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Those Who Serve Abroad Should Be Able to Find Work at Home

Posted: 06/01/2012 11:33 pm

On May 7, 2012 the Robin Hood Foundation, the largest private funder of anti-poverty programs, sponsored an important gathering aboard the Intrepid Sea, Air and Space Museum in New York City. The highlight was an interview with Salvatore Giunta, veteran of the war in Afghanistan and Medal of Honor Recipient, conducted by Jon Stewart. Stewart asked whether veterans are hesitant to receive attention and help. Giunta responded, "The military is not an 'I' organization; it is a 'We' organization. The few times you hear someone in the military say 'I' it usually goes something to the tune of, 'I screwed up.' That's when 'I' is used, when you're taking personal accountability for your actions." Stewart, ever the wisecracker, commented, "It's so interesting, because many of the people (here) are in the financial industry, and it's the same ethos, in many regards..." As the audience laughed, Stewart added, "Maybe we should just hire you guys." More laughter and applause, as Giunta responded, "Absolutely."

This was the core metaphor for the day: What are the contributions veterans can make to employers, communities, and to our society as a whole? Why should our companies, communities and its institutions hire, embrace, understand and care for our veterans and their families?

Paul Rieckhoff, director of IAVA and one of the panelists, commented that this event should have happened 10 years ago. That's true, but gatherings like this challenge the fragmented, redundant, territorial and often dysfunctional system of veteran care in this country. In bringing together representatives from the military, the corporate arena, mental health, academia, the media, community-based non-profits and local and national government, the summit was a commendable effort to make real the "Joining Forces" ideal put forth by Michelle Obama and Dr. Jill Biden. The lesson is that in our interconnected world, all of us, individuals and organizations, public and private, can no longer be fixed on "I." We all have to learn to play well with others and collaborate substantively in the proverbial sandbox.

The lunch panel, moderated by Brian Williams, brought together the mayors of Jacksonville, Augusta and Houston who shared specific local stories of outside the box public-private partnerships that are making a difference in the lives of veterans and families. New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced a new Joining Forces collaboration among his administration, the Robin Hood Foundation that will provide priority job placement services for veterans at the City's Workforce 1 centers, a new center solely for veterans, and a website to help veterans navigate city services. Bloomberg said, "Our partnership with the Robin Hood Foundation is designed to help our City's veterans build better lives, find jobs and homes, and help our City improve the services they count on." In another silo-crossing partnership, the Robin Hood Foundation is collaborating with the Institute for Veterans and Military Families at Syracuse University and the management consulting firm McKinsey and Company to provide veteran-focused resources for employers throughout New York City and across the country.

Tom Brokaw moderated the opening panel with Admiral Mike Mullen, Senator Patti Murray, Wes Moore, Shaun Donovan (U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development) and Nancy Berglass, (Director, Iraq and Afghanistan Deployment Impact Fund). Brokaw spoke about the need to create a connective tissue, a welcoming societal network that brings civilians and veterans together, promotes understanding and recognition, and just might help unite our polarized nation. Katie Couric moderated a panel of corporate leaders and non-profits that helping connect vets to jobs. Willie Geist chaired a discussion of the struggles and opportunities in transitioning back to civilian life with non-profit leaders and the Assistant Secretary for Policy and Planning at the VA, Raul Perea-Henze. Ashley Bunce, Director of Public Awareness and Education at the Bob Woodruff Foundation spoke movingly from personal experience of the challenges that family care providers face in of caring for wounded warriors. The celebrity presence continued as Gayle King moderated the closing panel on the mental health needs of returning troops, veterans and their families, featuring retired Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, General Peter Chiarelli, and mental health experts.

Here are some of the main themes from the day:

1. The need to identify best practices and programs, and to require proven outcome data or "metrics" so that investments made in innovative care will be effective and efficient.

2. The need to recognize the strengths that returning troops and veterans bring to the table, as well as their problems. And their desire to continue to serve.

3. Urgent need to improve existing transition assistance programs, which Mike Mullen and others called "inadequate at best."

4. Address the "woefully inadequate" scale of funding for non-profit programs and the urgent need to help community-based groups develop needed infrastructure to scale up proven, needed, innovative practices that are not available through government programs.

5. The need for companies recruit and hire not just seasoned returning junior officers but also enlisted service members and other veterans.

6. The need for translating military experience into civilian job competencies.

7. The need for veterans, service members and their families on one hand, and civilians and civilian families on the other, to come together in mutual respect, support and understanding. And to develop the necessary "cross-cultural competency."

8. The need for peer networks so that returning home can be a "shared experience." Mullen and others echoed the need for a cohort, what another vet called "the next team I want to jump into."

9. The urgent need to "find" vets, since so many do not want to self-identify. Brian Williams called this "spreading the net."

