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How Darwin Sustains My Baptist Search for Truth

Posted: 08/21/2010 6:20 am

My sainted mother, who passed away this year, raised me to value the truth. My family members were fundamentalist Baptists, attending a church in rural New Brunswick, Canada, pastored by my father. The reason I am no longer a fundamentalist is precisely because I was taught to value the truth and there are some fundamentalist beliefs that I just don't think are true any more. The earth, for example, is not 10,000 years old.

I have naively assumed, until recently, that respect for the truth is deep in the DNA of Baptists. I have assumed that when a Baptist speaks or writes, they do their best to be truthful. I am thus quite alarmed that America's leading Baptist, Al Mohler -- widely read author, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary and, according to Time, the "reigning intellectual of the evangelical movement in the U.S." -- does not seem to care about the truth and seems quite content to simply make stuff up when it serves his purpose.

About two months ago Mohler spoke to a group of leading fundamentalists at a prestigious venue. His topic was why Christians must believe that the earth is just a few thousand years old. A transcription of his talk is available here.

In this talk Mohler made false statements about Darwin. He apparently wanted to undermine evolution by suggesting that it was "invented" to prop up Darwin's worldview, rather than developed to explain observations in the natural world. He said, "Darwin did not embark upon the Beagle having no preconceptions of what exactly he was looking for or having no theory of how life emerged in all of its diversity, fecundity, and specialization. Darwin left on his expedition to prove the theory of evolution."

Because Darwin was constantly journaling, keeping careful notebooks, and writing letters, historians have established beyond all doubt that Mohler's summary is simply false. To be fair, an alarming number of fundamentalists have made similar claims. John Ankerberg and John Weldon make essentially the same false claims in Darwin's Leap of Faith: Exposing the False Religion of Evolution.

Of course, Mohler may simply have made a mistake. He is, after all, a theologian and not a historian. He could have gotten this wrong idea from any number of his fellow anti-Darwinians. However, I don't think so. In his address he read from my book Saving Darwin, in which I took some pains to correct the all-too-common misrepresentation of Darwin he presented. So, unless he was just cherry-picking ideas from my book that he wanted to assault, he should have known better. But let us bend over backwards here and give him the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps his only real encounter with Saving Darwin was an instruction to an assistant to "find something in Giberson's book that I can ridicule in my speech."

I gave Mohler the benefit of the doubt in an open letter that I posted on the BioLogos website. (He had also criticized BioLogos in his address.) In this letter I invited him to correct the record, naively thinking that he had been raised with the same respect for the truth that I had. "Dr. Mohler," I wrote, "I must express my dismay at your mispresentation of Darwin. I can only hope it is because you used some questionable sources and perhaps you might be willing to do some checking and try to set the record straight. I encourage you to do so, since I know you value speaking the truth highly."

Two months have passed and Mohler has made no effort to correct his misrepresentation of Darwin; he has not even acknowledged it, at least publicly. I can only conclude that because this particular "truth" is a political liability, Mohler chooses to ignore it. Mohler perhaps, is being a "faith fibber," something I have been guilty of, although not on this scale.

What disturbs me about this is the revelation -- which has taken me a long time to accept -- that some of my fellow Christians have no more respect for the truth than some of my non-Christian critics. In fact, the most honest dialog I have had on this topic was with Michael Shermer. Shermer, the editor of Skeptic Magazine, is an enthusiastic agnostic, but he seems far more engaged in searching for truth than winning converts to his position. I am disappointed to realize that Shermer, who repudiated his faith, has more respect for the truth than Al Mohler, who views himself as a caretaker of a faith that I share.

Religious belief is complex and full of mystery, paradox, and contradiction. Those without faith often seem unable to even understand it, much less enter into meaningful conversation with believers. And often they express this with caricature and ridicule. But our conversation, as shaky and precarious as it may be, should always be anchored to whatever bits of truth we can find and agree on.

Darwin's religious journey has been the subject of intense scrutiny and even entire books. He struggled throughout his life with issues of faith. He did eventually lose his childhood Anglican faith, but he lost it reluctantly and not until middle age, long after his famous voyage on the Beagle. Toward the end of his life he wrote to an old friend about the painful experience of losing his faith: "I was very unwilling to give up my belief." He recalled daydreaming as a younger man about something that could arrest his slide into disbelief, perhaps the discovery of "old letters between distinguished Romans, and manuscripts being discovered at Pompeii or elsewhere, which confirmed in the most striking manner all that was written in the Gospels." Gradually, though, he found it harder to imagine being rescued in this way and "disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete."

