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Judge H. Lee Sarokin

Judge H. Lee Sarokin

Posted: March 7, 2010 02:50 PM

Confessions of a Sentencing Judge

What's Your Reaction:

There is no worse nightmare for a judge than learning that a criminal defendant whose charges you have dismissed, or who you have released on bail or probation, or who has completed a term of incarceration which you imposed, has committed a serious crime. Fortunately, I never had that experience, but I certainly worried about it constantly. When it appears that a woman may have been raped and murdered by a known sex offender who was within the justice system, the family and the public's outrage is palpable and certainly understandable, as in the case of Chelsea King.

How does this happen? My experience has been solely in the federal courts, where few crimes involve acts of violence like murder and rape. But I suspect that most of the state courts operate in the same or similar fashion. First, let me assure you that it is nothing like the TV judges, who rap their gavel, impose sentence or render a decision in a flash and then say: "Next case."

Federal judges receive a life history of each defendant before sentencing -- their background, their education, their work and medical history, their criminal record, their family life, etc. In some instances, psychiatric evaluations are ordered and included. Letters are considered both for and against the defendant. In essence, it is a complete biography. Those probation reports were my nightly homework, and no decision required more thought and agony than a sentence to be imposed.

All of those facts contained in the report are measured against the crime committed, the applicable sentencing guidelines and the penalties fixed by law and recommendations made by the probation officer assigned to the case and charged with preparing the report. In my very first conference with a probation officer prior to sentencing, I told him that I thought his recommendation was off by 2 years. He immediately agreed with my proposal, and I asked to have him replaced. I told his superior that I needed someone that would fight for their recommendations, not cave the minute I expressed a different view. That independent sounding board is so essential to the process, and thereafter I had a highly dedicated and competent probation officer who stood his ground and justified his recommendations, although I did not always follow them.

But sentencing is far from a science. One of the reasons sentencing guidelines were enacted was to reduce as much a possible the discrepancy based solely upon the predisposition of the sentencing judge -- the tough sentencer v. the lenient sentencer. A sentence should not depend on which courtroom a defendant walks into. But the biography, the sentencing guidelines, the penalty standards based upon the crime committed, do not spew out a uniform sentence. A judge on sentencing day hears the arguments of counsel for and against incarceration and frequently statements of remorse from the defendant; sees the anger and hatred from the victim and/or the victim's family; observes the parents, wife and children (many brought to the courtroom as infants) of the defendant, reads of the public's cries for vengeance and punishment and the personal letters begging for leniency and attesting to the good character and good works of the defendant. We also think about rehabilitation and deterrence, although I understand that rehabilitation of sex offenders is unlikely, and we have no way of knowing whether the risk of punishment has any effect.

We are not God, but we play God in these moments. The understandable public reaction in cases such as Chelsea King is to execute, forever incarcerate or medically disable persons who are likely to re-commit such terrible acts. Balancing the need to protect the public within the limits imposed by the law and the Constitution is an awesome task for a judge. We hope we get it right and avoid the horrific tragedy of families like those of Chelsea King, but sometimes we fail in that undertaking despite our best efforts or because of limits imposed by the law.

 
 
 
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02:05 PM on 03/09/2010
Your honor--I appreciate your overall response to your Starbucks column--it is always a good sign when a person recognizes when a screwup occurs. What did surprise me is that you overlooked the fact that most of the proRKBA people here are reasonably well educated and would take offense at being portrayed as ignorant rednecks.
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07:19 PM on 03/08/2010
I confess: I'm your scrolling stalker. Seriously, thank you for allowing a peek inside the chambers of justice. So, this time I see I'm to put away my childish views of TV sentencing and make way for awed empathy at what our judges contribute to the safety and soul of the American way of life.

