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Paying for Your Trip as an Incidental Health Traveler

Posted: 12/16/11 09:08 AM ET

On a recent business trip to SE Asia and all too aware of my impending sixtieth birthday next January, I reserved an extra day in Bangkok for some routine medical tests and procedures. The story will likely be familiar to you: my eyesight ain't what it used to be, I can barely hear my dinner companions in restaurants, and it was once again time for that dreaded colonoscopy. So I booked a vision exam, a comprehensive auditory test, and the endoscopic-style procedure.

I carry a health insurance plan with a $10,000 deductible. These high-deductible policies are often called "catastrophic," because they exclude run-of-the mill illnesses and mishaps while providing the healthcare consumer with coverage for more expensive conditions and treatments that can otherwise wreak havoc on your wallet and entire family.

I call them "common-sense" plans, particularly when coupled with creative price-shopping on medical procedures. My policy saves our family $560/month in premiums compared to a typical plan offering a $500 deductible. We then put aside the differential in a health savings account, holding it as reserve for marginal healthcare costs that may come our way.

A $560/month savings translates to $6,720/year, or nearly $70,000 over a ten-year period. Compounded annually at 4%, this becomes nearly $100,000 in savings over ten years and nearly a quarter-million over 20 years. That's practically a retirement plan for many of us!

Before heading abroad, I called for local quotes on a hearing test. Duke Medical Center in the next town wanted an astounding $1,625 for an auditory exam and specialist consultation. My lowest quote for a clinical test and consult within 50 miles was just under $1,000.

On to the colonoscopy. After much back-and-forth trying to obtain estimates in the US, I finally learned that the least-expensive procedure within 50 miles was $3,200, not counting anesthesia or costs for any additional requirements -- and the finance people at the clinics wouldn't even give me a quote for additional work. Wait, finance department? Why am I talking to accountants? Why isn't this a customer service exchange? Oh, that's right, I'm in the US, where every single aspect of healthcare is upside down. But don't get me started...

The bottom line: I opted to get checked out while abroad, I was in and out of Bangkok's five-star Bumrungrad International Hospital in just under five hours, and I saved a total of $5,400. I had dinner that night with friends and sprang for the meal with a wallet that felt a good deal fatter for my healthcare savings.

While in SE Asia, I could have had my pick of any of more than 40 US-accredited hospitals in Singapore, Malaysia, or Thailand. Twenty of those facilities have a full International Patient Services Department, with English spoken throughout, where a cost quote can be easily obtained for a wide array of tests and medical procedures.

Are your own travels taking you closer to home? Prices for healthcare in destinations such as Mexico, Costa Rica, or the Bahamas are a little higher than in Thailand, but still offer substantial savings over costs in your backyard.

Even if you don't care to go with the strategy of a high-deductible health plan, you may want to consider adding a day or two to a business or leisure trip abroad for testing and other routine medical procedures -- MRIs, CT scans, light dental work, an annual physical, health screening, and a host of other choices.

Sooner or later you'll need to take time off for routine health maintenance and examination -- why not pay for your trip with savings on the incidental medical visit? With more than 400 American-accredited hospitals and clinics now offering Western-style medical treatment in 47 countries around the world, it's a bit of a no-brainer to check out your medical tourism options. That's certainly a great alternative to complaining about the astronomical costs of care here in the US.

 

