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Parents Of Estranged Children Offer Advice

Posted: 02/11/2012 11:47 am

I sat with Susan, a petite and lively 85 year old and talked about growing up in the rural south, her work and her two marriages. Susan, despite a daunting array of health problems, is a funny, lively person. She likes a drink or two and enjoys her activities with friends in her assisted living community.

But the atmosphere changed in an instant when I asked her, "What advice would you give for having a good relationship with your grown children?" Susan became very still, holding her breath. Then words nearly exploded from her, and she pounded her hands in frustration on the arms of her chair.

I don't know, I don't know! I did something wrong, I'll tell you right now! Because I don't hear from either one of my kids. I don't even -- I never hear from them. And it hurts like crazy. Why do you think that is? Do you have any idea?

Susan did have a possible explanation for the estrangement from her children:

I think when I married the second time it was such a different life, it was such a different life from what we had lived before. And I was so occupied, and we went all the time, and my life was so busy so I lost track of them, being close to them. They weren't exactly unhappy about it; we just had nothing in common anymore. And after I married again -- I don't think they really resented my second husband, but they just didn't have anything in common.

I think that's where it began. But I do wish I'd hear from them more often now, yes I do!



By the time I ended the interview, Susan had recovered and was back to telling me colorful anecdotes about her long life. But I've never forgotten the anguish in her voice as she told me: "I did something wrong ... And it hurts like crazy."

Among the saddest people I met in interviews with older Americans for the book "30 Lessons for Living" were those living in this situation. The destruction of the parent-child bond was a persistent source of melancholy, a feeling of incompleteness that weighed down the soul. And the one failed relationship is not necessarily mitigated by having warm, fulfilling ties with other offspring. Almost all of the elders who found themselves with one child who was "lost" to them or with whom there was "bad blood" felt unresolved or incomplete. Such feelings only became more acute as they neared the end of life.

Fortunately, the elders interviewed for the project offered suggestions from their long experience for avoiding family rifts or patching them up before they occur. Here are several of their tips:

See the potential rift early and defuse it.

The elders acknowledge that once the rift sets in, it takes on a life of its own and becomes much more difficult to repair. The time to act is when the first warning signs show themselves. Martha, 74, who had a major blow-up with her son and daughter-in-law, said: "I should never have let things deteriorate the way they did. Looking back, I could see problems brewing and I couldn't hold back from criticizing my daughter-in-law." Parents of adult sons and daughters need to ask themselves: Is the battle worth it? The elders told me that usually it's not.

Act immediately after the rift occurs.

The elders warn that the viewpoints of both parties harden quickly; in a relatively short time it becomes easier not to make the effort to reconcile than to try to do so. The new reality sets in fast; therefore, the time to "make things better" is as soon as possible after the blow-up.

Janice, 72, spoke about her problems with her daughter Gloria: "After our big fight, I should have had a heart-to-heart with Gloria right away. After a week or two, we were both so angry -- and I guess hardened -- that it was terribly difficult even to start a conversation."

In contrast, Maria, 82, was very disappointed and angry at her son, because he would not help Maria care for his father during his last illness. But she decided to act as soon as possible. She sat down with him and told him exactly how she felt, allowing a reconciliation to take place. "It's worth it," she told me, "not to feel like I might lose what I have that's good with my son."

It's often the parent who needs to compromise.

I am well aware that this sounds unfair; however, in my review of the accounts of intergenerational rifts, it's usually the parent who pays the higher price if a rift occurs. Older mothers and fathers tend to invest more in the relationship as they get older and therefore stand to lose more by letting it disintegrate. Particularly acute is the separation from grandchildren that can occur as a result of the rift.

Many elders recommended that parents try their best to "forgive the unforgivable." Some have had the worst happen, stood on the brink of the rift and decided that it still wasn't worth the end of the relationship with the child.

