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2010 Poll: Egyptians Dislike Obama, See U.S./Israel as "Threats," Want Clergy More Political

Posted: 02/ 3/11 01:08 PM ET

The Egyptian people aren't thinking about the U.S. as they take to the streets against the rule of Hosni Mubarak, but they will certainly judge how we have dealt with their insurrection. Based on our polling done there last summer, we do know that Egyptians are disappointed with President Barack Obama and have a decidedly negative view of U.S. policy in the Middle East.

The Obama Administration has been cautious, urging Mubarak to enact reforms and make way for a democratic transition from his 30-year rule, and using the billions in aid we give Egypt as leverage. We don't know exactly what is being said through diplomatic channels, especially with the Egyptian military, which relies on our funding and whose officers have been trained at U.S. military colleges. The protestors would welcome more overt and public support from the U.S., but given what we know about their opinions of us, they were not counting on it.

While the data I'm reporting here may portray alarmingly hostile attitudes toward the U.S., my experience with the region (I have been to Egypt eight times and we have done extensive polling in the Middle East for more than 10 years) makes me feel we can improve our standing with Egyptians and be a seen allies in a new, more democratic nation. I recall a conversation three years ago with a diplomat from a Middle Eastern nation who said of Arabs that "we love America. It's the U.S. we have a problem with."

The data is from a July 2010 poll Zogby International conducted for the University of Maryland.

On the U.S.: 85% had an unfavorable attitude toward the U.S., 87% had no confidence in the U.S., 92% named the U.S. as one of two nations that are the greatest threat to them, only 4% said if they had to live in another country they would choose the U.S. and 52% have an unfavorable opinion of the American people.

On Barack Obama: 61% were hopeful when Obama took office, 61% said he had not met the expectations set in his 2009 speech in Cairo, 60% were discouraged by his Middle East policies and 54% had a negative view of him.

On Israel and Palestinians: 69% said that of all Obama policies they were most disappointed toward Israel and Palestine; 90% named Israel as one of two nations that are the greatest threat to them and Egyptians were split as to whether there would ever be lasting peace between Israel and Palestinians.

On the role of clergy in government: 65% agreed with a statement that "clergy must play a greater role in our political system."

On Iran: 86% say Iran has a right to pursue its nuclear program, 56% agree Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons and 79% say it would be positive if Iran acquired nuclear arms.

On Iraq: 57% said the U.S. role in Iraq was the issue most central issue in their assessment of Obama administration Middle East policy and 75% said the Iraqi people were worse off due to the war.

Our standing with Egyptians was better after the 9/11 attacks, but worsened after Iraq War, and it hit bottom after revelations about U.S. military behavior at the Abu Ghraib prison. Iraq will hopefully recede as an issue, but our support of Israel will remain very unpopular with Egyptians. Opinion of the U.S. is bound to worsen if the people's insurrection against the Mubarak government turns out badly for them.

If they succeed, it is unlikely a new Egyptian government and the military (the nation's most stable and enduring institution) will reject continued U.S. aid. We would have a great opportunity to restore Egyptian confidence in the U.S. Let's hope that will be the outcome.

 
The Egyptian people aren't thinking about the U.S. as they take to the streets against the rule of Hosni Mubarak, but they will certainly judge how we have dealt with their insurrection. Based on our ...
The Egyptian people aren't thinking about the U.S. as they take to the streets against the rule of Hosni Mubarak, but they will certainly judge how we have dealt with their insurrection. Based on our ...
 
 
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02:55 PM on 02/04/2011
Does anyone blame them? Most Americans have a dim view of Muslims and AIPAC owns our government, therefore, Israel can do it's damage and not be held accountable by anyone. But, things are changing. Some in the U.S. are beginning to question our support of Israel. The media has begun to discuss our ties to Israel without the usual blubbering about our common interests.

