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Muslim 'Radicalization' Hearings are Wrong and Misguided

Posted: 01/20/11 09:51 AM ET

Socially and professionally, we as American Jews have often felt as though we were being 'put on the stand' for our beliefs. Sometimes our beliefs even seemed to be on trial nationally -- notably during the 'Red Scares' leading up to and during the Cold War, when a disproportionate number of Jews were blacklisted.

But seldom has our religion actually been put on the stand. No organ of the federal government has, to my knowledge, held hearings to investigate American Jewry for disloyalty or radicalization. We may have feared such public humiliation -- but it has not yet materialized.

By contrast, an effort is currently underway to single out American Muslims. Representative Peter King (R-NY), Chair of the Homeland Security Committee of the House of Representatives, has declared his intention to hold a public hearing in Congress on the "radicalization" of Muslim Americans.

King declared on a segment of Fox News this past December that "We have to break through this politically correct nonsense which keeps us from debating and discussing what I think is one of the most vitally important issues in this country. We are under siege by Muslim terrorists and yet there are Muslim leaders in this country who do not cooperate with law enforcement."

Rhetoric like this is troubling; King's efforts to put these congressional hearings in motion are dumbfounding.

First, King overlooks the tremendous amount of collaboration between law enforcement and Muslim communal leaders. To name but several Muslim leaders (who I am fortunate to call colleagues), Imam Khalid Latif is himself a uniformed member of the NYPD; Imam Yahya Hendi was honored by the FBI for his leadership and work to improve collaboration between law enforcement and the Muslim community; and Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf has worked closely with the State Department to foster greater trust of the United States government within majority-Muslim countries overseas. Though some of the most prominent figures in the American Muslim community, they are but three of numerous Muslim leaders who collaborate actively with law enforcement. There are always exceptions to every rule, but Representative King misidentifies the rule itself.

Second, if Representative King actually seeks to enhance cooperation between Muslim Americans and law enforcement, singling out their religious community is a losing strategy. Instead, if anything, King should ask what Imams Latif, Hendi, and Rauf are doing right and how to get others to follow suit. Praising known best-practices, rather than criticizing the amorphous, is a better strategy for engaging the American Muslim community in the effort to thwart extremists of all religions.

Third, Rep. King must be consistent and fair if he is to hold hearings about individual communities at all. In spite of the fact that the perpetrator of the shooting spree in Tucson, Arizona was not Muslim, King has publicly refused to broaden the scope of the proposed inquiry to include the radicalization of other American communities (whether defined religiously or not) or individuals therein. In refusing to do so, he delegitimizes the hearings he will hold -- as well, one fears, as his own high office.

As Chair of the Homeland Security Committee in the House of Representatives, Mr. King must do better. Defending our homeland begins with our rights -- and the rights of our religious communities not to be singled out and set up for the possibility of public humiliation.

The hearings must be stopped even before they are started. Otherwise, they may well lead to the humiliation and marginalization of an American religious community.

See the new Religious Freedom USA campaign to learn what you can do to stop the hearings before they start. This article is reproduced with permission from Rabbis for Human Rights.

 

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Socially and professionally, we as American Jews have often felt as though we were being 'put on the stand' for our beliefs. Sometimes our beliefs even seemed to be on trial nationally -- notably duri...
Socially and professionally, we as American Jews have often felt as though we were being 'put on the stand' for our beliefs. Sometimes our beliefs even seemed to be on trial nationally -- notably duri...
 
 
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12:47 AM on 01/26/2011
Maybe, I should have included the link for the NPR interview.

It's here:

http://www.scpr.org/programs/patt-morrison/2011/01/24/are-american-muslims-being-radicalized/
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The Knocker
a mind is a terrible thing to waste
01:24 AM on 01/26/2011
Great article. Thought it maybe interesting to quote some of it:

"Though acts of violent extremism by U.S. Muslims appear to have grown, their potency has not. American Muslims remain more moderate, diverse and integrated than the Muslim populations in any other Western society."

"The paranoia about homegrown terrorism thus vastly overstates al-Qaeda's strength and reflects our leaders' inability to make honest assessments about the true threats to America's security".

"So why does the myth of homegrown terrorism persist? In part because, like every hardy political meme, it serves the interests of loudmouths on both ends of the ideological spectrum."

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2044047,00.html#ixzz1C7RL44PV
12:41 AM on 01/26/2011
Awesome NPR interview with Hussam Ayloush and Brian Michael Jenkins. It's worth listening to.... especially for people like Mark Webber, Leo Bloom and Jan.
08:31 AM on 01/26/2011
http://www­.scpr.org/­programs/p­att-morris­on/2011/01­/24/are-am­erican-mus­lims-being­-radicaliz­ed/

Click on the audio link near the top.
12:39 AM on 01/26/2011
Great read from Time Magazine:

The Myth of Homegrown Islamic Terrorism

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2044047,00.html#ixzz1BxxkWU4U
11:41 PM on 01/25/2011
If there's no fire they won't find any smoke.

