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Are Homeschoolers Hopeless Idealists?

Posted: 05/03/11 04:13 PM ET

Grown unschooler Peter Kowalke is asking the world if homeschoolers are idealists. He writes on his blog:

We're idealists in that we don't accept human frailty and the ills of the world as unavoidable fact. We try to change things, to better ourselves, to live up to ideals. We want to actually BE our ideal, not just worship it, and we go out and make it happen.


Is this good, or are we spinning our wheels and fighting battles we can't win? Do we ultimately come back to the status quo after a long struggle trying to be better than the norm, or do we somehow avoid being THAT kind of idealist?

I was homeschooled, and I don't know. Maybe we're practical. We see another way to do things that makes a lot of sense, so we try it. We know it won't work for everyone, but we think it might work for us.

Often, people assume that the presence of homeschooling is, at its heart, a critique of a broken education system. You could make a pretty sturdy argument there. But on an individual level, staying out of school seems more like having the space to make your own choices than a cry for revolution.

Not everyone can homeschool. Not everyone would be better off homeschooling. Not everyone secretly wants to be homeschooled, as I sometimes believed as a child ("But don't they want to play outside all day, too, Mommy?").

It's true -- homeschooling requires bravery. You have to be willing to be different. You will have to answer a lot of questions that start with the words, "But socialization...." You will have to repeat yourself to the next person. Homeschooling implies confidence. You are willing to be different because you believe that there's value there. And yes, idealism can fit into that mix.

But for the kids -- for those of us whose parents didn't sign us up for preschool or kindergarten when the other kids were all being signed up -- we aren't idealists. We're just kids.

And when we grow up, maybe we feel idealistic because we have learned that being ourselves is a fine way to be, and that our interests are educationally meaningful, and that our lives are our own. Maybe we will rush out to save the world and start support groups and foundations and little revolutions. Or maybe we will quietly bring our unique perspectives to our jobs and relationships, just like other people bring their differences into every situation they encounter. I don't know that we must do one or the other, or that we are even inclined to.

As unschoolers and homeschoolers, we don't have to fight a battle, we can just be ourselves. We influence the status quo just by existing. We don't have to change the world, we can simply enjoy our own lives.

So I don't know. I can't tell to what extent I'm an idealist. Sometimes I think I'm much more anxious than I could be. Sometimes I think I'm normal in practically every significant way. Or wish I wasn't as normal as I appear to be. Sometimes I'm thrilled by my own differences. I don't think I'm living my ideal yet. I'm certainly trying, but success is a long way off. And if I never reach it, I hope I learn to be more accepting along the way.


If you're interested in how normal homeschooling life can look, you might want to check out this essay, called "Hick Town Unschooled Kid."

 

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11:28 AM on 05/05/2011
I am glad you recognize that not everyone is cut out to homeschool nor would every kid benefit from it. That is so true and there are far too many people doing this who really should not be. As my youngest prepares to graduate from our neighborhood public high school in two weeks, I know the benefit he and his sibs have received from their public school experience. No, it's not just socialization because of course you can get that elsewhere. It's the opportunity to form relationships of mutual respect with other adults, who are NOT their parents. I am the parent, I love my kids, I teach my kids a lot everyday. But there is real benefit in the incredible relationships my kids have had with public school teachers. These teachers have played a unique role in my kids' lives and have given them something I can't. I am grateful for that and I feel that a lot of homeschoolers miss out on this intangible. Succeeding for a parent who's gonna love you no matter what is far different from succeeding for a teacher at school where it is all about your own effort and ability. Perhaps our experience with public school is not the norm and I am the idealist, but that's my take.
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12:44 AM on 05/06/2011
learning to answer to authrity figures is no small step(s) in a child's development.
05:40 AM on 05/18/2011
Very few (if any) homeschoolers cloister their children away from the world. Homeschooled children typically interact with many non-parental authority figures on a regular basis- music and art teachers, sports coaches, Scout and 4H leaders, clergy, co-op class instructors, etc.

