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In Phase 2, Occupy Movement Needs a More Nuanced View of Capitalism

Posted: 02/21/2012 6:24 pm

As the Occupy Movement gears up for its next phase, I hope it can help give visibility to ideas that move beyond vilifying "corporations" and "capitalism" and begin to focus on the incentives and policies that create sub-optimal results from business and capital markets. We need a more nuanced view of capitalism to make progress.

Corporations may be "persons" legally, but they are not in reality. To bring about change, we need to influence real people, especially those who shape the incentives, such as compensation and tax policy, that drive the behavior of business people and investors. General protest is important and legitimate for lots of reasons, but it's not all that is needed.

For those in the Occupy movement who blame corporations for a multitude of woes, it's also important to remember that "we the people" represent the demand for cheap goods, sugary soda, and freedom to live the way we want, which is the ying-to-the-yang of unsustainable consumption of natural resources and energy -- the goods and services largely being delivered by "corporate capitalism."

Meanwhile, however, although the encampments may be mostly gone, the attitudes about business that permeate Occupy are spreading. Harris Interactive released its latest polling data for 60 leading companies this week, and Wall Street firms hit a new low.

The percentage of respondents with a positive impression of the industry fell to 17 percent from 22 percent a year ago. The only industry with a less favorable standing was tobacco. Bank of America, Goldman Sachs and AIG had scores so low they resemble the approval ratings of companies like Enron before they went out of existence.

The reasons for this fall from grace probably stem from a host of issues, but clearly trust -- or the lack thereof -- in Wall Street, business and ,increasingly, something called "capitalism" -- play a big role. Indeed, a meta-narrative seems to have emerged, promulgated by pundits and authors alike, who blame multinationals for many of our economic woes.

For example, in a recent speech to promote his book, Death of the Liberal Class, I heard Christopher Hedges argue that there are three types of capitalism -- the local kind, like the green market in the parking lot at the neighborhood church, the regional kind -- like the grocery store chain, and then, of course, corporate capitalism. He made very clear which one was the problem. Mr. Hedges is articulate, passionate, well educated and seems in command of his facts. Given his background as a long time correspondent for the New York Times with a degree in divinity, it seems like truth is on his side -- and he touches on the big issues.

He referenced rapid decline of species, yawning problems in public health, a deficit of jobs and economic security -- and tying it all together? The failure of government to act, given that "they" -- the corporations -- control the campaign coffers, a reality now made worse by Citizens United and Super Pacs.

The room was packed, and even on the Upper East Side of Manhattan -- where there are likely more investment bankers in residence than any other place on the planet -- there were bursts of applause at his recurrent theme: corporations are at the root of the problems we face in this country. There is nothing left to be done, given their influence in the political process, but take to the streets.

I share his concern about the issues. I see two problems with his analysis.

The first problem, to quote the cartoon character Pogo -- "we have met the enemy, and he is us."

But further, every boomer fortunate to have a 401k plan wants it to go in one direction only -- up. The drumbeat for high returns is the flip side of short-term behavior in business and finance that drives the most egregious behavior in markets -- from creating junk mortgages to products with social and environmental costs. Excoriating corporations isn't going to bring about the changes we need. We need to delve into the incentives and the decision rules that shape behavior of those on both sides of the table.

 

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As the Occupy Movement gears up for its next phase, I hope it can help give visibility to ideas that move beyond vilifying "corporations" and "capitalism" and begin to focus on the incentives and poli...
As the Occupy Movement gears up for its next phase, I hope it can help give visibility to ideas that move beyond vilifying "corporations" and "capitalism" and begin to focus on the incentives and poli...
 
