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Jon Soltz

Posted: June 22, 2010 12:29 PM

McChrystal Must Resign - or Be Fired

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The open disdain and personal ridicule of the President and his advisors by General Stanley McChrystal and his subordinates in the new issue of Rolling Stone leaves only two acceptable options: Either General McChrystal resigns or is fired.

If he has any honor, he'll step down.

I know something about this. In 2006, I worked with two Generals, appearing in national television ads critical of President Bush and his strategy in Iraq. Or, should I say, retired Generals. Major Generals Paul D. Eaton and John Batiste each made the painful decision to leave the military they loved so they could speak out. To that point, they had held their tongues.

Why?

Because the order and efficacy of our Armed Forces falls apart without respect for the chain of command. Whether it's a grunt respecting his company commander, or a General respecting the Commander in Chief, every single thing is predicated on the integrity of the chain of command. As soon as someone -- especially someone as high up as General McChrystal -- violates that respect, every single person under him begins to not only question the orders they've been given from above, but is given the signal that it's OK to openly disagree or mock his or her superior.

And violate that respect General McChystal and his subordinates have. Among other things, the Rolling Stone story reports first-hand that:

  • McChrystal was disappointed with his first meeting with the President, and that he feels the President is uncomfortable and intimidated with military brass.
  • McChrystal's aid calls National Security Advisor James Jones a "clown."
  • Another aide says of envoy Richard Holbrooke, "The Boss [McChrystal] says he's like a wounded animal. Holbrooke keeps hearing rumors that he's going to get fired, so that makes him dangerous."
  • Bolstering that, McChrystal himself, receiving an email from Holbrooke says, "Oh, not another e-mail from Holbrooke. I don't even want to read it."
  • On Vice President Biden, who disagreed with the General's strategy in Afghanistan, McChrystal says while laughing, "Are you asking me about Vice President Biden? Who's that?"
  • An aide, mirroring his boss, adds, "Biden? Did you say Bite me?"

Anyone of lower rank would be immediately dismissed if he or she said of their superiors what General McChrystal said, or what he allowed members of his team to say.

This, of course, isn't the first time that the General has been in trouble. Following a very public campaign for his preferred strategy in Afghanistan, which included a 60 Minutes interview that challenged the President, McChrystal landed in some hot water with the President, and was told to cool it. Frankly, McChrystal got off easy.

When General Eric Shinseki testified to Congress about his opinion on the force levels needed to invade Iraq, countering the strategy laid out by President Bush and Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he was forced into retirement. Shinseki, unlike McChrystal, was asked his opinion, under oath, in front of Congress. There's a difference between that professional conversation, and personal attacks on your superiors. Shinseki didn't lead a public campaign to air his views, either. At any rate, McChrystal was given a second shot, where Shinseki was not.

Whether he continued his insubordination purposely, or stupidly and unintentionally, isn't an issue. The issue, here, is that it happened. Again.

I cannot fault McChrystal for believing in his strategy. That's what you want out of a General - someone who gives the President strong advice, and believes what he says. But what cannot be allowed to stand is when he believes in his strategy more than the command structure and order of the Armed Forces, and his duty to uphold it.

It's clear, now, that General McChrystal is unable or unwilling to work within the chain of command, and set an example for all those who serve under him. That is why I say, if he has any honor, he'll offer up his resignation. And, if he doesn't, the President must fire him.

 

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twitch1956
01:23 PM on 06/23/2010
General McChrystal just resigned and his resignation has been accepted. He has been relieved of his command.

So what else should we talk about now.

by the way. I served. Bush deserted.
Sergeant
Dress Right
01:08 PM on 06/23/2010
I think you are right. The lack of respect for this White House is endemic. He should resign.