This is the Darwin of history -- not the fictional character preferred by his anti-evolutionary critics. It is the story of an honest seeker, with a profound respect for the truth, even when it did not serve his purposes.

 
 
 

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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
02:26 PM on 10/09/2010
Dr. Giberson offered a very fair picture of his position. He seems to be genuinely searching for the truth. It is not possible - in my humble opinion - to say that there either is a God who created the universe or not. We cannot possibly know if some intelligent entity caused everything around us to begin and to keep happening for nearly the past fourteen billion years.

This is not an atheistic rant; it is the expression of someone with doubt - perhaps an agnostic mild rant. The Bible shows that the God of that Bible is willing to offer proof when it may be needed. He allowed Jesus to appear to many - again, according to the Bible - when faith among His followers was running on empty. Why does it no longer happen? Why does Christ not appear in Times Square at noon on a warm summer day?

The usual argument would be that God works in mysterious ways and wants believers to find answers through faith. That is untrue. God let the strongest believers in Christ's mission see Him after His death, if the Bible can be believed. Why would God not offer similar proof to those who have heard of Christ, but never met Him? Why was all the proof in the history of Christianity provided at a time when few people could read or write and when there was no mass communication?

These events would fit perfectly into a story that was created by
01:54 AM on 09/08/2010
Thank you for a very thoughtful and honest article.

I particualrly liked this bit

"Religious belief is complex and full of mystery, paradox, and contradiction. Those without faith often seem unable to even understand it, much less enter into meaningful conversation with believers. And often they express this with caricature and ridicule. But our conversation, as shaky and precarious as it may be, should always be anchored to whatever bits of truth we can find and agree on."

As an atheist, I am often frustrated by the roadblocks I encounter in trying to have "meaningful coversations with believers" - but it seems to me they (the faithful) are usally the ones that shut the door on dialogue, and are not willing to crtically examine, discuss, or defend many aspects of their beliefs, while I am happy to consider any countering point of view.
01:32 AM on 09/02/2010
Dr. Giberson, would you mind explaining exactly what "false truths" Al Mohler made, and then proving that they were false truths? I would like to here exactly what was false?
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mjeffn
Freedom's just another word 4 nothing left to lose
06:59 PM on 08/27/2010
I can understand a man wanting to sit on the fence to be liked by everybody but, the fence between Evolution and religion is very tall with razor wire at the top.
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mjeffn
Freedom's just another word 4 nothing left to lose
06:54 PM on 08/27/2010
What is...is. What isn't is the realm of religion.
04:03 PM on 08/26/2010
I invite you all to read Dr. Mohler's response here : http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/08/25/a-letter-to-professor-giberson-on-darwin-and-darwinism/

As a Baptist and science major I struggle with the balance between faith and science but I can assure you that Giberson is wrong on many accounts.
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mjeffn
Freedom's just another word 4 nothing left to lose
06:55 PM on 08/27/2010
Are studying for a BS? What University?
02:09 AM on 09/08/2010
Thanks for link. I read most of it. It changed nothing. The whole argument about Darwin's intent is irrelevant. The central point is the theory (fact) of evolution - it doesn't matter at all how it came to be known

And here is the telling bit from your link (Mohler's "defense"):

"The theory of evolution is incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus Christ even as it is in direct conflict with any faithful reading of the Scriptures. Darwin’s historic role in the development of evolutionary theory is central and significant, but the theological objections to evolution are not centered in the person of Darwin, but in the structure and implications of his theory of natural selection"

So, that is the real issue, and of course they are not compatible, because of course the Bible and Gospel of Jesus Christ are mythology, and Natrual Selection is reality, and Dr. Mohler simply cannot accept that.

To paraphrase Sam Harris (again): "It is time we recognize the obvious, that Theology is a branch of human ignorance" - (and this is a perfect example)

Stay with the science, don't cling too tightly to the Baptist dogma - you will be fine...
01:33 PM on 08/26/2010
I'm a pretty good reader, and I think I have read this carefully, but I still don't understand the title/slash headline of this piece. How, again, does Darwin sustain your baptist belief's...?
10:57 AM on 08/26/2010
It has often baffled me how frequent religious people, lie to defend their religion. Often in issues concerning science where the fact checking is easily done.