Hooray for the Egyptian people....I wish them well.
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Campari with a twist...
11:42 AM on 02/04/2011
A few weeks ago the MSM stated Isreal's disappointment, now you state Egypt's disappointment. Sounds like a good thing to me, if both were pleased with whatever our Government was doing "for them" it would only represent misrepresentation by our leadership. As long as we are willing to buy co-operation throughout the Middle East we will never see those leaders working for their people to bring their countries into the 21st Century.
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10:32 AM on 02/04/2011
The problem with Egyptian and US relations is the GOP will do everything in their power to damage relations to try to gain political points against Obama. Obama will have to make a choice, support Egypt and take the political heat from the GOP, accusations of Obama orchestrating a socialist overthrow of the Reaganesque Mubarak to accusations that Obama is on the side of militant right wing Muslim extremists. The time for the US to improve relations for Egypt is now, but it will require leadership from Obama, so I suppose that relations will only get worse since FOX News and Rush Limbaugh continue to run the US government.
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fairwayhill
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08:45 AM on 02/04/2011
Egyptians are right. Obama deluded the Egyptians. Many promises of hope, any in the end nothing. All Obama's policies have been a photocopy of W. Bush against Palestine and in support of the US supported dictator Mubarak. It is time for change, and hopefully the Muslim Brotherhood will take over that Egyptian government.
11:42 AM on 02/04/2011
Huh? What a great idea.
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Campari with a twist...
11:52 AM on 02/04/2011
Your comment, "Obama deluded the Egyptians", is just another example of people in this country who think that it is our purpose to oversee the world. One point you miss, is the fact that the Egyptians do not want American intervention, as a matter of fact, Obama has threatened, advised and pushed Mubarak to the point that concessions Mubarak never meant to make have been made. Mubarak since the assassination of Sadat was never our choice, but you get what you get in the Middle East..the people did not choose..we did not choose. We paid for peace, we paid for stability, we hoped for responsible leadership..that didn't happen.
06:50 AM on 02/04/2011
Our apologists for Israel make a big deal of Egyptian resentment toward the biased treatment of the Palestinians by the US, and ignore the systematic repression of Palestinian rights and theft of Palestinian property by Israel in violation of international law. They also appear to ignore the fact that the current unrest in Egypt was brought about by the repressive policies of the regime together with the example of Tunisia. The desire to overthrow the government is rooted in the poverty, inequity and lack of opportunity that has characterized the Mubarak regime, a regime that has been strongly supported by the US and Israel. But this is ignored by the apologists for Israeli aggression: they seem to see everything in terms of a world conspiracy against Israel and Judaism.

The careful reader will notice that the poll reported by Mr. Zogby was concerned with foreign policy issues as opposed to domestic ones. Thus to read into it that the cause of the uprising has to do with Israel or the US is unwarranted. What is warranted, though, is concern that we and our Israeli friends will be again called to account for our support of a dictator.
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06:44 AM on 02/04/2011
Sounds like Egypt's honeymoon with Obama ended as quickly as ours did.
06:31 AM on 02/04/2011
Israel-haters and anti-Semites remind me of the people infected with the 'rage' virus in "Twenty-Eight Days Later." The sheer unadulterated hatred, fury, and unreasoning anger, the vicious attacks...it's frightening. I really hope that this isn't what comes to power in the new Egypt. If so, then we are all faced with a nightmare.
07:42 AM on 02/04/2011
http://pew­global.org­/files/pdf­/262.pdf

95% of egyptians hold a negative opinion of jews

2% hold a positive view.
12:00 PM on 02/04/2011
The only countries in the survey with single digit negative views were the US and Britain. Zionists conclude that this shows the necessity of maintaining Israel. Others say that Israeli policies cause the situation. There seems to be no common ground.
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02:09 PM on 02/04/2011
I love your posts Zenju2... they are spot on and always well written.
06:27 AM on 02/04/2011
Amazing. In a nation faced with genuine problems such as gross overpopulation and strained resources, poverty, lack of opportunity, lack of freedoms of speech and press and assembly, environmental degradation and more...the Islamists and some others still feel that Egypt's interests would be well-served by scrapping the peace treaty with Israel and withdrawing recognition of their neighbour and engaging in hostility. What an astounding sense of priorities, what phenomenally rational thinking! I hope for democracy in Egypt AND the values that make genuine democracy possible. Unfortunately, it's all teetering right now, and who knows what will happen?
hfpf
Wake up World.
04:06 AM on 02/04/2011
79% say it would be positive if Iran acquired nuclear arms.

It would positively be the end of humanity as we know it.
07:00 AM on 02/04/2011
Not really. No more than Israel having dozens of nukes.
Are you saying it is ok for Israel to have nuclear weapons and not be party to the NPT, but it is not ok for Iran to?
I must admit, I am having great difficulty understanding the logic behind this.
07:43 AM on 02/04/2011
That's one thing that drives me nuts. Oh sure, America can have thousands of nukes and our allies can have tons of nukes, but hey, if you're not allied with America, you're an automatic bad guys and you'll want to use your nukes on everyone!