He is an eagle among turkeys.
12:48 PM on 06/23/2010
And you think these offensive offenses are "resignable" offenses? Let me ask you this question: "would you allow an employee of yours or your company to trash everyone who they report to?, would you allow your staff to develop a culture of ridiculing all of their superiors in a Military Hierarchy where the lack of respect results in the loss of lives?, and would you allow such a leader [sic] to stay in command or to resign and keep the pension his misconduct should disqualify him from receiving?

You would of course say "NO WAY"! That's how it should be with this Bozo! Reduce his rank to PFC and send him on patrol. Then we will see what he is really made of. I'd bet he resigns rather than fights! I also bet all his pampered 'yes' men do the same. Gutless wonders!
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12:44 PM on 06/23/2010
resignation is the only way out at this point.
11:59 AM on 06/23/2010
Yeah, lets replace this good general with an Obama "yes-man" because the President has thin skin. Get over it, the comments were not that bad. Also, if everyone under his command is loyal, why not stick with him? I guess when you elect a community organizer with no executive experience, this is what you get.
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twitch1956
01:05 PM on 06/23/2010
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the above makes as much sense as you do. Go kiss Sarah's a$$.

By the way, Sarah thinks you guys are idiots for buying her bull$hit. She laughs at you all the way to the bank.
01:10 PM on 06/23/2010
Not a Sarah fan at all. She was and is unqualified. I thought that McCain should have gone with Kay Bailey.
Sergeant
Dress Right
01:13 PM on 06/23/2010
It hurts, I know, but the Commander in Chief has less military experience than the lowest ranking private in the General's Army. He has no military experience, no business experience, no executive governmental experience and no foreign policy experience. He is an empty suit waiting for his turn at the well to be over.

And it will be over in 2012. No democratic president has been reelected since Roosevelt except Bill Clinton and he reduced spending, balanced the budget and eliminated the welfare program as we knew it.
Giftedroot
A forest from one root.
01:25 PM on 06/23/2010
I don't know what fantasyland some people are living in, but it's never permissible in a military structure to let subordinates disparage superiors publicly...especially not in open media and definitely not the CIC or civilian officials of the administration.

I don't know if some people think that General McChrystal would allow his subordinates to bad-mouth him or his staff in an open article, but [President] Obama's skin should be paper thin where it comes to something like this.
10:12 AM on 06/23/2010
Here's the real problem. How many people at the White House are trying to micro- manage his job?
McChrystal was put into place to do complete a horrible task; lead our countrys' efforts at war. He has done just that, and who else will? Replacing him with a head nodder will not end our conflict.
While it's obvious he needs a refresher course on etiquette and diplomacy, he wasn't sent to Afghanistan to make pretty comments. War isn't pretty. War isn't about appeasing political dissenters. McChrystal's candor can be restrained; the rapport he has established with his troops cannot be underestimated. I trust in President Obam's judgement.
And let that smug reporter make daily updates form the war zone's hot spots. He'll soon learn to disparage his his own circle of admirers instead of our countrys' finest while they represent us doing an incredibly brave and daunting task.
It was unrealistic and coarse to berate the loss of civilian lives as part of his critique. Every single war, each and every conflict has loss of life. McChrystal didn't invent that. He's not asking for that. And his efforts are implemented with the full consent of the White House. To slip in a dig at the general demoralizes the entire rank and file. Their efforts must not be belittled.
You know better, Jon.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
09:13 AM on 06/23/2010
You have made a good case for his court martial and he should have one.
09:12 AM on 06/23/2010
Put McChrystal out now. He is an example of what is wrong with the "new Army". And beware of moving up GENERAL Martin Dempsey - TRADOC - Army Recruiters under his Command are still committing suicide.
12:22 PM on 06/23/2010
HOOOOAAAHH!!!

