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Raising Our Daughters to Be Sexually Authentic Adults

Posted: 04/05/11 07:05 PM ET

In her Wall Street Journal article "Why Do We Let Them Dress Like That?" Jennifer Moses argues that the reason we mothers let our daughters "dress like prostitutes" is largely due to our own sexual regrets. She goes on to speculate that mothers who came of age in what she considers a post-feminist society were perhaps too free with their sexual experimenting.

As a part of the solution to this problem, she subtly advocates abstinence until marriage.

While it seems that Moses' heart is in the right place -- wanting to be protective of our daughters -- I respectfully disagree with her thinking. In fact, I think the real problem is that dressing provocatively is one of the only outlets we allow our daughters to express their sexuality. If, instead, we supported them in gradually assimilating an understanding of their natural sexuality as they grow, they wouldn't need to identify with it primarily through superficial packaging, like the mini-dresses and perilously high heels Moses refers to.

What I believe would help, because hundreds of women in my study and 25 years of clinical practice have taught me so, is affording our daughters and ourselves much more of a right to our own authentic sexuality -- not the cartoonish MTV kind, but the kind where we respect ourselves enough to listen to what our bodies and hearts feel is right for us.

In my book on how a daughter's sexual sense of herself is shaped by her mother's, in quote after quote, women reveal how their mothers unintentionally let them down by leaving them in the dark to learn about sexuality all on their own. They talk about the shame and guilt this created in them and the many ways this inhibited their development of self-worth, not only with regard to their sexuality, but in all areas of their lives.

We aren't living in a post-feminist society; we still live in a world in which female sexuality as women and girls truly experience it is denied, while ridiculously inauthentic and pornographic images of sexuality are constantly splashed in our faces.

Regret over being sexual isn't the issue. The cultural shame and guilt projected onto us for being sexual under any circumstances is what needs to be addressed.

Forcing a moral divide in the way we sexually categorize girls and women as good or bad harms us all. Whether we're abstinent or sexually engaged, none of us should be limited to derogatory pigeonholing like that.

Moses unfortunately reinforces that divide. The language she chooses to put in her article is not generous to sexually active girls or women, as she pits them against the virtues of virginity or marital sex. Those who test the limits of society's tolerance are called out as "skanky," "prostitutes," "good-time girls" and the "campus mattress." And she closes with this sentence: "We wouldn't dream of dropping our daughters off at college and saying: 'Study hard and floss every night, honey -- and for heaven's sake, get laid!'"

There's so much more to our sexual identities than getting laid or refraining from having sex.

When the time comes to drop my daughter off at college, I'll want her to stretch her mind in her classes, build new friendships and further her understanding of herself -- her sexuality included.

 
 
 
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Aitch5
Scintillating
06:18 PM on 04/07/2011
It appears that in our current mass culture---a girl shows the world she is a woman, by dressing in sexy tight clothing and wearing makeup. It seems to be the only rite of passage. that and becoming sexually active.
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Ed Baker
Militant Moderate
04:19 PM on 04/07/2011
Our experience with our daughter kind of fits with the author's premise. We never tried to repress her sexuality - and just gave her information regarding risks and how to protect herself. She is a very fit young woman. She's never dressed provacatively or been overtly sexual.... perhaps because we didn't try to repress her?
12:56 PM on 04/07/2011
All About the Benjamins

as some rapper put it. All the mass media owners care about is how much money they can make. and too many of the socalled "artists" are mindless shock jocks. It's easier and more profitably to sell sex and violence and exploitation than real art. "Charlie's Angels" sells a whole lot better than Masterpiece Theater. Madonna or GAGA sells a lot better than Bach.

Guess we have three choices-1. take over, execute all the trashmasters and mandate REAL ART like Shakespere and Beethoven (ya sure, you betcha) 2. educate the American sheeple to have some TASTE (even less likely) 3. Join the Amish and live without the corrupt mass media. Hmmm..

