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Five Reasons Why Man = Meat

Posted: 07/31/11 10:14 PM ET

To my fellow men:

It's time to bring forward some reasoned arguments against the wave of "evidence" and public opinion claiming that meat is unhealthy, unethical, and unattractive. The next time you're being bullied by the carrot mobs, give them a spoonful of sloppy joe and the following five reasons why you've made the choice (it's a free country!) to keep on eating 222 pounds of meat a year.

1. Fecal Soup.
99 percent of chickens take a long, cold bath in massive tanks of water and communal feces before their meat leaves the slaughter plant. The chicken industry literally calls it, "fecal soup." Here's the cool thing: A small, but now extinct tribe of men in Burundi believed that inhaling chicken crap gave them "special" powers. We could have those powers. And the USDA legally requires companies to indicate what percentage of their chicken meat is infused with crap water. Unfortunately, the law doesn't allow for more than 11 percent liquid absorption. The next time you buy chicken, just look closely at the small print on the bottom-right of the package. Anything over 5 percent should be enough to give you superhuman qualities.

2. Sex.
You'll get it less. Mostly because eating lots of meat (read: inhaling cholesterol) has been linked in study after study to impotence. And the first blocked artery in men is usually pumping blood to, yep, the penis. If you think strategically, though, your impending arousal issues should mean that you'll become even more irresistible to your partner. The "hard to get strategy" worked with your last two ex-girlfriends, right? It's time to bring that same strategy to the bedroom. Side note that you should probably keep to yourself: Erectile dysfunction is the canary in the coal mine for heart disease.

3. Strength.
Modern women aren't attracted to men that challenge stereotypes, have the strength to act in alignment with their deepest values, and live with compassion and integrity. And the fact is that women just dig men who see clips of defenseless mother pigs stuffed in crates so small that they can't turn around, and then blurt out, "But, I love me some bacon!" It's a turn on. Go ask them.

4. Salt.
Eating lots of meat will make your "stuff" smell like a decomposing -- but salty -- pig carcass. The digestion of animal protein creates a dumpster-like bacterial environment, giving your girl that, "Did I just throw up in my mouth?" taste. See, the less a woman is interested in all that down there, the more satisfying it'll be the two times a year (read: your birthday and Valentines Day) that she's brave enough to give it a try. Common sense dictates another strip of bacon on that BLT.

5. Sympathy.
Colon cancer has been linked to slurping down red and processed meats, presumably related to the armies of nitrates swimming around in every bite. And "vegetarians have the lowest rates of coronary heart disease of any group in the country," said Dr. Castelli, director of the longest-running study of diet and heart disease in the world. What should all that "science" mean to you? In romantic relationships, the sympathy card is always a winner. And getting sick means lots of it. Expect more massages and more home cooked breakfasts -- a silver lining, even if you're crapping blood.

Strap on a pair, and enjoy your dinner.

 

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12:28 AM on 08/06/2011
I feel so sorry for both of my grandfathers, they died prematurely at 93 after years of eating red meat(and pie). Had only they known, they might have easily lived to 95 or 96.
02:30 AM on 08/06/2011
Heaven forbid, you might end up like Gertrude Baines, whose favorite foods were bacon and ice cream. She only lived to a tender young age of 115. Or Edna Parker, who especially enjoyed eggs, bacon, and sausage on a regular basis, and died at 115. Or Walter Bruening, another fan of eggs and bacon, whose favorite food was liver and onions, who died at 113.
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joshtetrick
10:27 AM on 08/06/2011
I'm glad they cared about #3 above. - J
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elcerritan
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11:27 PM on 08/06/2011
Um. I think this is what's called a non sequitur.
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Bianca S
You can't go trick-or-treating. Ever. For a week
04:50 PM on 08/05/2011
Josh, Dan Buettner doesn't advocate a vegan or vegaterian diet to live long, so I'm not sure what the point of that video down below was. This is what he wrote in an article for HuffPo:

"Plant-based diet. No, you don't need to become a vegetarian, but do bump up your intake of fruits and veggies."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-buettner/how-to-live-to-100---nine_b_94972.html

'Plant-based diet' is disingenious when referring to the Sardinians, Costa Ricans and Okinawans anyway, as they are nowhere near vegetarians or vegans. They fish, beef and other meats in moderate amounts & plenty of veggies.