10. Reducing isolation in general and in rural settings in articular, while helping vets connect to services.

In my next blog I will critically examine these issues, explore some hidden obstacles to realizing these goals, and suggest what can be done.

 

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J T K
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
11:52 PM on 06/02/2012
If you want to hire people who served us hire WWII vets, anyone after that hasn't served us or this country.
11:21 AM on 06/18/2012
WOW ! so should we only hire the WW2 vets that volunteered because the ones drafted were forced.
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serz4u
G0P: Repeal Reality!â„¢
11:06 PM on 06/02/2012
It's the free market, man. If they couldn't find a job, means they weren't worth hiring. The invisible hand does no wrong.

-GOP
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
08:45 PM on 06/02/2012
Real men and women with principles would not have "left" home for such evil enterprises. Therefore, there would be no need for a "coming home" for mercenaries such as these.

What, we used to ask, if they gave a war and nobody came?

Those of you who want to serve in this mercenary army; think twice. You will not get the sympathy of many of us when you return.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
08:40 PM on 06/02/2012
Most vets never see combat. A 7:1 ratio of support or cush jobs vs. real risk has always prevailed in the military.

That said, most current vets have escaped civilian unemployment by enlisting. They are now simply returning to the dysfunction or lack of skills that they possessed when they enlisted.

As for hiring Vets first, my son in law has invested two hard years in a state forest service job, qualified in every aspect, and has now been told that the position he sought will be given to a "vet" with no experience.

Let's just hope that vet wasn't on duty in Germany drinking beer and eating schnitzel.
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Bkaas
Take luck!
10:56 PM on 06/04/2012
I'd love to see some evidence to substantiate that "fact" from your first paragraph.
07:17 PM on 06/02/2012
When I retired from the Corps, finding a job was a desperate time! I had my training from Fortune 500 companies, but where told over and over "well that really does not count, you got it in the military!". I venture to say other vets heard the same thing, or"Sorry you don't speak spanish!". I had to settle for some pretty lousy jobs, but I did not give up.
The funny part of this is that these same companies counld in no way afford to give thier employees half of the training I recieved. We don't expect favoritism, we want to work and give the same reliability and "can do" attitude in the work place. I've been retired from the Corps for awhile, but if Corporations have any brains what so ever, hire a vet is a positive situation. You are getting a person who has pride in what they do,and will go the extra mile to see things through!
05:58 PM on 06/02/2012
You realize that serving in the Military is now a choice and can for most be a career. Many are leaving their Military "JOB" by choice, the same choice they made when the joined. It should be noted that there are hundreds of thousands of civilians and contractors who have also served abroad, many directly in combat conditions. I am thankful that many chose to join the Military as well a fire, police officers, nurses, and teachers.
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05:55 PM on 06/02/2012
hah! the repugs sent our jobs to China, Malaysia, India last two decades.... all those manufacturing jobs are gone and will never come back. The only jobs for vets will have to be govt jobs created for vets. The vets that do not have college degrees will be competing with record #s of civilian college grads that are unemployed. This is not going to be easy or pretty..... WWII vets came home to manufacturing jobs and unions and the entire 50s were prosperous for all....but that is unlikely now. We would have to put tariffs on any imports to bring that manufacturing back to the US< and the likihood of the consumer giving up cheap goods from China is low...
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jeanrenoir
05:36 PM on 06/02/2012
The poor suckers who felt patriotic in signing up for Bush's proxy war for Israel in Iraq, and his failed war in Afghanistan as a direct result, were deluded if they thought that most Americans would lift a finger to help them when they got out of the service. If you've got a country in which 99% of the families contribute NOTHING to the war effort, and only 1% of the families suffer through the dying, the maiming, and the PTDS, then it should surprise no one that the veterans will get home to find their "neighbors" way too busy pursuing their own selfish goals to give a damn about people who merely risked their lives to defend the other 99%.
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08:34 PM on 06/02/2012
We do it for reasons the cynics will never understand. Most of us fully understand the 99% in ways you will also never understand.
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modeforjoe
We had the experience, but we missed the meaning
08:43 PM on 06/02/2012
They didn't risk their lives to defend the 99%. Their adventures had nothing to do with national security, with our safety. These are elective wars, and the poor screws who sign up for them in order to get retirement and three squares have to face the consequences of choosing a hazardous situation.