Come to think of it thats pretty much what i've done. I finally aquired a TV- it was given to me. But all i've ever used it for is watching the occasional movie and (mostly) for playing classical CD's. Dont know if kids would tolerate such an un-hip lifestyle; they might run away and join the Crips just so they could have their Facebook and thier Lady ga ga, or who ever it is this month...
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jf12
Occupying myself
12:20 PM on 04/08/2011
I don't know personally, but I've heard a lot of Amish type women, not men, use their cell phones for Facebook and Youtube and stuff.
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Sam1jere
Open-minded, sports lover, Red
11:37 AM on 04/07/2011
Still think it simply boils down to appreciation of who we really are - and understanding of who we are not. It's true that such beliefs about self start from home. It is where education should always begin. If self-confidence, self-belief, and related virtues can be taught to us early, it gives any human being a head start in life.

Life has nothing to do with competition (except with self) and comparisons. Margaret Thatcher didn't agree that her womanness took her to the UK PMship. She dwelled on merit and track record behind her. She was, simply put, the most qualified person to ascend to that position. That is the truth. All other "beliefs" that prevail (and have existed before) are myths that must be confronted.

Male or female statuses are accidents of birth, right there with ethnicity or features. They are not only non requested but can be overcome. The ultimate victory lies with imparting a good self image to the next generations, right from home. The need for mentorship cannot be overstated. Therein lies victory for any human being, not just females.

The article provokes debate. More though should be done, even exceeding the author's solid suggestions.
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writerforhire
11:10 AM on 04/07/2011
Jennifer Moses argues that the reason we mothers let our daughters "dress like prostitutes" is largely due to our own sexual regrets.

I think her statement is overly analytic and I argue the reasons are largely based on external circumstances.

Peer pressure, the fast forward fashion industry and the bombardment of product placement all play very clear roles in inundating our daughters with a “prostitute couture” belief.

Girls, I don't think, want to doll it up at ten and eleven and really look to the parent for boundaries. As this statement is met with gasps of “have you ever gone shopping with a ten or eleven year old?” indicates is that the child controls the parent and acts in ways she knows will trigger an immediate response and the parent will give in to her demands.

That’s an entirely different issue. Additional factors in allowing our daughters “prostitute couture” include our own de-sensitivity to the fast forward fashion industry who’s hoping to secure brand loyalty at a very early age, product placement from store windows to magazine kiosks and our own inability to put the brakes on. Public protests over sultry/edgy depictions have caused public outrage in the past that have resulted in the pulling of ads.

If one wants to stop Abercrombie & Fitch or other “prostitute couture” children/adolescents clothing designers don’t reinvent the wheel revert to the tried and true methods: Stage a public protest or modernized build a Facebook watchdog page.
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Josephine AcostaPasricha
professor, researcher, writer
09:40 AM on 04/07/2011
Greetings when cherry blossoms from Japan are in bloom on campus.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon was keynote speaker at the 5th Global Colloquium of University Presidents around the world on Gender Equality and Women Empowerment, as hosted by UPENN President Amy Gutmann. UN Undersecretary General and UN Women Director Michelle Bachelet also attended. Ban Ki-moon said that he is working for the increase of women workers in the United Nations to about 40% specially in middle management. Indeed, women workers, with their Ethics of Care, work best in post-disaster and post conflict situations like in Japan, Africa and the Middle East. Shall we, women, join and support the UN Academic Impact that has just been established recently?
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Randolph Greer
I am a Poet .
03:18 AM on 04/07/2011
As a man , far be it from me to have credibility on this , but this article is making a point I have been making all my life . I am 60 . I have had the great good fortune to have lived in the era in which women's roles in society have been completely changed for the better . However , this business of sexuality is completely out of whack with what women are as human beings . Young women must be taught from the very beginning about their female sexuality and that it is not supposed to be some artificial immitation of male sexuality or warped images taken off of television . Until women can ESCAPE this stuff , they will never find any comfort in themselves . When a man does something or says something , he does it or says it as a male . Women must be able to be female without having to compromise their humanity in the process . And this must be a natural existence as a female , being a female , and being proud and comfortable doing so . Whatever anyone's image of what a woman is ,it has to be discarded in favor of whatever singular image each woman chooses for herself . A woman is a human being first . Then she takes her sexuality and uses it when and how she chooses to do so.There should be no shame or false pride in either.
11:21 AM on 04/07/2011
Yes, we are all human beings first, but we're not just female and male.