I did have some excellent teachers over the years at the government-run school I attended growing up. However, overall I would not say my schooling was a positive experience. I was very bored academically and miserable socially because I wasn't into the whole drinking/drugs/casual sex scene. I don't want my kids to have to suffer through what I did.
06:57 PM on 05/10/2011
How wonderful for your kids to have had such a positive experience with their teachers! I absolutely agree that socialization with adults other than parents is crucial to a child's life, but I want to point out that the socialization that homeschoolers and unschoolers get is not only with their peers; it's with people of all ages. That's part of the beauty of homeschooling: socializing is not limited to children the same age or full adults, as it generally is in public schools; it includes the entire age range. It makes sense if you think about it: because home/unschoolers are often involved in volunteering, social groups, traveling, and so on, interaction with people regardless of age is encouraged and required. When I was 14 or so, there were people in my life that I considered to be good friends who ranged in age from about 6 to middle-aged, whose company I enjoyed and whose opinions I valued, and they were all outside my own family. Also, my homeschooling group offered classes twice a week, where I, too, learned how to form the working student-teacher relationship (and my homeschooling group is hardly unique in offering classes).

So while I'm so glad your children have had such great teachers, I just wanted to point out that valuable relationships across ages can be forged anywhere--not just in public school.

Oh, and congratulations to your son!
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sarahinez
04:03 PM on 05/04/2011
Unschooling and homeschooling, however pertinent to the individuals involved, present yet another mechanism by which Americans are separated from one another. Special interest publications, gated communities and apartment complexes, private schools, ever smaller niche churches, personal cars, political parties that pander to ever more ever smaller niche groups all have divided us.

Public schools were the last place where people or different social classes, religions, races had to work together so that we'd have common frames of reference--about what it was to be an American, even if we learned more the ideal than the reality. Maybe the cherry tree story was a lie, but we all knew it and and the value of honesty. Dressing up as or drawing Puritans and Indians eating together reinforced another lesson about kindness even to people who aren't like you--the Indians' role--and showing gratitude for kindness-- the Puritans' role. Reading many of the same stories--Make Way for Ducklings, Charlotte's Web, Caddie Woodlawn, and learning The Star-Spangled Banner and America, using flashcards for multiplication facts, going out for recess, and watching the would-be leaders waste their time and energy on class and school elections gave us common ground for understanding the world and easy comparisons. (I learned then that most voting is against someone, not for their opponent)

What are the common experiences now that lay the groundwork for acting for the common good?
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12:41 AM on 05/06/2011
it is a good question, maybe if we look to the thing we answer to we can get some perspective.
07:28 PM on 05/10/2011
To start: volunteering. After-school sports. Summer camps. Attending and organizing political protests and charity events. Participating in the government of a church/homeschooling/other community. Homschooling communities usually offer classes, field trips, picnics, lectures, and group lessons in activities like skiing, horseback riding, and dance. Personally, I have done most of these. With a few sad exceptions, homeschoolers are generally extremely social and community-oriented people who form strong communities with others all across their region that vary in diversity of race, religion, politics, and class.

In fact, I would argue that public schools often tend to break down "groundwork for acting for the common good" because it encourages competition between students rather than cooperation, provides a false model of the real world (how can you learn how to act most effectively for the common good in a system that does not exist outside of school walls?), and compacts so many people into such a high-stress environment that just as often as friendships form from the common suffering, so does bullying occur and cliques arise to even further separate students from each other.