"Life is an aspiration. Its mission is to strive for perfection, which is self-realization. The ideal must not be lowered because of our weaknesses or imperfections."--Mahatma Gandhi

Thank you.
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09:31 PM on 03/08/2010
Smithn - I hope you will continue to be a "scrolling stalker". What I find so disheartening about the reaction to my post is that so many have this distrustful and disappointing view of our judicial system. I concede Gandhi's "weaknesses and imperfections", but there is a sense that we are not trying; that somehow it is corrupted and failing. Some of it is based upon actual experiences, some on rumor or disgruntled litigants, but much of it I blame on those "busy" legislators who can find nothing better to do than constantly criticize the judiciary-----activists, soft on crime, thwarting the will of the majority, etc. When our leaders are constantly tearing down the courts, I guess we should not be surprised that the country follows.
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11:07 PM on 03/08/2010
A Tea Partier confirmed this for me the other day:
Too many angst-ridden unemployed people have enough time to try out their newly discovered government "empowerment". She said, "It's thrilling." It's a paradigm shift similar to the sixties-- on Dick Armey-Sarah Palin steroids! Or, like a preschool full of "terrible twos" Hopefully, this intensity can't out last Obama's Cool!
06:15 PM on 03/08/2010
Very glad to see Judge Sarokin sharing his thoughts with us here at Huffpo.........I'd venture to say if all our jurists were as thoughtful and comitted.....we would have no need for rigid, non-discretionary sentencing guidelines..

Judge Sarokin correctly labels the specter of a defendant who has been the beneficiary of judicial discretion re-offending in a violent high-profile manner...a "nightmare". But it's a nightmare not just for the judge and the victims.

Such cases (understandably) fuel the public's anger with criminal violence.
Opportunistic politicians who offer the panacea of "mandatory Minnimums" and other "get tough" legislation find a receptive audience in a public largely unaware of the "nightmarish" consequenses of tying the hands of judges in future cases.

Removing the trial judge's discretion by statute merely TRANSFERS this discretion...usually to DA's and prosecuters...many of whom view their responsibility to see justice done as simply convicting the maximum number of defendants...and seeing that they recieve the maximum possible sentences.

The framers tried as much as possible "beyond the passions of the mob" for a reason.

To my mind, mandatory minnimums, three strikes laws, and all such attempts to remove discretion from the trial judge are inherently unjust...and when we as a society give in to the impulse to "lock 'em all up and throw away the key"............we become that mob.

Great post
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09:42 PM on 03/08/2010
TommyMcCarthy - I think you speak for most of the judiciary. Discretionary sentencing within the parameters set by legislation has now become the function of the prosecutor rather than the judge. Since most criminal cases are resolved by plea bargains, in essence, the prosecutors establish the sentence. I believe that Federal sentencing guidelines are no longer mandatory but still serve as a guide (although I have been out of touch for awhile). I assume many states have similar procedures. But I totally agree that 3 strike laws in many instances have been a total disaster, and have resulted in Draconian punishment in many cases that do not deserve it. I have tried to outline the many factors that go into sentencing and that great flexibility is needed to impose them. The judge with all of the facts is in the best position to decide. Some degree of uniformity is desirable but not at the price of imposing too long or too short a sentence than the one deserved for the specific defendant before the court.
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10:40 PM on 03/08/2010
You are absolutely right, Judge Sarokin. The judge with all the facts is in the best position to decide sentences.

We have the highest incarceration rate in the world and that's such a sad thing. Mandatory sentences have added a burden that I don't think anyone foresaw.

I always enjoy your posts and have come to greatly admire you through them.

Kindest regards,
Lisa
11:02 AM on 03/09/2010
Well put your honor.

In light of the many DNA exonerations in capital cases in recent years, there is no longer any doubt that innocent defendants can be and have been convicted.
Its hard not to conclude that, at some point before the advent of DNA testing, at least SOME innocent defendants were likely executed............to my mind the ULTIMATE nightmare.

If false convictions can occur in such numbers in capital cases,......
(where the advocacy and stringent review standards are presumably their BEST)...
can there be any doubt that many MORE false convictions occur in non-capital cases?

Turning over sentencing discretion (de-facto) to an overburdened prosecutor (even one of maximum good faith) emphasizes all the WORST aspects of the system. Coercive plea offers in weak cases, "jailhouse snitches" fabricating evidence....not to mention the danger to our police as they try to arrest offenders facing a "third strike" or the like......

Believe me, it is not ONLY compassion for the guilty that should give one pause when contemplating these issues.

If I remember correctly, we built and funded the justice and corrections systems, TO PROTECT US FROM VIOLENT AND DANGEROUS CRIMINALS.

Citizens who believe they are made safer by making it eaiser to not only "indict a ham sandwich".....but to convict and incarcerate one...... often forget one critical fact.