Gen Dempsey is the Best!
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aghostinthemachine
09:05 AM on 06/23/2010
Yes, McChrystal knew what he was doing. He's not dumb. He should resign.
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aghostinthemachine
09:01 AM on 06/23/2010
A partial answer to a very difficult question: how do we win in Afghanistan? I believe is through the warlords, bribery and, Machavellian politics. This is a country with no infrastructure, or very little, at least. So no targets to take out. You win the "people" through education and graft, bribe the warlords, and pick and choose an Afghan leader, who won't stab you in the back, This is a long term solution, there are no quick fixes in Afghan. The country gets rebuilt everytime an invader arrives. A foot note, France is one of the only western country's that is liked by the Afghan's. Why? Because they negotiate through diplomacy not through the barrel of a gun. When you hear of kidnappings and murder in Afghan, its not the French. Just a thought.
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Euterpe360
I'm just a little bi-partisan
08:47 AM on 06/23/2010
I agree fully that there is not place for this sort of behavior. Unfortunately, another change in the overall strategy in Afghanistan will probably cripple any remaining chance of legitimate success and cannot tolerate that at this moment. Finish the war and then ditch him.
08:44 AM on 06/23/2010
Hold your tongue if dissent is on the tip? The military should look into replacing all commanders and soldiers with Predators / Reapers. Then it's sayoonara, beepa beepas, to inconvenient Humanity.
07:27 AM on 06/23/2010
Fine, fire this guy and appoint someone else to fill his spot. Then what?? Obama could tell the new General that all he is giving him from this point forward is a box of rocks and sticks to fight in Afghanistan, and the new General would say "That's disappointing sir, but we'll win it for you! We don't even need the sticks"!! This is the perfect time to get us out of thid tragic nightmare, and firing McChrystal is not going to speed our withdrawal up. Generals aren't supposed to covet war, they're supposed to give their commanders honest advice on whether they can be won
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Pleneras
07:44 AM on 06/23/2010
You never been in the military right? If you did you would not have said the things you did because we are not fighting a country's government and people. There is a different strategy than the one Bush had which was 8 years of wandering in the rocks. Obama has to at least exit right and that is their plan, exit, not win because you cannot win a war with someone your not fighting. Clusters of terrorists groups were the problem there and Pakistani boarder. After 8 years of wandering he needs the right leaders who will implement the correct exit strategy. There is no winning in Afghanistan and IRAQ WAS AN INVASION OF AN INNOCENT NATION WHICH MADE THINGS WORST. What honest advice? Personal slapdown? His head is too big like most Generals with a big head.
08:48 AM on 06/23/2010
And you've been in the Red Zones in Iraq and Afghanistan during wartime?

What's the strategy: Trip up and quiet down? Loose lips sink ships that would drown at dock.
12:23 PM on 06/23/2010
EXCELLENT POINT!
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aznurse
07:12 AM on 06/23/2010
the general wants to be a Politician. or a fox news commentor.
demote and fire him. or demote and give him an office someplace.
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lmpub
07:46 AM on 06/23/2010
I'm sure that is right and in the end that's fine: step down, take off the uniform and get into the political arena. That is why we have elections and not coups in this country. I have no doubt that we will see a book, fancy book tour and interviews and a star-studded role at the 2012 GOP convention in his future. Our Constitution is clear: an elected civilian President is Commander-in-Chief. McChrystal is supposed to be a very disciplined man. This interview seems to be so reckless that it was probably intentional. Whatever the motive, it also shows incredibly poor judgment, and in the end, that will be his likely downfall. See you soon on a Fox station near you...You betcha!
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thinkingwomanmillstone
My life is microbiodegradable.
08:19 AM on 06/23/2010
Reckless and insubordinate. Demote him several ranks.
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
06:49 AM on 06/23/2010
This dispute is not about policy though. Both McCrystal and Obama want the same thing--a contineud war in Afghanistan and for a long time to come. Both should resign!
07:32 AM on 06/23/2010
That's bull and you know it! President Obama, like the rest of the country want this nonsense to end! McChrystal doesn't want the war to end until he feels it should end! This dispute is about policy and disrespect for the President! I hope he fires his a$$, but he probably won't. He'll give the clown another chance to screw him!
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Pleneras
07:53 AM on 06/23/2010
Well said.