is on the Right Track because I understand "shit happens" and I'm not going to let the media make my life miserable. I'm still go out to eat, I'm still go shopping, I'm still buy a car in the next few weeks, Oh a gas guzzling SUV or pick up to make you happy because I like to spend weekends in the mountains, the girlfriend and I still might buy a house this summer (if we can find time) because they are getting dirt cheep and we have the 10% (this is the Boston Area mind you).

Keep spooking the American public in to rescission. Yes the lines are still long at the Olive Garden or Cheesecake Factory but Auto Dealers are having crack head sales on autos, Blue Ray DVD players and Flat Screens are being discounted at Best Buy, I got a great deal on my new PDA phone so please keep going.

So what there is a rescission coming, who said I had to participate?
01:14 AM on 04/06/2008
The fact that your reasoning for the country being on the right track is completely based around the idea that you can still go out to eat, shop, purchase a car and property is so completely shallow and consumerist that it literally frightens me to think that this is a possible existence for 19% of the population to determine the track of the country. Dirt cheap pricing for crap that doesn't matter does not equate with our country moving in a positive direction and neither does denial. For the time being it might be true that you have gone largely unaffected by events in our country and in fact you may even benefit from that but I cannot see how such a narrow selfish perspective on reality could in any way mean that our country is being run properly. If future events force you to reevaluate this position I hope you don't intend to solve it in the same manner that you do now. If everyone else thought like this we would most certainly be a in a helluva lot worse situation by now. (And this person will be voting in November?)
12:39 PM on 04/06/2008
You don't have to participate, as long as you stay behind your security perimeter.
11:17 PM on 04/05/2008
It'd be nice to think that the 81% of respondants to that poll were wanting to pull the country in the same path, but I would hazard a guess a goodly number of that 81% actually want to see the country regress into the 19th century, that they're dissatisfied that we're not conservative enough.

Never, never, never give the American public too much credit for being perceptive. If they were perceptive, McCain wouldn't be tied in the polls vs. either Obama or HRC.

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11:06 PM on 04/05/2008
19percent? That would be the states of Wyoming, Montana, and Idaho, along with eastern Washington. Okay, that's not fair. I know a couple of people in Idaho who aren't Bushites.
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12:07 AM on 04/06/2008
Actually it is a trick of the bamboozelers to assume that the Bush approval rating is as high as 19%. The guy has mucked up every last thing he has touched. Remember this is the guy who inherited a huge surplus. has spent that surplus plus billions more, who has gotten the US into this illegal war that seems to be lasting as far as the eyes can see, who has broken every rule that protected individuals from an intrusive government and involved us in a war that never ends. Now, employment figures are in the dumps, his cronies have allowed financial institutions to rob our country and loan on the flimsiest credit worthiness. We have a depression just around the corner and he has ruined the Republican brand for a life time. What a guy. And he is absolutely oblivious to his shortcomings. God help us if we ever elect another Republican like him.
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10:24 PM on 04/05/2008
Who are they?

BUSHCO, INC, of course.

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09:54 PM on 04/05/2008
I don't see where there's any mystery. Bush himself pointed out years ago who these people are. He said they were his base--the ones who think the country is headed in the right direction are the Haves and the Have Mores. Throw in the ones who are just one more shaky financial scam or sleazy deal away from being Haves and you have your 19%.
01:03 AM on 04/06/2008
yeah, see TheJibreelaMonsters' post above. No empathy, just greed and self-interest, their flatscreen tv is more important than medicine, food or shelter for the hundreds of thousands losing/lost what they had already.
09:49 PM on 04/05/2008
these 19% are the ones who set our nation's course -- look at how the leading democrats voted for war against iraq: americans generally don't care that the war has caused more than a million extra iraqis to die -- look at how the leading democrats cheered when israel went to war against lebanon & carpeted that country with american-made cluster bombs that are still exploding & killing or maiming innocent lebanese -- watch the leading democrats cheer when bush & cheney launch a war against iran -- all these wars have been & will keep pushing our nation deeper into the abyss as china & russia delight in our plight
09:46 PM on 04/05/2008
You're doin' a heck of a job, Bushie.

You'll all see. History is going to vindicate our visionary commander-in-chief. He's so smart, he looks stupid. You'll see. You'll all see!!
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09:43 PM on 04/05/2008
It didn't say they weren't institutionalized!