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Do You Intend to Work Forever?

Posted: 05/21/11 04:26 PM ET

To some, working beyond 65 may seem unnatural and carrying on into our 70s positively outré. But soon, according to the World Health Organization, holding a job on our 100th birthday won't be unusual. John Beard, director of the WHO's Department of Aging and the Life Course, says most people born in developed countries today can expect to live well past 100, with the onset of disabling illness delayed close to the end of life. "This means we'll be working into our 70s, 80s and beyond," he says.

Does that sound far-fetched? In fact, it's already happening. According to the RAND Corporation, 17 percent of American men and women aged 65 to 75 were in the workforce in 1990. Since then, the number has jumped to 25 percent, and a significant rise in employment among those older than 75 was also seen. What's more, RAND researchers project a sharp increase in these figures in the next decade.

Do you intend to work forever?

I asked each Ripe pioneer this question ("RIPE" is my new book, about rich, rewarding work after 50). Some talked about a finite period, as in "another 10 years." Others were uncertain. Social innovator Rosa Lee Harden said she'd recently seen her good friend, Phyllis Tickle, who at 77 continues to write and give speeches around the world. "I confided to her that I was thinking about doing one more thing before I retired. 'Retire?' she laughed. 'You're 55. What are you talking about?'"

The vast majority of Ripe pioneers said they will always work. They're not just postponing retirement but eliminating it as an option altogether. In this, they echo many of the high-profile people who are on this journey with us -- can you imagine Barbra Streisand, Robert Redford or Christopher Plummer coming to a complete stop? As Peter Frampton recently told Oprah Winfrey, "The 'R-word' isn't even in my vocabulary."

It's something Jerry Morris believed wholeheartedly. Just after World War II, he led a study to examine heart-attack rates in different occupations in England. The results showed a striking difference in transit workers -- sedentary drivers were twice as likely to die of a heart attack as the conductors who went up and down 500 steps a day.

Morris proved that exercise helps you live longer. And it worked for him. At 99, he was still making his way each day to his office at the London School of Hygiene and Medicine, and lobbying government to encourage people to take up regular physical activity.

As we move into our 70s, 80s and beyond, the terrain changes. How do we navigate the new landscape and continue to ripen? More on this -- including examples of people like us who've ripened after 60, 75 and 90 -- in the weeks to come.

Are you over 50 and ripe for change? Are you feeling at the top of your game? Are you finding that the world wants you to go away? Share your story with us below or feel free to email me via my website.

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"RIPE" is here! This spring, I'm writing about "RIPE: Rich, Rewarding Work After 50," a 12-week course on discovering passion, purpose and possibility at midlife. Check out the video (a.k.a. book trailer!):


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dbrett480
02:18 PM on 05/25/2011
There are many jobs in which people can probably work forever; but the critical jobs should have an age limit. Do we really want surgeons, cops, pilots, firefighters, soldiers, etc. working in their 70s or 80s?
08:41 PM on 05/23/2011
julia,the point I was trying to make is that there are people who can not work.
01:35 PM on 05/23/2011
Retirement? At 50 after putting 2 kids through college, and with my youngest just starting high school, I need to work two jobs just to keep a roof over our heads. In my imagination, I foresee a day that I can work part time, and have time to do for myself, like writing, but for now I can only do what my employers, my spouse and my child need me to do. I KNOW my time will come, it has to, but for now I need to be happy doing for them. I have one idea that would make things so much better, but just can't get anyone to listen to me. What Congress needs to do is to pass a law making the day 32 hours long. Maybe then I could get that 8 hours of sleep that I should be getting.

*smiles* Just letting off steam there. I fully expect to be working at 100 and beyond. Doing things that I love.