Investigate away!
12:38 AM on 01/26/2011
That's not how these hearings work.
08:25 AM on 01/25/2011
"Praising known best-practices, rather than criticizing the amorphous, is a better strategy for engaging the American Muslim community in the effort to thwart extremists of all religions."

There is a more sensible suggestion. Read this:

William Ewart Gladstone (1809–1898) was Prime Minister of Great Britain four times: 1868–74, 1880–85, 1886 and 1892–94. He called the Qur'an an "accursed book" and once held it up during a session of Parliament, declaring: "So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world."
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05:33 PM on 01/25/2011
I don't see how Gladstone's statement is "more sensible" or even sensible at all.

He could have just as easily held up the Bible and not improved or diminished his foolish statement.
07:58 PM on 01/25/2011
I could list countless other great minds whose opinions differ from his.However, the opinions of old people who lived in different times should not influence political decisions of today. Once upon a time people were not educated and relied on the opinions of their leaders. Today, we have the ability to crack open a book or two and use our brains to make up our own minds.
He was driven by his Christian faith, he is a big supporter of the Church, proposed that Turks be kicked out of Europe, thought that the Turks were not as smart as Europeans (this was the colonial period) and ruled during the colonial period. All of this factors into his opinion because, after all, he was a politician.
06:36 AM on 01/25/2011
"How is it politicall­y correct to state that Muslims are not collective­ly guilty of terrorism and that not all American Muslims should be perceived as the enemy within?"

Hardly 5% of German population were members of Hitler party; but the silent majority supported Hitler in the holocaust.

Not many muslims will agree: that all religions are equal; a firm belief in gender equality; obeying local; laws and not aspiring for shariaa imposition and not aspiring for world domination of Islam and universal imposition of shariaa. Read this:

"SLAMIC preacher Ibrahim Siddiq-Conlon points heavenwards to emphasise his message for the governments of Australia -- there is no God but Allah and only his laws should be obeyed.

"My attack is on the Prime Minister of Australia," he said yesterday. "I hate the parliament in Canberra. I want to go straight for the jugular vein and advise the parliament that they have no right to legislate. They should immediately step down and let the Muslims take over."

"One day Australia will live under sharia; it's inevitable," he said. "If they (Australians) don't accept it, that's not our problem. We hope, and our objective is to have a peaceful transition, but when you look at history that has never been the case. There's always been a fight. It is inevitable that one day there will be a struggle for Islam in Australia."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/pm-go-and-let-the-muslims-take-over/story-e6frg6nf-1225991362018
07:25 AM on 01/25/2011
Yawn. Nobodies are nobodies, except that the MSM loves them.
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11:24 AM on 01/25/2011
Pranav, there always extremists in every religions, have you heard about BJP or RSS There are Hindus Extremists, as matter a fact Rahul Gandhi Warns US about the growing of this dangerous extremists group!
You can pick any loonies from every religions and believe me that loonies could not speak behalf on whole group. You are sure have a good intentions!
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My comments are funnier than yours.
09:46 PM on 01/24/2011
Really? McCarthyism is bad?
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12:59 PM on 01/24/2011
The writer is correct in saying a faith and its people should not be put on trial...unless there is clear evidence that this faith and its people are being swayed to violent acts through religious zeal. So far, this hasn't proven to be the case here. But it could happen. F
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10:25 AM on 01/25/2011
if that's the case, then every nation that isn't secular has a lot to answer for.
11:33 AM on 01/23/2011
Firstly, I come from a Muslim background. I don't recall Jews forming groups with names like "Hizb ul Yaweh" and blowing up public transportation or setting up bombs in market places or shooting up hotels around the world. You're blinding yourself with political correctness if you can't see that the Islamist terrorism phenomenon is unique. I'm no fan of Peter King, but if he can provoke Muslims to be more proactive against these Islamist movements, which DO exist in the US as they do elsewhere, then this could be beneficial for everyone. Let's have open discussions about what's going on with Islamic terrorism, before more drastic responses become the only courses left open.
05:10 AM on 01/24/2011
Firstly, what does that mean, exactly, to say that you come from a Muslim background? Does that mean that your ancestors were Muslim?

Your second point is completely irrelevant. Just because you have neither heard of the IDF or the Mossad is completely irrelevant to the article.

How is it politically correct to state that Muslims are not collectively guilty of terrorism and that not all American Muslims should be perceived as the enemy within?

It doesn't seem that you are ready for an open discussion about Islamic terrorism, because you have already lumped all Muslims in the "guilty" pot without even identifying that the vast majority of terrorist attacks attributed to Muslims in the U.S. are merely false flag events with the sole purpose of demonizing Muslims.