When an innocent defendant is convicted......the case is closed..............and the actual perpetrator continues to walk among us.................

Thank you for your response
All the best
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meldah
02:45 PM on 03/08/2010
Sentencing people who are guilty is not supposed to be easy, and as Judge Sarokin has adeptly articulated. My great fear, (and this one of the many reasons I would not make a good Jurist), is the innocent people who are charged and convicted. Take the numerous people who have been executed in Texas and later found innocent.

I have a question about the sentencing of Rapist and Child Molesters, why do these criminals get plea deals? This is a crime in which the victim get a life sentence and the reprobate gets a couple of years. Rape is not a sex crime, it not sex, it is violence. The victim doesn’t have the luxury of Forgetting. It is with that person day in and day out, the rest of life, colors the victims present and future, everything they will ever do or experience. The same with children who have been molested.

Furthermore, the Statute of Limitations should not apply to these crimes, (and I have read in many states does not anymore because of the advances in DNA). Rape is murder of the soul. No person or child is ever the same, never completely whole again.

I know that these are not Federal Crimes, Judge, but I would appreciate your take on this subject. Is it the fact that these Judges who give light sentences are men, and can never realize the effect this crime has? Many Judges are women, so that can’t be the reason. I’m perplexed.

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04:02 PM on 03/08/2010
meldah - What I have learned, is that no defendant's are quite the same. We treat the thief who steals to feed his family different from the one who does so to feed his drug habit, although the crimes may be identical. The effect on the victim is one of the myriad factors that a judge must consider. So-called "light sentences" are imposed frequently imposed because it is all that the law allows in those circumstances. There has been an ongoing debate for years whether judges should have wide discretion in sentencing or whether they should attempt to arrive at partial uniformity by the imposition of rigid grids that spell our the parameters. Frankly I always felt that discretion was more important than uniformity, but many well respected experts believe otherwise. Whether there is a difference in gender sentencing remains to be seen. My guess is that studies are going on at this moment. Furthermore we might be surprised to find that men are tougher on sexual offenders than women. We shall see. Thanks as always for your sage comments.
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NoMoFearNoMoHate
11:39 AM on 03/08/2010
"There is no worse nightmare for a judge than learning that a criminal defendant whose charges you have dismissed, or who you have released on bail or probation, or who has completed a term of incarceration which you imposed, has committed a serious crime."

Really?

Speaking solely to this first statement, I would have thought you would have said condemning an innocent person and thus wrongfully and directly destroying their life and those around them.
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Appleblossom
01:31 PM on 03/08/2010
You mean as William Blackstone once said “It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer”?

Considering the context this is written in, I understand why the Judge stated it the way he did. And there is no reason the two cannot be equally nightmarish, in fact I would consider them on par-in both cases someone innocent is harmed.
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09:49 PM on 03/08/2010
NoMoreFearNoMoHAte -You are right. Certainly convicting an innocent person is worse, but as I pointed out elsewhere, juries do the convicting, judges do the sentencing. But I do not minimize by whomever, that convicting an innocent person (and possibly executing one) is the WORST that a judicial system can do. I stand corrected. That is our "worst nightmare".
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09:27 AM on 03/09/2010
Thank you for your reply and for correcting my error. And most importantly thank you for sharing your hard-earned views and wisdom here. Your dialogue in this public forum is invaluable.
11:16 AM on 03/08/2010
I appreciate the article. However, Your Honor, according to DOJ's own statistics, sex offenders as a group have a significantly lower recidivism rate than offenders as a whole. This has been shown in several studies, and no serious study has shown the opposite.

Furthermore, treatment has been found to be very effective in preventing SO recidivism.

When enough people repeat an assertion as though it is fact, and the media amplify the assertion, we come to accept it as fact and make bad decisions as a result.
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04:04 PM on 03/08/2010
used-parts - I did not know that and appreciate the information. That's why these blogs should exist!
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08:39 PM on 03/10/2010
Is this true for the sub-category of sexual predatory crimes as well? I admit that I have done no research myself but have relied on popular media and have heard predatory criminal behaviors tend to have higher rates of recidivism. Could the commenter provide some guidance towards some more involved and scholarly research material? Thank you.
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Adartist777
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11:07 AM on 03/08/2010
I often worry about judges that allow district attorneys and prosecutors place innocent people in jail or people that have had their rights violated by rogue police officers that are incarcerated.