 
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08:59 PM on 02/29/2012
Go Fish.
Price? … a few cents on the dollar.
Pump & Dump
1929
2008….Control the bubble…control the collapse.
Control the Money…Control the World.
Synthesize the bubbles then synthesize the depressions.
Low interest rate bubble bursts…then the 8 families buy the defaults pennies on the dollar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDYfyAQ8lUI
The Creature from Jekyll Island G.Edward Griffin
http://www.thrivemovement.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AZ15EsXRL8&feature=related
If corporations are persons capable of speech; do corporations have feelings too?
Because the feelings exhibited by MOST collective GANGS is “un-feeling” group psychopathy.
8 families own the monopoly over the global economy.
8 families manufacture debt with daily interest through the Federal Reserve and Central Banks.
The Federal Reserve System is the greatest con job in human history.
Does that mean they are ENTITLED to U.S. Government welfare without tax?
The 8 families and the 1% collect daily interest on usury?
That is the legacy of the elite to take without paying their fair share?
I know the elite believe in hell;
because the elite are creating hell right here on earth.
Turning U.S. into Mexican peasantry.
8 families own 70 trillion and control BIG OIL and the fortune 500 BIG companies.
70 trillion requires tax breaks?
Printing fiat federal reserve money instead of gold backed treasury note currency
in order to manufacture debt for U.S.?
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/who-really-controls-the-world
The World Order Eustace Mullins
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soli11
Stop mass incarceration. End the phony drug war.
08:07 AM on 02/27/2012
"But further, every boomer fortunate to have a 401k plan wants it to go in one direction only-UP." Well, this is the crux of the current economic problem, isn't it. Boomers started "retiring" last year, and will demographically be cashing in their wall street chips in exchange for food and medicine over the next twenty years. The only reason the stock market hasn't yet crashed in a big way is that boomers still are working and contributing pretax wages to the stock market. There must reach a point when they start taking out more than they are putting in. At that point, 401ks will show themselves to be the frauds that they are designed to be. The atock market is capable of making certain speculators wealthy, but it is NOT capable of ensuring a retirement with dignity to all seniors. Just watch.
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bbrown37
Wherever you go, there you are
01:34 PM on 02/22/2012
Normally I'd say a consumer-driven remedy to the current brand of corporate criminality would be a grand idea, but we've seen our government is ready to step in and hose-down these companies with our money anytime they're in risk.

If people keep taking money out of BofA (as an example) to the point where they are in any actual danger, the only precedent we have to go on says the government will prop them up with taxpayer money (as they have been) with either direct fund injection or access to cheap loans from the Fed.

Without actual criminal prosecution (where appropriate), there is no solution. Blaming average citizens, or asking them to share in the blame, is totally off the topic. Irresponsible consumers, at best, merely set the stage for the crimes that took place.
09:42 AM on 02/22/2012
Hey! Think tanks!
Eliminate the financial profit potential from public service then,
we can debate "nuance".
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08:56 AM on 02/22/2012
The Labor party was absorbed by the Democratic National party, the Civil Rights movement was absorbed by the Democrats, the Moral Majority in the 70's was absorbed by the Republicans and the tea party has also become absorbed by the Republican party.

The OWS will either become absorbed by the Democratic National Party or the Green party.
They will probably become absorbed by the Democratic National party in which case they will be given an office and some rooms at the National convention and allowed to sell tee shirts and hand out flyers. Their booth will be next to the "Save the whales" booth on level C.
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becky bradshaw
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth
07:48 AM on 02/22/2012
We face a horrible conundrum. Ms. Samuelson is correct. The people in charge of the status quo could play a positive role in reform. The problem is that our system plays a kind of Darwinist role in selecting the leadership of Wall Street, and Washington. It is survival of the most corrupt.