This is not conspiracy theory, but rather conspiracy reality. There are lunatic elements in the world that believe that the great rapture will not occur until Muslims are removed from the planet and they believe the faster the world can go to war with Muslims, the faster we can bring about Armageddon.
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10:51 AM on 01/24/2011
Fan and Fav ! BTW Peter King will sit with Brigitte Gabriel on her show before the hearing. And we all have to believe that he is not prejudice against all muslim?
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02:20 PM on 01/25/2011
"The 'Gharkad' tree - tree of the Jews
Salaam,

Came across something interesting. Was talking to someone and they said that the Jews are planting a certain type of tree all over Israel.

It reminded me of this Hadith:

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews
(killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The
stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me,
come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of
tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the
Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim).

Anyone have any idea or insight on the English name of the 'Gharkad' tree?

Tahirrrrrrrrr "

via
http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?103772-The-Gharkad-tree-tree-of-the-Jews
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01:23 AM on 01/25/2011
every Read of IDF Lehi(Stern Gang)
08:25 PM on 01/25/2011
lehi is not the same thing as the IDF. Lehi at the peak of its strength was less than 1% of the size of the groups that eventually became the IDF
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04:45 PM on 01/22/2011
Bring it on King and make America more hated around the world!!!
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02:23 PM on 01/23/2011
By Islamists, yes. Goody.
07:26 AM on 01/25/2011
Anglicising Arabic words do not make them more meaningful. Rather, it demonstrates a fundamental lack of knowledge about theology.
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01:17 PM on 01/22/2011
"In spite of the fact that the perpetrator of the shooting spree in Tucson, Arizona was not Muslim, King has publicly refused to broaden the scope of the proposed inquiry to include the radicalization of other American communities (whether defined religiously or not) or individuals therein..."

The "what about (blank)" argument really doesn't apply here. Despite the hysterical commentary from armchair pundits, by all accounts, the Tuscon shooter was mentally ill, not a follower of any particular religious or political philosophy.

The author's point about encouraging those in the Muslim community who do work with authorities and speak against radicalization is well taken. But that does not erase the real concern over Muslim radicalization which we've seen in some thwarted and some real attacks in the U.S. and are seeing repeatedly in attacks in Europe. Denying the threat doesn't make it go away.
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12:30 PM on 01/22/2011
Rep. King will not call Steve Emerson or Robert Spencer as first round witnesses and Muslim leaders are quoted as being relieved at the news:

"That's interesting, particularly after we've unpacked Emerson and Spencer's specialties a little. Why would Muslim leaders be "relieved" that experts on jihad and Shariah aren't going to testify in open hearings before the American people?

I think the answer is they don't want to see the doctrinal and historical and cultural links that bind jihad and Shariah to mainstream Islam exposed. Think of it: We've come almost a decade since 9/11 without even lame hearings (like King's unfortunately promise to be) on the links between Islam and jihad.

Indeed, both government and media, beginning on 9/12, have increasingly self-censored themselves into decoupling Islam from jihad altogether. Here, all of a sudden, appears the possibility of a bona fide national discussion."

http://townhall.com/columnists/DianaWest/2011/01/20/lame_hearings_on_islam_will_do_nothing

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=3AABDE7A-531F-442B-94AB-0F285A34C71E
01:21 PM on 01/22/2011
I suspect that sooner or later, one or more European countries will move in the direction of serious hearings. And then, possibly with fewer Democrats in office, it will be more possible for this subject to be seriously broached in the US.

From what I have read, Muslims have refused to debate Spencer for years and years. The problem is, he knows their literature and material backwards and forwards, so he cannot be bullied or pushed around. Anyone who reads one or two of his books will quickly realize that he is very knowledgeable.

And for those who claim he just tells lies, where are the books debunking Spencer's claims? He has been working in this area for decades. That should give you plenty of time, if he is such a threat.
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07:55 AM on 01/23/2011
Spencer for one has oft been discredited as an expert on anything but deceit.
http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/12/robert-spencer-is-a-chicken/

http://www.seekingilm.com/archives/300

Why anyone would have him speak an any hearings is incomprehensible.
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12:11 PM on 01/23/2011
Because there are loonies in congress too!
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12:17 PM on 01/23/2011
The best way to smoke out a charlatan is to have him speak. This works really well if he is opposed by people who disagree with him.

This is pretty much the way we do things in America.

So why do Muslim leaders refuse Mr. Spencer's repeated invitations to public debate? If Muslim scholars were offering Mr. Spencer a chance to debate and he was turning it down, I would wonder what he had to be worried about.

It goes the other way, too.
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Time wounds all heels
11:25 AM on 01/22/2011
Wrong and misguided. That just about sums up Pete King's entire schtick, doesn't it?
06:22 AM on 01/22/2011
And once again, history has taught us nothing.
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MohammedAbbasi
Co-Director, Association of British Muslims
03:57 PM on 01/21/2011
I think the United States should extradite this terrorism supporter (he supported the IRA against UK civilians) to the United Kingdom to stand trial!

I am suprised that this man has so much power in the US!

Whats wrong with you Americans?
11:32 AM on 01/22/2011
I am ashamed to say - very many things are wrong with us Americans if not all..
He is not the only one...
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12:20 PM on 01/22/2011
We have been wondering the same thing about the UK.