I also have a problem with judges that won't prosecute rogue police officers that continuously violate the rights of citizens and commit heinous crimes.

I also worry about judges that have special relationships with county sheriffs and outside business interests with private prison corporations and drug and alcohol assessment businesses.
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Adartist777
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11:15 AM on 03/08/2010
By the way, I have witnessed sarcasm from the bench and that also makes me uneasy.
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04:09 PM on 03/08/2010
Adartist777 - Sarcasm from the bench, to my mind, is a very good argument for TV in the courtroom---put a stop to some of these arrogant judges. My judicial philosophy was to treat the lawyers with politeness and respect, particularly so the losing parties left the courtroom feeling that they had had a fair and full opportunity to be heard. The winners always loved you. It was the losers that I carried about and whose respect I wanted.
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02:50 PM on 03/08/2010
Adartist -I am in total agreement for your concern of convicting the innocent. There are far too many cases in which, persons, particularly teachers, have been falsely accused of molesting children But those are the type of cases that are best resolved, and corrected if necessary within the appellate procedure. The decision to prosecute rogue officers is up to the prosecutors, however, and not the judge. We hear those cases that become before us. We do not originate them, although certain misconduct before the court can be referred to the prosecutor for consideration and action. Finally, judges should not have conflicts of interest which interfere with their sworn duties..The most outrageous being those judges who profited by sending inmates to a particular facility----particularly when the punishment was not deserved.
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Adartist777
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09:52 PM on 03/08/2010
Thank you for your comments Judge Sarokin. Not many article bloggers respond to the comments made on their articles.

I just wanted you to know that I live in western NC. One night, I was pulled over by an overzealous police officer with no probable cause. My person was searched as well as my car, then I was subsequently released at the scene of the stop.

Out of curiosity, I contacted the NC ACLU and several attorney groups dealing with justice issues about this incident. Many of my contacts have told me that this type of police procedure is common in rural areas of NC and that many police and district attorney's offices feel that probable cause should be ignored as a fundamental right of the average citizen.

My curiosity then led me to visit our local courthouse to see how justice was carried out in our small town. Many people apparently had been swept up in "fishing expeditions" by our police department and again, the lack of probable cause was brought up in many cases, yet this right was ignored by the judiciary and the district attorney's office, even though police dashcam evidence clearly showed that rights had been violated.

It does make you wonder where American jurisprudence is heading to in the future.
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Dolmance
10:52 AM on 03/08/2010
I have empathy for anyone who does the sort of work this judge describes. However, I have to wonder about the integrity and courage of anyone who sentences people to prison for having a drug problem, or doesn't have a problem with putting a mentally disturbed young child in prison for life without the possibility of parole.

Even if someone held a gun to my head, I don't think I could do those terrible things. And if I couldn't do it with a gun pointed at my head, I certainly couldn't do it to continue receiving a paycheck.
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Judge H. Lee Sarokin
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02:59 PM on 03/08/2010
Dolmance - You remind us all that the issue of sentencing to prison for minor drug infractions is a serious one facing the nation that needs to be addressed and re-evaluated. Our prisons are filled with drug dealers and drug users to which law enforcement commits an inordinate amount of time and prisons an inordinate amount of money. But have faith, restrictions are being placed on the punishment of mentally disturbed children, and at a minimum, the problem is being considered and evaluated with change likely. One of the problems of mandatory sentencing guidelines was that it interfered with judicial discretionary in avoiding draconian sentences.
09:56 AM on 03/08/2010
Very nice article, Judge. I think it is worth remembering that "fairness" is objective though, and thus based on perspective.

Most criminal defendants in the federal system are well aware that federal prosecutors have a conviction rate around 98% nationwide. As one of my professors, a former federal prosecutor, is fond of saying, that gives prosecutors a "big hammer" when negotiating plea agreements. To turn down such an agreement, the defendant basically has to either (a) be crazy or (b) have nothing to lose.

The federal criminal cases that actually go to trial have a reputation as being, largely, slam dunks. It seems that sentencing is really the main area where federal judges have ability to influence the fate of the defendant. Yet, by this part of the trial, most defendants must either feel blindsided by a conviction, or feel that they are in the midst of being railroaded by the justice system.