So here's a key life lesson from America's elders: Avoid the rift. Of course, it is possible that a child's behavior is so damaging or dangerous for a parents' physical or mental health health that separation is needed. But the elders tell us that rifts usually occur over less extreme matters that seem important at the time but are almost never worth the pain of separation when you reach your later years.

 

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11:35 PM on 02/13/2012
The parent-child relationship is so worth trying to preserve. If there has been hurt, one will never regret having tried to bring about healing.
08:49 PM on 02/13/2012
There is no perfect parent, as there is also no perfect child.
All I can do as a child is forgive my parents for not being perfect, forgive myself for not being a perfect child or parent and try with all my heart to just love and forgive inspite of the pain.
I can not control how others will act or not act. Healing takes time.
05:52 AM on 02/13/2012
Birthday card from my mother:
Stacey- Happy Birthday! The Sorority people miss you. Love, Mom
P.S. You were never put to bed with a strange man. The only strange man in our lives was your dad.

What???? (She was told over 20 years ago that on a family boat trip on a friend's boat, I was told to take a nap with a man I did not know -by her. He molested me. I was 5 years old. She basically handed me off to that guy.) One response to this letter was, "She's basically calling you a liar!" Yup. She is. Why would I want to continue having a relationship with someone who insists on minimizing my pain so that she can create more? That would be masochistic. Sometimes the parent makes a mistake and needs to just ask for forgiveness and try not to repeat the error. In this case my mother doesn't feel she is in error. Therefore, she doesn't get to speak with me.
12:11 AM on 02/13/2012
Respect on both sides must be present. The adult offspring and elderly parents must each be willing to really listen to each other and appreciate the roles they both play. Too often neither party is honestly willing to be kind or tactful during disagreements. While it is best to try and respect the elderly, advanced age does NOT excuse cruel words or actions. Sometimes the only recourse is to avoid contact with poisonous people, whatever their genetic relationship may be to you. This is, of course, sad- but true.
11:30 PM on 02/12/2012
As a parent of two children and one step son I see that happening to our family. My husband and I have two children together and my step son lives in another country. We have had little contact and little togetherness. my husband makes yearly trips to see his son and has seen him 5 times in 11years. my husbands ex only lets their son see his dad on her time. I understand that is an event when my husband visits yet the my husband and his son should be able to see each other. the visits also have to be w her there that is also ok however please dont cancel an hour before after traveling 1300 miles, my kids have never seen there brother . I am heartbroken and my husband is trapped we have not seen or heard from my step son in almost a year. I hope for a break in the cycle were everyone can be together and be decent so we dont have an 18 year old tracking us down with un answered questions and a father who sooooooooo badly wants just to have his 3 kids in his arms TOGETHER! i KNOW THAT FAMOLIES CAN DO THIS BECAUSE MY STEP PARENTS AND PARENTS DID IT FOR ME AND MY SIBLINGS
09:29 PM on 02/14/2012
The custody issues when the parents live in different countries are certainly a nightmare. Perhaps the next time your husband goes to visit his son all of you can go, not just your husband? Or at least your husband can take his two younger sons to meet their brother? Regular face to face talks can be done via the internet- there are a lot of good, affordable programs that will let one chat via webcam. Maybe your husband could provide his sons with the technology so that more communication, even if it is only virtual, would be possible. I hope your family situation becomes happier.
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11:14 PM on 02/12/2012
It's obvious by the comments that there is a tremendous amount of hurt and disconnect between adult offspring and aging parents. Odd how most seem to be mothers on the older end. Mothers have so much control over our lives from birth, maybe it's difficult to let go of that control once children reach adulthood.

It's against the principles of mothers to admit being wrong. They would rather cut off all ties than to say they are sorry, and really mean it.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
09:52 PM on 02/13/2012
If the child doesn't speak to you how can you apologize when you have no clue what you've done? I called and texted a few times and got no reply.

After many years of misery I divorced the man I married because my sons begged me to do so; he is such a wonderful father but had an unfaithful mother and wife so I feel I didn't have a chance to begin with. I didn't know these things when we married. Ironically, he says they aren't answering his calls either.