The most important factor in longevity and health, is practicing eating til 80 % full. This is what factors in on them eating 25 % less than Americans overall, which has ZERO to do with consuming a vegeterian or vegan diet. If you are vegeterian, you can eat tons of processed fake meats, grains and nuts, which are very calorie dense. The only way to ensure you consume less calories, is upping your intake of nutrient dense, low calories veggies, which is an important factor of a healthy omnivore diet anyway.

They are also more active, walking everyday, which is not a 'vegetarian' attribute as well.

I'ts easy to gloss over the truth with a sweeping statement like 'plant based diet' to suit your vegetarian agenda, while deliberately failing to mention, every culture does indeed consume an omnivore diet.
05:04 PM on 08/05/2011
Well said Bianca. It was downright bizarre that Josh Tetrick misguidedly offered that video up as scientific proof that vegetarianism will make you live longer, which is of course, nonsense.

Notably, Sardinian cuisine is largely based in skewered meats, seafood, and sheep's milk cheese.

Funny that so many vegangelicals seem to think that eating meat means forgoing vegetables, which is absurd. I adore vegetables. I can't even think of one that I don't like. And I grow vegetables. And I have worked with the Appalachian Sustainable Agriculture Project to help teach people how to cook dishes made from locally grown vegetables.
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05:23 PM on 08/05/2011
See comment below, but I'll provide the core intelligence (and direct quote) from Dan's work, too: "Eat mostly a plant-base­d diet heavy on beans, nuts and green plants. Eat meat in small portions (the size of a deck of cards) fewer than twice weekly." And from the huffpost article Bianca cited, "Use beans, rice or tofu as the anchor to your meals."
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05:15 PM on 08/05/2011
Hey - Thanks for reading the post, and this is an important point to get right. From the section on Dan's website that provides concrete advice on living longer and healthier: "Eat mostly a plant-based diet heavy on beans, nuts and green plants. Eat meat in small portions (the size of a deck of cards) fewer than twice weekly." And from the huffpost article you cited, "Use beans, rice or tofu as the anchor to your meals."

If we all followed his advice, we'd be healthier, live longer, and do an enormous service to the planet. - Josh
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Karl Wilder
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08:54 PM on 08/05/2011
If you eat tofu be VERY careful. Most soy in the US is a GMO product and potentially dangerous. You need to make sure you are getting tofu made from fermented soybeans. Unfermented soy is problematic.
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02:37 PM on 08/05/2011
Very funny article. I enjoyed laughing *at* it, vs *with* it.
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10:31 AM on 08/05/2011
Intelligent, well written, funny, enjoyable article. I can't say the same for most of the comments here though. Some people just don't value the same things. That's why people will never agree on this issue. Especially when some one drops the "G" word (God)
12:14 PM on 08/05/2011
Hmmm... I wonder if the above snarky, mean-spirited, completely sarcastic article attacking the manhood of people who eat meat, had been written about vegetarians.... would you still say it was a "Intelligent, well written, funny, enjoyable article"??? Of course not. You would have recognized it for the offensive, juvenile, and inappropriate tripe that it really is.
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12:41 PM on 08/05/2011
Rick - Thanks, man.
03:34 AM on 08/05/2011
Okay, so I have a few things to say....

1. “One of the problems with both the meat eating world AND the vegan world is that they don’t want to hear any science that they don’t agree with.” Dr. Gabriel Coesens

2. That said, I don't understand the animosity with which some of the "meat world" has responded to this article. Why don't you appreciate some good creatie writing??? Regular scientific articles are dry and Josh puts a twist on an issue that is important to him (& should be to everyone) that make them informative & entertaining.

3. Josh gets negative comments from people all the time, which comes w/ territory of being a writer & proponent on a controversial subj. Not just here, but on other forums too. Unlike some of the readers here (ahem, elcerritan), he has maintained a courteous & respectful tone to all at all times, so the venemous tones are inappropriate & one-sided.

BASICALLY....
* If you want to throw punches, join a gym.
* Googling "debunking China Study" & reading what shows up doesn't prove anything. It was JUST recommended to me TODAY by a world-renowned doctor who heals diabetes w/a vegetarian diet in DC....That's like saying, "The government will warn us if we need to worry about radiation from Japan." You'll always find/hear what you want to hear.
* Act like an adult. Unless you are < 17. Then maybe you should read PG-13 articles.