In your experience, how do you think defendants perceive federal judges? As an extension of the prosecutor's office? As an impartial thrid party? Their last hope? Also, how do you think that perception affects defendants' decisions and thus, ultimately, the procedure of the legal system?
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09:56 PM on 03/08/2010
zbrewha863 - I'd like to throw that question back at you and anyone else reading all this. I hope that federal judges are perceived as fair and impartial and free of influence of the U.S. Attorney's office. They are frequently the last hope through petitions for habeas corpus after all appeals in the state system have been exhausted.
09:54 AM on 03/09/2010
Thank you for the reply, Judge.

I feel that the fact federal judges are appointed for life, and not subject to reelection like state judges, should let them be perceived as more fair and impartial since they don't have to worry about reelection (and thus, as most state judges are worried about, being perceived as "soft on crime"). Unfortuneately, I think some federal judges see this as a free pass to pursue their personal agendas. I think some people see justices like Roberts, Scalia, and Sotomayor as pursuing their personal political agendas from the bench.

I also think that many people, including most criminal defendants, see the entire system (everything from the U.S. Attorney's Office to the Public Defender's Office to the Judges) as one machine designed to put people in prison. I have seen clients that are apprehensive, or outright refuse, to work with their public defender because they see them as part of the system, and therefore untrustworthy. I can only assume that they would perceive the judge the same way.

At the end of the day, though, I think that people look to the legal system for justice. No matter how jaded or pessimistic people are, they are still at least hopeful that they will find justice in court. To that extent, I think that they see judges as their last, best hope for justice.
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08:27 AM on 03/08/2010
"There is no worse nightmare for a judge than learning that a criminal defendant whose charges you have dismissed, or who you have released on bail or probation, or who has completed a term of incarceration which you imposed, has committed a serious crime."

I think the worst nightmare would be sending someone to prison and then later learning that he was innocent all along. Unless you regard that as worse than "learning that a criminal defendant whose charges you have dismissed" committed another crime, you are far too likely to convict the innocent.
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10:06 AM on 03/08/2010
Excellent point.
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10:19 AM on 03/08/2010
Dogger - I agree that convicting an innocent man would be worse. Of course judges do not usually decide the questions of guilt, juries do. I did not mean to suggest that the fear of a defendant committing a crime would influence a decision as to whether or not charges should be dismissed.
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07:52 AM on 03/08/2010
If you want to understand the politization of the justice system and how guilty or not guilty is not really the aim of the justice system, read The Autobiography of an Execution by David Dow.It is absolutely chilling how, even in death penalty cases, guilt or innocence is not on the list as a priority. The justice system isn't interested in sending guilty people to jail, just send someone to jail so the numbers tally up. I am not someone who believes that criminals are just misunderstood. I am someone that knows that poor people, black or white, have no chance at justice in this country. I like Judge Sorkin and worry a lot about serial violent criminals getting released too early or at all, but I would like to know that the same effort is given to actually being sure that the guilty party is the one who is charged. If you just nab anyone you can convict, then not only does an innocent person go to jail and possible death row, but there is a violent person still at large. DAs, Judges etc are not judged on whether the right result is reached, they're judged simply on how many people they put away and for how long. There is entirely too little attention given to doing it right.
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10:25 AM on 03/08/2010
thinkingwomanmillstone - I am sorry that you have such a poor opinion of our judicial system. It does not comport with my own experience. Judges care deeply about doing the right thing. I know that I spent my entire judicial career protecting the rights of the accused, and I am certain that my colleagues did the same. There is nothing worse than having an innocent person convicted, and we strive, if not always perfectly, to see that it does not happen. Indeed, we are often criticized for insisting on protecting the rights of the guilty.
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thinkingwomanmillstone
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11:55 AM on 03/08/2010
Did not Justice Scalia respond in his dissent in the Troy Davis case state that despite clear evidence of the defendant's innocence it would not be wrong for the state to execute a defendant.? I recently talked to a retired judge who was joking about scaring juveniles at sentencing that if they violated their probation she would put them in jail so that they could be raped. The is not the level of thought that you seem to think permeates the system. I have no doubt that your kind of judge exists, I fear that this other kind prevails. The current demonization of the lawyers who were appointed to defend the detainees in Guantanamo by the conservatives is further proof that the justice system is ,if not broken, certainly not working as it should. If I, as a middle class mother feel such despair, how do the disenfranchised in this country face the morass that is the justice system. I do know, that though I have never contemplated breaking the law, I am fearful of ever being even accused.
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BARRISTER
06:19 AM on 03/08/2010
America boasts that we have the greatest democracy and the Best Justice system in th World.