My sons had been very encouraging about my starting a new life (I'd been legally separated 4 years), asking me to long visits frequently. I am seeing a man now who I've known all my life and we are very happy together so that has to have something to do with it - but they won't even talk to me.
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11:16 PM on 02/13/2012
Search deep, you can't possibly be completely clueless. In conflicts with grown offspring, it almost always has something to do with the mother, and it always seems the mothers feign innocence and ignorance to the problem.
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eilish
Life ain't like a box of chocolates
11:55 PM on 02/13/2012
So, you don't think I've searched through every memory I can think of?

Mid-July they had me come to enjoy their birthday gift of Harry Potter marathon week, then said I might as well stay into September since they needed a house and dog sitter while they vacationed. I cooked and cleaned while there as usual, spent lots of time away with friends and left the youngest's house in gorgeous order for his return.

They gave me a lovely barbecue with local family & friends when I left to attend my divorce court. Now we're not speaking?

You may think you're an expert but this one's got all my close friends baffled. If I knew what I was supposed to be sorry about, I might.

I had severe lupus for 17 years, been negative for 5. It may be that they're afraid I'll get sick again and think they'd be stuck caring for me even though I chose a long-term facility years ago. Who knows?
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11:10 AM on 02/14/2012
Why not ask your children? Send an email or letter.
11:09 PM on 02/12/2012
I had one daughter who was the apple of my eye. As a child, I enlightened her to the arts, private schools, and the finer things in life. She was beautiful, smart and talented. I divorced when when she was ten, and her father told her she didn't need a Mother, because he could provide and take care of her, as a Mother/Father role. Years later, when my daughter married, had a little boy and then twin girls, I was ecstatic to be a grandma. I was at the birth of all the grandchildren wearing my hospital garb. Fast forward, my grandson is five, the twins are three, and two years have passed and my daughter refuses to let me see my grandchildren and has told me I was a lousy Mom and a lousy Grandmother. My grandson and I used to have so much fun. My daughter calls the shots and is very strict with her kids and her very successful husband. Even the in-laws are afraid to say something to her and their own son. I have written so many e-mails, sent her cards, sent birthday gifts to the grandkids, with no thank you's. I live near her and the days are flying by
with no light at the end of this horrible tunnel. My grandkids will never even know their maternal grandmother.
tccat4
We all have a right to our opinion, like it or not
03:50 AM on 02/13/2012
They will be old enough to make their own decisions, so there is hope, as for your daughter, you did everything right. Send them the cards, or keep them and one day with they are of age, hand them the pile you saved for them, or put everything in a special box, and give it to them. You can't change your daughters mind. Don't try... Just know that you did the best you could and live with that.
01:47 PM on 02/13/2012
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I do have some stuffed animals and dolls that I bought for the grandkids and will probably hold on to them rather than sending it to them. They might land up in the garbage. I have photographs right from their birth too. It is very hard on holidays, birthdays, and special occasions. I cannot go into a card store with all the other people buying cards for their loved ones. If I pass on, I do not want my daughter to attend my funeral, if she and I were not speaking. I wish there was a law that allows grandparents visiting rights in Florida to see their grandchildren.
10:36 PM on 02/12/2012
I am a senior citizen now and my mother is still living. I have never been close to my parents I have actually avoided them even as a child due to fear, abuse and their negative outlook. I worked to make my life positive and avoid turmoil. My mother treated her mother very poorly and I did not want my son to experience that between my mother and myself.
My parents did spend a lot of time with my son Unfortunately mother used her time with my son undermining my efforts and I was not aware until too late. My relationship with my son has deteriorated over the years and is not what I want it to be. No specific incidents occurred. The stress of all this coupled with a trying life has taken a toll on my health. But it is the relationship with my son that has left me deeply broken. I have no new ideas or skills with which to improve the situation and avoid making the situation worse. I resolve myself to step aside and let things be and be happy to know my son has a wonderful family,they are all healthy and successful.
08:53 PM on 02/12/2012
Good Article.
06:36 PM on 02/12/2012
When you apoligize to your daughter for petty stuff (2 ) time .+ you help her gt car ,furniture ,clothing etc & she still treat you lik a freezer . You apoligize to try & keep the family togeather . She give you huggs @ the churc in other peopel presence .Behind closed doors ,I hugg her & say I love you she stand there with her arms in limbo .I ve taken her in my home 2 time ,during the time of devorace & when she was sick .i don't know what too do .I thought we were BONDED . This just recently happened .She treat every one better than me .I am the only true friend that she will ever have . Need advice .
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11:08 PM on 02/12/2012
I suggest you absent yourself by going on extended trips which please you and spend, spend, spend. When they see a threat to their inheritance they get really curious.
11:37 PM on 02/12/2012
I think it's time that you start taking care of yourself. Your daughter sounds selfish and she's not going to change as long as you keep enabling this type of behavior. Expect more, and if she doesn't come around, at least you have some self respect.
06:29 PM on 02/12/2012
If you don't want your kids to be estranged, try actually having a relationship with them. My parents are divorced and my father always calls me up around Christmas and tells me, "I miss you and really want to have a meaningful relationship with you. Well, I'll call again in 364 days. Bye!" What's sad is that this is the busiest day of the year for me (you know, spending time with my own wife and children) so I never really have time to sit down and talk on the phone on Christmas day.