Good night.
12:07 PM on 08/05/2011
Sorry Morgan, but that is baloney. It is mind-boggling that you seriously just tried to argue that the snarky, completely sarcastic article attacking the manhood of people who eat meat was "courteous and respectful"! That may be the most bizarre definition of courteous and respectful that I have ever seen. Exactly what part of sarcastic wisecracks about "erectile dysfunction" and "crapping blood" do you find courteous and respectful? You really think that if someone wrote a sarcastic, snarky article attacking the manhood of vegetarians with his brand of juvenile rhetoric and repulsive imagery, it would be considered courteous and respectful? Are you kidding?!?

Come down off your high horse. Contrary to your completely unwarranted aspersions, elcerritan is not some childish young person that substitutes googling for real knowledge. She is an accomplished, intensely knowledgeable person with a developed grasp of complex issues surrounding sustainable agriculture and the essential importance of animals in food systems, that occasionally gets frustrated with childish, misguided nonsense such as the snarky and inappropriate article above.
12:31 PM on 08/05/2011
I don't know....this is just kind of what makes sense to me...but if you don't like his style of writing or subject matter, find a new blog to harass? Or find one you even LIKE or enjoy? I don't go around finding blogs written about KKK members to read and then spend all day arguing with them. Geez how exhausting. Done now with ya'll.

PS - if you had read it carefully (instead of with whatever ridiculous anger is circling in your head), you might have realized I was referring to his COMMENTS as courteous and respectful. And NOTHING I said was untrue and can hardly be considered slanderous....so while you are rereading #3, do another quick check on the definition of aspersion. Not applicable.

PPS - I don't have a horse. You can't in my neighborhood. I'm considering a spider monkey though.
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12:42 PM on 08/05/2011
Best line: "Googling "debunking China Study" & reading what shows up doesn't prove anything." Amen to that. Thanks for reading, M.
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elcerritan
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09:07 PM on 08/05/2011
Actually knowing something about science and statistics and the underlying observational data that Campbell supposedly relied on DOES prove something, however, and what it proves is that Campbell's book is just an embarrassment. Of course YOU, as a person who apparently relies on "Googling" for your "information" couldn't be expected to "get" that.
12:20 PM on 08/04/2011
Sorry to have to be the one to burst your bubble there Josh, but there has never been a single vegan culture in the history of humanity, so the long term effects of a vegan diet are virtually impossible to study. Yes, some physically active, non-smoking, non-drinking groups such as the 7th Day Adventists tend to live slightly longer than the average person eating junk food every day. That's all that study ever proved. But they don't live any longer on average than other non-smoking, non drinking, active people.

Fact is, more than half of all vegans have been shown to have severe B12 deficiencies, which is a health nightmare. As opposed to less than 1/2 of 1% of omnivores. And that's why it is also not surprising that numerous studies have shown that vegans and vegetarians have much higher rates of elevated homocysteine, which is a major indicator of heart disease. And vegans have significantly lower bone density.

Whats more, the largest population of vegetarians in the world is India, which also happens to be the heart disease capital of the world and the diabetes capital of the world. In fact, it is so bad that the World Health Organization has now predicted that more than half of all of the heart attacks in people under 50 on the entire planet will now happen in just one single country.... India! And that's what you are shooting for?!? Good luck with that.
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06:01 PM on 08/04/2011
Hey - As always, thanks for reading. Re your comment, I guess that's like saying: "There hasn't been a single culture in the world that consistently runs 4/times a day and drinks lots of water, therefore it's impossible to study the impact of running and/or water." That doesn't make a whole lot of sense, you know? You said: "Fact is, more than half of all vegans have been shown to have severe B12 deficiencies." Mind providing the link to that study for everyone to see? Thanks, again - Josh
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elcerritan
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11:40 PM on 08/04/2011
I don't know what study wildisthewind was referring to, but here's one study I'm aware of showing a 50% incidence of B12 deficiency in a group of vegans in Britain: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20648045
12:02 AM on 08/05/2011
Well Josh, that is not a very good guess, because your analogy is way off. We are talking about longevity and nutrition. In order for such studies to be meaningful, there has to be significant numbers of people who were lifelong vegans. There are not, because again, there has never been a single vegan culture in the history of humanity. Longevity is not an easy thing to study, and attributing it to any one cause with certainty is next to impossible, so your claims are nonsense. At best, a longevity study looking at diet can recognize correlates, not causes. And if the people in the study weren't always on the diet, it makes attributing any statistical variance to diet even more ridiculous.