But wait, America, why are you allowed to have nukes? Isn't it in my best interest to have nukes too?

Well we defend democracy and love liberty.

So why did you install all those dictators in the mideast and south america....?
hfpf
Wake up World.
03:59 PM on 02/04/2011
How many times have you heard Israel announce on the world stage that Iran, or any other country for that matter must be eradicated? The President of Iran, refers to the elimination of Israel regularly. He personally wants to usher in the age of the Mahdi. The current Iranian regime is dangerous, and if they get their hands on a nuke, they will hold the world hostage.
03:09 AM on 02/04/2011
So you, Mr. Zogby, as a pollster, report these disturbing polling results, and then tell us in totally judgmental and non-scientific fashion that these results could be reversed if only the U.S. cleans up its act. This is strictly your personal opinion.
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02:45 AM on 02/04/2011
Sounds like they are pretty rational and have figured out what we have been doing and why.
02:39 AM on 02/04/2011
It is apparent that the Israeli tail has been wagging the US dog for quite some time, especially if one goes outside US official and corporate media for news.
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02:27 AM on 02/04/2011
If someone tells you that they hate you because of what you are (1), there's nothing you can do about that.  The only reasonable thing to do at that point is to ignore them and move on.  Fighting fire with fire only ends up with everyone charred.  Better to focus on where there's a positive impact:  http://www.theotheriraq.com/.  A great people moving forward without rancor, what a refreshing change.

(1) "52% have an unfavorable opinion of the American people"
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Campari with a twist...
12:11 PM on 02/04/2011
I wonder what the results would be if the question were reversed... blahblah % of American people have an unfavorable opinion of the people of the Middle East....polls are answered mostly by people who have no knowledge of the question. The question should be asked only of those who have ever met an American/Egyptian.
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chuck becker
12:45 PM on 02/04/2011
I do agree with much of what you wrote.  What happened to "Not Sure" or "Don't Know"?  I found the 52% number quite a clear statement.  As for Americans' opinion of, I don't even know the right term since we're referring to a wide variety of ethnic and possibly even racial (depending on definitions?) and cultural and religious groups here, so shall I refer to "North African, MidEastern, SE Asian population, most of whom are Muslim, but some of whom are western or coptic Christian, and a few of whom are Jewish, and a very small number of whom are Zoroastrian"?

I don't think (my guess) that Americans would show a 52% negative toward however a person would define that group of human beings.
02:10 AM on 02/04/2011
It seems you're barely able to admit in passing that Egyptian opinion of OUR country actually hit bottom during the GWB administration, a couple years after the Iraq occupation when the truth about torture at Abu Ghraib prison was revealed. Yet you seem to have no problem repeatedly concluding the polls show it's been President Obama that somehow most let Egyptians down and caused them to dislike us. Perhaps you could enlighten us then how many times GWB made efforts to stop the settlement building in Palestinian occupied territories while in office, or when he ever tried for a 'two-state' solution?

Though I've agreed with some of your conclusions at times in the past, one might suggest somebody's lenses now appear a trifle shaded with favoritism.
01:57 AM on 02/04/2011
If Egyptians want to hate us, let them go ahead and hate us.

There's no pleasing these people. They will hate us on principle, anyway.
02:25 AM on 02/04/2011
Yeah. I mean all we did was keep their brutal dictator in power for thirty years. What have they got to be angry about?
02:39 AM on 02/04/2011
No one has stopped Egyptians from enacting a revolution.

Furthermore, Obama was not in office for the past 30 years. Mubarak is not his fault. Frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of the entire world expecting Obama to serve as their President. Laying the blame on Obama for the world's woes. Nearly every nation on this planet has a history of appalling and even brutal political maneuvering--including Egypt. Enough already.
hfpf
Wake up World.
03:45 AM on 02/04/2011
That brutal dictator saw to it that his people did not fight a war in 30 years. The powers that want to take over have already called for war with Israel, and a revocation of a 30 year peace. War will so improve the life of the Egyptians, don't you think? Let's see...exactly how many wars did Egypt win against Israel? Oh that's right ...ZERO!