It's one thing to feel bad about not connecting but it's another thing entirely to actually make the effort to do it. (I suppose I could be considered guilty of doing the same thing, but I'm not the one lamenting about wanting to connect. He was absent most of my childhood so it's hard to miss something that was never there.)
05:48 AM on 02/13/2012
zmfts - at least you answer the phone - my son and daughter blocked me on FB, twitter, changed cell #'s, adresses, etc. all because the ex wouldn't allow them to love their Dad after divorce ... sad part is that my kids are only living half of their lives - I (meaning me and my entire side of my family) have so much love, time, caring, advice, etc. to offer to my kids (adults 25 & 21) but are not allowed to share their lives due to an ex that controls their lives with lies and aesop's fables - criminal selfish behavior on the ex's part - what a total control freak by using my kids as a tool to spite me for divorce - loony ??? isn't it ???
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maternatura
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05:00 PM on 02/13/2012
It is a terrible thing to poison a child's mind toward another parent. By constantly telling a child bad things about the other parent, they are really telling their child that half of them is bad. That's a horrible thing to do to kids. My mother did this to we kids so I learned not to do that when my son's father and I split up. It took years to repair the relationship between me and my dad. Thanks to my father constantly reaching out to me and telling me he loved me over the course of several years we have a great relationship. Eventually his persistence paid off.

Unless there is something really terrible and real harm will come to the child, it is wrong to destroy the parent-child relationship. Your ex is completely wrong and she could end up paying a high cost for her selfishness. When your kids grow up they may be able to see for themselves without her interference. Keep trying. Your persistence might just pay off too. Good luck!
06:21 PM on 02/12/2012
I had to read what the 'expert' had to say. Of course, it's the parents who have to compromise. No thanks. Something happened to my sons when they became men. I have no idea what it was. All I know is that they both became really mean, greedy and selfish. I haven't heard from one in 12 years, and in June I broke off communication with the youngest one. And, frankly, I couldn't be happier. It's just like anything else: know what you can change, know what you can't change, and have the wisdom to know the difference. Also, you know, often for both adult children and parents, friends are much more important.
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10:10 PM on 02/12/2012
Yyou reap what you sow.
tccat4
We all have a right to our opinion, like it or not
03:54 AM on 02/13/2012
Not always, and to blame the mothers is wrong. There are no books for how to be a parents, no one deserves to be treated with evil. Shame on you.....
12:18 AM on 02/13/2012
Forgive me, but- you don't sound very happy. May you have a better relationship with your sons in the future and not give up hope.
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maternatura
Conservative Liberal and recovering republican
06:19 PM on 02/12/2012
This is such a painful subject. I was hoping this article would talk about how to end a long rift and how to locate an estranged family member.
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trumbull desi
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07:25 PM on 02/12/2012
I hope you can find a way. My grandmother estranged herself from our entire family, including my mother. She died a bitter and lonely woman.
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maternatura
Conservative Liberal and recovering republican
07:45 PM on 02/12/2012
That's sad.