Blessed Be
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
06:06 AM on 05/24/2011
'Doing things that I love' - oh, yeah. That's the secret, isn't it? I'll be there, right alongside you, working - because it's what I need to feel fully alive. Thanks, Mirame Emor, for sharing your story (and we like a little venting now and then!).
04:59 PM on 05/22/2011
julia,what are your feelings about Social Security,what about people with Alzheimers,they can't work.'
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
05:49 AM on 05/23/2011
hi, social security is beyond what i'm talking about! my book is about people who want to continue to work. please read more of my columns or - here's a thought! - buy my book. don't make this a political discussion in which i become the bad guy who wants to make the helpless and ill work. thanks, lauraj400
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Vajara
vajara
08:20 AM on 05/23/2011
If you care about your elders, do support them and take a stand--courage, strength and openness is an important message for those of us who continue to work and if your book is worthy, people will buy it.
01:06 PM on 05/22/2011
What about people like me,who are disabled and can't work?
09:45 AM on 05/22/2011
I'm 57 and I retired from my full-time teaching job this year. Now I'm working part-time as a teacher, I feel much better physically and emotionally, not so stressed out.
I consider myself " semi-retired".
Less than 6 months after retiring from this full-time position, I'm starting to have ideas about what else I could do, I've been thinking of creating a website for tutoring, this way I could tutor even when I'm traveling, because I want to be more mobile.
so, this next chapter is only beginning , but I see lots of possibilities, life is good.
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
10:39 AM on 05/22/2011
'I see lots of possibilities' - I love that attitude. It's hard to find our way -- we truly are re-making this phase of life (our parents' generation, for instance, retired and then volunteered or golfed). The paths forward are starting to emerge, thanks to people like you.

And it's not just the way, but the spirit. I see people every week as a coach who think life is over at 55. We were sold a bill of goods. It's not the end of the road, but a new beginning! Keep writing, sunflower12. We want to know how it goes with your new venture(s).
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Idaho dachnik
meliorist goat lady
09:11 AM on 05/22/2011
So what's to be done with the multitudes of people who need to retire early because they are so out of shape and broke down physically?
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
10:37 AM on 05/22/2011
You raise an important issue. Let's break it down. On the 'out of shape' front, it's never too late. My first yoga teacher was 58 when she started and in her 70s when I studied with her (LOL, i thought she was ancient!). We need to keep moving our bodies.

Those of us who have illnesses, chronic ones, will need to find new paths forward, for sure. I've struggled with a condition that left me unable to sit for more than a year, yet I continued to fly across the continent giving speeches (i'd ''walk' the entire distance, up and down the aisle). I'm not in any way suggesting that people who need help get it. Just that the millions of us who are able need to keep going. And that the very act of doing will bring us back to LIFE.
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
08:27 AM on 05/22/2011
Took early "retirement" at 62 and founded and directed a non-profit, no-kill pet rescue on my two acres in UT for 10 years. Worked harder during that "retirement" than I ever did at a paying job but had such a feeling of satisfaction from the work. On-call for emergencies 24/7 - daily work with every type of animal from llamas and horses to gerbils and parrots in snow and ice, summers hot.

Second "retirement" at 71 when I moved to AZ and turned the rescue over to others. Now volunteering with a rescue group and also at Salvation Army. Now have time for family and friends to visit and enjoy time together, work in my veggie garden and yard, meet new people at my volunteer work, read, swim in summer and bike in fall and winter.

Money is tight but you "make do or do without", as I was taught. Life is good!
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
10:33 AM on 05/22/2011
Love it, love it, love it! Trying new things, stretching, growing - it's all good. So much for 'retirement', eh? Thanks, AZreb. Keep writing to us so we can hear more!
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
03:11 AM on 05/22/2011
I hope not to be around that long for one thing, but it may not be a matter of "intending" to work past retirement age, but having to - if I can - because I need the money. The aged pension here is below poverty level and I'm none too sure how much I'll get from my superannuation.
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Julia Moulden
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08:01 AM on 05/22/2011
yes, french queen13, many people will have to keep working because they can't afford to retire (i'm wondering what new services will pop up to meet the needs of this group -- for instance, i'm working on a column about housing for seniors). happily, work is good for us. it's what we need if we want to continue in good health, mentally and physically. we need to be active and engaged. and progressive companies are starting to catch on to the value of an experienced workforce...
01:32 AM on 05/22/2011
Work causes cancer. I've been trying to avoid it all my life and have been pretty successful. I had my last wages job in 1980 as Assistant Coordinator, New Housing Development, Chicago Housing Authority. B52 aircrew, policeman, Vietnam vet, actor(mostly in real life), author, tv producer, politician, businessman. All soft assignments.
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Julia Moulden
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07:58 AM on 05/22/2011
yikes. a whole lotta working people are going to disagree with you about the cancer part!