As someone who is dedicated to her fellow people, and who has worked toward the "common good" more than most people can say (sadly), I am quite confident that my knowledge of how to bond in community to effect change is not something I learned from the common experience of learning The Star-Spangled Banner, using flashcards, or going out to recess.
01:32 PM on 05/04/2011
How novel. Teaching your children the important things at home that are now not taught in public schools. Honesty, integrity, lieing is wrong, common sense, morality, grade level math, science, reading and writing, and getting rid of completely useless waste of time subjects like collective social justice, and homosexuality as a completely normal alternative lifestyle. Homeschooling allows children to at least have half of a chance of growing up to be normal, productive, self sufficient citizens. Not wards of the state.
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sarahinez
04:06 PM on 05/04/2011
Hopeless, but not idealistic.
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trinity
10:58 PM on 05/04/2011
What public school have you visited lately...we DO teach character traits like honesty, integrity, cooperation, kindness, & compassion, have to, because parents are no longer teaching them at home....
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01:12 PM on 05/04/2011
School is supposed to be about learning, not socialization. People who claim "socialization" don't understand that kids socialize in lots of ways and places. Most kids I know who have been home-schooled may go to church or synagogue, have parents who are involved in homeschooling organizations where activities are planned for the kids, play sports, belong to Boy or Girl Scouts or in rural areas 4-H, and on and on. They're not isolated. If I had it to do over again, I might very well homeschool for at least part of my kids' education, probably middle school as a friend did. Middle school "socialization" is is pure barbarism.
02:51 PM on 05/04/2011
I agree with this. Being an aspie I actually socialize far more, when I get to choose where I socialize. School was always crazy for me. Add to that being bullied and picked on... by the end of the day I was worn out of "socializing" even though none of it was good socializing. Then I would go to football practice or any number of other places, and getting more than 2 words would be a challenge. Now that I am out of that phase of my school, and get to choose when I socialize so much more, I socialize a lot more. Part of that could just be maturity (I am 25 after all) but I doubt all of it is.
02:44 PM on 05/07/2011
I'm not fully sold on homeschooling, but the "socialization" argument drives me crazy too. I will say that there is an adjustment for homeschooler's when they are in a group situation (raising hands, understanding they're not the only one in the room, leaving the room without asking, etc.) But most of those kids are involved in social activities.

I do notice among a lot of homeschool parents, though, that they play by their own rules. Insisting on a certain teacher at extra-curriculars, only coming to extracurriculars when they feel like it, hovering over child during activities when every other parent is in the waiting room or running errands. That does worry me that some learn the rules don't apply to them and that commitment isn't that big a deal.
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LearnMe
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11:02 AM on 05/04/2011
Most people should not be home schooled, my dad says, and I agree. A home schooled kid needs to be independent and acknowledge and be willing to live with the loss of socialization. It’s possible to partially make up for it, but only partially.

My dad thinks that parents home school their kids for different reasons, the main ones being either they want their kids to be doing more work (parents have their own interpretations of that) or because they want their kids to learn differently. My dad falls into the differently category.

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12:09 AM on 05/06/2011
the way you talk it sounds like an ultimatum. and the way you discuss socialization sounds as if you had blinders on. socialization is a word it is true, but authenticating ourselves and our children into the world of adult rituals and rites of passage is more than a word or set of words. quantifying your humanity is struggle enough, but learning to meet the challenge is what life and socialization are about. so, if we talk about defining that challenge i think we can get closer to the root of the struggle which things like rites of passage and authenticating ourselves can help us identify.
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cmr86
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10:35 AM on 05/04/2011
While homeschooling provides an outlet and a purpose, I've found a lot of my friends or people I've met that come from that background are a) hopelessly naïve and socially immature and/or b) were taught according to Christian values, rather than following any true curriculum.

I realize it's just anecdotal evidence, and I know public or private school isn't for everyone, but I, personally am not a fan of it as a general practice.
02:55 PM on 05/04/2011
Your a) is probably a bit of the chicken and the egg. A socially immature and naive kid is a prime target in schools for bullying. Parents remove him from school, he gets better (to the bottom 10% of his age group instead of the bottom 3%) but he still is socially immature and naive compared to the "average kid". I see that a lot with some kids, especially with disabled kids (asperger's, HFA, etc.), parents remove the kid because they have no choice... but he still is disabled.
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cmr86
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10:04 AM on 05/05/2011
I'm not sure I understand your argument's connection to disabled children. In many cases, I think, social immaturity--i.e. not understanding how to function within a group--comes from lack of experience because they have not been adequately introduced into social settings. This going to sound terrible, but when you're training a puppy, if you isolate him from other dogs, he/she will naturally become overly excited or anxious at the prospect of meeting new dogs. Same with children.
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10:24 AM on 05/04/2011
I've yet to meet a single homeschooler who wasn't doing it for religious/political reasons. Many of them have a whole lot of other reasons they cite, but when distill it all down, what you have left is a deep desire to keep their kids away from the secular world.
11:58 AM on 05/04/2011
Then I dare say you have not met many homeschoolers :).
12:42 PM on 05/04/2011
Where do you live? I'm in a major urban area and out of 100 homeschooling families (roughly) that I've met, exactly 2 were doing it for Christian religious reasons. And I've met a good 10 or so families who are atheist, 20 or so pagan ones, and many more who are in very mainstream religions and live heavily in the secular world. Also Waldorf followers, who are often against mainstream secular stuff but aren't usually fundmentalist Christian. I think there are areas of the country where there are many religious homeschoolers, but it's far from universal.
09:41 AM on 05/04/2011
been2there, people say that all the time, that homeschool parents are the ones who would have been active in the PTA, but I don't think it's actually true. My oldest was in school for a few years, and now she's homeschooling. But I wasn't active in the PTA. I'm not super active in terms of organizing events for the homeschool group either.