Where Judges and Prosecutors and Police benefit directly in monetary ways from the number of "convictions" and 'incarcerated persons"? Where prisons are private for profit Corporations dependent upon huge number of inmates for huge profits? Where in the 21st. Century there are Chain Gangs?

Judge, your fairytale does not reach the underbelly of the Beast.

The entire system is rotten.
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03:10 PM on 03/08/2010
barrister -I cncede the system has it failings, but from my own experience---imperfect yes---rotten no.
lastpost
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05:36 AM on 03/08/2010
“But sentencing is far from a science.”
To err is human. To aid, MRI?

“We are not God, but we play God in these moments.”
Do you suppose, H. That if god possesses a means to determine whether humans are resorting to untruths, he chooses not use it?
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10:28 AM on 03/08/2010
lastpost - Interesting---- but the metaphysical is far above my pay grade.
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05:32 AM on 03/08/2010
A couple of things to ponder, perhaps:

I would argue that sentencing is indeed a science; not one of the "hard" sciences but a "soft" science. Legal theory can be categorized under the behavioral and social sciences, can it not? The study of and application of these types of science are as varied and difficult to define in absolutes because of the varied and in-absolute nature of the targets of study: human beings. Not to mention the political interests involved.

The old adage that punishment, in order to be at its most effective, needs to be swift, certain and in proportion to the crime needs one more element. That is that the punishment also needs to consider accepted criteria regarding the likelihood of an offender to repeat the crime when released from incarceration. In the case of sexual predatory crime, it is generally accepted this has a higher likelihood of recidivism; therefore, I would argue that this type of crime warrants punishment requiring a greater degree of separation from society in whatever form that may take.
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09:21 AM on 03/08/2010
But how do you balance that with individual protections? Using statistics to condemn a person is a strategy that will fail at some point.
I agree that sentencing can be more scientific, but I think the proper unit of focus should be the individual and our entire justice system needs to be focused on determining who can be rehabilitated and how... and if it is not possible, what constraints are most appropriate, taking into consideration an individual's level of danger and to what extent the behaviors are created by psychological problems.
Perhaps once determined that a person will be a recividist in something so heinous, we must keep him incarcerated indefinitely. And certainly in a probationary period there must be some oversight, possibly some conditioning. But I think it's a mistake to develop sentencing to the extent that it ignores the individual being sentenced, instead looking at them as the manifestation of a crime.
02:12 PM on 03/08/2010
One of the basic aims of legal punishment is to do just that -- rehabilitate the defendant. However, there are other factors to consider. For instance, predictability and deterrance -- letting people know the consequences of certain decisions. The lack of a standardized punishment would mean chaos in the legal system, and in the country as a whole. Think of the times when you hear of one defendant getting a very harsh punishment and another getting a very lenient punishment for essentially the same crime -- now imagine that scenario applied across the board to every individual crime committed in the country.

A system designed solely with rehabilitation in mind ignores the aspect of free choice. When the vast majority of people commit crimes, they know (at least generally) the consequences of committing that crime. Even moreso if they are repeat offenders, which most criminals are, statistically. Most of these people choose to commit the crime because the benefit outweighs the risk of being caught, tried, and sentenced to them.

In a way, this choice may be negated entirely if someone is worried about being jailed indefinately for any crime they commit, but that scenario is as contrary to the spirit of justice as the alternative.
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03:16 PM on 03/08/2010
robbocoffee- You are right, and all of these considerations are valid. For instance can we treat the flasher---the man who exposes himself, the same as the rapist? They both may be sex offenders, but we must consider their propensity for repetition before we sentence them for life. Furthermore, limits of punishment are fixed by the legislature and the not the courts, The courts are bound to sentence within the parameters fixed by the legislatures.
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Appleblossom
04:29 AM on 03/08/2010
Being a judge can be incredibly rewarding and frustrating. It is good for the public to have a chance to hear from judges what goes on behind the scenes.
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10:30 AM on 03/08/2010
Appleblossom - Thanks. And I, in turn, learn from the comments.