My mother and I didn't see or speak to each other the last 15 years of her life. She was a manipulative and cruel woman who went out of her way to split off family members from each other. It's been six years since her death and it will take the rest of our lives to clean up the devastation she left behind. There's one family member we can't even find. We know that he's alive, but has had a hard life. We've tried making contact, but he refuses to have anything to do with any of the family. Can't say as I blame him, but so much has improved in the six years since she died, but he doesn't know.
tillies47
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03:37 AM on 02/13/2012
seems like there are no easy answers. My daughter compared me to her friend's mom and turned against me. Now 8 years later, we speak and visit but there's still tension.
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whoknew222
I learn something new every day.
06:00 PM on 02/12/2012
What does one do when they have no idea what went wrong and you are too far away to just walk up to the door or bump into them somewhere and all lines of communication have effectively been cut off?
06:12 PM on 02/12/2012
Just let it as it is, and forget it.
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edeword
10:06 PM on 02/12/2012
Even if the relationship is not how you would like, it is in your best interest to forgive, rather than to become bitter over the years. We cannot improve anyone but ourselves.
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trumbull desi
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07:27 PM on 02/12/2012
That's an excellent question, and one I haven't figured out. My mother and brother are estranged, and I had to tell both of them that I would not act as a intermediary and they've have to work it out themselves. They have not. And I really, really wish they would reconnect.
tccat4
We all have a right to our opinion, like it or not
04:19 AM on 02/13/2012
Let it be, your brother and mother will work it out if they want. Mothers shouldnt have to always be the ones to make it right. You have your mother and let her know you love her, let the rest fix itself or not. I raised my children with lots of love and spent loads of times with them. Some are closer then others, It doesnt mean I love them less, but believe that children come thru you not from you, they have their own roads as we have ours. Our gift is to know we did our job, and leave it at that. "The Prophet by Khalil Gibran... children"
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whoknew222
I learn something new every day.
05:33 PM on 02/13/2012
That does make things difficult. My brother had our mom calling me insted of calling me himself and I told her to tell him if he couldn't ask me himself to stop wasting her time I didn't appreciate him putting her in the middle like that. She's going to have to find out on her own that he doesn't take no for an answer and how manipulative he is. At least noone's asking me for stuff since I told her that. It's juvenile, I'll say that much.
Not talking to some one is like having a temper tantrum that noone can see. I say if someone has a problem with me they can tell me themselves or keep pouting. That's not going to change it. Oh dwell. Good luck with your brother too.
05:56 PM on 02/12/2012
Here's one: Don't tell your daughter that she is working with the "dark forces" because she no longer ascribes to the religion of her upbringing. Then please do not send holy medals of St. Michael to the grandchildren to ensure they are protected from their mother. And please do not call months later and pretend that nothing has happened between you. . .let bygones be bygones because well, it's just easier to forget that an apology is owed.
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11:15 PM on 02/12/2012
Sometimes the protective nature of a parent may cause them to be protective of the grandchildren if they feel their daughter whom according to her beliefs doesn't seem salvageable. Can't fault her for her beliefs. This requires understanding from borh parties not just one.
03:25 PM on 02/13/2012
No, it requires a protection of my children from an over-the-top intrusive grandmother. I can fault her beliefs as they encroach into how I teach my children. There is no misunderstanding of her intentions. She is just surprised that I put up the necessary boundaries and stuck with it. It is hard for me to believe she would not have done the same if her parents had done this to her when she was raising us.