I did some with the school when the teacher asked for help, but I was probably smack in the middle in terms of parental involvement in the classroom. I didn't do anything at all at the school level, other than buy a ticket to the fundraiser. I didn't gather auction items, make baked goods, etc. Likewise, I pay for events with the homeschool group, helped with a small class for 6 kids, and that's kinda it. The really involved parents will be really involved whether they do school or homeschool, but it's still a tiny minority of the parents in either.
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LearnMe
Native NY-er, father of 2, husband to 1. I teach
09:39 AM on 05/04/2011
He's "hopeless" or YOU are? "Idealist" is good, right? I've got a lot more to say on all this, as a new-to-the-game (and only in it for a couple years) homeschooling father http://learnmeproject.com/
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Gem Mayers
11:51 PM on 05/03/2011
I was homeschooled for a year and loved it.Where I was at you still had to follow a school given and driven curriculum but I would finish my week's work in a day and get bored so I read the entire Audobon Encyclopedia, made my own little edible plants booklet, wrote new endings to all of Beverley Cleary's Ramona books, wrote a poem that won district recognition...4th grade was great!
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
09:34 PM on 05/03/2011
Home schooling is very tough. I did it because my kids needed help that the schools would not supply; they wouldn't even let me supply it. It had its drawbacks.
One real problem is that the parents willing to home school are also the ones who were willing to help in school as PTA people and room parents. Losing these parents really hurts schools.
02:47 PM on 05/07/2011
True. I come from a family of teachers who would love more involved parents. Now granted they've seen some doozy homeschooling situations, my math teacher mom would have loved for the parent who pulled her kid because she didn't agree with the math curriculum set forth by the school board, to have made her voice known.
05:53 AM on 05/18/2011
The bureaucrats aren't interested in what parents actually want. The district where we lived until 2009 rejected the parent-promoted "Singapore Primary Math" curriculum because they claimed "it wasn't appropriate for English Language Learners" and went with the notoriously awful "Every Day Mathematics" program instead.
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sawyer0413
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06:22 PM on 05/03/2011
Kate,

When most hear or read the words, homeschooled or unschooled, they automatically assume uneducated. They are obviously not the same. I would argue that any parent who is willing, able, and driven to homeschool their child(ren) would have success with their child(ren) in any setting, even the most challenging public school. Involved parents make a significant difference in learning. Teachers around the country would strongly agree with this.

Yet, this is not practical for most parents or students, even if they wanted it. My sister and I would, in today's vernacular, be called latch-key kids. Our parents worked several jobs. Neither of my parents had anything more than a high school diploma, and neither were particularly excellent students. In fact, my father has dyslexia. My mother was quickly unable to help me with homework. It was beyond her capability. While I love her deeply, she would have made a horrible homeschool mother. Worse yet, they would have lacked the resources to see that I was given opportunities to learn. We were poor, and I have been homeless. All said, it wouldn't have worked for us, and most families would come to similar conclusions.

So, you are not idealists for selecting homeschooling, nor for believing it is a good method. You are idealists in believing it can work for more than a small minority. And, you are an idealist if you don't acknowledge that many of the students currently being homeschooled are getting a less than stellar education.