We have both the feminine and the masculine natures in us.

Therein lives the beauty and completeness of who we are.
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jf12
Occupying myself
12:22 PM on 04/08/2011
Me too, 60 and all. But about women escaping - the majority consumers of mass media, all of it excpet sports, is women.
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Razpooten
Nil homini certum est
01:26 AM on 04/07/2011
Forget McFadden and Moses; read "The Sensuous Man" and "The Sensuous Woman."
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kadellagroove
Left leaning, Jeffersonian Whig.
10:18 PM on 04/06/2011
I poorly tried to respond to this article earlier and I think was misunderstood. so I'm gonna try again.

This is a good article, and I agree with its basic premise. I wrote about this subject a lot in college in-fact and tend to think that its one of those areas in society that is so murky that it often just is ignored all together.

One thing that I notice though in this article and in general is that whenever the subject of sexuality comes up it is often heavy on the female side. Men's sexuality is often only brought up as an illustration of "evil misogynistic men out to objectify women". the reason this is a problem is because sexuality is two sided. there are men and women, and together they create human sexuality. to ignore one side makes it quite difficult to adequately discuss the other side.

in the post feminist movement era I believe men are often very confused about their place in society . they are handed contradiction after contradiction growing up and are objectified in equal but different ways. and boys, I don't think are given nearly as much parental counseling on the subject.

if you do what is talked about in this article... without addressing male sexuality as well... don't you think you might be creating woman who could potentially just be easier pray for males who's sexual mindset hasn't been furthered in the same way???
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Razpooten
Nil homini certum est
12:32 AM on 04/07/2011
Hmmm, how about considering sexuality not as "two sided," but rathers as a multifaceted, complex human social interaction.
If one considers sexuality only as a reproductive function of human existence, then the mating rituals are reduced to mechanics.
The other facets to consider would be male/male, female/female sexuality.
How did David love Jonathan when he said?: " I am distressed over you, my brother Jonathan. Very pleasant were you to me. More wonderful was your love to me than the love from women." (2nd Samuel 1:26)
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kadellagroove
Left leaning, Jeffersonian Whig.
01:22 AM on 04/07/2011
"sexuality not as "two sided," but rather as a multifaceted ed, complex human social interaction n." - Yes, exactly... that is a much better way to put what I was getting at.

there are many levels to human sexuality and relationships.

Men have effectively been silenced in the age female independence. Anytime a man speaks from his own perspective, if it rubs against the grains of the new feminist ideal, it is seen as archaic or misogynistic.

And just as the article points out that girls feel their only way to express their sexuality is through superficial ways, so is the reality of men.

I feel that in many respects we went to an extreme to move past the problems of the past by trying to throw away everything male about being male.

I'm not saying that woman are now on top of the world, and poor me for being a man. not at all. I'm just saying that in the effort to empower and liberate woman we might have missed the mark in a few aspects, over shot, or just plain got some things wrong among all the great accomplishments as well.

After all... is the aim of feminism to eliminate masculinity? or is to allow both feminine and masculine aspects of human existence flourish in a fair, balanced, respectful and positive way which appreciating the differences between men and women?
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jf12
Occupying myself
07:59 PM on 04/08/2011
Presumably the women tended to be unpleasant to david.
01:13 PM on 04/07/2011
I Dont Know-

if it is due to nature or nurture. But in 40+ years of liking women I have noticed that the guys who DO objectify women, the guys whose goal is to get sex, get a whole hell of a lot more of it than those of us who are interested in women as whole persons.