I say hazardous. Don't forget, however, that most vets, approx. 70% of them, never see combat, but do desk jobs, plumbing, wiring, clerking, typing, truck driving--those few who are stationed in Germany drinking beer and eating schnitzel, or those stationed in Japan, eating sushi--you think they are heroes or deserve special treatment?
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03:29 PM on 06/02/2012
Helping vets reintegrate is a hard sell, when the wars are uncalled for and the economy is such that many non-military people need jobs too. In these times, the military is a "good" job as well. I know a couple military folks who are retired at 40, plenty of savings because housing and all was provided overseas, and fantastic pension benefits.
Further, the value of military skills is vasty over-rated; "leadership", a nefarious concept, appears to be a quality almost anyone can acquire, whereas, the military specialized more heavily in followership. The "debt" the citizenry owes to its soldiers is also hard to nail down because many many people become soldiers because it appears to be their best or only career option, not due to some extreme sense of patriotism. (The Pat Tilmans are 1 in 1000 in the lower ranks.)
For the most part it is the media, acting as a sales tool for the military, that puts forth the idea that the military teaches invaluable skills and that all soldiers are patriotic "heros".
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unfoxworthy
We:ScottOlsens,the misfits,out to change the world
05:53 PM on 06/02/2012
Well stated.
I'd like to also say to Joseph (and friends).
OUR BOYS AND GIRLS are serving so that ALL Americans can obtain jobs in a free AND HONEST AND TRANSPARENT society.
Not what the 1% has neatly crafted here.
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08:31 PM on 06/02/2012
In my career, I saw lots of leadership and a lack of management. On the civil side I see lots managers and few leaders. If you truly knew the difference you would not not call leadership a nefarious concept. We manage programs and we lead people. It is "we and they did" when it's going well. It is "I" when there is a mistake.

I am responsible for growing them and training them, not just making sure they punch the clock on time.
I am responsible for teaching them to learn how to think out of the box and find solutions to problems and to have the courage to speak up when there is a problem.
I am responsible for creating an environment where they want to come to work.
I am responsible to be their advocate and get them the pay increases that they have earned
Those are some of my invaluable skills learned and practiced in the military.
My reward; I am trusted up and down the chain.

I do not expect any citizen to pay a debt, but I will hire a vet first and foremost. The only exceptions are the interns that I bring in to get them going with their first jobs and professional references.
We're not all heros, and I for one can care less about the media. Time in the military provides the opportunity to learn the "leadership" There are many who also never take the time learn them.
03:05 PM on 06/02/2012
The Coming Home Project is a worthy endeavor, and I wish it success.

But I hope the Project’s supporters are aware they’re going against the grain of at least 200 years’ worth of American History. At least since the Civil War, Americans have had a bad habit of conveniently forgetting returning veterans just as soon as the last shot is fired. The one exception seems to be the post WWII period when the US was so afraid of the wreckage that tens of thousands of returning and unemployed GI’s could make of the economy that the first – and very generous -- GI Bill was passed to get the troops educated, employed, productive and re-integrated into society.

Since then, though, veterans of Korea, Viet Nam, the Gulf War and many other minor conflicts have returned home to find the country willfully ignorant of their sacrifices, and unwilling to build a robust safety net for them. This is primarily a cultural problem, not an economic one, so the Project has a huge job ahead to make the cultural shift happen.

Good luck!
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drumz
The less you know the more you believe.
01:37 PM on 06/02/2012
These are volunteers and are already being given something to fight for the corporations and very little for the average citizen. Maybe these same corporations (oil mostly) so eager to start wars to protect their profits should be the ones to hire these as their mercenaries.

We need regulations to force these companies to defend their own interests/profits abroad and not the military unless they either share profits or give American 35% discounts.
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cyberfringe
When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.
12:57 PM on 06/02/2012
I am all in favor of helping vets reassimilate into civil society. We should do whatever we can. Let's also remember that this is a problem we made for ourselves and stop digging the hole any deeper: 1. The "all volunteer" military is staffed in large measure by young people who had no other job prospects when they enlisted. 2. The demand for enlistees is created by our enormously costly, seemingly perpetual wars. 3. Money spent on war COULD have been spent fostering innovation, infrastructure and education, all of which create good jobs and help the economy -- the jobs our enlistees could not find. We can't spend the same money twice. Today, we can best help vets, and avoid these problems in the future by redirecting military spending to education, innovation and infrastrucure and by staffing future military adventures with short term draftee citizen-soldiers to spread the social cost. The problems we face are easier to avoid in the first place than they are to solve, but we have to make the right choices.
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kamact
Market Observer
12:25 PM on 06/02/2012
I believe the many US companies with international interests, which benefit from the US military protecting their interests, have a moral obligation to hire and train our veterans....or alternatively patroitic Americans should hire these veterans to clean out the corruption first on Wall Street...then...
10:37 AM on 06/02/2012
God....what have WE done to these young men? What were these wars about? Not for freedom and democracy. The Supreme Court gave our freedom and democracy to the "Corporation are people" criminals. Every time I go through the airport humiliation exam, I know that Osama took away a small part of our freedom. What have we done to these young men and why?
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Nic the wonder puppy
When life throws lemons, throw them back
10:30 AM on 06/02/2012
Nic says don't forget hire the Vet, but not the masked guy who gives me shots.