like you, i've been an adventurer all my life -- sounds like you've had a great life so far. do keep sharing your story. we want to know more about how you found your way - and what you're doing now!
11:26 AM on 05/22/2011
But I haven't found my way, I'm still trying to figure out what the hell's going on. Never planned more than a year in advance. Frequently changed escalators--unfortunately some of them were heading for the basement.

Veteran of 2 wars, 2 great wives (1 English royalty, 1 French royalty), 4 good children all healthy, successful, sure of themselves and relaxed in the world, although one insists I was a lousy dad. Eldest daughter is the senior writer for American Medical News. Eldest son is directing his first film from one of his stories, has published 12 books, occasionally teaches at Stanford, has a book club, is a cult figure; Vanity Fair called him "genius", Publishers Weekly calls him "America's most underrated writer" (so I guess that makes me America's most underrated dad, and Lucky America's most underrated dog). Youngest daughter is on an archeological dig in Roumania and has translated ancient texts in the Vatican for the Pope. Youngest son is a medic in the army and a policeman, and will be leaving for Afghanistan. (continued)
11:27 AM on 05/22/2011
(continued)
I starred in my first movie when I was 5, and partial memoir is on file with the Museum of Broadcasting History. I am a great- nephew of Simon Frug, the last National Jewish Poet under the Tsar Nicholas. I have published 40+ books, hundreds of articles and stories in 11 languages around the globe. Listed in CONTEMPORARY AUTHORS. My last book was THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF JESUS CHRIST as told to Neil Elliott (dat's me). Recently I re-wrote WAR AND PEACE just for the hell of it. I mentor a lot of young guys--helping them with their careers, romances, finding themselves, etc. I even write their medical school applications. I winter in Panama City Beach. People always say I should write my memoirs but I probably won't. Though one young guy is compiling a book of my "wit and wisdom": If anybody can find out what the hell's going on, please notify me. Is there a life after bIrth?--Neil Elliott
12:37 AM on 05/22/2011
Hi, Julia!
Really enjoying your book.
Best wishes!
Kim in Munich
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
07:57 AM on 05/22/2011
wunderbar! so glad you're enjoying it. keep writing and sharing your thoughts. will share your story (kim is a RIPE Pathfinder) in a future column.
08:53 PM on 05/21/2011
I taught for 25 years and then budget cuts encouraged older, more educated and experienced teachers to early retire so younger teachers would not be cut. Best move I ever made. I am starting my second year of Culinary School with the intention of becoming a Licensed Dietetic Technician working to help improve food in facilities. I am also starting a Yoga Teaching training class in July to become a certified Yoga teacher and work with plus size, older and less mobile people. I made A LOT of changes to my life--we only have one car--I use public transportation. May not buy everything and go everywhere buy life is much sweeter when we have control. I never plan to quit working. Maybe work less--but not leave the job market completely. You rest--you rust.
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
07:56 AM on 05/22/2011
you rest - you rust. love that!!

