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Karl Fisch

Karl Fisch

Posted: October 11, 2010 01:04 PM

I'm a teacher. A parent. A citizen. Those are the lenses I view teaching and learning, educators and students, education and school through. That doesn't make me an expert, and I don't have all the answers, but I think I have some good questions, so let's get started with one of those questions.

This is the question that educators are constantly asking themselves.

What should students know and be able to do?

It gets back to an old argument in education, the argument about which is more important -- content or skills. Like most teachers I've talked with, I think that's a false dichotomy. I want both. I want students to know some content and have the skills to be able to use their knowledge. I don't want them to just "cover" the material, I want them to uncover their own understanding, and to think critically about the content.

My bias, however, is that too often in schools we err too much on the side of content. I once heard Cris Tovani, a wonderful reading teacher in Colorado, say,

Yeah, as a teacher I can cover my curriculum. I can get to that finish line. But often when I get to that finish line and look around, I'm all by myself.

That's even more true today, when we live in a rapidly changing, information abundant world. We live in exponential times. There's just too much content out there. As Eric Hoffer said,

In a time of drastic change, it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists.

He said that more than thirty years ago, and I think most of us would agree that the pace of change has only increased since then.

Schools were designed for an age when information was scarce, when students came to school because that's where the information was. It was in the textbook, it was in the teacher's head, and -- if they were lucky and had a good library -- it was in the additional resources the school library provided. But now, now we live in an information abundant world. I don't hear many people complaining that they don't have enough information (although they may complain about the quality of that information), yet schools are still designed around the concept that this is where you go to get information. That needs to change.

Which leads, I think, to an even more basic question. A question I think that, despite all the education reform lately, we haven't really talked much about.

What's the purpose of school? Is the primary purpose of school to meet the needs of society, or to meet the needs of the students?

There's a strong argument to be made that since society is investing so many resources into educating the young, that schools should be designed to meet the needs of society. After all, if schools don't meet the needs of society, why should society support them? This is the argument that is currently in fashion.

But I'd like to suggest an alternative, that the primary purpose of school should be to meet the needs of the individual. That if we meet the individual needs of students, we will ultimately meet the needs of all students. And if we truly meet the needs of all students, we will then meet the needs of society. I think this has always been the case, but it's even more important in a rapidly changing, information abundant world, a world where society doesn't even know what its needs are going to be in five years, much less in thirteen (for K-12 education) or longer (if you include post-secondary education).

This is a problem for many of the current school reform discussions because, despite the rhetoric about leaving no child behind and racing to the top, they rely on a standardized view of success, a one size fits all approach. I think individual students are different, and to ignore that fact is to deny the evidence that is all around us, at least if you ever met more than one kid.

No, I'm not talking about lowering expectations. I think we can have high standards without being standardized. Standardized curricula create standardized minds. Standardized minds create collateral debt obligations and credit default swaps. You know all those folks on Wall Street aced their standardized tests. They were the best and the brightest, the success stories from our schools, at least by our current definition of success in schools. Yet clearly there must be more to success than just those test scores.

So, I would suggest we need to slightly modify the question we ask ourselves as educators. Instead, perhaps we should be asking,

What should this student know and be able to do?

I think the addition of just one word might just make all the difference.

 