Actually, more than one study has found that more than half of all vegans have severe B12 deficiencies at levels likely to cause permanent damage. The numbers are far too damning to explain away as statistical anomalies. I am happy to share. Here are two of them; both peer reviewed studies published in major journals:
http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v64/n9/abs/ejcn2010142a.html
and
http://www.ajcn.org/content/78/1/131.full

Maybe it is time for you to rethink the anti-meat rhetoric that you are constantly pushing here.
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sabelmouse
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07:28 AM on 08/05/2011
i think the reason that india is the heart disease and diabetes capital of the world now has a lot to do with the introduction of processed food in more recent times.
05:50 PM on 08/05/2011
That may well be the case sablemouse. I brought it up because it clearly illustrates the fact that the ridiculous notion that all of our health problems will be solved if we just adopt a vegetarian diet is utter nonsense.
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10:27 AM on 08/04/2011
Problems 2,4&5 come from excessive consumption. I rarely eat chicken, not that knowing about the fecal bath changes whether I will eat chicken so there goes number 1. Problem 3 has never been an issue. So basically there is nothing here that would detract from meat's allure.

I am sorry but it is just so damned delicious. There is no way I would ever willingly give up well marbled steaks, slow smoked brisket or pork butt, the wonderful world of charcuterie, sushi, crab claws, lobster tails, shrimp, and any number of other treats from the land and the sea.

I buy my steaks from a local organic farm and try to source things as best I can, but I would certainly not begrudge someone for not doing that as it is a damned expensive way to eat.
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12:04 PM on 08/04/2011
Hey Spriddler - Cool of you to check this post out; thanks a lot. Re #3, do the conditions in the clip feel like, well, you? Do they feel like something you're OK supporting? - Josh
10:21 PM on 08/04/2011
I wonder if you've seen how animals die before they got to your plate. I went lobster diving a few years ago for the first and only time because upon grabbing my first "bug" I was shocked at how strong it was, how hard it struggled to get out of my grasp because it wanted to live. I let it go. I never ate lobster again after that. I'm no damn barracuda, or shark, or mountain lion or any other predator. I'm human. Human with the capacity for compassion and ability to live just fine without animal products. No cow, chicken or pig tastes good enough to be worth it to put through the horrors of factory farming or lobster tasty enough to resist it's will to live.
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05:26 PM on 08/05/2011
Two things:

1) All diets cause animal deaths.

2) It's not difficult to find meat or animal products from humanely raised animals.
PATOISJAM
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09:48 AM on 08/03/2011
For my part I believe that God's original purpose was for humans to be vegetarians. But evenif that is not so, the hormones pumped into the meat alone is scary. For me eating meat is like drinking water with just the smallest amount of arsenic in a glass of water and thinking that it is harmless. Overtime, drinking that water with the little arsenic will kill.

I supose we will all die of something but I hold with the writer since meat eaters are generally less healthy in the long run.

What I would really like to know is: If there is a group of starving meat-eating people would they eat each other quicker if they are meat-eaters?
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sabelmouse
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07:35 AM on 08/05/2011
god should have made more benign climates then where good food just grows and nobody needs meat.
big mistake.
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Mirabai305
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07:28 PM on 08/05/2011
God actually made many tactical errors. Knees, for instance. Simply dreadful design.
12:10 AM on 08/03/2011
Get pastured animals and you're healthier than a vegetarian, your food tastes better, and it's better for the environment.
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joshtetrick
12:28 AM on 08/03/2011
Eating less meat, and particularly less meat from factory farms (99 percent of all animals we eat are packed body-to-body in inhumane conditions) is a step towards living our values, Dan. Appreciate you reading the post. - Josh
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elcerritan
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02:11 AM on 08/04/2011
Oh, there you go again, with your patronizing "it's a step" business. Nothing short of flat out veganism is REALLY good enough, is it?

"A step" towards living "our" values? Speak for yourself and stop trying to project what "our" values should be. I already live my values and I eat meat. It doesn't come from factory farms and there's absolutely nothing about where it comes from or how it's produced that's in any way antithetical to my values and I suspect the same is true for Dan Minardi. I don't know about Dan, but I think your patronizing tone is insufferable.