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04:20 AM on 01/06/2012
I agree with you about checking into healthcare options abroad. I had my daughter in a hospital in Bangkok, and it was wonderful and low-priced experience. I have friends that have done eye surgery, laser hair removal, and major dental work in Bangkok, as well. All of them were satisfied and paid much less than they would have in the United States. Thailand makes it easy to enter the country and receive short-term or long-term treatments. If you go to Thailand as a tourist and decide to stay for medical treatment, then an immigration lawyer in Thailand or a representative from a hospital can help you get a medical tourist visa. I haven’t used healthcare services in the US for nearly five because I’ve been so satisfied with the medical treatment in Thailand and elsewhere abroad. It’s definitely worth looking into, especially if you are already on vacation.
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08:40 AM on 12/19/2011
Vanguard currently has a documentary running "Under the Knife Abroad" Great documentary. This also has been covered on NPR. Their medical tourism companies. In this country they have taken away the private pay option because medical & insurance company's have inflated the prices so high. These foreign hospital's have an "A la Carte" approach which could bring down the price of health care o.k you want a hip operation then that's what you get. You twisted your ankle lets get an xray Radioligist can tell you if its broken, why go to your PCP the XR then have the Radiologist read it ? I am a nurse I like my job, but I really I see the flaws in our health care system everyday. I don't believe we have a first world health care system.
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psnyder325
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07:34 PM on 12/18/2011
A goodly part of the problem with American medicine is the "for profit" nature of it. Like everything else in America, American medicine is not about the patient, but about the almighty dollar. Our country WORSHIPS money and EVERYTHING winds up as a financial decision...not a medical one or customer service one. This country is disgusting in its emphasis on money, money, money. It is what runs both political parties and virtually everything else in this very sick nation of ours.
08:13 AM on 12/19/2011
The money is not the problem since it's only a medium of exchange. In other countries too, medical facilities, doctors and nurses are working for a profit. (After all, let's be honest, profit is, what everyone of us expects when investing - whether it's stocks, our 401k or some other fund.)
One of the major problems in the US healthcare system is INTRANSPARENCY, caused by several layers with varying interest (government, insurance, etc.) that have been put between doctor and patient.
To a great extent the system is even cheating itself. How else would you explain that an ER doctor has to charge 1.000 USD for 30 minutes, doing this only because she knows that she will only be able to actually recover 20% of it.
Anyone of use can help to change the system by "voting with our feet", that means actually using global healthcare options and going abroad for medical and cosmetic treatments.

Dr. Thomas H Treutler
http://www.FlyClinic.com
http://www.FlyClinic.co
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08:48 AM on 12/19/2011
Agree I recently had an MRI I paid a partial payment I asked can I have the receipt for the balance due? Ohh no we don't know the final price you'll get the bill in the mail. How on Gods Green Earth in the USA can a company do that? What company can do that in this country? It was a straight up MRI I purchase "A" test and pay "B" price. So when politicians rant about a free market call BS. The strangest thing is they called me up to tell me I would have to pay my deductable and it would be a $178.00 I paid $137.00. Give us a price list just like a menu.
11:42 AM on 12/18/2011
I'd like to be able to contact you about this story for professional reasons, and this article gives no contact information and I can find none on your profile. Im an american, american trained md, and I want out of tis country and want to look for work in some of these institutions. How to find lists of them, etc. you provide no links, etc. honestly, the article doesn't really have the detail to allow someone to link up to their own research. substandard job
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psnyder325
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07:33 PM on 12/18/2011
Arlen Meyers, M.D., in Denver (his info is available on LinkedIn) runs these centers abroad. He could give you the information you're looking for.
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Josef Woodman
05:42 AM on 12/19/2011
International hospitals that serve the Western patient tend to like US-trained doctors. You can find a list of selected JCI hospitals on the Patients Beyond Borders site (search by "Destinations" or "Hospitals"). Or for a full listing, check out the official Joint Commission International site. You can reach me at info at patientsbeyondborders dot com. Good luck in your quest.
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MagicAnt
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08:50 PM on 12/17/2011
I had some routine dental work done in Thailand. Check-up, cleaning and fixing a chipped tooth. Cost me a grand total of $30. And for those questioning the quality - the service was better, facility nicer and equipment more advanced than any dentist I've been to in the US.

You obviously wouldn't book a trip with that kind of work in mind, but it's a great thing to include in your plans if you also want to visit one of the most beautiful countries in the world.
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06:25 PM on 12/17/2011
so right about insurance - only insure for events you cant afford unless you are a scammer (partly why its so much cheaper)

more trouble than its worth collecting on nickel & dime claims anyway
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06:16 PM on 12/17/2011
could also consider cuba - am told care is good there too
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06:11 PM on 12/17/2011
"I continue to be surprised by the number of Americans unaware of their global healthcare options"

I assumed common knowledge also - any hoo - what you didnt stress is it is huge business in bangkok

a major procedure is gender reassignations (nip and tuck in the trade), so do be clear about the procedure required b4 they put u under :)

Things dont always go to plan - so think about accommodation - they will happily charge $45+ for a semi western hotel - but do it right & u get a local style 1 room apartment for $200pm - anywhere on the skytrain should be fine & cabs & bike taxis are cheap - u dont need hot water - is already hot when come out of tap