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Joel Shatzky
12:13 PM on 10/12/2010
This is an excellent think piece on education. My problem now is how to recruit the "best and brightest" into the teaching profession so that the best practices methods of teaching will be taught effectively. As an educator who taught over 4,000 education majors in my career,I hate to admit that there were not many of the "best and brightest" among them (I think the veteran teachers who have successfully survived and even thrived in this system are "best and brightest" but with the attrition rate as high as it is, that number will be dwindling.). Many of the ambitious young women of today in law, medicine and business who a generation ago were the cohort for our school system are now gone but it must be an objective of any future educational programs to "reprofessionalize" teaching and give it the respect and regard it deserves. (Lest there be any misunderstanding, many of the teachers I meet today who are engaged in what they are doing have my greatest respect.) The trend toward a "business model" of education that seems to be gaining increased support from politicians and will turn teaching into "information processing" and the demonization of unions and "bad teachers" as if they were typical rather than exceptional will only have the effect of making the teaching profession even less attractive than it is today for all college students considering entering it.
08:59 AM on 10/12/2010
We are personalizing our daughter's education by homeschooling. This seems to be the only way.
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Karl Fisch
11:03 PM on 10/12/2010
It is one good way, but I hope it's not the only way. Since that's just not an option for many families (either financially or because of their skill set), we need to find a way for our public schools to do a better job of this. I think we can learn a lot from folks who have homeschooled their children.
11:27 PM on 10/11/2010
I totally agree with Karl Fish, it is not only Amerincansociety way to look at learning and knowledge, it is mandatory to change our minds and start looking for some balance. Teachers in schools need to develop skills on every child, it is not about a curricula, it is about a person, a child who will have the opportunity to grow and change his or her society influenced by our teaching. If we standarize education looking for scores, our efforts will be a waste of time and we will get tramped in a circle. Developing skills will give children the opportunity to learn more and aquire more discipline and knowledge, but each one at their own pace. We as educators neeed to be sure to do an ethical job while teaching or as guides to learning.
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Sean Taylor Teacher
Literacy is a right of all people
09:05 PM on 10/11/2010
How do public schools that work almost 15 years behind in most technologies develop students for the information superhighway! My school has Windows XP service pack one, computers with 6GB hard drives, 15 year old vga monitors. We are lucky some classes have svga monitors. "We are waiting to send ours to China so they can be salvaged by some kids working in hellish conditions" Alvin Toffler points out in his book "Revolutionary Wealth" "if a ten-mile per hour education system can prepare students for jobs in companies moving at 100mph." Sean Taylor M. Ed
http://reading-sage.blogspot.com
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Karl Fisch
11:01 PM on 10/12/2010
Well, certainly more updated equipment would be helpful, but as more and more things move to the web, it's not as critical. Windows XP and five year old computers still work fairly well for many things, as long as you have the bandwidth.

Now, if anyone would like to donate some new computer to my school, I'm not saying we wouldn't take them :-)
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
06:49 PM on 10/11/2010
There is a difference between knowing and understanding. Knowing, that is facts, can be considered the metaphorical equivalent of bricks in a wall. We need them. Understanding is the mortar that holds the bricks together and gives the whole coherence and usability. It is here that testing, and teaching by testing fails.
06:30 PM on 10/11/2010
I have a realtive that did not do so hot all of the way through school, so naturally he didn't think so much of schools (but always encouraged his kids because he knew how the world is). If, for example, they had figured out that he was more of a Gardener's 7 Intelligences type, and would end up becoming a chef, a world class salesman, and businessman, they could have helped him work on those skill sets as they enlightened him in a liberal arts way. But tht's not how things were then and yet to be today...Today as of yet he would have been flunked or thrown it some type of LD category (even as he was and is very smart).
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
06:54 PM on 10/11/2010
My children are both very smart (IQs well over 150) and both are learning disabled. The very gifted are almost always learning disabled, because the screwy wiring that makes them so smart is prone to problems. Helping them overcome their disabilities should be a high priority; what actually happens is that people say, "Oh, they don't need help; they're so smart."
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Karl Fisch
10:59 PM on 10/12/2010
I think that's why so many folks are thinking about playing to kids strengths, not just focusing on their weaknesses. That's not to say that we don't want to help them improve on those weaknesses, but too often I think we end up "doubling up" on their weaknesses and completely eliminating any time for them to spend on their strengths.
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freducate
Spirit Naturally Evolving
06:03 PM on 10/11/2010
"But I'd like to suggest an alternative, that the primary purpose of school should be to meet the needs of the individual. That if we meet the individual needs of students, we will ultimately meet the needs of all students. And if we truly meet the needs of all students, we will then meet the needs of society."