"It is difficult to see how Gandhi's methods could be applied in a country where opponents of the regime disappear in the middle of the night and are never heard of again. Without a free press and the right of assembly, it is impossible not merely to appeal to outside opinion, but to bring a mass movement into being, or even to make your intentions known to your adversary." George Orwell, Reflections on Gandhi
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Indigo1941
Time traveler.
06:58 AM on 02/22/2012
It's the other way around. Capitalism needs a more nuanced view of ethical behavior.
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sherlockhemlock
One world is enough.
06:41 AM on 02/22/2012
Humbug. Capitalism sucks.
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Salukeitis
12:58 PM on 02/24/2012
Capitallism NEEDS TO BE OVERHAULED like a banged up Lincoln. Nuanced my foot. The corporations will nuance YOU into the Atlantic and Pacific oceans. You will lose.
There is no compromosing with EXXON Mobile for example .Their year profits are 50 BILLION AND they get billions of incentives from the govt.
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Jill Press
04:12 AM on 02/22/2012
Who's this "we" you write about? What have you done that gives you the authority to tell people who've been demonstrating all over the world what to do? Do you really think 401ks are the highest priority for Occupy?

Not only do you patronize the demonstrators of Occupy, you tout your superiority to Chris Hedges, even though he, not you, makes sense and has well-earned credibility.

You have been to the mountain top and yet appear condescending and unenlightened. You want to use "nuance" to change the behavior on both sides of the table when one side has all the firepower? Sorry, Judy, In this struggle you have to pick a side.
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maninal2
Without knowledge action is useless
02:46 AM on 02/22/2012
So says the pro corporatist who must believe Romney's assertion that corporations are people
12:43 AM on 02/22/2012
Excoriating may not bring about the change...but disinvesting may...withdraw financial support from these corporate capitalists, move our money elsewhere, and boycott their goods and services.
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11:38 PM on 02/21/2012
You say: "Excoriating corporations isn't going to bring about the changes we need. We need to delve into the incentives and the decision rules that shape behavior of those on both sides of the table."

Meanwhile, those still tethered to reality note that "those on both sides of the table, (in question)" are ALL Government/Finance/Revolving Door people, batting mostly-imaginary paper back and forth, far out of the reach of influence of small investors, and then covering each other's butts, and bets, with out money--or imaginary money.

Save your: "Well let's be reasonable and blame the victims for, say, *half or so* of what went wrong."

Thousands of crimes were commited. They weren't commited by the victims. They will never be properly addressed under the guy who Wall Street installed as President in 2008. Which is why no one but two-headed boys and bearded ladies have been allowed to run against Obama *this* time.

Excoriating isn't even the beginning, Judith. We aren't buying what you're selling. Things are gonna change. And I don't just mean the way the same ol' boys do the same ol' business.
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11:37 PM on 02/21/2012
"The drumbeat for high returns is the flip side of short-term behavior in business and finance that drives the most egregious behavior in markets -- from creating junk mortgages to products with social and environmental costs."

I'm calling bullcrap. It was no drumbeat from small investors that led fund wizards to create and operate "products" that *stole vast sums of money from small investors.*

"Delving"?
That's your solution?
We need to "delve"?

Newsflash: Worldwide Financial Meltdown Found to Have Been Caused By Delving Deficit.
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Under Fed yet Fed Up
Always great distaste for both political parties
10:23 PM on 02/21/2012
Asking the OWS moveemnt to become contemplative, logical and deliberate is a high hope indeed. This diverse group will be very challenged to speak with unity. In fact, it may be unrealistic to even ask for unity.

The many valid and well reasoned complaints of OWS will always be mixed with a few extreme and simply crazy voices. It goes with the territory with any organization that operates without a central controlling body.
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12:38 AM on 02/22/2012
It isn't a regiment, it is a swarm.

You can't de-capitate a swarm.
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pciorlandosales
have come to chew bubble gum and kick ash
07:18 PM on 02/22/2012
Maybe it's the central controlling body that they are protesting against :/
10:19 PM on 02/21/2012
It is not capitalism the majority of Occupy is protesting againt, it is Corporatism. “Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.” Benito Mussolini
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pciorlandosales
have come to chew bubble gum and kick ash
07:20 PM on 02/22/2012
I think, even more fundamentally that the root of the issue is that we have congress members representing the likes of the Tea Party, and Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform instead of representing their constituency.