The frustrating part is that in most cases theist seem to do it with ease, as if intellectual honesty and truth has no intrinsic value to them.

Glad to see that a religious person addresses this issue in the article. A pity that he actually has to do it, and that there seem to be so many religious people who doesn't share his views.
06:02 AM on 08/25/2010
Those who trust in man rather then in God, pray for them, for they are weak in their own faith. Christ did not trust in any mere mortal man nor feared them. And went off on his own to pray in communion one on one with God directly.
08:15 PM on 08/26/2010
"And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." Mathew 16:18.

Sounds like a lot of trust and responsibility to me.
06:47 AM on 08/24/2010
Religions are constructs made of gossamer glued together with mist. They are ephemeral; they shift, disappear and even evolve over time. Their founders are mostly misfits, malcontents and lazy dreamers waiting on a lottery to cure their melancholy and assuage their fears.

There are few who have some kind of power over the minds of religious followers who rely on truth, normally an arbiter between good and evil. Instead the leaders believe a partnership with Satan can get you faster results from followers than reasoned persuasion.

God is not an answer; God is a weapon of mass destruction. God is often pointed and fired indiscriminately against whole peoples.

Evolution is a good target for religious leaders; it is immensely complex in its mechanisms but marvellously simple in concept. Evolution is God’s replacement in the equation of life. Evolution has delivered the pink slip to Christianity.
02:36 AM on 08/25/2010
Yes!! And therein his relectuance to publish because of his sincere devotion to his belovd wife.
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11:40 PM on 08/25/2010
“Evolution has delivered the pink slip to Christianity.”

AND science is the ultimate Ant-Christ. Fanned!
10:40 PM on 08/23/2010
'Creationism' doesn't even qualify as a theory.
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KrautMan
Carpe jugulum
05:08 AM on 08/24/2010
Actually one could argue whether it qualifies as a hypothesis.
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phal4875
The world is run by cats; we just feed them.
02:29 PM on 10/09/2010
Perhaps it should be viewed as a "skit."
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04:33 PM on 08/23/2010
You are in for a rude awakening because there aren't ANY Fundamentalist religious beliefs that are the "truth" by any stretch of the most vivid imagination.
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HerrMonk
Fighter, Trainer, Nat.Sec.Consultant, Libertine
04:16 PM on 08/23/2010
"Religious belief is complex and full of mystery, paradox, and contradiction."

Apparently, since the Theory of Evolution tells us that the Christian belief system is wrong (doesn't match up with the world).
10:38 PM on 08/23/2010
Or the fact of evolution?
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dubbleplusgood
turned off CNN, turned on CurrentTV
02:08 AM on 08/24/2010
was that a joke?
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HerrMonk
Fighter, Trainer, Nat.Sec.Consultant, Libertine
12:01 PM on 08/24/2010
Well, gravity is still a theory too. Don't get hung up on the semantics.
02:42 PM on 08/23/2010
Why is it that religious folks are discussing Darwin, either pro or con?

1) Science is the process of solving a problem, a mystery (the person is detached from his data)
2) Religion deals with that which is unknowable, that which is a-gnostic, that which will always remain a mystery (the person is ‘inside’ this mystery).

'Pure' agnosticism is the conviction that we can never have knowledge that is more than a peripheral extension of what we now possess.

Religionists surround the unknown with the aura of the sacred and then try to relate to, or use, the power or the effects of the power (narcissistic identification with the supposed attributes of god). Not content with this, man remakes God anthropomorphically--and becomes another Darwin, evolving his own personal deity.

Rather than rest content with the unknowable, that which cannot be known (a-gnosis), they shroud it in mystery and relate to it in love, assuming that they themselves are loved in turn--as they define love.

Rather than admit that which is beyond his comprehension, the New Theologian would have us believe that they have the answer to man's questions, using science. Thus man continues to create a god in his own image.

The mystery is also being manifested to those Chosen who would interpret His Word, both through science (Darwin) and their own unconscious identification with this powerful mystery. Only they as scientific theologians can interpret this coded mystery to us.

Don't straddle the fence.
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Jewels23
Whose woods these are I think I know.
02:34 PM on 08/23/2010
Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do.. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! ..But He loves you.

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DrLogic
"I can have oodles of charm when I want to."
02:54 PM on 08/24/2010
He loves you...and he needs money. :)
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healthanalyst
Banned from commenting, so?
04:56 PM on 09/03/2010
Boy the Baotists sure do, and the Mormons want the check before you enter the Temple.
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