I agree with this fully. We have to meet the needs of the individual students and work out from there. Regardless of where you go in the debate about what should be in the curriculum re content, one indispensable skill students need regardless of their pursuits, is the ability to take committed, determined action towards specific goals, the heart of achievement in whatever form it takes. http://bit.ly/9xiQqp

This single skill goes to the heart of student readiness, as well as job readiness. (I am amazed at the cavalier, often sneering dismissal this idea of being employable receives from many in this debate. What an attitude to pass on to your kids.
06:33 PM on 10/11/2010
Societies do a lousy job of predicting what they want or can use, that's why they always fall back on the, "we need math and science people" thing.
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freducate
Spirit Naturally Evolving
08:28 PM on 10/11/2010
Uh, can you point to a society that is doing well without science or math? Whatever else a society needs, the idea that it is somehow going to prosper without a solid techno-base.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
06:55 PM on 10/11/2010
Meeting the needs of individuals is very labor, time, and money intensive. Society has to stop demanding a champagne result on a less-than-water budget!
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William Ferriter
07:26 AM on 10/12/2010
This is the point that has me the most worried, @been2there.

While I agree with Karl's central premise that meeting the individual needs of students is essential if we're to create an educational system that truly leaves America stronger---and while new technologies are starting to make this level of individualized instruction possible---I'm intimidated as a classroom teacher because I know just how hard differentiating in a room of 30+ students or on a team of 120+ students really is.

The barrier isn't my know-how. The barrier is the willingness of communities to provide me with the kinds of working conditions---reasonable student loads, significant time for planning and reflection, digital tools for finding trends in student learning---necessary to pull individualization off at the student level.

Any of this make sense?
Bill
02:45 PM on 10/11/2010
Good questions Mr. Fisch. We are asking our staff to think about and discuss the same things in addition to others such as those that address rigor, relevance, and respectful relationships as described by Tony Wagner in his 2006 post, Rigor on Trial, http://www.schoolchange.org/articles/rigor_on_trial.html

Many correlations between what you are saying above.
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Karl Fisch
05:59 PM on 10/11/2010
Yes, we've used Tony Wagner's book http://www.amazon.com/Global-Achievement-Gap-Survival-Need--/dp/0465002307/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1286834245&sr=8-1 and his article Rigor Redefined http://www.ascd.org/publications/educational-leadership/oct08/vol66/num02/Rigor-Redefined.aspx as part of our staff development.
02:13 PM on 10/11/2010
Interesting take on the best and brightest. Most authors have complained that the best and brightest minds go to Wall Street instead of jobs that actually create something. Now you've put the thought in my head that they aren't the best and brightest, but we listen to their advice because we think they are smarter than the rest of us.
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Karl Fisch
05:51 PM on 10/11/2010
Brendan - To be clear, I want to make sure folks understand I'm not attacking all the good people that work on Wall Street. But the point I was attempting to make was that the people who have caused our current financial difficulties are the very ones that many people hold up as the success stories, based on what I believe is a very flawed metric.

I think we need to redefine what success looks like, and I think that definition should focus more on each child.
02:04 PM on 10/11/2010
Karl,

Great post!! You've got me thinking - if the technology of the 21st Century had been around before schools were widely developed, what would schools have looked like? How would schools have been different if we knew about 21st Century technology?

Andrew Pass
A Pass Educational Group
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Karl Fisch
05:47 PM on 10/11/2010
Andrew - Those are questions that we've frequently talked about in our staff development efforts at my school. The question basically is, "If you were designing a school today, from scratch, what would it look like?" The idea is to get beyond all the legacy ideas that we "obviously" have to have in schools, and try to focus on what students need and how we can leverage the technology we have to meet those needs.

It's a complicated question, and I don't want to imply that I think the answers are easy or that I have them all. But, to me, it starts with meeting the needs of the students we have in front of us. Each one of those students, as individual human beings, not as a "disaggregated subgroup" who's scores need to improve, or a "bubble" student that we need to get to the next proficiency level.

I think that, more and more, we have the ability to personalize education, to meet the needs of individual students and allow them to pursue their passions. My evolving goal as an educator, which I'm coming nowhere near to achieving yet, is to meet the individual needs of my students and to support them as they pursue their passions, while in a community setting (currently school) with shared values and goals.