US having a bad time from outsourcing, but w/ health - they had it coming
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JimNast
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12:17 PM on 12/16/2011
So in certain situations and with proper planning, the medical savings could save more than the cost of the trip.
01:25 PM on 12/16/2011
Definitely! Depending on complexity of the procedure and destination country the savings on TCOT (Total Cost of Treatment) can be between 30% and 80%.
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06:19 PM on 12/17/2011
you saw the numbers - methinks $1k would get to most parts of the globe & back from the us

see my other post about accomm. & hey u can go somwhere new as well.
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10:42 AM on 12/16/2011
Some employers' health insurance is sending employees and their dependents outside the country for surgery; e.g.:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/11/news/companies/health_care_medical_travel/index.htm
One way to cut health care costs? Outsource surgeries - Aug. 11, 2010

"NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Tina Follett and her husband Patrick are in Panama on a two-week all-expenses paid trip. But Tina isn't on vacation. She's there to get surgery..."

Dental work is much cheaper in Mexico:

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/07/smallbusiness/denticenter/index.htm
For cut-rate dental care, head to Mexico - Jul. 7, 2010
10:33 AM on 12/16/2011
Thanks for the article Josef. Going to buy your book today. I have had many similar experiences in terms of cost savings for first-rate medical and dental procedures in Mexico over the years. Currently I need oral surgery that would cost $3500 in US, and will cost about $700 in a first class facility in Mexico.

I anticipate there will be many poster ready to make silly jokes about kidnappings and be-headings and unsanitary conditions in places like Thailand and Mexico. Perhaps its best for them to keep their uninformed impressions so pricing stays low for people like us abroad?
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Josef Woodman
12:49 AM on 12/17/2011
Thanks for your comments! I confess after all these years in the business, I continue to be surprised by the number of Americans unaware of their global healthcare options for safe, affordable high-quality medical care. The good news is that prices are not likely to rise with popularity. Where in Mexico are you planning to travel for your dental procedure?
01:24 PM on 12/17/2011
I have owned a home in the beautiful colonial city of Merida, Yucatan for about 10 years. Dental tourism has been a cottage industry there for some time, but with the completion of the Star Medica facility a few years ago, healthcare tourism in general is now growing too. We live most of the year in Wrightsville Beach btw...and my son is a Junior at Chapel Hill...and my parents live in Governors Club. Will try to find your private email because this topic is of tremendous interest to me and I would like to discuss it further. You can also email me at sslgrowth "at sign" gmail dot com.
10:15 AM on 12/16/2011
Excellent article about Medical Tourism or Global Healthcare - showing readers that this is simply an option and should not be mandatory. The three fundamental pillars to improve the healthcare system are:
- transparency of information (price, services, quality, risks)
- freedom to choose (should be a fundamental right anyway!)
- responsible and ethical behavior of industry players - self control

Global Healthcare might well be one of the most important factors in turning the US healthcare system around and making it competitive and affordable again. Obviously, this is not for everyone and not all the players in this industry are what they promise to be. However, the idea transmitted by Josef in his article is: taking Global Healthcare as an option. Figure how much time we are spending on research before buying a car. How much time did you spend on research before your last medical procedure?
Patients should take control of their own healthcare, ask for transparent information regarding procedures, risks, quality of clinics and doctors, price and services included.
Savings can be between 30% and 80%, even including hotel and air travel. I invite you to compare some of the best doctors in South America with the service you receive in your home town. Don't see it as mandatory but rather an option. You can always say no!

Dr. Thomas H Treutler
http://www.flyclinic.com
http://www.flyclinic.co
09:55 AM on 12/16/2011
This works fine for the 1% who already do a lot of business travel paid for by someone else -- and for whom the savings are a luxury that pays for more luxury spending. For the rest of us, it has no relevance. (For me, a "catastrophic only" policy would cost more than my mortgage, and still leave me with a huge out of pocket cost. And no one funds my overseas travel except me.)
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07:00 AM on 12/17/2011
We live near several Amish communities. It is fairly common for them to head to Belize or Mexico

for needed medical care.

I'm hoping to have some cosmetic dental work done in the next few years and thinking about Belize.
alunsulen
Digging the liberal hatred!
11:17 PM on 12/17/2011
Your entire existence is paid for by someone else.