And by the way, Josh, referring to several of the items in your article: there are no "nitrates swimming around" in unprocessed red meat, and if you think women aren't interested in men who eat meat, you don't know enough women. This whole article sounds as if its intended audience is a bunch of sexually insecure adolescent boys. Lame.
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12:39 PM on 08/04/2011
Josh: I don't live far from Harris Ranch (one of the largest feedlots in the West) and even there they are not 'packed body to body'. Cattle, being herd animals, do tend to stick close together in both feedlots and on the range.
09:10 PM on 08/02/2011
funny but all too true! great way to share the negatives of the meat industry, from health to the environment to most importantly the animals. the lives they lead, from birth until their very early deaths, are horrific. whether its from a "free-range" facility (which isn't even regulated by the USDA) or a factory farm, a diet that includes animals products is a diet not to be had.
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joshtetrick
12:08 AM on 08/03/2011
Appreciate it --- a lot. Thanks for reading it, and all that you do.
08:18 PM on 08/02/2011
Haha! Love it!
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joshtetrick
12:08 AM on 08/03/2011
Thank ya, Mary!
08:00 PM on 08/02/2011
Wow, I've never read such a continuous line of ignorance in my life. Thanks for reminding me I need to keep an eye out for extremists. Good thing I know where my meat comes from down to who butchers and packages it. For you to say insinuate the idea that it's about the meat and not the processing and conditions the animals are subjected to only serves to show me how close minded you are about the actual science going on about nutrition. You do know the China study was debunked don't you?
Here's an idea, eat what we evolved to eat. That means meat and vegetables. Stay away from processed garbage like flour, sugar/hfcs, pasta and highly preserved foods and guess what? You'll be healthy, lean and just fine in the sack. While I appreciate the tongue in cheek presentation, you might consider more science and less glib repartee about peoples health
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10:00 PM on 08/02/2011
Hey Cuthbert - Thanks a lot for reading, and commenting. You know, your point about turning away from where 99 percent of all the meat we consume comes from (read: factory farms) is well taken. A step (like that) that is more aligned with our values is one that a lot more people should take. Re processing and their conditions, check out the undercover investigation link in #3. - Josh
08:15 AM on 08/03/2011
I know about the conditions most of the meat is subject to in this country. That's why I buy my meat directly from the farm. I know where it lived and what it ate right to the end. I know that to obtain optimum nutrition I need to eat meat as well as vegetables. You spouting off about men who eat meat can't get it up makes you part of the problem when it comes to proper nutrition messaging. I can in all civility acknowledge that the system to ensure our food is safe for consumption is broken, however, I am able to find high quality nutrition because I make it a priority. You need to spend some time thinking about your message or you run the risk being lumped in with the extremists. You could start off by admitting that meat is the most nutrient dense part of a healthy human diet. Our bodies are made of it, and our digestion is made to break it down into essential fatty acids as a matter of genetic evolution. Additionally, you can say much of what you criticize about meat production is also a problem with produce. Since we import much of our produce from abroad, we know little about the conditions it was sewn in. Pesticides? Water quality? Pickers fecal matter? I can let my imagination run wild, but in the end, I still eat both, because I realize that my body requires them to be properly fueled and sustained.
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elcerritan
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02:19 AM on 08/04/2011
He can't consider "more science and less glib repartee," Cuthbert, because he's a stranger to science and glib facetiousness is his stock in trade -- that and his chatty little "thanks for reading" comments and his patronizing "congratulations" to people who have taken "a step" (but ONLY "a step") toward what HE thinks one's values OUGHT to be, by avoiding meat from "factory farms."
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joshtetrick
03:25 AM on 08/04/2011
Let me know if the science in above post was incorrect, and if so, how? - J
07:33 PM on 08/02/2011
Such a clever writer, this fellow, Josh. I look forward to reading more by him.
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joshtetrick
12:14 AM on 08/03/2011
Lisa - Much appreciated. And I've heard about your work w/companies @ All Things Vegan http://bit.ly/p6kfuY Pretty cool, and extremely important. Thanks for leading the charge for a humane economy every single day. - Josh
04:19 PM on 08/02/2011
F-u-n---neee!! Reverse psychology with some wit.
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joshtetrick
12:24 AM on 08/03/2011
Appreciate it a lot, Robert!