what i love most of us is that you're out there, trying new things, stretching yourself (literally with yoga!). that's the secret to ripening - it's all about building on our lifetime of experience and exploring new passion. your life sounds amazing (and, yes, even the consumer limitations). do keep writing -- we want to know what happens!
01:21 PM on 05/22/2011
Great post, Cherylanne, there's a lot to be done after teaching. Since I've just retired, I'm still in the process of figuring out what to do , I feel like a 57 year old child in a candy store, the pension that I get, even though it's small, it allows me to have more control of my time, I can have a better life now, better balance between work and fun.
I'm enjoying this new chapter in my life, waking up every day to new things, new possibilities that I'm creating for myself. Before I didn't have time for any of this, teaching consumed my days.
07:57 PM on 05/21/2011
I quit when I was 47 and moved to a small apartment in a working class community in southern Mexico. I live off my savings and a small pension. Don't have a lot but don't need a lot. No regrets. Still enjoy my life very much. There is more to life than work. But, to each his own.
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
07:53 AM on 05/22/2011
peckerberto. yes, what you're talking about is a trend, too. just packed up a friend who's moving to thailand in her 70s 'cos it's nice and warm -- and cheaper than here.

will be interesting to see how many of you retirees find that you're restless and want to get back to work. taking a break for a bit is good (and necessary!), but the research shows that staying active and engaged are essential to successful aging. please keep reading -- and sharing your thoughts!
11:40 AM on 05/22/2011
I've been here nearly 14 years and SS starts next month so life will be even easier. Don't feel a bit restless. I lend money to my neighbors interest free to help them out. So far they have always repaid me. But, for the most part, I keep pretty much to myself. Guess I'm one of the exceptions to the research. I'm content.
07:08 PM on 05/21/2011
Teachers, college professors, lawyers, doctors, judges, engineers, and many other professionals are blessed with jobs that are, for the most part, fulfilling intellectually and not too physically demanding. As my moniker indicates, I've completed 43 years of public school teaching this year. I plan, like many other professionals, to continue working as long as I am physically and mentally capable...and as long as I can make a difference in my student's lives.

And for those that think that I should make way for younger blood... I've been witness to the skills and talent this younger blood brings to the table...and am quite unimpressed for the most part. It still takes three years to begin to know what you're doing and about and 5 to 10 years to develop the skills that good teaching requires...if you can last that long. Most leave long before their skills have time to develop to the "good teacher" level.
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
07:51 AM on 05/22/2011
43yearsateacher, you've raised such a critically important point. Met with an ad agency guy this week (ad business is famously youth-oriented) who said, 'every ad agency needs one 50-year-old' Why? 'because they need someone who is the voice of experience.' It's a truism that's going to start gaining momentum. I can think of endless examples of where having a healthy mix of older and younger people will enrich the workplace. More on this in a future column. Thanks for sharing -- and for being a RIPE pioneer!
GHarry
Kitty wrangler
06:31 PM on 05/21/2011
I suppose we can expect a flurry of media reports about how "fulfilling' work is for older people now that the Establishment is determined to slash Social Security and Medicare benefits. The hard truth is that most older people with jobs aren't working to be fulfilled, they are working because they have to work to survive. The cost of living is steadily outpacing most pensions, and the trend is likely to get worse in the years ahead. While it's fine that some folks find satisfaction in their careers later in life, most older people, after working decades at jobs that drain and cripple them physically and mentally, certainly don't look forward to keeping up that pace into their '70s and beyond. The embryonic plans to balance the federal budget on the backs of America's oldest and poorest citizens are despicable, and fair-minded Americans will oppose them.
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skylark
Tangled up in blue..
07:15 PM on 05/21/2011
Agree with you. Would add that employers refuse to be flexible as far as hours and working conditions go. So, it's not as if an employer would allow a 70 year old employee to keep a reduced hour schedule, or a flexible schedule. I think part of the reason that companies like the 20 somethings so much is that they can work 12 hour shifts without damaging their health, but that's not usually the case with the over 50s. At least that's the way it's been at my workplace.
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Julia Moulden
Author, speaker, columnist
07:49 AM on 05/22/2011
Ah, well, things are changing, GHarry and skylark. Let's not be too hasty...

Progressive organizations are indeed recognizing both the value of experienced older workers and taking steps to recruit and retain them. BMW is just one example. They've created an entire plant where the only employees are those over 50.

Work is good for us as human beings. We were not designed to coast for the rest of our lives. We're going to re-make this phase of life because yes, many of us need to keep earning, and because it's good for us, our children, and our world. Please keep reading, both of you -- and commenting!