Whether due to a kindly nature, timidity, or some warped byproduct of growing up Catholic, i have allways been willing to treat women as freinds. The results is, they almost allways call me when they need a shoulder to cry on, or they need somethin fixed. But someone else gets their hearts ( and bodies)

I am highly intelligent (MS degree) tolerably good looking, no major bad habits, been gainfully employed untill recently. But I am pushing 60 and never married. Cant help wondering if "nice guys finsh last" isnt largely true in the love/sex/reproduction game. Maybe women subconsciously prefer macho men, hairy chests and big muscles, because it would have been pro-survival back in the Ice Age, and the genes coding for that preference got passed on?
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kadellagroove
Left leaning, Jeffersonian Whig.
03:26 PM on 04/07/2011
This argument wasn't something that initially crossed my mind but it fits with my point very well and is also another example of a perfectly legitimate male perspective that often gets lost or turned into a joke.

this is extremely true, at least from a subjective, personal experience perspective.
I have a similar story. when I was younger I was more reckless and cavalier with women. saw them more as things and I had greater success. as I got older I started to see them as equals, treated them with respect etc... and I have now gone over a year without a 2nd date.

I don't think its black and white and I know there are a lot of different reasons and aspects for the way things play out but I also don't think its an uncommon story.

how does feminism play into it? what is the female perspective? I think these are all legitimate questions and discussions.
03:57 PM on 04/06/2011
Amen! Amen Amen AMEN!
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Gretchen Watson
By the way, that dress you are wearing is green.
03:07 PM on 04/06/2011
This is absolutely the most rational article about women's sexuality that I've read in a long time. It's time for real answers, and honest discussions, not the constant harping of those individuals who often impose their Christian (not the one and only religion) morality on all aspects of our lives.

Just fantastic!
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
03:02 PM on 04/06/2011
After the Hippies actually change gender roles, Nixon and the FBI targeted them and destroyed the hippie culture. So folks went back to the old rich stock trader in suits, and hooker with the heart of gold ala "Pretty Women" . That is the culture that your children are growing up in.
02:55 PM on 04/06/2011
Ms. McFadden's point here is well taken. As well, her exposition of the flaws in Jennifer Moses' thinking are right on point. As an African-American, feminist male, I have studied these dynamics as well and would offer that as long as young females are forced to define their achievements and actualization in terms constructed primarily by Caucasian males, they will always be behind the eight ball. I mention race here because it is more than important, it is dominant. African-Americans have little if any input into the standards of this culture--though African-American style and innovation pervades once the majority culture "appropriates" styles that promise global appeal. If there exists a glaring differential in those two cultures, it is that the dominant culture in America has little respect or reverence for its female citizenry. In a nutshell, people can rap about "bitches and hos" all they want, but most don't bring that mess home to Black mothers. And we should remember that seventy-five percent of all rap music is purchased by White males. Thank goodness that the African tradition vestigial in American culture (Hip-hop misogyny notwithstanding as it is a creation and distortion of Black familial teachings) defies this illogic. When more males stand up and acknowledge the insanity of marginalizing our mothers, sisters and lovers, we all will then benefit from a society approaching sanity. And race is not the focus unless it is the race to eradicate our unbelievably self-destructive behavior.
02:26 PM on 04/06/2011
I don't believe seeking sexual authenticity is a proper goal. Being an authentic person of good, honest character will mature and see life more objectively in a healthy way. This is not about self esteem; it's about being content in your own skin, first. Obviously women cannot throw all caution to the wind in a real world. The process of women and men sizing each other up is necessary before sex.
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Rasputin66
504 reppin and 504 steppin
06:56 PM on 04/07/2011
Why not just strive to be authentic in all aspects of oneself?
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jf12
Occupying myself
12:24 PM on 04/08/2011
Why not strive to be authentic to a call to become better?
02:15 PM on 04/06/2011
I about gagged on this line " I think the real problem is that dressing provocatively is one of the only outlets we allow our daughters to express their sexuality." We allow our daughters to do this? Maybe in your household you do but most parents act responsibly and insist they dress modestly and act responsibly. The same is true with young men. Good God parents, BE PARENTS... Your kids have enough friends.
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Razpooten
Nil homini certum est
12:36 AM on 04/07/2011
Exaclty, I remember the days when girls dressed like girls (children) not like sexual teasers.